FOOD Report food & grocery shortages / price increases here: 2023 Edition

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ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
I recently obtained a Berkshire ham from Wild Fork. The Berkshire is a specific variety of pig, and it has won many taste tests. I was curious.

The ham is uncured. This is an old English lard type pig.

The meat was the most tender I have ever eaten as a ham. The meat is streaked with fat, giving it a very juicy, rich taste. It was completely different than most of the commercial hams available in flavor.

It has so much fat in the muscle tissues it fills you up quickly. Very rich; I can see why it won so many taste comparisons.

Recommended if you like rich pork flavor. The exact opposite of lean and tough.

Perfect if you are on a carnivore diet.
A TIP from my father-in-law who was a butcher for 60+ years.
If you don't want TOUGH PORK don't buy the RED PORK MEAT, try to get the lightest pink pork meat in the meat counter.
RED MEAT IS TOUGH OLD PIG.
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Yesterday at our local Walmart, eggs were down to $3.06 from $4.98. I stocked up. I paid $3.68/lb for a family pack of rib-eye boneless pork chops (10 pack), which was higher than what I've been paying by over $2. The pork and chicken here have been really cheap, and up until now, I've not seen any rise in prices. Tupelo, MS.
 

vector7

Dot Collector
Q: "Why do you think the president has such low popularity...and you have even less favorable ratings. Why do you think that is?"

KAMALA HARRIS: "I see people thanking the president, thanking our administration."
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vector7

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There aren't JUST underground bases, there's also underground highways.

What are they prepping for?

When the food runs out the .gov Elite will be prepared...

A friend of mine who lives in that area was just talking to me about this last week. He said there are 400 to 500 trucks a day going into that particular facility and they are mostly food distribution trucks. Food companies. The video, random...seems to confirm.
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bracketquant

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So, it's on sale. How much to buy?

For products with a fairly long shelf life, I buy according to the expiration date (actually "best used by" date). From today, to that date, I count the months, and buy an amount equal to that number of months. Meals are loosely planned to use that product once a month. If it's something that I would eat more often, I would buy twice as much, and plan to use it every 2 weeks.

As an example, the local WalMart has jars of Ragu 4 cheese Alfredo sauce at 1.25 each, about half the cost of most other "inexpensive" Alfredo sauces. The expiration date is 10/2024, 20 months from now. So, it's picking up about 20 jars.

And, on a side note, WalMart has had strange pricing with Ragu Alfredo sauces. A few months ago, the large 21.5 ounce jars of regular Alfredo were priced the same as the 16 ounce jars. No rollback or clearance, the original listed price, like the above 4 cheese sauce.
 

summerthyme

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I was in WalMart yesterday and they had Eagle Brand sweetened condensed milk for $1 a can! Regular price lately is $2.58 a can, and even Aldi's own brand is $1.79

I bought 24 cans.

Even hubby didn't bitch (we have about 8 cans left in the cellar) when he heard the deal.

They had a TON of it. I think someone must have over ordered or lots of extra was delivered by mistake. Sometimes, you just get lucky!

Summerthyme
 

bracketquant

Veteran Member
I was in WalMart yesterday and they had Eagle Brand sweetened condensed milk for $1 a can! Regular price lately is $2.58 a can, and even Aldi's own brand is $1.79

I bought 24 cans.

Even hubby didn't bitch (we have about 8 cans left in the cellar) when he heard the deal.

They had a TON of it. I think someone must have over ordered or lots of extra was delivered by mistake. Sometimes, you just get lucky!

Summerthyme
It's my belief that stores haven't, and cannot, figure out buying patterns of products for home cooking by "scratch", since Covid.

New cooks will try something, creating a new larger demand. The stores will order more. If the new cook didn't like what they cooked, they may no longer buy that product in the future. Stores will then be overstocked for some items, generally requiring sales to reduce inventory that isn't moving. Sweetened condensed milk seems to fall into that category of cooking. WalMart having a pallet of Campbell's Cream of Mushroom soup, at 25 cents a can, worked for me awhile back. That pallet lasted a couple of days.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
I was in WalMart yesterday and they had Eagle Brand sweetened condensed milk for $1 a can! Regular price lately is $2.58 a can, and even Aldi's own brand is $1.79

I bought 24 cans.

Even hubby didn't bitch (we have about 8 cans left in the cellar) when he heard the deal.

They had a TON of it. I think someone must have over ordered or lots of extra was delivered by mistake. Sometimes, you just get lucky!

Summerthyme
Check the exp date.
 

summerthyme

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It's my belief that stores haven't, and cannot, figure out buying patterns of products for home cooking by "scratch", since Covid.

New cooks will try something, creating a new larger demand. The stores will order more. If the new cook didn't like what they cooked, they may no longer buy that product in the future. Stores will then be overstocked for some items, generally requiring sales to reduce inventory that isn't moving. Sweetened condensed milk seems to fall into that category of cooking. WalMart having a pallet of Campbell's Cream of Mushroom soup, at 25 cents a can, worked for me awhile back. That pallet lasted a couple of days.
I found it interesting they had paired it with small cans of canned pumpkin on the end cap, which weren't on sale ($2.78 for a 15 oz can! I'll be canning pumpkin this fall!) I suspected it was an attempt to explain to younger folks what it could be used for,

Summerthyme
 

bluelady

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I was in WalMart yesterday and they had Eagle Brand sweetened condensed milk for $1 a can! Regular price lately is $2.58 a can, and even Aldi's own brand is $1.79

I bought 24 cans.

Even hubby didn't bitch (we have about 8 cans left in the cellar) when he heard the deal.

They had a TON of it. I think someone must have over ordered or lots of extra was delivered by mistake. Sometimes, you just get lucky!

Summerthyme
I don't know if it's been mentioned here, but I keep seeing YouTubes about making caramel sauce by heating sweetened condensed milk, often in the can.
 

SousJo

Contributing Member
There aren't JUST underground bases, there's also underground highways.

What are they prepping for?

When the food runs out the .gov Elite will be prepared...

A friend of mine who lives in that area was just talking to me about this last week. He said there are 400 to 500 trucks a day going into that particular facility and they are mostly food distribution trucks. Food companies. The video, random...seems to confirm.
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I can sort of corroborate this. I follow industry-specific forums on Reddit; forums such as r/Truckers, r/nursing, r/Teachers. The truckers have been dropping loads in big underground cave systems and taking selfies there to post to r/Truckers with thread titles like "Its Real!" and "Finally got a load here" and "My turn to see this place!"

If I can remember my password so I can log into TB2K from my laptop, I'll go find some and link them.
 

SousJo

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Prices are in south TX. Ground beef has dropped, from about 3.20# to just over 2.70# for the big chubs. Chicken leg quarters holding steady for about 0.47# - bought twenty pounds. Eggs are down about .10ea, but they're still about .30 per egg.

Everything else up, sometimes ridiculously so. Ribeyes for 20.99, large tortillas nearly $4 for an 8-count bag.

It's making me nervous. This is not a wealthy area.
 

bracketquant

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Prices are in south TX. Ground beef has dropped, from about 3.20# to just over 2.70# for the big chubs. Chicken leg quarters holding steady for about 0.47# - bought twenty pounds. Eggs are down about .10ea, but they're still about .30 per egg.

Everything else up, sometimes ridiculously so. Ribeyes for 20.99, large tortillas nearly $4 for an 8-count bag.

It's making me nervous. This is not a wealthy area.
If you ignore the ribeyes (for the wealthy few only?), that leaves the tortillas. I hear from some friends in Texas that the poor make their own (tastier, and much cheaper to make).

I wouldn't start to get nervous, unless flour, rice, cornmeal, etc... start getting expensive.
 

summerthyme

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If you ignore the ribeyes (for the wealthy few only?), that leaves the tortillas. I hear from some friends in Texas that the poor make their own (tastier, and much cheaper to make).

I wouldn't start to get nervous, unless flour, rice, cornmeal, etc... start getting expensive.
START?!! When I did most of my prepping, I filled pails with 12 cents a pound whole wheat, 8 cents a pound white rice, 14 cents a pound all purpose flour, and 25 cents a pound dry beans. Also, white sugar was 18 cents a pound, and pasta could be found on sale for 25 cents a pound.

"Cheap" staples haven't been cheap for a decade, at least, but they are double, on average, what they cost when Trump was in office.

Summerthyme
 

anna43

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I don't know if it's been mentioned here, but I keep seeing YouTubes about making caramel sauce by heating sweetened condensed milk, often in the can.
Yes, I've heard of that and even did it back in the 70's. However, the danger of the can exploding has made doing so not recommended. You can buy the caramelized condensed sweetened milk in the Mexican aisle of Walmart which makes more sense.
 

psychgirl

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Yes, I've heard of that and even did it back in the 70's. However, the danger of the can exploding has made doing so not recommended. You can buy the caramelized condensed sweetened milk in the Mexican aisle of Walmart which makes more sense.
If you do it real slow in a crock pot, I’ve heard it’s not as dangerous. A friend of mine from way back made it all the time
 

psychgirl

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Went to Safeway today for a few sale items - 1/2 gallons of milk 97c, butter 2.97/lb, Sara Lee bread 2.99 (regular price 4.59!). I wasn't looking really close, but condiments seemed thin and dog/cat food had many empty spaces.
And our Kroger….had rows and rows of canned pet foods in the markdown aisle!

Weird!
Indiana
(My town is nuts for dogs do this makes even less sense!)
 

energy_wave

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I went to my local store today on a beer run. I happened to look in the new enclosed coolers that were installed and stocked as, the new owner re-positioned product and retired old open display coolers from the 70's. What caught my eye was a pack of Kraft cheese slices going for over $7.00. Ice cream is so expensive now the local manufacture almost closed up completely, after spending 100 million on an upgrade. Biden's total f#cked up economy keeps on shoving it up the ol wazoo. If the rumors of a cat food shortage are true, it might be because that's the only meat people can afford to buy.
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bracketquant

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START?!! When I did most of my prepping, I filled pails with 12 cents a pound whole wheat, 8 cents a pound white rice, 14 cents a pound all purpose flour, and 25 cents a pound dry beans. Also, white sugar was 18 cents a pound, and pasta could be found on sale for 25 cents a pound.

"Cheap" staples haven't been cheap for a decade, at least, but they are double, on average, what they cost when Trump was in office.

Summerthyme
Define cheap.

Currently, wheat flour at .29 to .39 cents a pound isn't cheap, to you? Rice at .39 to .49 cents? Pasta at .49 to .69 cents? Beans at .79 to .89 cents? Do you understand that you were buying when prices were incredibly cheap, and now they are only cheap.

I bought chicken this year, on sale, at .29 cents a pound. It was .19/lb in the 1890s.

The average wage earner in the US, after taxes, could likely buy between 15 to 45 POUNDS of staples for EVERY SINGLE HOUR they worked in a day.

Expensive will be when it is a measure of wheat, or two measures of barley, for a day's wages.
 

onmyown30

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December 2024. First thing I did.

And it keeps in a cool cellar at least 5 years past date... too much sugar to go bad!

Summerthyme
Our Walmart had these on clearance for .50 a couple weeks ago. I bought a dozen but then my daughter in law asked if she could have a few so gave her half! We have noticed the local Walmart has had some decent clearance items we been picking up a couple things almost every time we go. Got a big box of oatmeal squares for $3 (down from $10) last trip!
 

babysteps

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Define cheap.

Currently, wheat flour at .29 to .39 cents a pound isn't cheap, to you? Rice at .39 to .49 cents? Pasta at .49 to .69 cents? Beans at .79 to .89 cents? Do you understand that you were buying when prices were incredibly cheap, and now they are only cheap.

I bought chicken this year, on sale, at .29 cents a pound. It was .19/lb in the 1890s.

The average wage earner in the US, after taxes, could likely buy between 15 to 45 POUNDS of staples for EVERY SINGLE HOUR they worked in a day.

Expensive will be when it is a measure of wheat, or two measures of barley, for a day's wages.

Don't forget, though, that not everyone is seeing prices that good. It's very dependent upon your location.

Flour, pasta, and rice in my neck of the woods (western oregon) are each about $1/lb. Now, yes, that's still affordable and relatively cheap. But it's also two to four times more expensive than it used to be.

So, not unaffordable. But not as cheap as it was just a few years ago.
 

energy_wave

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I just scored some great deals on 80% lean beef and 8 oz blocks of cheese from my local grocery store.

Just over 4-1/2 lbs of ground meat for $13.86 and 7 blocks of cheese at $1.50 each or 3-1/2 lbs for $10.50. I can afford mac and cheese now, lol. Most 80% is around $4.99 a lb in my area and the cheese is usually $2.99 to $3.09 a block. I saved around 18 bucks.

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