CORONA 40% of Wild Deer in US Have Coronavirus Antibodies

marsofold

Veteran Member
I concern myself a bit about this since I have numerous deer on my property and I raise sheep.

Startling Discovery Suggests 40% of Wild Deer in The US Have Had The Coronavirus


CARLY CASSELLA
4 AUGUST 2021

The novel coronavirus appears to have somehow jumped from humans to wild deer in some parts of the United States.
In the northeast of the nation, a recent federal survey found neutralizing antibodies for SARS-CoV-2 in 40 percent of all white-tailed deer (Odocoileus virginianus) that were sampled.
In the state of Michigan alone, 67 percent of free-ranging deer showed immune markers for the coronavirus in their bloodwork.
It's the first evidence of widespread exposure to SARS-CoV-2 in wild animals, and while the preprint study still needs to be verified and peer-reviewed, the findings are cause for concern.
While none of the deer showed adverse health effects, the presence of specific antibodies in their blood suggests they recently fought off the virus.
By silently harboring and spreading this pathogen, scientists worry deer populations are allowing SARS-CoV-2 to adapt and evolve into new strains – ones that could possibly re-infect humans years down the road with even greater transmissibility and severity than before.
After all, white-tailed deer in the US cross paths with our species a lot, whether it be from fieldwork, conservation work, feeding, hunting, or human wastewater, providing a perfect pathway for a virus to spread back and forth.
"The geographic distribution of this species encompasses most of North America and these animals are particularly abundant near urban population centers located in the eastern US," the authors write in their paper.
"Moreover, white-tailed deer can form social groups, a contact structure with the potential to support the intraspecies transmission of multiple pathogens."
Ever since the global pandemic first started, scientists have been worried about the novel coronavirus jumping from humans to another species of animal, known as zoonotic spillback.
Last year, for instance, an outbreak among farmed minks led to a massive cull of livestock in Europe and the United States. But unlike captive animals, infections among wild animals are not so easily controlled.
That's why scientists are so concerned by the recent findings. If SARS-CoV-2 can indeed find refuge in the wild, it could make eradication extremely difficult. If the virus adapts among another species and then reinfects humans, our vaccines might be far less effective in the future.
Recently, in Utah, a seemingly healthy wild mink tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, becoming the first free-ranging animal to pick up the virus. As scientists predicted, however, that was probably just the tip of the iceberg. Now, it seems apparent the virus has taken off among wild deer as well.
These free-ranging animals will need to be tested for viral RNA if we want to be absolutely sure that they are providing a reservoir for the novel coronavirus, but the presence of antibodies in their blood suggests they have somehow been exposed.
Previous studies in the laboratory have shown white-tailed deer are highly susceptible to SARS-CoV-2, and that one infected individual of this species can infect another.
This new survey suggests a similar spread could be happening in the wild, although more research is needed to figure out how that's happening.
The team had access to 385 wild white-tailed deer serum samples from January to March 2021, as well as 239 archived samples from 2011 to 2020, which they tested for SARS-CoV-2 antibodies.
Before the onset of the pandemic in 2019, government researchers found no immune markers for the SARS-CoV-2 virus in the bloodwork of wild deer. After the pandemic began, however, these antibodies began to pop up more and more.
In 2020, specific blood proteins for SARS-CoV-2 were found among three deer. Within the first three months of this year, however, nearly half of all 385 blood samples taken from deer in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Illinois, and New York showed the same neutralizing antibodies.
How these deer were exposed to the virus in the first place is still unclear. It could have jumped directly from humans, or it could have been passed from livestock or wild animals that came into contact with us, and then onto white-tailed deer.
As such, officials in the US are calling for greater wildlife surveillance, especially among predators and scavengers that regularly interact with deer.
"If there is a common source of exposure for the deer, then likely the same source can expose other animals," virologist Arinjay Banerjee from the University of Saskatchewan, who wasn't involved with the study, told Nature.
SARS-CoV-2 may be spilling into the wild faster than we can mop it up.
The study was published in bioRxiv.
 

Heliobas Disciple

TB Fanatic
I was about to post this in the main COVID thread, but I'll add it here too since you started a thread about it.


(fair use applies)

Wild U.S. deer found with coronavirus antibodies
A new study detected coronavirus antibodies in 40 percent of deer tested this year. Here’s why that matters.

Dina Fine Maron
Published August 2, 2021

White-tailed deer, a species found in every U.S. state except Alaska, appear to be contracting the coronavirus in the wild, according to the first study to search for evidence of an outbreak in wild deer.

Researchers with the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) analyzed blood samples from more than 600 deer in Michigan, Illinois, New York, and Pennsylvania over the past decade, and they discovered that 40 percent of the 152 wild deer tested from January through March 2021 had antibodies to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. Another three deer from January 2020 also had antibodies.

Their presence means that deer likely had encountered the virus and then fought it off. The animals didn’t appear sick, so they probably had asymptomatic infections, the agency says. Roughly 30 million white-tailed deer live in the U.S.

“The risk of animals spreading SARS-CoV-2 to people is considered low,” the USDA told National Geographic in a statement. Still, the results may suggest that “a secondary reservoir for SARS-CoV-2 has been established in wildlife in the U.S.” says Jüergen Richt, a veterinarian and director of the Center on Emerging and Zoonotic Infectious Diseases at Kansas State University who was not involved in the USDA’s work. If the virus is circulating in other species, it could continue to evolve, perhaps in ways that make it more severe or transmissible, undermining efforts to slow the pandemic.

Earlier this year, researchers established that deer are susceptible to the virus when infected in the lab—and that they can pass the virus to each other. But scientists didn’t know until now if infections were occurring in nature. The only species with lab results indicating that they had contracted the virus in the wild had been mink, though cats, dogs, otters, lions, tigers, snow leopards, gorillas, and a cougar have all had outbreaks in captivity or in zoos. (Learn more about efforts to vaccinate some of these animals.)

The new USDA report was posted on a preprint website, which means it hasn’t yet been peer-reviewed. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention didn’t respond to request for comment.
Human transmission

“At present there’s no evidence that SARS-CoV-2 is having any detrimental effect on deer. And for humans, our infinitely greater problem is spread from other humans,” says Daniel Bausch, a Switzerland-based zoonotic diseases expert and the director of emerging threats and global health security at the nonprofit FIND, which works to develop tests for poverty-related diseases.

The USDA says the risk to people who hunt white-tailed deer is not high. Though researchers posit the virus may have originally jumped from animal to human at a wet market in China, where wild animals were slaughtered and sold for food, differences in food preparation procedures matter.

There’s “no evidence that you can get COVID-19 by eating [contaminated] food, including wild hunted game meat,” the USDA says. The department is not issuing new guidance, pointing instead to existing government recommendations on good hygiene when processing animals, which include properly cooking and storing meat, and cleaning and disinfecting all knives, surfaces, and equipment.

Exactly how deer may have been exposed to the virus remains uncertain, though researchers suspect they were infected by humans. “Multiple activities could bring deer into contact with people, including captive cervid operations, field research, conservation work, wildlife tourism, wildlife rehabilitation, supplemental feeding, and hunting,” the USDA researchers wrote. Other possibilities include that they contracted it through contaminated wastewater or from exposure to other infected species like mink.

Researchers also don’t know if the deer are passing the virus among themselves or to other species.
Widening the net

There’s a chance that the deer didn’t have SARS-CoV-2 at all, Bausch says; another explanation is that the USDA’s tests detected antibodies for other coronaviruses, a phenomenon known as cross-reactivity.

The USDA says that’s unlikely. Researchers used a commercially available SARS-CoV-2 antibody screening test that has been highly accurate with other species. The USDA also helped rule out the chances of cross-reactivity by testing a subset of the samples using a second type of antibody test even more specific to SARS-CoV-2. That second test’s results mirrored the earlier findings, suggesting that the tests were truly picking up SARS-CoV-2 antibodies, the USDA told National Geographic in a statement.

Pre-pandemic blood samples from deer also shore up the results: If the tests were just detecting antibodies for other coronaviruses, antibody levels in deer likely would be similar in samples taken both before and during the pandemic. Yet when the researchers tested 239 samples collected before January 2020 from a slightly wider pool that also included deer from New Jersey, they had only one positive test—from 2019. (The USDA says that the single outlier was almost certainly a false positive since it had a very low level of antibodies. Richt says that the USDA’s false-positive conclusion sounds reasonable.)

Bausch says that performing the two types of tests gives him greater confidence in the results. Still, it’s always possible that cross-reactivity is an issue. “There are many coronaviruses that circulate in animals and likely many that we’ve yet to discover,” he says. The most definitive ways to rule out cross-reactivity, he says, would be to isolate a virus on cell culture—perhaps by testing respiratory secretions from deer—but that would require finding a deer when it had an active coronavirus infection.

Exposure to the virus seemed to vary widely by location, the researchers found. Of the four states, Michigan had the largest percentage of deer with SARS-CoV-2 antibodies—67 percent. That was followed by Pennsylvania with 44 percent, New York with 31 percent, and Illinois with 7 percent of samples showing antibodies. The deer with coronavirus antibodies were also concentrated in specific counties, the USDA writes, “with nearly half of the 32 counties sampled showing no evidence” of coronavirus exposure, the study says.

“These results emphasize the need for continued and expanded wildlife surveillance to determine the significance of SARS-CoV-2 in free-ranging deer,” the USDA says. Now, the researchers wrote, it’s also important to look for the virus in predators and scavengers that may eat deer.
 

Lone_Hawk

Resident Spook
I suspect that there is an agenda behind the testing and reporting on this. Though I don't know what it is at this point unless it is to halt deer hunting this year.

First off, the tests that they have been using on humans can't tell the difference between Covid and the Flu. So why would the test used on the deer be any different? Then they went out in left field to test the deer for that in the first place, unless they were testing for a virus that is in the Covid family that deer get, and just decided to declare it C-19 like they are doing everything else. I guess the USDA wanted to get in on the scare game.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Well..if so, it doesn't seem to be hurting them any. There's a bumper crop of twins this year, and the resident deer on this place are all fatter than prime hogs. Plenty of feed in the fields, and my pond/creek is where they all have to come to water. The game cams are full of does and fawns during the day, and nice plump, healthy bucks at night.
 

West

Senior
Found one box of 30-06 165 grain cor-lok for only $17 the other day.

I've always mused that TPTB have it in for hunters, and this is one of many ways their going at it.

Stopping the logging industries and reintroducing wolves and lions plus, plus...

I know the deer herds population in Northern California have been decimated.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
If they really do have COVID-19 (there are a lot of CORONA viruses) then that means there is now a permanent animal vector in the US along with humans.

While dogs and cats (including Big Cats in Zoos) can catch this from people, there have been few signs of people catching it from their pets (it may be possible but it isn't common).

But if it is regularly being passed back and forth among deer, then it means there is another animal host for things to mutate in.

As for tests, there are accurate tests that can identity viruses down to a particular variant but they are expensive and need a lab - so most of the "public testing" is less intensive and consequently less accurate.
 

Samuel Adams

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Well..if so, it doesn't seem to be hurting them any. There's a bumper crop of twins this year, and the resident deer on this place are all fatter than prime hogs. Plenty of feed in the fields, and my pond/creek is where they all have to come to water. The game cams are full of does and fawns during the day, and nice plump, healthy bucks at night.

We must be neighbors.
 

naegling62

Veteran Member
Found one box of 30-06 165 grain cor-lok for only $17 the other day.

I've always mused that TPTB have it in for hunters, and this is one of many ways their going at it.

Stopping the logging industries and reintroducing wolves and lions plus, plus...

I know the deer herds population in Northern California have been decimated.
So you're suggesting a vaccine?
 

ktrapper

Veteran Member
Sounds like more fear mongering. Don’t hunt deer you might catch the Rona. More war on eating meat. Next it will be in beef cattle and hogs. They will want to cull them then. It’s all part of the anti meat narrative. They gotta start it somewhere so they started it in the deer population soon to spread to the domestic livestock as a mutation. Here’s comes the Dept of Ag after your private herds you use to feed your family.
 

naegling62

Veteran Member
Sounds like more fear mongering. Don’t hunt deer you might catch the Rona. More war on eating meat. Next it will be in beef cattle and hogs. They will want to cull them then. It’s all part of the anti meat narrative. They gotta start it somewhere so they started it in the deer population soon to spread to the domestic livestock as a mutation. Here’s comes the Dept of Ag after your private herds you use to feed your family.
Interesting take, you may move to the next level.
 

ktrapper

Veteran Member
They want to take away any means you might have of feeding your family on your own. A awful lot of conservatives hunt just for that reason. To put food on the table. Ramp up the fear, control the food sources, control the people. Spread it into the domestic animals and take full control over the food production and distribution. Eliminate the small homestead disease vectors. Ramp the fear up and the people will be begging for it.

Why else would they be looking for corona virus in wild deer with tests that don’t work right?

And now you don’t need that rifle to hunt with any more.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
This might be a stunt to limit hunting, but it might also be a real story, I will reserve judgment until I see more information; but honestly, it won't surprise me if it is real. Many if not highly mutative viruses can and will jump species to new hosts when they can.

Which is another reason previously no serious attempts have been made to produce vaccines for CORONA viruses like the Common Cold.
 

ktrapper

Veteran Member
This might be a stunt to limit hunting, but it might also be a real story, I will reserve judgment until I see more information; but honestly, it won't surprise me if it is real. Many if not highly mutative viruses can and will jump species to new hosts when they can.

Which is another reason previously no serious attempts have been made to produce vaccines for CORONA viruses like the Common Cold.
I am not saying the story is not real.
All livestock and animals get colds. But, could, what they are seeing, be just a normal cold that deer normally get? I have read many reports saying the Rona tests will pop positive on a common cold. Do they all of a sudden have more sophisticated tests for deer Rona ? We get colds and build antibodies against them for a little while then they fade, or the cold virus mutates and we catch it again right? I am no medical expert here but seems this has been happen since life began here on earth.
 

Wildweasel

F-4 Phantoms Phorever
If they really do have COVID-19 (there are a lot of CORONA viruses) then that means there is now a permanent animal vector in the US along with humans.

While dogs and cats (including Big Cats in Zoos) can catch this from people, there have been few signs of people catching it from their pets (it may be possible but it isn't common).

But if it is regularly being passed back and forth among deer, then it means there is another animal host for things to mutate in.

As for tests, there are accurate tests that can identity viruses down to a particular variant but they are expensive and need a lab - so most of the "public testing" is less intensive and consequently less accurate.

Vampire bats. Gotta be vampire bats spreading the wuhan bat flu all over the world.
 

ktrapper

Veteran Member
I apologize if I immediately go off on the the defensive or offensive and straight to a possible underlying agenda but considering what we have seen this far into the Rona game thus far, my mind immediately went there.

Melodi, I value your opinion greatly when it comes to medical stuff. Noting was meant towards you in a negative way.
 

Thinwater

Firearms Manufacturer
How shocking (Not), an animal virus they mutated to become infectious in humans is present in wild animals.

This is why we will never be rid of it. If a disease only exists in humans we can eliminate it via vaccinations, see polio as an example. If there are animal vectors all of the animals would have to be eliminated to stop it from being reintroduced to humans. cov19 infects dogs, cats, ferrets, deer humans and many other animals.

One of the other nasty covid virus', MERS, is present in camels but does not infect camel handlers. Sometimes it needs to get into another animal that acts as an amplifier, getting virus loads up high enough to then infect humans. This is like the Hendra virus of Australia (Near 90% fatal in humans and horses). That virus lives in bats without harm to them or humans who care for injured bats. The bats can crap on horse food under trees where they roost, the horses catch the virus, become ill, amplify the virus to super high viral loads and pass it to human caretakers, with nearly certain death for the horse and human.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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Is there suddenly a large number of deer just dropping dead in their tracks? Haven't heard a word. That must mean that the deer survive to have antibodies. SURVIVE. That is the thing that people can't seem to wrap their heads around. 99%+ people that catch covid19 survive. It sucks to get sick but come on people. Don't freak out. Don't let them control you with fear.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I apologize if I immediately go off on the the defensive or offensive and straight to a possible underlying agenda but considering what we have seen this far into the Rona game thus far, my mind immediately went there.

Melodi, I value your opinion greatly when it comes to medical stuff. Noting was meant towards you in a negative way.
Don't worry I didn't think it was, and things are getting so strange (and with "stacked agendas") that I had exactly the same question in my mind - is this real or a reason to keep people from hunting deer?

But again (for the other poster) they CAN tell what strain of COVID it is in a proper lab with proper testing - they can get it right down to that particular presentation in that particular person (or deer).

However, that sort of detailed lab examination is expensive and isn't done during "general mass testing." Your probably only going to see it in some hospitals (especially with especially serious cases) or in some research labs.

Is this Deer Varient really COVID-19 or not? I don't know, it all depends on how did the testing was, where, and what they were looking for.

Personally, I hope the disease really hasn't jumped, an agenda would be so much easier to deal with in the long run. Though better deer than my nightmare since this started: pet dogs and cats.

And with cats, we might only be a mutation or two away from it going both ways, instead of just from humans to their kitties (rarely).
 

Granny Franny

Senior Member
How these deer were exposed to the virus in the first place is still unclear. It could have jumped directly from humans, or it could have been passed from livestock or wild animals that came into contact with us, and then onto white-tailed deer.
As such, officials in the US are calling for greater wildlife surveillance, especially among predators and scavengers that regularly interact with deer.
Not to start another conspiracy, but another possibility is that they were seeded with the virus. Also, if I recall, there were cases in dogs identified early on, weren't there?
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Yes, a few dogs and more cats have come down with this but at least so far, they all seem to have caught it from their humans or occasionally other cats (in the case of zoos, it is very hard to tell).

Thankfully so far, it seems to be a mostly one-way disease, suggesting that the current COVID-19 versions out there prefer human subjects but will occasionally jump to cats and dogs if there is an opportunity to do so.

The deer thing is worrying because if the infection rate really is 40 percent (and I'd have to see a lot more information like sample size and locations tested before accepting that number) but if it really is 40 percent then it suggests the disease is going from deer to deer.

That means the deer themselves may have become a host species (like bats) and that variations and mutations can be happening in the deer population as well as in humans.

This simply means there is one more location that more lethal (or infectious) versions of the disease might develop but it also doesn't mean that it will happen, only that it could.

Ebola Reston showed that the disease could become airborne in monkeys but so far there have not been any cases (known) of that sort of transmission between human beings. So just because something exists in animals, even our close cousins, doesn't mean it will jump to humans in a mutated form, but it can.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
By the way, I should mention that I have no medical training whatsoever but I'm married to a man that went to 4 years of medical school and did a residency and then decided for personal reasons not to practice.

Also, I have had a life-long interest in the relationship between diseases (and geological events) and history - especially the 14th-century presentation of the Black Death in Europe. I was also up to my eyeballs at Ground Zero for the HIV epidemic from before the time they understood it was caused by a virus.

When this whole thing started Nightwolf said I actually had a better grasp of epidemiology and the spread of diseases than he did because he didn't specialize in that in medical school. I suspect now after doing hundreds of hours of medical research alone and helping out his researcher Dad, that this is no longer the case.

I do try to run things by him unless it is things we have already discussed or things I already knew something about like animal vectors as potential dangers for humans.

Or why most hunters and gatherers don't get sick all that often (or didn't in the past) because a lot of diseases don't start jumping to humans until people are living with them side by side and interacting with them all the time.
 

marsofold

Veteran Member
I am only 45 miles south of Pennsylvania, which has one of the higher rates of covid deer infection. I frequently see deer walking near my fence borders containing my small herd of sheep. Sheep are very close to deer biologically. I hope that the sheep don't get infected, as I plan on eating some of them in the fall.
 

nomifyle

TB Fanatic
Halting deer hunting this season would be good in the long term for those surviving the aftermath.

:shr:
That is exactly what this BS is all about. Stop people from hunting so they can be independent of the system. Same crap with the african swine flu, stop people from eating home grown or wild pork, all about control. I'll take my chances. I'm so glad I'm not a young person today.

God is good all the time

Judy
 

Pinecone

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I would love to have seen them wrangle the deer and stick that swab up their nose. I'd would have paid to see it! :D



Alright, I assume they did a blood test. Did they harvest the deer just for this purpose? Was it road kill they tested? One does not just catch wild deer and then release them, unless maybe they were "wild" deer that hang around people so much they are almost tame, like at some campgrounds or rehabilitated fawns. Did someone find them dead and a state wildlife employee tested the carcass? Need more information.
 

To-late

Membership Revoked
I concern myself a bit about this since I have numerous deer on my property and I raise sheep.

Startling Discovery Suggests 40% of Wild Deer in The US Have Had The Coronavirus


CARLY CASSELLA
4 AUGUST 2021

The novel coronavirus appears to have somehow jumped from humans to wild deer in some parts of the United States.
In the northeast of the nation, a recent federal survey found neutralizing antibodies for SARS-CoV-2 in 40 percent of all white-tailed deer (Odocoileus virginianus) that were sampled.
In the state of Michigan alone, 67 percent of free-ranging deer showed immune markers for the coronavirus in their bloodwork.
It's the first evidence of widespread exposure to SARS-CoV-2 in wild animals, and while the preprint study still needs to be verified and peer-reviewed, the findings are cause for concern.
While none of the deer showed adverse health effects, the presence of specific antibodies in their blood suggests they recently fought off the virus.
By silently harboring and spreading this pathogen, scientists worry deer populations are allowing SARS-CoV-2 to adapt and evolve into new strains – ones that could possibly re-infect humans years down the road with even greater transmissibility and severity than before.
After all, white-tailed deer in the US cross paths with our species a lot, whether it be from fieldwork, conservation work, feeding, hunting, or human wastewater, providing a perfect pathway for a virus to spread back and forth.
"The geographic distribution of this species encompasses most of North America and these animals are particularly abundant near urban population centers located in the eastern US," the authors write in their paper.
"Moreover, white-tailed deer can form social groups, a contact structure with the potential to support the intraspecies transmission of multiple pathogens."
Ever since the global pandemic first started, scientists have been worried about the novel coronavirus jumping from humans to another species of animal, known as zoonotic spillback.
Last year, for instance, an outbreak among farmed minks led to a massive cull of livestock in Europe and the United States. But unlike captive animals, infections among wild animals are not so easily controlled.
That's why scientists are so concerned by the recent findings. If SARS-CoV-2 can indeed find refuge in the wild, it could make eradication extremely difficult. If the virus adapts among another species and then reinfects humans, our vaccines might be far less effective in the future.
Recently, in Utah, a seemingly healthy wild mink tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, becoming the first free-ranging animal to pick up the virus. As scientists predicted, however, that was probably just the tip of the iceberg. Now, it seems apparent the virus has taken off among wild deer as well.
These free-ranging animals will need to be tested for viral RNA if we want to be absolutely sure that they are providing a reservoir for the novel coronavirus, but the presence of antibodies in their blood suggests they have somehow been exposed.
Previous studies in the laboratory have shown white-tailed deer are highly susceptible to SARS-CoV-2, and that one infected individual of this species can infect another.
This new survey suggests a similar spread could be happening in the wild, although more research is needed to figure out how that's happening.
The team had access to 385 wild white-tailed deer serum samples from January to March 2021, as well as 239 archived samples from 2011 to 2020, which they tested for SARS-CoV-2 antibodies.
Before the onset of the pandemic in 2019, government researchers found no immune markers for the SARS-CoV-2 virus in the bloodwork of wild deer. After the pandemic began, however, these antibodies began to pop up more and more.
In 2020, specific blood proteins for SARS-CoV-2 were found among three deer. Within the first three months of this year, however, nearly half of all 385 blood samples taken from deer in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Illinois, and New York showed the same neutralizing antibodies.
How these deer were exposed to the virus in the first place is still unclear. It could have jumped directly from humans, or it could have been passed from livestock or wild animals that came into contact with us, and then onto white-tailed deer.
As such, officials in the US are calling for greater wildlife surveillance, especially among predators and scavengers that regularly interact with deer.
"If there is a common source of exposure for the deer, then likely the same source can expose other animals," virologist Arinjay Banerjee from the University of Saskatchewan, who wasn't involved with the study, told Nature.
SARS-CoV-2 may be spilling into the wild faster than we can mop it up.
The study was published in bioRxiv.

So, one study say 67% and the other says 40% tested.
I didn’t know deer would show up at testing stations to get tested for covid.
how in the hell do they tell what time the station Is going to be open? Do deers have watches?
I give a big thumbs down on this bull crap of scientific information.
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
Not to start another conspiracy, but another possibility is that they were seeded with the virus. Also, if I recall, there were cases in dogs identified early on, weren't there?
Critters can get bugs just like peoples: airborne, contact, waterborne or another animal's fluids, tissues or waste. It doesn't even have to be the same species. It has on occasion made the bug nastier when it makes the jump to humans. An older swine flu originally out of Asia, was traced to the mixing of duck and pig flu in the wild not a lab. There the two domesticated species are raised in very close proximity.

I'm more way more concerned with Chronic Wasting Disease in deer than corona. Think it's a hit piece to form the justification for cancelling hunting in areas not hit with CWD?
 
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