CRISIS Ammo shortage about to get even worse

20Gauge said:

Darn I was happy with my 50 yard. I am jealous.

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Some of my neighbors admire my indoor range in the barn. It's not long, but it doesn't bother the OTHER neighbors.

Rio is worth watching- they load a Brenneke slug in their brand that is so marked (Rio Royal Brenneke). Their proprietary Royal Star is not to be sneezed at either (250 round case - 12 gauge 2.75 inch Slug Rio Star Low Recoil 1200 FPS 1.125 oz Shotgun Ammo - RSSLR12 | SGAmmo.com).

The review below calls the Royal Star a Brenneke slug. I don't know if it is, the Brennekes I know and love have a sharp shoulder like a paper punch. It might be, if it is a hard lead alloy it looks as if it would perform well. If I needed slugs and did not mind the slight degradation in performance imposed by the reduced recoil loading, I would be all over these.

As always, YMMV. I do not shoot a 12 ga. because I am recoil shy ... some folks have different considerations however.
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RIO Royal Star Slug Review
Published: 2 July 2012

Written by Vitaly Pedchenko

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Categories: Ammunition

If you are looking for accuracy in your shotgun slugs then you can’t go wrong with the Rio Royal Star Slug. With distances up to 100 yards away, you will be able to get good and stable results from firing your shotgun at a potential target. But what is really interesting about the Rio slug is that it uses a plastic wad and lead projectile to make its trajectories as accurate as they are. If you are a competitive shooter or merely a hunter who frequently fires their shotgun then you will want the very best slugs available. The Rio Royal Star Slug is top of the line and I recommended it for the Remington 870 shotgun.



There are two options available for the Rio Royal Star Slug that you have to choose from. You can purchase the standard Star Slug or the Low Recoil Star Slug. Both options add precision and accuracy when firing your shotgun. In situations where accuracy is a matter of life or death, you cannot go wrong with slugs that are as accurate and powerful as these are. As for the two options you have available, the only real difference between them is the velocity. The standard Star Slug can go 1410 feet per second while the Low Recoil Star Slug can travel 1200 feet per second. Even though both can travel about 65 yards, the low recoil will take just a little bit longer to get there. But since it is low recoil then you will have even more accuracy than the standard Star Slug. It will be just a tad less powerful that’s all. However, you won’t even notice the difference in power unless you are shooting targets which are far away from you. If you are only shooting at closer targets then it won’t make a difference which option of the Star Slug you use in your shotgun.

A box of five Rio Royal Star Slugs will run you about $7. You can purchase the boxes individual just to test the slugs out and see how great they are. Once you are ready to purchase more boxes, you can just purchase an entire case that has 250 rounds in it for roughly $160. For someone who does a lot of outdoor shooting, this will be worth the money.

RIO Royal Star Slug
The smokeless powder looks like bright green round granulas. This slug is called Brenneke slug:

RIO Royal Star Slug
Highly recommended ammunition for hunters or competitive shooters.

12 gauge at S&G out now. but I just ordered 22lr for 10 cents each 49.95 For 500 not many left.

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All of the RIO shotgun shells added are still in stock now.

Or just use AmmoSeek or the like as a first option for price and availability.

Its kind of late to be getting into the ammo purchase game. If you feel the need to practice, then I suggest airsoft. You can easily set up a box with a trap in your garage or basement and practice sight acquisition and aiming drills with your airsoft substitute and save on ammo expenditures. I have been doing that for years.

Some people are ALWAYS late to the par=tay.

Doesn't mean there is no par=tay though.

Field and Stream in Florence Alabama had everything in stock except for 9mm and .223. Plenty of .40 and .45. All rifle ammo and Shotgun available in hunting calibers and .308. Long guns were well stocked, no semi auto's. Plenty of pistols.

Now at Academy down the street, no pistol ammo, no military calibers and very little Shotgun ammo. Hardly any pistols or long guns.

waterdog said:

12 gauge at S&G out now. but I just ordered 22lr for 10 cents each 49.95 For 500 not many left.

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In 1947, I was buying LR22 for 50 cents a box of 50. Given inflation, I think $5.00 a box is cheaper.

Troke said:

In 1947, I was buying LR22 for 50 cents a box of 50. Given inflation, I think $5.00 a box is cheaper.

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In the 60's I think they were about 60 cents. I remember thinking of them as a penny a round, near as matters.

In the 1960s my dad would sell .22s and shotgun shells one round at the time.

Dozdoats said:

In the 1960s my dad would sell .22s and shotgun shells one round at the time.

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Coming soon, to a neighborhood near you.

My township had a bounty on gophers (cow stepped in hole, sprained leg) and crows (they ate sprouting corn) $.02 for a gopher tail and $.02 for a set of crow legs.

Dead shot could make some real cash money there, enough to pay for more ammo.

Troke said:

My township had a bounty on gophers (cow stepped in hole, sprained leg) and crows (they ate sprouting corn) $.02 for a gopher tail and $.02 for a set of crow legs.

Dead shot could make some real cash money there, enough to pay for more ammo.

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They protected the crows but most townships in this county pay $2 for a gopher tail.

Waiting for a bounty on antifafa ears.

At Rural King in Ocala today. Some .22, plenty of 12 & 20 ga., stacks of 6.5 Creedmore & 6.5 Grendel, .308 in 20 rd boxes & 125 rd battlepacks (109$), 30-06. Nothing in .223 or pistol calibers.

Line Doggie said:

At Rural King in Ocala today. Some .22, plenty of 12 & 20 ga., stacks of 6.5 Creedmore & 6.5 Grendel, .308 in 20 rd boxes & 125 rd battlepacks (109$), 30-06. Nothing in .223 or pistol calibers.

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How was pricing?

Millwright said:

Waiting for a bounty on antifafa ears.

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How about scalps? Purple, red, green.

Line Doggie said:

At Rural King in Ocala today. Some .22, plenty of 12 & 20 ga., stacks of 6.5 Creedmore & 6.5 Grendel, .308 in 20 rd boxes & 125 rd battlepacks (109$), 30-06. Nothing in .223 or pistol calibers.

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I was at one the other day. They had 5, 100 round boxes of Federal 5.56. I asked "How many can you sell me?" He told me "As many as you want." One second later, the shelf was empty!

6.5 Grendel

That's a pistol caliber

Every place near me is picked clean, o.did score 100rds of #8 12ga at China mart, had 1 box left. Frankly the writing has been on the wall for years,.if.you don't have that which you need by now. It's your own damn fault.

Trouble said:

if.you don't have that which you need by now. It's your own damn fault.

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Those who were aware could do the most good by getting out of the way of the newly aware. Everyone here should have done that. There's a lot of newb conservatives out there with brand new weapons and clueless about ammo and practice.

bw said:

Those who were aware could do the most good by getting out of the way of the newly aware. Everyone here should have done that. There's a lot of newb conservatives out there with brand new weapons and clueless about ammo and practice.

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And the writing has been clear to see for all, its every man for himself at this point.

bw said:

Those who were aware could do the most good by getting out of the way of the newly aware. Everyone here should have done that. There's a lot of newb conservatives out there with brand new weapons and clueless about ammo and practice.

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THIS

I used to go to wally world every year after hunting season and buy up their high brass turkey loads, on sale, in the biggest shot sizes they had. Bird shot and buck shot are on different scales, so #4 buck (.240") is not the same as #4 bird shot (.13"), but it is still a good size pellet and a pile of them. Recoil is high but it is shooting 2 oz of shot very fast. It would make a LOT of leaks and at reasonable ranges be non-survivable.

I have killed several coyotes with the turkey load and it is very effective.

Many wont consider a shotgun for combat since the ammo is huge, heavy, and they dont hold many rounds compared to most anything else. This is all true but I have killed more coyotes, foxes, coons, and other problem animas with a shotgun than all of my AR's and other rifles and handguns combined. One and done. The problem we are facing is there are much more than one, but when one is done the rest may take notice and decide to leave.

Saiga twelve with twenty five Round drums...


Boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom Boom Boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom..reload...boom boom boom......is anything still moving honey?

Millwright said:

Waiting for a bounty on antifafa ears.

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How about going biblical with a bounty on fore skins?

buttie said:

How about going biblical with a bounty on fore skins?

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UMM no

Not even If they even still have the supporting equipment.

Academy in Greenville, NC this morning got their truck and was out of 556 in about 8 people, 3 box limit on all. When I got up to the counter I asked about 223 they had some off brand for 20.00 per box of 20. Off brand 9mm 14.00 box. I passed and went to a gun shop in my home town and got it for 9.99 a box of 20 as I needed some parts as well.

buttie said:

How about going biblical with a bounty on fore skins?

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Lot of female Antifa too.....

bw said:

Those who were aware could do the most good by getting out of the way of the newly aware. Everyone here should have done that. There's a lot of newb conservatives out there with brand new weapons and clueless about ammo and practice.

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Even if you are forced to participate at some point, do it from "out of the way".

Preferably 200yds+, out of the way.

I hate it when you're in that scenario that alot of us have been in....you see some ammo available for good price but just don't have the $$. Then when you have some $$ to get some, there ain't none. I have enough to get me through whatever may come initially. You can never have enough ammo. But I don't plan on trying to fend off an army of sorts. Hunting to support some of my food needs. Defense when it comes to that. And practice every now and then to keep my accuracy in check. If done right all those things don't take a truck load of ammo. It will, however, be good for bartering if it gets to that point. When it comes down to it, those armed walking dead antifa's, mob's, crackheads, looters, etc. that come down my dead end road will gladly resupply any deficiencies I may have.

I started reloading about 6 years ago. It is useful to be able to assemble components in different ways for different situations. Found out recently that even though I have a ccw, I can't buy ammo here in CA without jumping through some major hoops. However I did order some bullets recently and they shipped to me no problem.

Hognutz said:

Lot of female Antifa too.....

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the females are worse than the males. they spit on you and hit you and throw crap at you, and if you hit them back, the scream "you hit a girl"" and some of the screachy voices,, they make chalk on a blackboard say HELL NO> THAT HURTS MY EARs

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You are right I must have hit the wrong or looked the wrong sorry. They do have 12gauge in stock.

Tristan said:

How was pricing?

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Maybe 10-15% over 6 months ago. I’ve been a little surprised that magazines haven’t gone up that I can see, except for 1911s.

Meadowlark said:

Its kind of late to be getting into the ammo purchase game. If you feel the need to practice, then I suggest airsoft. You can easily set up a box with a trap in your garage or basement and practice sight acquisition and aiming drills with your airsoft substitute and save on ammo expenditures. I have been doing that for years.

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That's crap. I have ordered 3000+ over the last few days. It starts showing up this Friday. Most will be here within two weeks.

It requires effort. And the price has gone up.
Which may or may not go down in the future.
These prices might be the new normal.
I have old boxes of Winchester 9mm and 7.62x51 that say $6.99.

There is ammo out there. If you want it, you will have to do some work, to get it.
No one will give it you.
No one will trade good ammo for your old crap.
Money still talks.

Thinwater said:

I used to go to wally world every year after hunting season and buy up their high brass turkey loads, on sale, in the biggest shot sizes they had. Bird shot and buck shot are on different scales, so #4 buck (.240") is not the same as #4 bird shot (.13"), but it is still a good size pellet and a pile of them. Recoil is high but it is shooting 2 oz of shot very fast. It would make a LOT of leaks and at reasonable ranges be non-survivable.

I have killed several coyotes with the turkey load and it is very effective.

Many wont consider a shotgun for combat since the ammo is huge, heavy, and they dont hold many rounds compared to most anything else. This is all true but I have killed more coyotes, foxes, coons, and other problem animas with a shotgun than all of my AR's and other rifles and handguns combined. One and done. The problem we are facing is there are much more than one, but when one is done the rest may take notice and decide to leave.

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What is the range for 00 buck?

How far does the shot spread at that range?

For the reloaders: Primers are still a no go.. Look at the prices on the gun broker auctions and it says all you need to know.