EBOLA 2nd Confirmed Ebola Case In US (Dallas #2) CDC Confirms 10/12

Lilbitsnana

On TB every waking moment
They are infiltrating infected unsubs through the border.

While it is possible, I highly doubt it. (the infected part)

If they are doing it, they are doing it on their own, because al-Baghdadi had shot the suggestion down a few weeks ago. (there is always the possibility he changed his mind, but his reasoning was sane...he/they didn't have the ability to control it.)
 

MtnGal

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I thought it had been reported when she went in, he was put in too. could be wrong, but I thought he was already in the hospital being monitored.

Yes, he was admitted with her, that's what the Dallas report said yesterday morning.

ETA: The report never said boyfriend, it said someone close to her, just assumed it was boyfriend, could have been a roommate for all we know.
 
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Wise Owl

Deceased
Nurse boyfriend in hospital with ebola symptoms.


http://gotnews.com/ebola-nurse-boyfr...tcom+(Got+News


An email sent out to the Alcon staff by its CEO reportedly said that the ebola nurse’s boyfriend was admitted into hospital with “Ebola-like symptoms.”

Gotnews.com has received word from two different Alcon employees, both of whom asked not to be identified.

Alcon’s U.S. headquarters are in Fort Worth, Texas. It is an opthomological pharmaceutical company.

Requests for comment from Alcon were not returned.
 

raven

TB Fanatic
I dunno.
Drudge Headline is : MARRIAGE RATES HIT ALL-TIME LOW in big bold letters
I don't know how this could be a HEADLINE when the CDC is saying "If this is not under control in 60 days it'll be over.
I think it is like elevator music - a placeholder - and the news will be very interesting in the morning
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
Tweeter is posting a lot about no protocol in place and the laundry was just piling up.

Cnn is reporting about this also.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/14/healt...n=Feed:+rss/cnn_topstories+(RSS:+Top+Stories)

Nurses at Texas hospital: 'There were no protocols' about Ebola
By Catherine E. Shoichet, CNN
updated 10:36 PM EDT, Tue October 14, 2014

(CNN) -- A union made troubling allegations Tuesday about the Texas hospital where a nurse contracted Ebola, claiming "guidelines were constantly changing" and "there were no protocols" about how to deal with the deadly virus."

"The protocols that should have been in place in Dallas were not in place, and that those protocols are not in place anywhere in the United States as far as we can tell," National Nurses United Executive Director RoseAnn DeMoro said. "We're deeply alarmed."

CNN Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta said the claims, if true, are "startling." Some of them, he said, could be "important when it comes to possible other infections."

Officials from National Nurses United declined to specify how many nurses they had spoken with at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas. They said they would not identify the nurses or elaborate on how the nurses learned of the details in their allegations in order to protect them from possible retaliation. The nurses at the hospital are not members of a union, officials said.

Here's a look at some of the allegations the nurses made, according to the union:

Thomas Eric Duncan wasn't immediately isolated.

On the day that Thomas Eric Duncan was admitted to the hospital with possible Ebola symptoms, he was "left for several hours, not in isolation, in an area where other patients were present," union co-president Deborah Burger said.

Up to seven other patients were present in that area, the nurses said, according to the union.

A nursing supervisor faced resistance from hospital authorities when the supervisor demanded that Duncan be moved to an isolation unit, the nurses said, according to the union.

At first, protective gear nurses were wearing while treating Duncan left their necks exposed.

After expressing concerns that their necks were exposed even as they wore protective gear, the nurses were told to wrap their necks with medical tape, the union says.

"They were told to use medical tape and had to use four to five pieces of medical tape wound around their neck. The nurses have expressed a lot of concern about how difficult it is to remove the tape from their neck," Burger said.

At one point during Duncan's care, hazardous waste piled up.

"There was no one to pick up hazardous waste as it piled to the ceiling," Burger said. "They did not have access to proper supplies."

Nurses got no "hands-on" training about using protective gear.

"There was no mandate for nurses to attend training," Burger said, though they did receive an e-mail about a hospital seminar on Ebola.

"This was treated like hundreds of other seminars that were routinely offered to staff," she said.

The nurses "feel unsupported, unprepared, lied to and deserted."

So why did the group of nurses -- the union wouldn't say how many -- contact the nursing union, which they don't belong to?

According to DeMoro, the nurses were upset after authorities appeared to blame nurse Nina Pham, who has contracted Ebola, for not following protocols.

"This nurse was being blamed for not following protocols that did not exist. ... The nurses in that hospital were very angry, and they decided to contact us," DeMoro said.

And they're worried conditions at the hospital "may lead to infection of other nurses and patients," Burger said.

A hospital spokesman did not respond to the specific allegations, but said patient and employee safety is the hospital's top priority.

"We take compliance very seriously. We have numerous measures in place to provide a safe working environment, including mandatory annual training and a 24-7 hotline and other mechanisms that allow for anonymous reporting," hospital spokesman Wendell Watson said. "Our nursing staff is committed to providing quality, compassionate care, as we have always known, and as the world has seen firsthand in recent days. We will continue to review and respond to any concerns raised by our nurses and all employees."

The Dallas mayor declined to comment on the accusations against the hospital.

"I don't comment on anonymous allegations," Mike Rawlings said.

CNN's Dave Alsup contributed to this report.
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
More and more I get the feeling that we are all screwed. Sure hope I'm wrong.

No wonder that MMC in Portland, Maine said they were exceeding the CDC's guidelines and going with the WHO's guidelines. They DO have a negative pressure area and are using full level 4 protection for their medical folk. At least someone is doing it right.

It's no wonder that nurse was infected. There will probably be more.

Tape around their necks??????????????????
 

Beach

Veteran Member
I am so hoping we don't hear about any patients being infected by the HCWs. Just read elsewhere that this second case reported fever yesterday and they were immediately isolated. That means they were at the hospital at the time.
 

rummer

Veteran Member
We are in so much trouble......


Texas health officials say second healthcare worker at Dallas hospital tests positive for Ebola

Published October 15, 2014FoxNews.com
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A second healthcare worker at the Dallas hospital where Ebola patient Thomas Duncan was treated last week has tested positive for the virus, Texas health officials say.

The Texas Department of State Health Services confirmed that the worker had tested positive in a statement early Wednesday. It did not specify what position the worker held at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, though officials did say that the person was among those who provided care for Duncan, who died from the virus Oct. 8.

The statement said that the worker had reported a fever Tuesday and had been placed in isolation. Preliminary Ebola tests were run at the state public health lab in Austin and results came back at approximately midnight Wednesday. A separate test will be done at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.

On Sunday, officials confirmed that 26-year-old nurse Nina Pham had tested positive for the virus. More than 70 people who may have had contact with Duncan at the hospital were being monitored.

News of the latest positive test comes one day after the largest U.S. nurses' union charged that Duncan' caregivers worked for days without proper protective gear and faced constantly changing protocols.

A statement from National Nurses United also says Thomas Eric Duncan was left in an open area of an emergency room for hours.

A spokesman for the group says nurses were forced to use medical tape to secure openings in their flimsy garments. It's said that the patient had explosive diarrhea and projectile vomiting.

In a conference call with reporters executive director RoseAnn DeMoro says the allegations are based on revelations from "a few" nurses and that the claims were vetted.

The nurses also said that Duncan's lab samples were allowed to travel through the hospital's pneumatic tubes, opening the possibility of contaminating the specimen delivery system. The nurses also alleged that hazardous waste was allowed to pile up to the ceiling.

A hospital spokesman for told the Associated Press that the facility had not received similar complaints.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/...d-healthcare-worker-at-dallas-hospital-tests/
 
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psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
AND THRE, you have it in black and white.

THOSE are the "mysterious breach" we keep hearing, only it's what the HOSPITAL did, NOT those poor nurses who are now infected-and prob many more to follow.

Those officials down there should start packing their bags right now.
 

sassy

Veteran Member
Game changer!!


I have to admit that I'm very surprised that this has been admitted to. I thought for sure that additional positives would be suppressed. Wondering now what the status is of the Duncan family and others. If a health care worker in full gear has been infected I find it hard to believe that those that lived in the same apartment are all negative.

We are being told by the STATE who did the testing. That's the reason we are being told the truth in these cases.
 

rummer

Veteran Member
I just want to scream over this statement......when are they going to tell the truth about when a person may be infectious.

2nd health care worker tests positive for Ebola at Dallas hospital

By Holly Yan, CNN
updated 5:43 AM EDT, Wed October 15, 2014

(CNN) -- A second health care worker at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital who cared for Thomas Eric Duncan has tested positive for Ebola, the state's health department said Wednesday.
The worker reported a fever Tuesday and was immediately isolated, health department spokeswoman Carrie Williams said.
The preliminary Ebola test was done late Tuesday at the state public health laboratory in Austin, and the results came back around midnight. A second test will be conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.
Mayor: 'Concerned' about Ebola spreading Understanding Ebola protocols Director: Nurse's infection 'unacceptable'
"Health officials have interviewed the latest patient to quickly identify any contacts or potential exposures, and those people will be monitored," the health department said. "The type of monitoring depends on the nature of their interactions and the potential they were exposed to the virus."
But the pool of contacts could be small, since Ebola can only be transmitted when an infected person shows symptoms.
Less than a day passed between the onset of the worker's symptoms and isolation at the hospital.
The latest infection marks the second-ever transmission of Ebola in the United States. Both stemmed from Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital.
Late last week, nurse Tina Pham tested positive for Ebola. She also took care of Duncan, the first person to be diagnosed with Ebola in the United States. Duncan died last week.
On Tuesday, Pham said she was doing well.
"I am blessed by the support of family and friends, and am blessed to be cared for by the best team of doctors and nurses in the world," she said.
Also Tuesday, a union made troubling allegations about the hospital, claiming "guidelines were constantly changing" and "there were no protocols" about how to deal with the deadly virus."
"The protocols that should have been in place in Dallas were not in place, and that those protocols are not in place anywhere in the United States as far as we can tell," National Nurses United Executive Director RoseAnn DeMoro said. "We're deeply alarmed."

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/15/health...html?hpt=hp_t1
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
We are being told by the STATE who did the testing. That's the reason we are being told the truth in these cases.
Not only that, in a situation like this they can only put out fires for so long even if they wanted to; sure "men in black" could grab the original family, a few nurses etc and have them "go away;" but too many people may have already been exposed and infected. I am not saying this is the case, I am saying "may" but it is highly likely; I think that is one reason for the terror on the doctor's face at that CDC conference because he KNEW that while it might just be one person it could be 70 to 100 getting sick in the next couple of weeks from this one situation directly; not to mention their families etc.

This isn't a tiny town in the mountains with a rural hospital in some novel, this is Dallas Texas and it is highly unlikely that the book will end with "friendly nuke" eliminating the problem and the public told about a horrific meteor strike that destroys the town. That's good B movie fiction, but this is real life; that said the entire area could be quarantined off as a plague zone though I would be surprised if that happened either.

When the actually close Dallas Fort-Worth Airport, the time to leave the area will probably be too late...
 

bassgirl

Veteran Member
We are in so much trouble......


Texas health officials say second healthcare worker at Dallas hospital tests positive for Ebola

Published October 15, 2014FoxNews.com
Facebook94 Twitter109 Email Print
A second healthcare worker at the Dallas hospital where Ebola patient Thomas Duncan was treated last week has tested positive for the virus, Texas health officials say.

The Texas Department of State Health Services confirmed that the worker had tested positive in a statement early Wednesday. It did not specify what position the worker held at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, though officials did say that the person was among those who provided care for Duncan, who died from the virus Oct. 8.

The statement said that the worker had reported a fever Tuesday and had been placed in isolation. Preliminary Ebola tests were run at the state public health lab in Austin and results came back at approximately midnight Wednesday. A separate test will be done at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.

On Sunday, officials confirmed that 26-year-old nurse Nina Pham had tested positive for the virus. More than 70 people who may have had contact with Duncan at the hospital were being monitored.

News of the latest positive test comes one day after the largest U.S. nurses' union charged that Duncan' caregivers worked for days without proper protective gear and faced constantly changing protocols.

A statement from National Nurses United also says Thomas Eric Duncan was left in an open area of an emergency room for hours.

A spokesman for the group says nurses were forced to use medical tape to secure openings in their flimsy garments. It's said that the patient had explosive diarrhea and projectile vomiting.

In a conference call with reporters executive director RoseAnn DeMoro says the allegations are based on revelations from "a few" nurses and that the claims were vetted.

The nurses also said that Duncan's lab samples were allowed to travel through the hospital's pneumatic tubes, opening the possibility of contaminating the specimen delivery system. The nurses also alleged that hazardous waste was allowed to pile up to the ceiling.

A hospital spokesman for told the Associated Press that the facility had not received similar complaints.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/...d-healthcare-worker-at-dallas-hospital-tests/

Holy crap!!! Tape on their necks? Samples in the pneumatics system? We are soooooo not prepared for this.

The thing is we know all of this stuff about what's going on because we are here. There are probably a few other forums out there that know what we do. But the rest of the population has no clue what's going on until now. Hospitals included.

Wow...just wow.
 

pama

Contributing Member
Holy crap!!! Tape on their necks? Samples in the pneumatics system? We are soooooo not prepared for this.

The thing is we know all of this stuff about what's going on because we are here. There are probably a few other forums out there that know what we do. But the rest of the population has no clue what's going on until now. Hospitals included.

Wow...just wow.

This is CRAZY!
 

Green Co.

Administrator
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Folks, please keep this thread on Nina Pham, patient #2. It gets too confusing with info scattered.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Meanwhile, people are passing this around on facebook - which is disturbing as I'm seeing people commenting "see it is just like HIV, we are safe.."
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CRodgers

אני תומך
3rd Ebola patient flew on Frontier Airlines flight 1143 just 1 day before she reported symptoms.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Yep just in on Drudge this may need its on thread - I keep thinking "what next?" I guess we know find out just how contagious it is on airplanes...

Ebola Patient Traveled By Air Day Before Symptoms Surfaced
October 15, 2014 10:22 AM
From Our CBS Music Web Sites

Ebola Patient Traveled By Air Day Before Symptoms Surfaced

DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) – The CDC has announced that the second healthcare worker diagnosed with Ebola traveled by air Oct. 13, the day before she first reported symptoms.

The CDC is now reaching out to all passengers who flew on Frontier Airlines flight 1143 Cleveland to Dallas/Fort Worth. The flight landed at 8:16 p.m. CT.

The CDC is asking all 132 passengers on the flight to call 1 800-CDC INFO (1 800 232-4636). Public health professionals will begin interviewing passengers about the flight after 1 p.m. ET.

Authorities say that the healthcare worker did not exhibit symptoms while on the flight, according to crew members. However, the precaution is needed due to the proximity in time between the flight and the first reported symptoms.

Frontier Airlines is working closely with the CDC to identify and notify all passengers on the flight.

Complete Coverage Of Ebola In North Texas

The diagnosis was announced by the Texas Department of State Health Services early Wednesday morning. CBS 11 has confirmed that the patient is 26-year-old Amber Joy Vinson of Dallas.

Vinson, who is the second worker at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas to be diagnosed, provided health care to Thomas Duncan.

Duncan, the first person to be diagnosed with Ebola in the United States, died last week.

Nina Pham was diagnosed with the virus over the weekend and remains isolated in good condition.

“This is a developing story… Refresh this page for more details.”

(©2014 CBS Local Media, a division of CBS Radio Inc. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.)
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/10/15/ebola-patient-traveled-day-before-diagnosis/
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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And this is the "world's best medical system" that everyone keeps insisting will keep Ebola from getting anywhere in the US? God help us all!

Summerthyme
 

CRodgers

אני תומך
Well if we see anyone from Dallas or Cleveland that was on that flight getting sick, we will have our answer whether this is airborne or not.
 

MtnGal

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Then there are all the people she was in contact with in Cleveland. Hope it wasn't a big family wedding where everyone was kissing everyone
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Rush Limbaugh is starting right now, about Ebola and the incompetence being displayed from this administration....he's gonna be on a roll just like yesterday. Said his program is full today that he doesn't know if he'll get it all in. I only mention it due to the show yesterday and how he had that Dr call in....
 

AnniePutin

Veteran Member
Obama is postponing a couple of fundraisers for tonight to attend a meeting on Ebola. I thought that was really big of him...
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
And this is the "world's best medical system" that everyone keeps insisting will keep Ebola from getting anywhere in the US? God help us all!

Summerthyme
Most people on this side of the water who live in the Northern European countries have not considered it the best for a long time now; yes the best in some things like emergency medicine for accidents (US is much better if you are in a car wreck or stabbed) and very good at some extremely cutting edge research type procedures (life saving operations that the occasional European child may be even sent to the US for and/or the rich may pay for themselves).

However, it is simply impossible to award "the best medical care" sticker to a set up where huge numbers of people will avoid going to the doctor or the hospital for as long as possible out of worry (or sheer terror) of the costs involved. The "new" system does not really have seem to have solved that problem with massive co-pays allowed and up-front costs so high that many are not covered (not yet anyway).

Now if this is my old roommate sitting with a broken leg, crying on the sofa with a bottle of wine to dull the pain and hoping it "gets better" rather than going to the ER because she has no insurance and no income (but wasn't on any sort of welfare either) that only causes severe pain to the person who is injured.

But if you are a person who has been infected with a potentially spreadable, epidemic disease; it may mean you wait and you continue to go to work at your low-paid job with no sick leave, until you collapse on the street or at home and the public or your spouse calls 911.

In health care systems where people can see a doctor for a relatively low cost (or free at point of access aka paid for by taxes) they will go when they feel bad enough to feel like a doctor can help them; if they know a hospital bill isn't going to bankrupt them and have them loose what little they have; they are not in such terror of one ER trip.

Now not all EU countries are sorted this way, Ireland is having problems because the costs of doctor's visits has gone so high that many sick people avoid going until they end up in the hospital but at least there is a public hospital system there if they need it.

But I've lived in Sweden and briefly in the UK and I've really seen the difference it makes in terms of accessing medicine quickly; I am not saying a public health care system would have prevented this from happening, but I am saying that without feeling like they can go to a doctor if they really feel sick (for fear of costs) that is simply not the BEST system. In addition, it leaves the US very open to something like this happening, though I am not sure it would have stopped this particular case anyway. In the UK or Texas, Mr. Duncan would probably have gone to the ER and gotten antibiotics and been sent home.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
If confirmed, I may suddenly decide to take a swig of my vanilla brandy bottle! I may also decide it is time to find a cable channel with cartons for a couple of hours...
 

Rippled

Veteran Member
Obama is postponing a couple of fundraisers for tonight to attend a meeting on Ebola. I thought that was really big of him...

I had rather he keep his plans to fund raise or play a round of golf.
Can not believe anything that he says. Obama is an habitual liar.
 
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