DISASTER China's Three Gorge Dam in Danger
- Thread starter Doomer Doug
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I read posts above with source material claiming Trump is "engineering" the dam collapse.
I reject this and INNUMERABLE similar claims, attacks, and baseless accusations as psy-op BS.
3GD will fail because of CHINESE CORRUPTION, INCOMPETENCY, AND DEADLY HUBRIS. Their errors began with the mere concept of an outrageously invasive and poorly designed structure, continued with graft and bungling through every phase of construction, and now conclude with homicidal mismanagement.
The Lord God is Lord of Earth's waters. Finding every reason to allow the reasonable and natural consequences of His children's perfidy and fraud, He will allow the dam to fail. "The Waters Must Flow".
I pray for the myriad innocents who have already been/will be harmed. Their government will receive a Cosmic Level Smackdown--LONG OVERDUE.
I reject this and INNUMERABLE similar claims, attacks, and baseless accusations as psy-op BS.
3GD will fail because of CHINESE CORRUPTION, INCOMPETENCY, AND DEADLY HUBRIS. Their errors began with the mere concept of an outrageously invasive and poorly designed structure, continued with graft and bungling through every phase of construction, and now conclude with homicidal mismanagement.
The Lord God is Lord of Earth's waters. Finding every reason to allow the reasonable and natural consequences of His children's perfidy and fraud, He will allow the dam to fail. "The Waters Must Flow".
I pray for the myriad innocents who have already been/will be harmed. Their government will receive a Cosmic Level Smackdown--LONG OVERDUE.
Quiet Man
Nothing unreal exists
I think that we have to consider the possibility. It is undeniable that we're at war with China (certainly they are at war with us), and this is a hell-of-a coincidence, considering Covid (Trump: 'China Virus'), Houston consulate, and myraid other things going on. HAARP is fact.
Added: I find it difficult to believe in coincidence at the macro level.
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Bubble Head
Has No Life - Lives on TB
You do realize should this dam burst that it will be the biggest disaster the world has seen possible since Noah got in the Ark. Half a billion Chinese to start with and then supply problems around the world along with currency, starvation, and disease. This event will be of Biblical Proportions to say the least. We have seen nothing like this throughout history in death count simply because the world has never been so populated nor so economical intertwined. No war has caused this many deaths.
Just thought I would share my doom for the day.
Just thought I would share my doom for the day.
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Thanks so much! This is most helpful! I believe I'll print these off, for family members who don't understand the extent of the flooding happening now in China. Thanks again!
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
If I am understanding you correctly, you are not aware of the EXTENT of this 100-YEAR-FLOOD in China.
THOUSANDS of acres of land---no, THOUSANDS OF SQUARE MILES of land --are UNDER WATER.
And all that water in the area ABOVE the dam--is STILL COMING DOWNSTREAM--toward the dam.
And the DAM has been letting out ALL the water it can POSSIBLY let out--even at risk of destroying the dam (which it now appears to be doing) to try to SAVE the dam, since all that water IS still coming downstream--and is now within only about 10 feet (if that much) of the top of the dam. (China hasn't let ANY pictures out of the area BEHIND the dam for weeks, now).
Letting ALL that EXTRA water go DOWNSTREAM--where it is ALSO raining in a 100-YEAR-FLOOD---is adding to and exacerbating the flooding ALREADY GOING ON in THOSE cities.
Your post indicates you think it's flooding, and going down to normal, and flooding again, and going down to normal---
There haven't been "normal water levels" in ANY Of these areas---for WEEKS.
the water levels in China have ALL BEEN AT FLOOD STAGE for WEEKS now.
I think you need to go back to page one of this thread, and start reading again--to get a better picture of what is happening here.
Seeker22
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Squid, I think you nailed it. This is one of those times I hope you are wrong but don't think you are.
winodog
The Bible is a flat earth book
Posted for the pic. Article is WSJ behind a firewall
View: https://twitter.com/El_Deano/status/1287391166250520576
View: https://twitter.com/El_Deano/status/1287391166250520576
I'm not sure anyone is!
I am not saying there is no problems here.
Quite the opposite my comments about the power lines are just a ruler of how close things has all ready been to tumbling that dam down river past Wuhan not counting the back wash behind it. The maestro that is working the dam had to break levies and they weren't the low ones in this basin. If he let the dam relieve say six times the water he is now what would happen? The river could drain to the very bottom before it reaches a point of zero flow. And that's not including what the other dams up stream are doing.
I am not saying there is no problems here.
Quite the opposite my comments about the power lines are just a ruler of how close things has all ready been to tumbling that dam down river past Wuhan not counting the back wash behind it. The maestro that is working the dam had to break levies and they weren't the low ones in this basin. If he let the dam relieve say six times the water he is now what would happen? The river could drain to the very bottom before it reaches a point of zero flow. And that's not including what the other dams up stream are doing.
Bubble Head
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Countrymouse you have the right idea but are way underestimating the problems. Major projection for immediately more rain. Flooding is way above 100 year levels. More like 1000 year level right now. To top that off with all the water about to come down they have for some reason closed the gates on the Dam. It appears they stopped releasing water. Speculation is cavitation is causing instability in the dam. I guess they are going to let it top over. Should be interesting what all flows over the top. Doubtful they will be planting anything this year on the land that has been flooded. Toxic chemicals and just plan clean up time will be monumental. If the dam unzips well just stop counting because it is all never before seen territory.
With more rain in their forecast the square area it falls on is important the bigger the more water that can be expected to end up in the river.
Now the rate it empty's into the river is in question and will flow down stream, but at some point it reaches a large open space of water the flow seems to slow down and displacement becomes the factor! The water emptying into a large lake the water level medially rises evenly all the down to the dam, this is displacement.
Now the rate it empty's into the river is in question and will flow down stream, but at some point it reaches a large open space of water the flow seems to slow down and displacement becomes the factor! The water emptying into a large lake the water level medially rises evenly all the down to the dam, this is displacement.
I'm not an engineer of any sort, so is there someone here who understands more about dam systems that can explain why they haven't already opened all the gates on the 3GD? I would think that at this point, a controlled release of as much water as possible, so as to preserve the dam, would be preferable even in light of all the existing downstream flooding, because otherwise the dam is going to go and everything downstream is going to get flooded anyway and it'll be much worse. That way, the minute the rain slacks off, they can close the dam off and relieve the downstream areas.
I have to assume that there is some consequence of opening all of the gates on the dam that is somehow more detrimental to the dam and the downstream areas than allowing it to fail completely. That, or it's not more detrimental than the dam failing but the CCP is gambling that the dam won't fail at all, and that by only opening some of the gates they avoid causing any damage to the dam (or at least much less).
I have to assume that there is some consequence of opening all of the gates on the dam that is somehow more detrimental to the dam and the downstream areas than allowing it to fail completely. That, or it's not more detrimental than the dam failing but the CCP is gambling that the dam won't fail at all, and that by only opening some of the gates they avoid causing any damage to the dam (or at least much less).
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
Wow. Thanks Bubble Head---and I thought I was being "too" negative, in trying to convey to cowboy how bad it is!
And yes you're right---read back a page or two--a member caught a report that said CHINESE OFFICIALS ADMITTED cavitation and explained that was why they closed some of the gates.
Cowboy--they CAN'T let out any more water. They are letting it out as fast as they can--and now they've had to scale back how much they're letting out, because it was tearing up the dam. (and still is, imo)
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
They DID have them all open.
They just 7 hours ago HAD TO CLOSE SOME OF THEM again due to cavitation---it was literally washing itself out underneath the dam.
A member posted something (check back last 2 pages) that the Chinese Government ADMITTED there's cavitation going on & that's why they closed the gates.
Read back over the last couple pages--my posts and others about how bad the debris being thrown out got, how they shut down some of the gates, etc.
So now the problems are just compounding....
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
cyberiot
Rimtas žmogus
Or, as postulated above, some of the gates are damaged and can no longer be opened and/or controlled.
I’m using this link:
and it had today’s (it’s already Monday in China) date and close to correct time there only three roostertails not sure where the rest is going. Under the dam is a likey answer as any
r
John Deere Girl
Veteran Member
I had noticed the brown, almost reddish colored water earlier.
So that raises the question: why would they not design the dam to be able to have all gates open under an overload of water?
The question is why can't they. I don't think the dam is letting water out anywhere near what it can, it just don't have anywhere to put it. If they want to stop water from topping the dam it has to be done from above. With the other dams in the same shape they will if they haven't all ready been breaking levies. It's when they run out of levies to break the the Little Dutch boy is running.
The strength of the dams is just a monkey wrench that can cause more problems.
The strength of the dams is just a monkey wrench that can cause more problems.
Warm Wisconsin
Easy as 3.141592653589..
Melodi
Disaster Cat
I am starting to suspect (along with others here) that the gates may no longer be operational and are either closed or open and stuck there.
I also think that if that stuff in the current live-stream is water shooting up from under the dam we really have a "Dead Dam Standing."
I also think that if that stuff in the current live-stream is water shooting up from under the dam we really have a "Dead Dam Standing."
I can see four roostertails. The third is so deep in shadow that it's hard to distinguish, but there is, and the fourth, all the way at the back, is experiencing interesting surges. Every couple of seconds there's a noticeable spurt of extra water that flares up from the top of the outflow.
I doubt they can control the flood gates the
link I have with current date it looks like only three are ‘working’ to be fully optimistic I say working actual term is probably ‘open and can’t be closed’
link:
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bw
Fringe Ranger
Oscillations inside the pipe is probably indicating cavitation. This is what was reported in Glen Canyon, as I understand. Ideally, the flow should be completely smooth. I am not an engineer.
xtreme_right
Veteran Member
Run time 9:38. Lots of clips of massive land slides due to flooding in China.
View: https://youtu.be/qX0yUj0Te1c
Mountain, I finally can see the fourth one, wish I hadn’t that looks nasty, the dam is eating itself. Those surges are probably the dam puking out concrete and rebar
Truthsearch
Doom is ALWAYS 6 Months Away...
For those of us who are not engineers can you please let us know if the dam is going to collapse or not? I will have to run to Costco (an hour long trip) to get some more OTC meds and Vitamins if so. Thanks 
Quiet Man
Nothing unreal exists
The more I watch this video stream, the more I am convinced that the camera has firmware bug(s) in the encoding algorithm. Here is a very obvious example (bug flying through foreground). Watch the video to see the full effect.
I think it happens frequently in the water stream, and the errors in various similar shades of grey are leading to the appearance of what we are interpreting to be 'chunks'. There was a point, overnight, where I watched for over 5 minutes where this seemed to be happening several times a minute, and every time the chunks disappeared in a instant well before completing the normal trajectory one would expect.
I wish that I had written the time down.
I do not say this to contradict the seriousness of having so many gates closing in the face of the oncoming storm.
I think it happens frequently in the water stream, and the errors in various similar shades of grey are leading to the appearance of what we are interpreting to be 'chunks'. There was a point, overnight, where I watched for over 5 minutes where this seemed to be happening several times a minute, and every time the chunks disappeared in a instant well before completing the normal trajectory one would expect.
I wish that I had written the time down.
I do not say this to contradict the seriousness of having so many gates closing in the face of the oncoming storm.
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xtreme_right
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Melodi
Disaster Cat
I think the only one who knows for sure is The Creator, however you may view them....but my engineering housemate who as she said "is an engineer in the Water Industry," thinks this does not look good.For those of us who are not engineers can you please let us know if the dam is going to collapse or not? I will have to run to Costco (an hour long trip) to get some more OTC meds and Vitamins if so. Thanks
Now, she also wouldn't say much because the situation is just too unprecedented but she did say that one reason the water would shoot up like that from the bottom would be the if "water is falling at too steep an angle."
She also indicated the mud-brown color might be an issue but it might also not be an issue at all (one of those things that would need more information which we don't have).
Personally, I think you should go get your meds...
Bubble Head
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I fully agree with you Melodi. If the above tweet is correct already millions of people are missing. Chi-Coms are out of options. It either holds during Top Over or it is over. I think they know it won't hold so those that can are bugging out to whatever is considered safe. Very few will make it. What a mess to return to.