OP-ED A Military Coup in the U.S.? A Surprising Number of Americans Might Support One

[Rex Jackson]

A person just can't walk up to a soldier on the street and ask them because they will deny or wont answer and walk away. But out of 51,000,000 soldiers on our soil at any given time, active, inactive and retired, a large majority now despises the admin and politicians in general. Look at what has happened to troops and vets! These are the ones that stand out:

-300+ commanding officers fired for no apparent reason except the FED feared they wouldn't follow orders
-Gulf War Syndrome - most likely comes from forced vaccinations
-4000 Vets get HIV after colonoscopy
-12,000 Vets get Hep A, B, C, after colonoscopy and other checkups
-Seal Team Six
-Continual orders to fire on women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan
-Student loans suspended after enlisted
-Repeatedly Sent into combat situations ill informed and ill equipped
-"Intelligence" ignored
-Multiple choppers full of marines shot down in a supposed secure area
-repeatedly asked to ignore oath and constitution

Follow orders until it's time NOT to follow orders

 

[Chance]

Hello TB2K,

You know we can't recover the way we are going now? Right?

This country and the world are spiraling downward. Give Obama et al another 18 months and we're toast.

America is corrupt to the core. TPTB don't follow The Constitution. There are no checks and balances. The government has been hijacked by "Hope and Change". It's going badly for all of us.


Actually, I really don't think that after all the hard work that Obama, Soros, Jarrett, the Clintons, Reid, Pelosi, The present Supreme Court and The Moslem Brotherhood (plus others) have put in to take down America that THEY will just quietly step aside and let Trump, Cruz, whomever rescind, repair, retake, rebuild America. I don't think it's going to happen.

Look at all THEY have done to the country. And THEY still have 18 months left!!

I hope before we get to the point of no return which will be in 18 months, that the military steps up to save the country from these traitors. My faith is NOT with my government. My family has strong military ties - I'll take my chances with the military.

If there isn't some form of a revolution or coup then we have surrendered the country. And it's quite obvious that we can't fight without arms.


Chance
PS My old supervisor use to say "Things will be different after The Revolution!"....now that's "Hope and Change" I can believe in!

 

[Mr. Peabody]

The pendulum of US politics has swung too far to the left. It was pulled left by the socialist/Marxist/progressive/democrats and it was pushed left by the progressive Rs/statist/banksters.

If by chance those that are pulling it lose their grip, the ones on the pushing side are going to be the first to get sliced. That is why they must see this through. They understand that if by chance the pendulum does lose momentum and starts into the other direction, the first to go will be the Carl Rove-Bush-Boner-McConnell-Graham-Collins-McStain types.

After the pendulum gains momentum away from the left, that is when those on the left becomes marginalized and are exposed as the enemy of the Constitution. They will not allow this because they know history. As far as the pendulum has swung to the left, it will swing further to the right. Too far right is also quite a danger.

The left has made their beds. They have made themselves known out in public, in the open, no masks. It is inconceivable they will allow anyone to stop their takeover now. Their lives depend on it.

 

[Chance]

Exactly, Mr. Peabody.

"It is inconceivable they will allow anyone to stop their takeover now. Their lives depend on it."

Chance

 

[Millwright]

I agree with Rex & Chance.

There are plenty of good guys in the system still and a lot more that have recently separated, but still have operational knowledge.

We can only hope that some of those remaining at the top positions are just sandbagging to stay there til the time is right.

 

[packyderms_wife]

Coup here in the states? If so this country will become a third world sh*t hole and in short order! And I'm being polite. Disagree with me? Then go reread what Melodi posted.

 

[hiwall]

Would it really be that different from the War of Independence that we had to start this nation?
It would all hinge on the motives and character of those in charge of the rebellion. It could end up being very very bad or it could end up being good.
The thing is some want to wait until it gets to be a total tyranny here but likely that would be too late. The act would have to to start while we still had some freedoms so we could act decisively.

 

[Mr. Peabody]

It would all hinge on the motives and character of those in charge of the rebellion.

This is Exactly what separated the Continentals from all other "rebels"

This must be the factor that directs any movement to regain the country.

Ask yourselves this: At what point would the Continentals have realized, it was too late to take action against King George? Their walls were closing in fast too.

 

[Be Well]

The pendulum of US politics has swung too far to the left. It was pulled left by the socialist/Marxist/progressive/democrats and it was pushed left by the progressive Rs/statist/banksters.

If by chance those that are pulling it lose their grip, the ones on the pushing side are going to be the first to get sliced. That is why they must see this through. They understand that if by chance the pendulum does lose momentum and starts into the other direction, the first to go will be the Carl Rove-Bush-Boner-McConnell-Graham-Collins-McStain types.

After the pendulum gains momentum away from the left, that is when those on the left becomes marginalized and are exposed as the enemy of the Constitution. They will not allow this because they know history. As far as the pendulum has swung to the left, it will swing further to the right. Too far right is also quite a danger.

The left has made their beds. They have made themselves known out in public, in the open, no masks. It is inconceivable they will allow anyone to stop their takeover now. Their lives depend on it.

They will not allow. Children have tantrums. "They" are not all powerful. It WILL be interesting.

 

[Be Well]

A person just can't walk up to a soldier on the street and ask them because they will deny or wont answer and walk away. But out of 51,000,000 soldiers on our soil at any given time, active, inactive and retired, a large majority now despises the admin and politicians in general. Look at what has happened to troops and vets! These are the ones that stand out:

-300+ commanding officers fired for no apparent reason except the FED feared they wouldn't follow orders
-Gulf War Syndrome - most likely comes from forced vaccinations
-4000 Vets get HIV after colonoscopy
-12,000 Vets get Hep A, B, C, after colonoscopy and other checkups
-Seal Team Six
-Continual orders to fire on women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan
-Student loans suspended after enlisted
-Repeatedly Sent into combat situations ill informed and ill equipped
-"Intelligence" ignored
-Multiple choppers full of marines shot down in a supposed secure area
-repeatedly asked to ignore oath and constitution

Follow orders until it's time NOT to follow orders

I agree with you.

 

[Be Well]

The uprising in Egypt against Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood was a military coup combined with popular support. That has had a good outcome, much better than Morsii/MB.

Just saying.

 

[Bullwinkle]

Even if 100% of the people in a government were good, government will still deteriorate into a tyranny
You can not delegate a right you your self do not have. You do not have a right to tell others what to do or steal their money.
Yet the idea of government is that conscription and theft is perfectly OK when done by government.

 

[hiwall]

You do not have a right to tell others what to do or steal their money.
Yet the idea of government is that conscription and theft is perfectly OK when done by government.

Whether a government or a commune there is always a need to protect the group from invaders. And a need for infrastructure that will benefit all. Both can only be achieved by taxes and forced or voluntary military duty.

 

[Dozdoats]

It is inconceivable they will allow anyone to stop their takeover now

Many, many times in the course of human history, victory has slipped through the fingers of those who sought it at the last minute. The seeds of victory have to be planted well in advance and nurtured carefully while they grow.

What the Left has been planting for itself are hardly seeds of victory, if my studies of history have done me any good at all.

 

[Sleeping Cobra]

Where do you think Obummer would have stopped, if all of the brakes were removed, instead of just some? If he had total control over all media, the internet, etc.?

People would be disappearing. Lots of them. Doors would be kicked down for firearms, all of them. I know that man. He is a TYRANT. And he would be a mass killer, if he could get away with it.

I guess we have the Country we deserve. Obama would love to open death camps and have people exterminated. Your guns / bullets will not save you.

 

[Sleeping Cobra]

This is one of the best quality threads i have ever read yet extremely sobering. We can say we have a Constitution and Bill of Rights, but if the leaders don't abide by them, they are nil to us. Expect to lose our Country. By the way, don't ever believe the Feds would not nuke cities in this Country (but blame someone else). They caused 911 (September 11, 2001) and not some Muslims.

 

[Sacajawea]

Coup here in the states? If so this country will become a third world sh*t hole and in short order! And I'm being polite. Disagree with me? Then go reread what Melodi posted.

I don't disagree with your assessment, but I feel that this is becoming a certain future -- no matter what happens in Nov '16 or Jan '17.

 

[Be Well]

Even if 100% of the people in a government were good, government will still deteriorate into a tyranny
You can not delegate a right you your self do not have. You do not have a right to tell others what to do or steal their money.
Yet the idea of government is that conscription and theft is perfectly OK when done by government.

The only option to government is small tribes. And they still had or have chiefs of some kind.

Humans grouped together in anything larger than immediate families require government of some kind.

 

[Dozdoats]

I guess we have the Country we deserve. Obama would love to open death camps and have people exterminated. Your guns / bullets will not save you.

An old .mil friend is fond of saying, "You have the government you wanted. You have the economy you wanted. You have the military you wanted. You have the educational system you wanted. SO WHY ARE YOU NOT HAPPY?" But, he's a curmudgeon

As to what Obama wants, he may approach getting it over time, his or the next administration's, depending on how things go. That will be interesting to see.

As to guns and bullets not saving us ... how are our guns and bullets any less powerful than the Obamazoids'? I don't understand the meaning here.

 

[Mr. Peabody]

There is always the possibility that the elites certainly lose sleep over. I bet in the back of their minds they know there is a chance of something truly catastrophic happening which they cannot ever control.

They fear The Armed Masses, in a significant quantity of course, rising up against all Marxist, commie bastards, progressive (I hate that pukish progressive word) socialist intellectuals, world banksters and show they have had it. They only fear what they don't control. They have relied on the USA as being subservient, passive, non-resistance, get along, weak kneed, pencil necked, educated, feminized, American Idol watching, fagfest loving, guns are icky, it takes a village, you dint build that, oh for shame on my whiteness, those poor little children at the border, let em all in cuz we are so rich and privileged, the gubmint is here to help you...un American new world order little serfs that this public education system and heathenistic culture has produced. (SEE THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO)

Bullets make me happy.
Putting them on target a long ways away makes me downright giddy!

The armed patriot can really make an elitist piss his commie pants.

 

[Be Well]

There is always the possibility that the elites certainly lose sleep over. I bet in the back of their minds they know there is a chance of something truly catastrophic happening which they cannot ever control.

They fear The Armed Masses, in a significant quantity of course, rising up against all Marxist, commie bastards, progressive (I hate that pukish progressive word) socialist intellectuals, world banksters and show they have had it. They only fear what they don't control. They have relied on the USA as being subservient, passive, non-resistance, get along, weak kneed, pencil necked, educated, feminized, American Idol watching, fagfest loving, guns are icky, it takes a village, you dint build that, oh for shame on my whiteness, those poor little children at the border, let em all in cuz we are so rich and privileged, the gubmint is here to help you...un American new world order little serfs that this public education system and heathenistic culture has produced. (SEE THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO)

Bullets make me happy.
Putting them on target a long ways away makes me downright giddy!

The armed patriot can really make an elitist piss his commie pants.

People think the "TPTB" have more power than they actually have. They only have that power because enough people haven't yet decided to take it away from them. A national strike would be interesting. Nothing violent, just "we aren't going to work/shop/send mail/pay taxes or permit fees" etcetc. I'm really interested to see how that would work.

 

[Bullwinkle]

Whether a government or a commune there is always a need to protect the group from invaders. And a need for infrastructure that will benefit all. Both can only be achieved by taxes and forced or voluntary military duty.

You are absolutely wrong on that point.
Invaders are dealt with by voluntary cooperation. You do not need government to have a militia.
As for the world, only governments can initiate wars.
Governments have killed more of their own people than have been killed in all the wars.
Government never built anything.
Governments hold a gun to your head to take your money.
Government skims a big chunk and pays others to get the work done.
Cut out the middleman parasite.
Government is nothing but a parasite.
There is no logic to the idea of committing violence to do a so called good service for the victim.
The free market created a little device you can keep in your pocket that lets you talk to the world.(cell phone)
Why can't free market cooperation make a flat place? (A road)
The first interstates were funded privately. Look up 'The Lincoln freeway or highway'.
Larken Rose has a number of short Youtube videos on the subject.
His book 'The Most Dangerous Superstition' shows the fallacy of the belief in government.

You are stuck on the same idea you have been indoctrinated in.
I do not have all the answers. There are thousand of others that have better solutions than me.
But, I will not hold a gun to your head to make you live your life the way I want you to.
What right does a government have to dictate how I live my life.
Freedom is risky. Freedom and Rights are in direct opposition to government

You showed above a view held by many. People do not want freedom. People love their chains.
People from time to time just want a little longer chain or longer leash.
The best slaves are the ones who think they are free. The cage you live in is a construct of your own mind.
When the door to your cage is open people will cower in a corner rather than go out into the unknown.

 

[Mr. Peabody]

The more I read about the anti-federalist the more I realize how much they understood the inner workings of government(s) and how any and all governments are the eventual enemy of all citizens within the nation. I sometimes think government was the first parasite on this planet.

 

[cooter]

and for yrs, have said the same,

People think the "TPTB" have more power than they actually have. They only have that power because enough people haven't yet decided to take it away from them. A national strike would be interesting. Nothing violent, just "we aren't going to work/shop/send mail/pay taxes or permit fees" etcetc. I'm really interested to see how that would work.

now to get everyone else on board

 

[Be Well]

now to get everyone else on board

I've wanted one si, nce around the 2nd yr of 0bunghole. No violence, misbehavior, just no one goes to work, school, pays anything out. I give it 2 weeks max. I suppose doctors, firefighters and cops still might work. They could do slow down.

 

[Doat]

Just not going to happen unless you can do it from behind a keyboard.

 

[Housecarl]

There is always the possibility that the elites certainly lose sleep over. I bet in the back of their minds they know there is a chance of something truly catastrophic happening which they cannot ever control.

They fear The Armed Masses, in a significant quantity of course, rising up against all Marxist, commie bastards, progressive (I hate that pukish progressive word) socialist intellectuals, world banksters and show they have had it. They only fear what they don't control. They have relied on the USA as being subservient, passive, non-resistance, get along, weak kneed, pencil necked, educated, feminized, American Idol watching, fagfest loving, guns are icky, it takes a village, you dint build that, oh for shame on my whiteness, those poor little children at the border, let em all in cuz we are so rich and privileged, the gubmint is here to help you...un American new world order little serfs that this public education system and heathenistic culture has produced. (SEE THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO)

Bullets make me happy.
Putting them on target a long ways away makes me downright giddy!

The armed patriot can really make an elitist piss his commie pants.

People think the "TPTB" have more power than they actually have. They only have that power because enough people haven't yet decided to take it away from them. A national strike would be interesting. Nothing violent, just "we aren't going to work/shop/send mail/pay taxes or permit fees" etcetc. I'm really interested to see how that would work.

Hence the quote from George Orwell.....

"That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or laborer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there."

 

[AlfaMan]

A coup using the current US military? No thanks. Sad to say, but I just don't trust them anymore. There are probably a lot of good line units still in the military; but the current crop of leaders/officers I've seen and interacted with are better at cocktail party conversation and paperwork shuffling than actual throw down get it on combat. Understand, I live in the DC area and see lots and lots of officers punching their tickets. Majors and Colonel "P" types mostly. The majors irritate me and the promotable colonels make me want to vomit with their a** kissing..I wouldn't give you a plug nickel for officers....
Osama has purged well over 200 officers (leaders/commanders) during his reign, and has replaced them with more pliable yes men. Osama has wrecked this country's military (fags in trenches anyone? trannies in your tank? lesbians on your aircraft carrier? Ever seen an openly gay marine? San Francisco meets Camp Lejune and the resulting marine is combat ineffective coming out of Parris Island)and it will take some time to rebuild it. As one poster mentioned an army of the Reagan generation would fight-we're 45-50 years old now-but any of the newer ones would need "reeducation".

Now, a coup a la Civil War 2-sign me up. Give me a Jefferson Davis, give me a General Lee. Motivate us and people would fight.

 

[hiwall]

You are absolutely wrong on that point.
Invaders are dealt with by voluntary cooperation. You do not need government to have a militia.
As for the world, only governments can initiate wars.
Governments have killed more of their own people than have been killed in all the wars.
Governments hold a gun to your head to take your money.
Government skims a big chunk and pays others to get the work done.

I can agree with the above. With an exception of course
If other countries near you have a government then chances are they also have a large Army. You could not hope to defend yourself with just a voluntary militia. Once upon a time time yes but not now days.
I share your views on the evils of government but I honestly think now days one is required (maybe I AM brainwashed?).

You showed above a view held by many. People do not want freedom. People love their chains.
People from time to time just want a little longer chain or longer leash.
The best slaves are the ones who think they are free. The cage you live in is a construct of your own mind.
When the door to your cage is open people will cower in a corner rather than go out into the unknown.

This is certainly true and people always resist any change- even if it is good for them.

Don't you think it is desirable to have major highways, a city sewer system, a city water system, maybe airports, and possibly other things that benefit many people that could only be paid for with some kind of a tax system? Though personally I would have no problem living the rest of my life without those things.

 

[Publius]

Insurrection perhaps? Better known as popular up rising.

 

[Palmetto]

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

 

[Palmetto]

The more I read about the anti-federalist the more I realize how much they understood the inner workings of government(s) and how any and all governments are the eventual enemy of all citizens within the nation. I sometimes think government was the first parasite on this planet.

Alexander Hamilton was a POS.

P

 

[Dozdoats]

Alexander Hamilton was a POS.

And bankster owned and operated at that.

 

[Mongo]

That knife cuts both ways.

Amen
This President was voted in by the will of the people.
You do not want martial law - no, you don't

 

[Medical Maven]

Amen
This President was voted in by the will of the people.

Are you absolutely sure of that? I am not. And I will be less sure about the 2016 election, if we have one.

 

[Be Well]

Amen
This President was voted in by the will of the people.
You do not want martial law - no, you don't

The 2012 election was not won by actual legal votes. Hundreds of articles about criminal election fraud, collusion.

 

[hiwall]

You mean all the precincts that had over 120% voter turn out and voted 100% for Obama?

 

[NoDandy]

Are you absolutely sure of that? I am not. And I will be less sure about the 2016 election, if we have one.

I suspect manipulation of "electronic voting"

 

[Be Well]

I suspect manipulation of "electronic voting"

There were many methods of fraud in 2012. A notable one was bussing a bunch of Somalis around to various polling places and their caretaker telling them how to vote. They even cross a state line, IIRC. Someone videoed them at least 2 different polling places. How much more "in your face" can the dems get?

 

[NoDandy]

There were many methods of fraud in 2012. A notable one was bussing a bunch of Somalis around to various polling places and their caretaker telling them how to vote. They even cross a state line, IIRC. Someone videoed them at least 2 different polling places. How much more "in your face" can the dems get?

Probably a lot more in our face than we can imagine.