CRIME 4 Students Found Dead Near University Of Idaho - Male Suspect Arrested In Pennsylvania - Post #566

homecanner1

Veteran Member
Fascinating chan theory on the Doordash

Some say Xana had a standing regular order after bar and party nights from Jack in the Box for Ethan. That he went to the kitchen to get a plate and saw the kitchen patio doors ajar and that was how he knew there was a prowler in the house.

Rumor the burger and fries were untouched, still in wrapper on the floor by the bed. That will confirm or deny at the trial.

This guy says the order was off a $50 gift card, the restaurant in Moscow was closed, its the Pullman one that is 24 hrs

It suggests possible accomplice.

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Did Bryan show up at one of the Chief Fry of Moscow Police Dept. Press Conferences?

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I'm just about done with all of this hoo hah, especially after Bryan's 2011 "rap song' was 'discovered' and uploded to youtube

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mphZtTW9do


and the lyrics, yes its him 'rapping'

readymade for a horror film soundtrack, well whaddaya know. This was made at the same time his sister Amanda was in the horror movie Two Days Back about the knife maniac versus Pacific NW college forestry students.

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If you squint your eyes really hard you might be able to disregard that noxious whiff of Hollywood in your nostril$

smells like money
 
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mzkitty

I give up.
Hmmm...........

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ONLINE ANGER

Idaho suspect Bryan Kohberger seen with scratches across face as outrage erupts over ‘speedy’ six-month hearing wait​

  • Published: 11:47 ET, Jan 12 2023
  • Updated: 12:03 ET, Jan 12 2023
IDAHO suspect Bryan Kohberger has sent web sleuths into a frenzy after appearing in court with visible cuts across his face.

A judge set Kohberger's next court date for June 26 after the accused killer waived his right to a speedy preliminary hearing to allow his legal team time to prepare.

The ruling sent social media users fuming as the public's forced to wait an additional six months for any new details about the grisly murders.

The 28-year-old Washington state Ph. D. student, who was not handcuffed and wearing an orange prison t-shirt, apparently had cuts on the right side of his face.

The scratches were visible on his right cheek and chin area.

Social media sleuths quickly highlighted the marks on Kohberger, saying: "Shaving knicks or did someone beat the s***t out of him?"

"Will we find out how and why he had cuts and bruises on his face while in court today?" asked another Twitter user.

A third person asked: "what’s up with the cuts/scratches on #BryanChristopherKohberger #BryanKohberger’s face❓interesting."

Another user pointed out that the cuts were not on the suspect's face during his court appearance last week, "WTFFFF has happened to #BryanKohberger face?! it’s scratched / cut to hell?! that wasn’t there last week???."

Kohberger was arrested on December 30 at his parent's Pennsylvania home and charged with the murders of friends Madison Mogen, Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin.

 

SmithJ

Veteran Member
Also,

In my opinion, innocent people don't waive their right to a speedy trial when faced with a lengthy stay with no bond. He's basically agreeing to a year/year and a half in jail before even a conviction.

So he's focusing on beating the death penalty, not getting acquitted.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Also,

In my opinion, innocent people don't waive their right to a speedy trial when faced with a lengthy stay with no bond. He's basically agreeing to a year/year and a half in jail before even a conviction.

So he's focusing on beating the death penalty, not getting acquitted.
Agreed. And quite honestly, I'm sick to death of the whole obsession with this case, and the ridiculous entitlement attitude of the internet idiots who think their sick fascination with it somehow entitles them to every detail, right frickin' NOW!

Guess what? You "internet sleuths" don't HAVE ANY "rights" here! In fact, neither do the loved ones of the victims, which is a lot more disturbing. At this point, Mr Kohberger's rights are the only ones that matter... and if any of us were ever charged with a serious crime, we wouldn't want it any other way.

If he is guilty, and I suspect he is, IF the info regarding DNA, etc is correct, everyone needs to shut the hell up and let the system work. The last thing we'd need is for a mistrial or for publicity to somehow influence the jury and get him off.

The publicity may have helped with identifying the perp (although I believe the cops were doing a good job... just holding their cards close to their vest, as they must), but now it's time to shut the court of public opinion the hell up, and let the justice system work.

Summerthyme
 

wait-n-see

Veteran Member
Very sad to see this happening ...... bullying is so wide spread and greatly encouraged on social media. Those 2 poor girls are paying so much right now, and will be paying for the rest of their lives, for something that was not even their fault.

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TikTokers Are Vilifying The Idaho Stabbing Victims’ Roommate For Not Getting Help Immediately After Seeing The Suspect, But Others Are Pointing Out She Deserves Empathy

Drusilla Moorhouse
Tue, January 10, 2023 at 8:12 AM CST

Last week, police in Moscow, Idaho, shared an 18-page affidavit outlining how their investigation led them to believe a 28-year-old man was responsible for the killings of four college students.

In addition to surveillance footage of Bryan Kohberger’s car and cellphone records placing him at the scene on Nov. 13, police revealed a stunning detail: A surviving roommate of the victims came face-to-face with the alleged killer. There is no evidence that he saw her — only that the man, dressed in black with a mask covering his mouth and nose, walked past her while she stood in a "frozen shock phase.” He was close enough that she could see his “bushy eyebrows” and describe his build. She saw him walk toward the home’s back sliding glass door and then locked herself in her room. A latent shoe print discovered later by police confirmed her account. Police determined that the killer had left the house by 4:25 a.m. — but a 911 call summoning police to the house was not placed until noon.

This seven-and-a-half-hour gap and other details provided by the roommate — that she’d been awakened and had opened her door three times to check on noises she’d heard, including her roommate crying — are undeniably strange. People on social media pounced. Hundreds, if not thousands, of TikTokers, YouTubers, redditors, and Facebook and Twitter users responded with shocking vitriol, calling her behavior “suspicious” and accusing her of somehow being complicit in her roommates’ deaths because she did not immediately check on them or call for help.

It was just the latest round of hate that she and another surviving roommate have experienced. Before Kohberger’s arrest, while no suspect had been publicly identified, the roommates had been subjected to repeated harassment and doxxing by people who said they killed their friends. Moscow police said they had been cleared of suspicion — then repeated that message multiple times as the harassment continued.

The wave of criticism based on the newly released affidavit has been compounded by inaccurate claims that the roommate, identified as DM, ignored screams (not mentioned in the affidavit) or was posting on social media during the time of the killings. This was also debunked by at least one TikToker who pointed out that the pictures she posted at 12:33 a.m. Pacific Time had a 3:33 a.m. timestamp for people in Eastern Time — still earlier than the time of the killings.

It also hasn’t helped that “enhanced” audio purporting to be from a neighbor’s security camera is spreading like wildfire on social media platforms. It’s a terrifying listen — but it is fake. It’s based on original audio of a domestic violence incident, which a user posted as an example of what an outside camera can pick up.


But others are pushing back on the cruel comments, faulty information, and Monday-morning quarterbacking. “Imagine being more scrutinous and angry at a college girl who survived a psychopath in her home killing her friends and roommates, than the actual psychopath who killed her friends and roommates,” one person tweeted.


Others have offered potential explanations for the roommate’s inaction, saying that although she was shocked at first, she likely rationalized what she heard and saw because it was common for visitors to be in their “party house.” “People STILL talking about why DM didn’t call the police on the Idaho murder,” one person said on Twitter. “Why would she? She saw a guy she didn’t know leaving a shared house. No screams. She heard a girl crying but one of the housemates had her bf there. Who calls the police on a crying roommate?”


Experts told NBC News that her “frozen shock phase” could have been a result of acute trauma, and she might not have called police because she disassociated or experienced a type of paralysis that lasted for hours. A Reddit post with hundreds of upvotes and supportive comments acknowledges people’s confusion about her actions, but regardless of what we know about her and her experience that night — which isn’t much — she deserves empathy. “We don't have a baseline from which to judge her reactions,” they said.

On TikTok, a woman who describes herself as a licensed clinical psychologist begged people to be more sensitive and withhold judgment, adding the roommate likely experienced different degrees of the “fight, flight, freeze, or fawn” response. Her post has more than 98,000 likes.

Even the family of one of the victims defended the roommate.

An attorney representing Kaylee Goncalves's family told Fox News on Saturday that the roommate was likely “scared to death" and "is still a victim in this case."

"And the fact that she was able to give some additional identification I think is beneficial in this case,” he said. “She was able to give kind of type and build and what [the suspect] looked like a little bit — bushy eyebrows, things along those lines."

The next day, Alivea Goncalves, Kaylee’s sister, told NewsNation that the roommate “is really young, and she was probably really, really scared. And until we have any more information, I think everyone should stop passing judgments because you don't know what you would do in that situation.”
 

diamonds

Administrator
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Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger discussed key details of the case in Facebook group: online sleuths​


Online sleuths are speculating about whether accused Idaho killer Bryan Kohberger used an alias to discuss the case in social media discussion groups.

A Facebook user with the name Pappa Rodger made numerous comments in a group about the savage murders of four University of Idaho students, even noting key details of the crime.

Jennifer Coffindaffer, a former FBI agent, said she found one of the comments particularly interesting, tweeting a November screenshot of one of the Pappa Rodger’s posts which read, “Of the evidence released, the murder weapon has been consistent as a large fixed blade knife. This leads me to believe they found the sheath.”
Authorities did find a knife sheath at the murder scene, but its existence was not made public until after Kohberger’s arrest last week.
When a Twitter user commented that “I just find it hard to believe he would leave a digital trail that incriminating” Coffindaffer responded, “He drove his own car, carried his phone, and didn’t Clip in his sheath tight enough, so I do believe he could leave a digital trail. He was a hot mess. Intelligence w/no common sense equals a criminal bound to be caught.”
An administrator of the University of Idaho Murders Facebook discussion group wrote that Pappa Rodger “argued incessantly with people and said some really creepy stuff.”

Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger discussed key details of the case in Facebook group: online sleuths

The user known a Pappa Rodger eerily guessed details of the crime and the crime scene.James Keivom for NY Post






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— Jennifer Coffindaffer (@CoffindafferFBI)

Here’s the latest coverage on the brutal killings of four college friends:


Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger discussed key details of the case in Facebook group: online sleuths

Kohberger is accused of killing four University of Idaho students.kayeleegoncalves/Instagram


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jward

passin' thru
Some uncertainty about all the neurological conditions he may or may not have. They could have as much impact as any thing in real changes in his demeanor.

Lots of semi- credible reports of him "infiltrating" the various groups. One recounting I found resonating was a video made explaining that Kaylee was found in bed with Mogan because she'd heard the assault on her friend, made her way in there, was subdued, stabbed, and pushed off onto the bed her friend was laying on.

Nothing to substantiate it might have been him or undercover folk putting out the true scenario, though.

Anyway. No surprise he was in the groups- it's what they do, and although his psychopathology is taking some unexpected turns, you can be confident that he, and those like him, feed on people getting spun up, and all these groups and individuals going into feeding frenzies over it are a problem. As I've said numerous times, but bears repeating.
 

jward

passin' thru
Very sad to see this happening ...... bullying is so wide spread and greatly encouraged on social media. Those 2 poor girls are paying so much right now, and will be paying for the rest of their lives, for something that was not even their fault.
Think that's shameful then you'll not want to read this thread. The girls were harshly and erronously judged for things that there is absolutely nothing in the facts on the ground to substantiate.
 

Southside

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I usually don't pile on till I have some facts.
And they are quite hard to come by, so far. I see no reason to beat up on people that probably don't deserve it.
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
Agreed. And quite honestly, I'm sick to death of the whole obsession with this case, and the ridiculous entitlement attitude of the internet idiots who think their sick fascination with it somehow entitles them to every detail, right frickin' NOW!

Guess what? You "internet sleuths" don't HAVE ANY "rights" here! In fact, neither do the loved ones of the victims, which is a lot more disturbing. At this point, Mr Kohberger's rights are the only ones that matter... and if any of us were ever charged with a serious crime, we wouldn't want it any other way.

If he is guilty, and I suspect he is, IF the info regarding DNA, etc is correct, everyone needs to shut the hell up and let the system work. The last thing we'd need is for a mistrial or for publicity to somehow influence the jury and get him off.

The publicity may have helped with identifying the perp (although I believe the cops were doing a good job... just holding their cards close to their vest, as they must), but now it's time to shut the court of public opinion the hell up, and let the justice system work.

Summerthyme
Trust me. The justice system doesn't work like it's supposed to.
 

Babs

Veteran Member
I've watched a couple of videos about this case on Youtube, now my entire feed is full of distasteful "true crime" videos. I'm not even seeing the channels I subscribe to. It's a circus.

I wonder if it even occurs to any of them, that in the eyes of the law, this man is innocent. Right now, this man is innocent. What if he truly is innocent? I could think of a couple of scenarios where he could be. Perhaps someone stole his Kbar, and borrowed his car. Seems far fetched, but it's possible. In any case, if he truly were innocent, his life is ruined. These online "sleuths" have dug up so much on him, that he doesn't stand a chance of fitting into society now.

Let me be clear, I do believe that he did it....but how many times has the online circus ruined people's lives? It's disgusting.

What's even more disgusting is what they are doing to Dylan. That girl likely did not even know that there had been murders in her house that night. All this speculation makes me sick.
 

homecanner1

Veteran Member
The kids on youtube site asking, what did he do to his hands, so red after his initial arrest. Scalded?

Yeah I'd handle this live wire with kid gloves too...

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the chans conclude its scripted and I have to agree, the Dateline NBC show is the first of much more till we will all be as sick of his name as we are of the entire Manson Family. Do you think everyone in Moscow watched? The local jury pool is going to be hardpressed to find impartials now that tv producers have come knocking, I didn't bother tuning in after the hatchet job they did on Wilson's homeschool curriculum church previously.

Happy Nov 13th 2022 B-day Charlie, I killed 4 of the clones in your memory.

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Kohberger Jail Tapes: the Moscow Sessions, featuring a special guest appearance of Bryan as his MK alter
"Pappa Rodger".

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Meanwhile other folks are asking seriously about the ex military shot at the Pullman apt. complex and who may have helped Bryan purchase his knife.

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A whole lot of people have a payday promised to them riding on this now with many hand$ in the pie. The explosion of youtube sleuth channels may be the most obnoxious result but they're the least of the monetizing that'll be going on.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
From what I read, the trial won't start until summer, and I'm sure that there will be a change of venue.

Everybody in Moscow knows all about this. But then on the other hand people in other venues do too.

I don't know how his lawyer stands looking at him.
 

firefly2021

Member
The kids on youtube site asking, what did he do to his hands, so red after his initial arrest. Scalded?

Yeah I'd handle this live wire with kid gloves too...

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the chans conclude its scripted and I have to agree, the Dateline NBC show is the first of much more till we will all be as sick of his name as we are of the entire Manson Family. Do you think everyone in Moscow watched? The local jury pool is going to be hardpressed to find impartials now that tv producers have come knocking, I didn't bother tuning in after the hatchet job they did on Wilson's homeschool curriculum church previously.

Happy Nov 13th 2022 B-day Charlie, I killed 4 of the clones in your memory.

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Kohberger Jail Tapes: the Moscow Sessions, featuring a special guest appearance of Bryan as his MK alter
"Pappa Rodger".

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Meanwhile other folks are asking seriously about the ex military shot at the Pullman apt. complex and who may have helped Bryan purchase his knife.

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A whole lot of people have a payday promised to them riding on this now with many hand$ in the pie. The explosion of youtube sleuth channels may be the most obnoxious result but they're the least of the monetizing that'll be going on.
You don't need help buying a k-bar....

The defaming and slandering of people continues.
 

homecanner1

Veteran Member
BK was surveying for brands and models, no idea what was needed to slice/hack bone & sinew and sought expert advice. Brent had the everlasting misfortune of living in Pullman while this born in Brooklyn "Teaching Assistant" wanted to plot to become some criminal mastermind for his Doctoral thesis. This whole circus reeks top to bottom. They may not be able to move the venue to Couer d'Alene either. Is Stanley Mortensen a cousin of Dylan's enormous extended Mormon tribe?

Stanley Mortensen is the county prosecutor of Couer d'Alene

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The images above are screenshots from 4chan as we cannot link here. You can make yourself aware of what they are discussing over there or remain out of the loop. Most of what is posted there cannot be brought here in the first place.

Do I think Brent was executed and thus will not be testifying? I could be convinced quite easily. That area is sitting on a keg of dynamite of liberal cesspool corruption. Brent was a casualty as surely as the houseful of coeds. But also Hudson and Hannah too. Dylan and Bethany's lives are also scorched as a result. There are no winners in this, even a circus trial is not going to bring closure. But you can bet there is already talk of who will be cast as Kaylee and Maddie in the movie.

Because it has potential for over the top salacious 'selfie culture', hotties on spring break and playing up the homo erotic undercurrents at the frats. Like 'HBO high school Euphoria goes to College". Hollywood can't seem to resist. But I can.
 
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Bubble Head

Has No Life - Lives on TB
No help needed in purchasing a Ka-Bar however he may have needed pointers on the proper use. The picture of Brent Lee Kopaka is his funeral picture. He died December 15, 2022 at 36 years of age. Just over a month after the murders. Have no idea why BK would have his picture. It begs an answer and the cause and manor of death.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
the chans conclude its scripted and I have to agree, the Dateline NBC show is the first of much more till we will all be as sick of his name as we are of the entire Manson Family. Do you think everyone in Moscow watched? The local jury pool is going to be hardpressed to find impartials now that tv producers have come knocking, I didn't bother tuning in after the hatchet job they did on Wilson's homeschool curriculum church previously.

Well if it's scripted you have to ask what's really going on... the biden cartel and their crimes for $500 Alex.
 

summerthyme

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So he is charged with this crime and no motive as to why he did it
That's very common. First, it's generally personal in some way to the killer. Unless they are motivated to plead quilty AND cooperate with the cops, it's all too common to never know "why"... even in b killer knows themselves.

And you don't need motive forva conviction.

Summerthyme
 

homecanner1

Veteran Member
Brent survived 2 IED events over in Iraq and was pursuing an FBI clearance for work on US Canadian Border Patrol if you can believe reports from classmates/mil buddies.

It seems a damn shame they slaughtered this young war veteran. Perhaps he only had email conversation with Kohberger or responded to his creepy "survey". Maybe he went panic mode thinking cops were coming to question him about Bryan and the murder weapon.

He is now very much dead probably for no reason, kind of like Gary Hinman was collateral damage to the entire Manson miasma. I really don't want to see anymore kids perish as a result of this madhouse run amok. The two Jacks, Adam, Bethany and esp. Dylan will have to look over their shoulders the rest of their lives. They all need to transfer to a new college. Toxic campus on anyone's resume now.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
No help needed in purchasing a Ka-Bar however he may have needed pointers on the proper use. The picture of Brent Lee Kopaka is his funeral picture. He died December 15, 2022 at 36 years of age. Just over a month after the murders. Have no idea why BK would have his picture. It begs an answer and the cause and manor of death.

Obit, not clear to me as to cause of death.

*snip*

It is with great sadness that our beloved son, Brent Lee Kopacka, went to heaven Thursday, Dec. 15, 2022, as a result of a traumatic brain injury sustained in combat in Afghanistan, which led to a 16-year ongoing battle with severe PTSD. Brent was born Oct. 4, 1986.

 

homecanner1

Veteran Member
If you can find the truth at the bottom of this viper pit, good luck. Even the players are getting played this time.


I was warned by much wiser people that this is an old 60's coven mess and I fully believe them. If vendettas are playing out against grandkids, I would believe that too. Greed does hideous things to people, esp. if they think young females are up for grabs as brood sows or potential to merchandize them on Only Fan$. I will not be surprised if Dylan is silenced or compromised to testify in some way and that Kohberger ends up walking. It has bad mojo written all over it. Rev. Wilson is correct, its a battle for the soul of this community. Good may not prevail there.
 

homecanner1

Veteran Member
Its lit over there today regarding Brent, lots of folk demanding not to let this slide regarding his takedown. Asking; the 911 supposedly stated Brent was threatening his roomies in Pullman, chans are asking, did he even have roomies? And they are speculating further that it was Kohberger who made the 911 call and had Brent "SWATted' intentionally! This could be something as innocent as selling an old knife on craigslist that ended up in a slaughterhouse. Cold hearted, despicable.

You see why this turns my stomach, every bit of this and probable betrayal of a combat vet on top of all the other aspects?

Brent's family may join Hudson's kin in a 'wrongful death' if this unravels any further.

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