CRIME Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy

[summerthyme]

Well, I sure want to see his tox report!

But no, that's sort of the point. Big guys (he was 6'6"!!) probably shouldnt be ingesting substances in public that might lead them to behave illogically, or not be able to control themselves in normal social interactions. Quite frankly, I don't care what people ingest in their own homes, but once you leave the house, you need to be able to control your behavior to conform to societal norms.

And if you ARE blitzed, your chances of not making it home alive are FAR greater... whether due to DWI, walking into traffic, or pissing someone off.

Summerthyme

 

[Donald Shimoda]

Rioters must riot and looters must loot.

RACE WAR - Rioter: ‘We’re Gonna Start Coming to the Suburbs’

My pops worked the LA riots, I've got his oak night stick. Thought about sanding, polishing and oiling it up, but decided it looked better with the DNA still stuck to it.

www.timebomb2000.com

From the above link:




How far we've progressed...

[ Now, to be fair - the fellow wearing the mask carrying the bottles of hard spirits may have certainly paid for them, and the store just ran out of bags. Something in me says "no," however - maybe it's the package in the pant's leg...]

 

[KFhunter]

There ya go, preaching personal responsibility Summer

 

[summerthyme]

There ya go, preaching personal responsibility Summer

Sorry... It's a failing of mine!

Summerthyme

 

[newsnut]

Sounds like it was the guys own fault.

Yep, woulda stood a better chance of livin' if he had never acted in a way that would bring the police. No crime, no cops but the dumbass committed a crime and then resisted and mouthed off, too bad he died but he put himself in the situation.

 

[bw]

The question now is, why was the officer kneeling on Floyd's neck? What happened between the time an officer got Floyd up off the sidewalk and the video showing him on the ground being kneeled on. How much time past between the two videos? Was Floyd still handcuffed? Does kneeling on a perpetrator fall within the MPD restraint guidelines? All quite complicated, actually.

Got no opinion or inside information on any of that. I was just addressing idea that death from other than asphyxiation was somehow the same as saying the police weren't responsible. Don't know how people could manage that, but maybe you had to hold your mouth right.

 

[MountainBiker]

The majority of adults in this country have some degree of underlying health condition. This guy is dead because the cop thought kneeling on this guy's neck was a good idea even after the guy said he couldn't breath and then even after the guy became unresponsive. That his underlying conditions made him more vulnerable to the actions of the cop is irrelevant. He'd be alive were it not for the knee on the neck.

 

[llknp]

The majority of adults in this country have some degree of underlying health condition. This guy is dead because the cop thought kneeling on this guy's neck was a good idea even after the guy said he couldn't breath and then even after the guy became unresponsive. That his underlying conditions made him more vulnerable to the actions of the cop is irrelevant. He'd be alive were it not for the knee on the neck.

And again, what precipitated the officer kneeling on this guy? A lot of folks seem really ready to condemn this officer without knowing the pertinent details.

 

[PghPanther]

I wonder...............the revolts going on right now are organized with deeper pockets and coordination than any Black community could do. Perhaps Floyd is just the spark used as an excuse with the right timing to start things. His arrest is strange and doesn't fit protocol for the police or emergency handling of him..........its odd very odd.............

Consider as this situation heats up..........more and more nationwide. No matter what Trump does it will be criticized as blowing it and probably be labeled a criminal for his actions..........he has no winning decision out of this situation.

There is enough of a critical mass of non-Whites and White cuck leftists to make this situation take down the government or at least take over the government come election time. But there must be power and purpose behind them the way this has developed.

I can't help but thinking this is going to tear this country apart if not now............come election time and from there on out it will be the beginning of SA in America, the beginning of a bulkanization or one hell of a bloody civil war.....

 

[Grock]

Justice for Floyd! And wearing a mask and social distancing too! Model Citizen.

 

[Bax333]

The majority of adults in this country have some degree of underlying health condition. This guy is dead because the cop thought kneeling on this guy's neck was a good idea even after the guy said he couldn't breath and then even after the guy became unresponsive. That his underlying conditions made him more vulnerable to the actions of the cop is irrelevant. He'd be alive were it not for the knee on the neck.

He'd also be alive if he had not broken the law. Amazingly most people I know go through their entire life without getting involved in anything more than a traffic citation from the police.

 

[PghPanther]

He'd also be alive if he had not broken the law. Amazingly most people I know go through their entire life without getting involved in anything more than a traffic citation from the police.

and what would the typical Black say?...............Laws are created by Whites for Whites and are oppressive to Blacks........we can't get no far shake with the law.........it be racist!

60 years it has remained that way and will continue..................Most them lack the insight to understand why laws can benefit everyone in society if we all play by the rules..........delayed gratification and strategic insight into ones' life goals and society in general is not the domain of thought in a race that has an average IQ of 85 in America......

 

[Scotto]

The cop kneeling on his neck killed him. The coroner said wasn't asphyxiation, but all the other crap wrong with him that caused him to die when he got knelt on. Not complicated, really.

Read it again, and tell me that the coroner's report isn't trying to "soften" what the cop did by stating that it was partly due to Floyd's health problems.

 

[night driver]

Bear with me, as the back of my head wants to get something into the front.

We have established sufficient as fact for me that the Cop and the deceased worked for the El Nuevo Rodeo Club with some overlapping shifts.
We have established the presence in the local area of a LOT of Chinese Funny Money, and it MIGHT have been he was passing one of the notes.
NOW we depart from established facts and head off into the mists. DID the cop spread the funny money around at the club? Cash pure businesses are GREAT for entering funny money into an area.
DID the cop recognize Floyd as one of his cash mules?
Is this why Floyd had to die?

Or was FLOYD the one passing queer around the club??

(*queer=counterfeit money back in another age)

 

[PghPanther]

View attachment 199833
Justice for Floyd! And wearing a mask and social distancing too! Model Citizen.

Do you think this guy in that attachment listed above has ever sat down and made a personal budget of his expenses in life?

And we expect that homo erectus to function in society?

Folks get a good look here....those are the people that are breeding.............and doing it on the backs of tax payers who can't afford to have but maybe one child.

The rich have loop holes in taxes........the poor suck taxes for programs.................and the backs of the working class are burdened by them..............

 

[summerthyme]

And again, what precipitated the officer kneeling on this guy? A lot of folks seem really ready to condemn this officer without knowing the pertinent details.

Honestly, it really doesn't matter... because he knelt on him for *over eight minutes*... and the last 3, the guy was deeply unconscious or already dead. ANY other "details" are pretty irrelevant.

Also... I saw the video of when they brought the ambulance in and finally sort o casually flipped him into a stretcher and loaded him... his head/face were BLACK. I know, he was a black guy... but his face/head were multiple shades darker than his shoulders and arms. If it had been a white guy, he'd have been obviously deep blue/purple.

This whole thing makes NO sense whatsoever! Even the ambulance crew... they appeared to be cops, not EMTs. They were armed and wearing bulletproof vests! Is that normal for EMTs in Minneapolis? Looked odd.

What looked much odder was their utterly casual and cavalier attitude towards Floyd. Not one person did even the most cursory exam... the first one walked up (while Chauvin was still kneeling on his neck), briefly touched Floyd's deep black/congested face, then stepped back so they could get the stretcher closer. Didn't even take a pulse, much less attempt to provide aid.

I'm not much of a woo person, but there is something VERY hinky about this whole mess!

Summerthyme

 

[summerthyme]

He'd also be alive if he had not broken the law. Amazingly most people I know go through their entire life without getting involved in anything more than a traffic citation from the police.

So... we KNOW for sure that he passed a counterfeit $20... and KNEW it was? As I've posted other places, he definitely bears a lot of responsibility for his own death, IF the reports of him refusing to get into the patrol car was accurate. But unless he was printing $20s in his basement and passing them around town, or knowingly helping someone else who was, it's very possible he had no clue he had given the store a counterfeit bill. I personally got a counterfeit 20 from our small town bank once, several years back. Fortunately, it looked "off" to me (I've got a weird ability to spot even small differences in things... for example, I can spot 4 leaf clovers just walking through acres of the normal 3 leafed ones), and I took it right back to them. Even more fortunately, I'm well known there, and they replaced it without question.

For sure I'm not saying Floyd was blameless, but he didn't do anything deserving of the death penalty... and even if he had, the cops' job was to arrest him, not act like judge, jury and executioner.

Summerthyme

 

[Raggedyman]

That right there pretty much sums it up.

damnayshun!!!! something I can ACTUALLY AGREE WITH YOU on this Publius!!!!!

 

[naturallysweet]

Except that, once he was cuffed, on the ground and under their control, there was NO valid reason to continue kneeling on him.

I'm curious, because I have no clue... could compression of the carotid artery cause death without leaving any signs typical of asphyxiation or "strangulation"? Because it looked to me like the cop was kneeling on the side of his neck in a way that could have been causing that...

I absolutely agree that his behavior (IF it's true that, as reported, once cuffed he refused to sit in the patrol car) was a huge contributor to his death, regardless of the terminal cause. Once again, if he'd just cooperated and gotten into the patrol car, he'd be alive, and likely out on bail within hours. It seems a curious overreaction for a relatively minor charge... unless he had thousands of bucks in counterfeit at his home, and was worried about it turning into a major federal beef. Otherwise, as others have pointed out, it's very possible to get a counterfeit bill just in normal commerce and "pass it" without knowledge or intent.

Summerthyme

remember, his body was full of drugs. besides the DUI charge, he might have had some drug indicted rage or paranoia. Normally nice people can act like animals on certain drugs.

They can get the cops for refusing to render aid. (Is CPR). But that's more of a firing offense.

IF the dead guy was white, the officers would still
be employed, and not arrested or facing charges.

 

[Grock]

Do you think this guy in that attachment listed above has ever sat down and made a personal budget of his expenses in life?

And we expect that homo erectus to function in society?

Folks get a good look here....those are the people that are breeding.............and doing it on the backs of tax payers who can't afford to have but maybe one child.

The rich have loop holes in taxes........the poor suck taxes for programs.................and the backs of the working class are burdened by them..............

 

[Bax333]

So... we KNOW for sure that he passed a counterfeit $20... and KNEW it was? As I've posted other places, he definitely bears a lot of responsibility for his own death, IF the reports of him refusing to get into the patrol car was accurate. But unless he was printing $20s in his basement and passing them around town, or knowingly helping someone else who was, it's very possible he had no clue he had given the store a counterfeit bill. I personally got a counterfeit 20 from our small town bank once, several years back. Fortunately, it looked "off" to me (I've got a weird ability to spot even small differences in things... for example, I can spot 4 leaf clovers just walking through acres of the normal 3 leafed ones), and I took it right back to them. Even more fortunately, I'm well known there, and they replaced it without question.

For sure I'm not saying Floyd was blameless, but he didn't do anything deserving of the death penalty... and even if he had, the cops' job was to arrest him, not act like judge, jury and executioner.

Summerthyme

Not saying he deserved to die. I also worked enough years in the ghetto to have no doubt he knew exactly what he was doing with the counterfeit bill. Handled enough of these type of calls and every one of them knew what they were doing.

 

[Samuel Adams]

George Floyd died Monday from a combination of preexisting health conditions exacerbated by being held down by Minneapolis officers, not from strangulation or asphyxiation, based on the medical examiner’s initial report.
Preliminary findings from a Tuesday autopsy conducted by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner found “no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxiation or strangulation,” according to the criminal complaint filed Friday against former officer Derek Michael Chauvin.

“Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease,” said the complaint from the Hennepin County Attorney. “The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death.”

The Minneapolis police officer fired earlier this week was charged Friday with third-degree murder and manslaughter after kneeling on Mr. Floyd’s neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds. Video showed he was unresponsive for the last 2 minutes and 53 seconds.

“Police are trained that this type of restraint with a subject in a prone position is inherently dangerous,” the complaint said.

George Floyd died of police restraint combined with health problems, not asphyxiation: Autopsy

George Floyd died Monday from a combination of preexisting health conditions exacerbated by being held down by Minneapolis officers, not from strangulation or asphyxiation, based on the medical examiner’s initial report.

www.washingtontimes.com

I call bs.

George Floyd died of corona-virus.

Check the death cert.

 

[Namsgrls]

So I’m just curious. Did any of you read post #21 by Ragnarok? I keep reading comments from some of you that he was a thug, and strung out on drugs, etc. If the information in that post is correct, then none of the other stuff is true. I don’t pretend to know what kind of a man George Floyd really was, or what the truth actually is, but then neither does anyone else who is reading on a message board. All I know for sure is that the story has taken over the news cycle 24/7, and is dividing our country even more than it was. I doubt we’ll ever know the truth....just like almost everything else that that’s being reported as “news”. It’s to the place where I can only pay attention to what’s going on for a very short time anymore. It’s all very sad and frustrating. So again....just curious as to what opinion you might have about the above post.

 

[summerthyme]

Namsgrls... it appears he was a little of both. He's got a fairly substantial rap sheet with the Houston PD, but he also appeared to have more on the ball than many black men. Supposedly was a Christian ("street preacher"), but if he WAS high on some illegal substance (or even legally drunk) to the extent that he didn't cooperate with a reasonable request by the cops, he apparently was having trouble living his faith.

IOW, he appears to be a fallible human being, who apparently did "turn his life around" to a grest extent when he moved north a few years ago. And he certainly didn't do anything in the incident that shoukd have cost him his life.

Summerthyme

 

[KFhunter]

Honestly, it really doesn't matter... because he knelt on him for *over eight minutes*... and the last 3, the guy was deeply unconscious or already dead. ANY other "details" are pretty irrelevant.

Also... I saw the video of when they brought the ambulance in and finally sort o casually flipped him into a stretcher and loaded him... his head/face were BLACK. I know, he was a black guy... but his face/head were multiple shades darker than his shoulders and arms. If it had been a white guy, he'd have been obviously deep blue/purple.

This whole thing makes NO sense whatsoever! Even the ambulance crew... they appeared to be cops, not EMTs. They were armed and wearing bulletproof vests! Is that normal for EMTs in Minneapolis? Looked odd.

What looked much odder was their utterly casual and cavalier attitude towards Floyd. Not one person did even the most cursory exam... the first one walked up (while Chauvin was still kneeling on his neck), briefly touched Floyd's deep black/congested face, then stepped back so they could get the stretcher closer. Didn't even take a pulse, much less attempt to provide aid.

I'm not much of a woo person, but there is something VERY him my about this whole mess!

Summerthyme

I dont know for sure, but I wonder if they werent tatical ems. There's been a big push on training and hiring emts that are armed and wear vests to go into hostile situations like school shootings.

Instead of staging up and waiting for a scene to be clear they can go in and stop bleeding and save lives

Its a gap that needs filled, they're a slap a tq on and run setup.

 

[KFhunter]

Here they are:

Emergency Medical Services Fellowship

Emergency Medical Services combine clinical, administrative, and field experience in both urban and suburban EMS environments.

www.hennepinhealthcare.org

This appears to be the group that carted away Floyd, a tactical ems crew.

They're both law enforcement and ems, but their primary role is ems - the law enforcement aspect gets them into unsafe scenes unlike a traditional ems role.

 

[Chance]

Health Warning: If you have preexisting health conditions or problems with substance abuse, then for pete's sake cooperate with the police and make interactions with the law relatively easy on yourself. Cops don't know your health issues. You could end up dead due to 'exacerbation'.

If you are obese and decide to run from the cops, and you keel over....some would say the cop chasing you killed you. If you are refusing to sit properly in the police car and you get pinned by a cop and your brain aneurysm bursts...some would say the cop pinning you killed you. Take responsibility for your own well being and safety. The cop doesn't know your medical history - nor should he be expected to know your health problems. But you do - act accordingly.

That said - All police brutality should be rooted out and those cops fired.

A friend of mine, when he was a new officer - was riding with an 'experienced' cop on his first day on the job. When they made an arrest, this 'experienced' cop slammed the arrested person's head into the side of the car roof as they were getting into the car. When a young woman was arrested, my friend knew what this cop was going to do, and put his hand in the way to stop him. My friend was called into the Chief's office the next day and was asked, "What does it say on the side of your car?" My friend said "To protect and to serve". The Chief said, "Never believe that. It will bit you in the butt every time." Then that Chief fired my friend - he only worked for the department for one day. He went on to work for another department and was always there 'to protect and to serve' for 30 years until he retired - one of the good cops. This nastiness went all the way to the top.

 

[Satanta]

Doesn't matter what contributed to him dying-he is an Excuse for Animals to act like Animals. Not a damn one of them really care about him and 99.9% of them never heard of him.

He died in Wgite Cp custody. Kill all Whites. Burn the town and rob me a TV. That's it.

I doubt the Cop got up that morning hinking "You know what? I'm tired of being a Cop, I hate my life and my family, don't want to work to Retirement so I'm going to Suicide myself by killin' me a Negra so I can get Offed in Prison if not Executed soon enough. Hoo RAH!"

I've been arrested twice-handcuffed, backseat ride to County, sit on the too skinny front to back bench mounted just far enough from the wall and close enough to the floor to make them really uncomfortable to sit on for any time period but still got to sit on it for hours.

Never got face-planted on the ground, knee in back, kne on neck-nope, turn around, hands behind back and handcuffed and led to car.

The Cps would not drop him in the street for fun-even Bad Cops aren't that Stupid.

Killed him? Yup-but I doubt seriously it was Intentional but intentional or not the Cop is going to fry and the ...people are going to burn shit and steal.

Whether he [[the Black Dude was a Preacher or Thug I've no idea but I do know Every. Single. Time the Black guy had "Gotten his Life together, was loved by Everyone, was going to be a Preacher or Doctor" Every time.

Now we get to deal with Today-buildings burned, people killed and lives destroyed. Heard earlier they charged a Business owner with Murder for shooting a Looter and saw a vid about a Black Firefighter who was working on opening a business to retire and his place got burned.

**** the people doing this. I'd drop a MOAB in their Laps if I was given the choice.

 

[Altura Ct.]

Well said Sat.

He died in Wgite Cp custody. Kill all Whites. Burn the town and rob me a TV. That's it.

Every single time

Whether he [[the Black Dude was a Preacher or Thug I've no idea but I do know Every. Single. Time the Black guy had "Gotten his Life together, was loved by Everyone, was going to be a Preacher or Doctor" Every time.

Indeed. Of course in a few instances it may even be true but when it is a lie most of the time, how do you know which is which? it's kind of like the MSM overall. When are they lying when or they not?

There is a decidedly and prevalent anti-white vibe, attack, bias &, campaign going on in this nation. People better gets their heads out of their rears about it too. It is almost nonstop. Constant rhetoric about 'racist', 'racism' & 'white privilege'. Barrage and conditioning. It is what they teach in our schools. It is getting more intense too. They are and have weaponized it. If they get/regain power especially when in the not too distant future whites become an ethnic minority it won't be good. It won't be good now if they do but in probably less than 20 years at current rate of immigration, births and whites having fewer children it will be worse and who knows exactly how that manifest itself but anyone who thinks it will be hunky-dory is delusional. Think about what's being said & done right now. Imagine them in power?

 

[Jez]

I'm curious. Due to what's going on in Minneapolis can we trust the ME's report? It wouldn't be the first time politics skewed an ME report.

 

[MountainBiker]

He'd also be alive if he had not broken the law. Amazingly most people I know go through their entire life without getting involved in anything more than a traffic citation from the police.

The last I knew passing a counterfeit $20 did not carry a death sentence, and even if it did, the cop wasn't authorized to find the guy guilty and execute the sentence. Be careful what you wish for. You might not like it if vigilante justice comes for you or your family from a local cop that thinks you're just getting what you deserve. One does not need to be a genius to know that kneeling on someone's neck is ill-advised, nor that maybe when the guy becomes unresponsive that perhaps the guy is in medical distress or worse.

 

[Illini Warrior]

The majority of adults in this country have some degree of underlying health condition. This guy is dead because the cop thought kneeling on this guy's neck was a good idea even after the guy said he couldn't breath and then even after the guy became unresponsive. That his underlying conditions made him more vulnerable to the actions of the cop is irrelevant. He'd be alive were it not for the knee on the neck.

errrrrrrrrrrrrr - he was crooking - that killed him - his entire life was crap and he finished it that way ...

that probably was the 4-5th street POS that cop had to deal with that shift - that cop doesn't live your prissy pine scented life >>> he's not a paramedic and doesn't care to be - he's a garbage man of society that is trying not to get killed, stabbed or jabbed by some punk's disease laced needle ...

get some reality in your life - MPLS is a utter pleasure compared to REAL city trash heaps

 

[Scrapman]

The bigger question in my mind is who in the hell ever thought this was a valid means of constraint. And who started implementing the teaching of this type of technique.

 

[MountainBiker]

errrrrrrrrrrrrr - he was crooking - that killed him - his entire life was crap and he finished it that way ...

that probably was the 4-5th street POS that cop had to deal with that shift - that cop doesn't live your prissy pine scented life >>> he's not a paramedic and doesn't care to be - he's a garbage man of society that is trying not to get killed, stabbed or jabbed by some punk's disease laced needle ...

get some reality in your life - MPLS is a utter pleasure compared to REAL city trash heaps

Well that cop will do some hard time for stupidly thinking he could take the law into his own hands. I have no illusions that the guy was citizen of the year, but passing a $20 counterfeit bill did not give the cop the right to do what he did. Minneapolis may be a shithole for all I know but cops can't just kill people because they think they deserve it. And anyone kneeling on someone's neck for as long as that cop did should probably realize they might be killing the guy, especially after he goes unresponsive and you're still kneeling on him. If the cop was too stupid to realize that, then he was too stupid to be a cop.

 

[Housecarl]

Family is bringing in the same ME who did the second autopsy on Epstein.

 

[Maryh]

Wonder how bad the riots will be when the police officer gets off with a slap on the hands due to the coroner's report!

 

[Faroe]

Honestly, it really doesn't matter... because he knelt on him for *over eight minutes*... and the last 3, the guy was deeply unconscious or already dead. ANY other "details" are pretty irrelevant.

Also... I saw the video of when they brought the ambulance in and finally sort o casually flipped him into a stretcher and loaded him... his head/face were BLACK. I know, he was a black guy... but his face/head were multiple shades darker than his shoulders and arms. If it had been a white guy, he'd have been obviously deep blue/purple.

This whole thing makes NO sense whatsoever! Even the ambulance crew... they appeared to be cops, not EMTs. They were armed and wearing bulletproof vests! Is that normal for EMTs in Minneapolis? Looked odd.

What looked much odder was their utterly casual and cavalier attitude towards Floyd. Not one person did even the most cursory exam... the first one walked up (while Chauvin was still kneeling on his neck), briefly touched Floyd's deep black/congested face, then stepped back so they could get the stretcher closer. Didn't even take a pulse, much less attempt to provide aid.

I'm not much of a woo person, but there is something VERY hinky about this whole mess!

Summerthyme

I found that bizarre. Kept bugging me. Realized it reminded me of when I worked at the local animal shelter, on the days we put down dogs. Just something you have to do, it is routine, and no one is surprised at the outcome, or trying to bring back anyone from the brink. You just swallow any emotions you have about it, and get the job done.

These cops have a guy die literally under their boot, and no one is surprised, no one is upset, or panicked...no "Oh Shit!" moment whatsoever. Looked planned - even rehearsed, for all the officials involved, just waiting until they were SURE the Floyd was dead. And, oddly too, they didn't seem to be going to much trouble to hide the event.

I simply can't make sense of it any other way. Speculation: I think Floyd was perhaps mixed up with them somehow - intriguing connections with cash business they both worked at, and the counterfeit money.

 

[ShyGirl]

OK, I'm going to climb out on this branch, with chainsaw in hand. I don't know who is driving this bus, but it is a big expensive bus and we are all in it. I feel like we are all being played big time. We're all taking sides gussing this and that about the cop and the black guy. We don't know shit, but this has blown up in every city. We were already being setup by the virus and the stay at home orders. All the real bad guys needed was a big match to light it up. It may be that they thought they could use the virus protests to get things started but those darn patriots with "automatic" weapons never fired. So now they go back to plan B. Get the blacks riled up against the evil white cops.

So lets make up a story. These two guys know each other and maybe didn't like each other. The black guy has some problem physically where he might drop dead and so he decided to take one for the team. Some big guy with lots of money is handing out money and wants to stir things before the virus crisis goes completely away and people become comfortable again with life. Never let a serious crisis go to waste. So this big guy with lots of money says he'll take care of all the black guy's friends and family if he does this and plus as an added bonus lots of people in lots of big cities get to party down, burn things and get new TVs.

Standing back now waiting for the flame throwers.

 

[Grouchy Granny]

Talked to a friend on Thursday who lives in the 'burbs just outside the Twin Cities. She told me that the MPD has had a really bad reputation for the last 10 or so years for being extreme "hard asses". She also said, color didn't seem to matter if the cop was in a bad mood that day.

She thought they should just fire all of them and start over!

 

[summerthyme]

I found that bizarre. Kept bugging me. Realized it reminded me of when I worked at the local animal shelter, on the days we put down dogs. Just something you have to do, it is routine, and no one is surprised at the outcome, or trying to bring back anyone from the brink. You just swallow any emotions you have about it, and get the job done.

These cops have a guy die literally under their boot, and no one is surprised, no one is upset, or panicked...no "Oh Shit!" moment whatsoever. Looked planned - even rehearsed, for all the officials involved, just waiting until they were SURE the Floyd was dead. And, oddly too, they didn't seem to be going to much trouble to hide the event.

I simply can't make sense of it any other way. Speculation: I think Floyd was perhaps mixed up with them somehow - intriguing connections with cash business they both worked at, and the counterfeit money.

Yep. Sort of reminded me of finding a dead chick in a pen of 100 or more... "shrug. Oh, well. It happens". However, if we accidently step on one, there's *at least* a twinge of regret and an "oh, damn!" reaction... there wasn't even a hint of that from any of the state actors in that tragedy/farce

Summerthyme