CORONA Main Coronavirus thread

Peapicker · Mar 31, 2020

marsh said:
Tennessee nursing home coronavirus outbreak leaves 2 dead; 101 hospitalized

An outbreak of the coronavirus at one Tennessee nursing home left two dead and more than 100 others hospitalized by Sunday – a week after the state banned most visitors at extended-care facilities.

www.foxnews.com

Tennessee nursing home coronavirus outbreak leaves 2 dead; 101 hospitalized

By Danielle Wallace | Fox News

An outbreak of the coronavirus at one Tennessee nursing home left two dead and more than 100 others hospitalized by Sunday – a week after the state banned most visitors at extended-care facilities.

Dozens of residents were evacuated from at the Gallatin Center for Rehabilitation and Healing, located in Sumner County northeast of Nashville, on Friday after testing positive for COVID-19, Gov. Bill Lee said in a press release. National Guard troops arrived Saturday to begin testing all remaining residents and staff at the Gallatin Center.

Residents who tested positive were transported to one of several hospitals within the High Point Health System using an ambulance strike team of EMS professionals from Sumner, Cheatham, and Dickson counties, First Call, and MedicOne.

Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee (right, at podium) speaks to reporters at Memphis International Airport about the state's response to the new coronavirus on Friday, March 27, 2020, in Memphis, Tenn. (AP Photo/Adrian Sainz).

By Sunday, a total of 42 people had been admitted and remained in isolation at Sumner Regional Medical Center. Two people had died at the hospital after falling ill with COVID-19, the press release said.

Fifty-nine additional patients were to be transported to Sumner Regional Medical Center for admission between Sunday and Monday after their test results came back positive.

Dozens of other non-critical patients were transported to other facilities for care: 14 to Trousdale Medical Center, 12 to Livingston Regional Hospital, and 8 to Riverview Regional Medical Center.

“Our hearts are with the residents and their families and all of those mourning loved ones during this difficult time,” the Sumner Regional Medical Center in Gallatin said in a Facebook post on Sunday. “Sumner Regional Medical Center has activated our emergency plan, which expands our capacity of available beds. We stand ready and will continue serving our patients and community through this crisis.”

Thirty-three members of the Gallatin Center staff tested positive and were asked to self-isolate at home.

The outbreak comes a week after Lee issued an executive order on March 22 banning most visitors at assisted living facilities and nursing homes to prevent the spread of infection.

Unified Command – a joint operation between the Tennessee Department of Health, Tennessee Department of Military and the Tennessee Emergency Management Agency – also facilitated the deep cleaning and disinfecting of the Gallatin Center. The state also worked to support remaining staff and residents who did not test positive for COVID-19.

Ya and our Gov ( who I voted for) is waltzing around and won't lock down this state.

Leaving it up to county and city Mayors who in my opinion are way out of their league making these kind of decisions.

The Gov. strongly suggest that you stay home, well that ain't gonna work.

He's worried about economy! What the F good is that if 40+% of your state is dead.

desertvet2 · Mar 31, 2020

Pinecone said:
Desertvet2, with all respect, I see a pandemic. It isn't the first; it isn't the last.

We need all the good people we have here to help those who aren't as strong as we are. That includes you, so how about a more positive attitude towards the day after? I don't know what wars you've fought, or the evil that you've seen, or the battles that you might still be fighting, but we need you to help your country get through this. Get strong. You can do this and you are needed. I'm worried about you.

...do not see my viewpoint as negative or defeatist. If I tell you the truth, and the truth is judgement and sentencing...it is what it is.

Mankind needs to humble itself. Recognize that it is not the most high.
This , as with everything...is a cycle. A cycle that repeats.

Much like an engine that has been lovingly rebuilt. It has been torn apart, cleaned, measured, and re-assembled with new parts and seals. It has been carefully broken in. The lubricant has been changed at regular Intervals.

Then after a time, the operator has chosen to run the piss out of it, neglect the maintenance, or even check the fluids. Because the engine was so lovingly refurbished, it can handle this mistreatment...for a time. If the operator soon returns to paying attention to maintenance, and a more gentle touch when operating...and giving thorough Inspections once again, the engine may continue to serve the operator for a long time.

However, if the operator continues on the path to destruction, the engine will blow up between his legs at 100mph....

Sounds negative there at the end, but if the operator would just use good sense, the engine would purr along and be ready at all times for an emergency run at full throttle occasionally.

We are just getting started....

Pestilence

Famine

War

Death

Rebirth

rondaben · Mar 31, 2020

Texican said:
If these centers of Virus outbreak are not shut down there will be more and more infections and deaths.

How soon will we see thousands of deaths every day?

God help us.

Texican....

This week.

Leigh19717 · Mar 31, 2020

marsh said:
Tennessee nursing home coronavirus outbreak leaves 2 dead; 101 hospitalized

An outbreak of the coronavirus at one Tennessee nursing home left two dead and more than 100 others hospitalized by Sunday – a week after the state banned most visitors at extended-care facilities.

www.foxnews.com

Tennessee nursing home coronavirus outbreak leaves 2 dead; 101 hospitalized

By Danielle Wallace | Fox News

An outbreak of the coronavirus at one Tennessee nursing home left two dead and more than 100 others hospitalized by Sunday – a week after the state banned most visitors at extended-care facilities.

Dozens of residents were evacuated from at the Gallatin Center for Rehabilitation and Healing, located in Sumner County northeast of Nashville, on Friday after testing positive for COVID-19, Gov. Bill Lee said in a press release. National Guard troops arrived Saturday to begin testing all remaining residents and staff at the Gallatin Center.

Residents who tested positive were transported to one of several hospitals within the High Point Health System using an ambulance strike team of EMS professionals from Sumner, Cheatham, and Dickson counties, First Call, and MedicOne.

Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee (right, at podium) speaks to reporters at Memphis International Airport about the state's response to the new coronavirus on Friday, March 27, 2020, in Memphis, Tenn. (AP Photo/Adrian Sainz).

By Sunday, a total of 42 people had been admitted and remained in isolation at Sumner Regional Medical Center. Two people had died at the hospital after falling ill with COVID-19, the press release said.

Fifty-nine additional patients were to be transported to Sumner Regional Medical Center for admission between Sunday and Monday after their test results came back positive.

Dozens of other non-critical patients were transported to other facilities for care: 14 to Trousdale Medical Center, 12 to Livingston Regional Hospital, and 8 to Riverview Regional Medical Center.

“Our hearts are with the residents and their families and all of those mourning loved ones during this difficult time,” the Sumner Regional Medical Center in Gallatin said in a Facebook post on Sunday. “Sumner Regional Medical Center has activated our emergency plan, which expands our capacity of available beds. We stand ready and will continue serving our patients and community through this crisis.”

Thirty-three members of the Gallatin Center staff tested positive and were asked to self-isolate at home.

The outbreak comes a week after Lee issued an executive order on March 22 banning most visitors at assisted living facilities and nursing homes to prevent the spread of infection.

Unified Command – a joint operation between the Tennessee Department of Health, Tennessee Department of Military and the Tennessee Emergency Management Agency – also facilitated the deep cleaning and disinfecting of the Gallatin Center. The state also worked to support remaining staff and residents who did not test positive for COVID-19.

i am so angry that he has moved too slow for my state. We are almost 2000 cases and he said yesterday it’s safer at home but wouldn’t mandate a stay at home order because of our economy. Dead people can’t spend money jackass.

bw · Mar 31, 2020

frazbo said:
Hmmmm...synagogues, churches.....but no mention of mosques? I doubt his statement was all inclusive, so, are mosques still allowed to be open and not to be prosecuted for large gatherings? Just a thought.

Guess I'm ok with that.

Red Baron · Mar 31, 2020

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Mixin · Mar 31, 2020

Indiana

2,159 Cases
49 Deaths
13,373 Tested

Elkhart, Warren, Decatur have their first death, Hancock has its second and Marion has 5 new ones for a total of 17.
I overlooked Riply has its first, too. Lake has 4 more new ones.

tno5 · Mar 31, 2020

NCGirl said:
It's a joke. Everyone is still out and about. Friend sent me a picture from Lowe's yesterday. It looked like Black Friday. I am not sure if the people even realized that they would still be open today. My friend has a landscape supply company, they are "essential" and going to work through. I mean getting mulch right now is vital dontcha know

I live in Charlotte, NC. Went out early this morning and it took 3 grocery stores to find enough on my list to stay out of the stores for a long time - at least to get us through the "apex" they said is coming in 2-3 weeks, but for us, at least 3 months. The stores still have no meat, dairy, paper goods, cleaners, cold and flu medicine, but I did find eggs, some butter and enough hamburger buns to last 2 months. We go nowhere, people on my side of town all go to hang out in Walmart and hardware stores for hours every day. It is crazy, people are not taking it seriously. I was terrified to go out with gloves on, using sanitizer wipes, and having Vicks in my nose. Then I had to sanitize every single item I purchased, then threw my clothing in the laundry. I am now exhausted - I feel so bad for the grocery workers, no gloves, masks, only those shields that are supposed to protect them.

My husband has an essential business. He has no employees. He always had customers in his shop but now he has locked his gate to stop anyone from entering inside. A lot of customers are getting angry and yelling at him because he won't allow them inside, they have to stand 20 feet away from the gate, then he will talk to them. They tell him they aren't sick, let them in, then he asks them, do you even know what's going on in the world, you can be sick and not even know it and be spreading it everywhere.

poppy · Mar 31, 2020

NCGirl said:
It's a joke. Everyone is still out and about. Friend sent me a picture from Lowe's yesterday. It looked like Black Friday. I am not sure if the people even realized that they would still be open today. My friend has a landscape supply company, they are "essential" and going to work through. I mean getting mulch right now is vital dontcha know

NC closures sound the same as Illinois. About everything is deemed essential. But people in this area and over in Indiana are doing pretty well at distancing from other people. The best thing they did everywhere is close schools. Schools are the main spreaders of the flu every year. Wife and I still go for a ride every day and there are very few people out and about. It is quite possible to still get out for necessary supplies and have a very low risk. Keep your distance and wash your hands often. The guy out running along the road for exercise is no threat to you in a car and the guy loading mulch into his car at Lowes isn't either. That said, I would not go into any store that had a full parking lot.

SheWoff · Mar 31, 2020

Peapicker said:
Ya and our Gov ( who I voted for) is waltzing around and won't lock down this state.

Leaving it up to county and city Mayors who in my opinion are way out of their league making these kind of decisions.

The Gov. strongly suggest that you stay home, well that ain't gonna work.

He's worried about economy! What the F good is that if 40+% of your state is dead.

He has turned out to be a joke. RHINO. Now he has us staying at home until the end of April. No worlds largest fish fry this year either, for the first time. But the thing is that when I went out to the store yesterday (water heater sprung a leak and needed parts) it was busier in this part of TN than normal! Boats lining up at the pumps for gas, RV's everywhere. Folks out just riding around tired of staying home. If the rest of the state is acting this way we are all doomed.

She

20Gauge · Mar 31, 2020

We are now looking at 17 people confirmed with the virus......

I expect that to grow significantly due to the below I will make in a moment.

crossbowboy · Mar 31, 2020

Skyraider · Mar 31, 2020

This morning, I colored my wife’s hair. It’s my regular task and has a few perks. Reason I’m mentioning it is this, I think it’s forward positive leaning. It’s part of mental health maintenance. Keeping life going the best you can helps you feel the best you can. Oh about perks :-) we do the job in the bathroom and she always takes her shirt off so I don’t spill on any clothes. Yeah, that’s a perk!

20Gauge · Mar 31, 2020

As many of you know, Florida is trying to get names and numbers for anyone who is not a Florida resident. This has caused significant back log, ( we have seen the pictures ).

What they are doing at the I95 crossing is forcing everyone off the road and checking IDs, demanding to know where they are staying and telling them they are to isolate for 14 days. They are going even further and checking to see if they are actually isolating. Failure to isolate will get them arrested. This is great for Florida. I applaud them for making an effort.

The consequences of Florida's actions.

People are trying to take side roads to cross into Florida, ( state hwy 17 for example ), they are getting off at I95 exits near the border in Camden County GA. This has forced Florida to block those roads to everyone. Georgia is trying to help in the process, but it is causing a secondary problem.

The rat Basta*ds who are not able to make it into Florida are turning to Georgia for a place to stay instead of returning to the NorthEast. Hotels and houses are being rented by these people and it has now back flowed to Exit 38 in Georgia to the Islands and surrounding area.

Yes, our increasing numbers of those who are infected in our area are directly related to this problem. We have gone from just a couple to 17 in just a few days. All out of towners.

Solution:

The city council is looking to force, ( has been voluntary ) the closures of all hotels, motels, rental homes to all people who are out of town.

The council is currently is fighting over the decision. I will post the results if I hear.

20Gauge · Mar 31, 2020

crossbowboy said:

give it a minute.... lots to type.... lots...

pinkelsteinsmom · Mar 31, 2020

frazbo said:
Hmmmm...synagogues, churches.....but no mention of mosques? I doubt his statement was all inclusive, so, are mosques still allowed to be open and not to be prosecuted for large gatherings? Just a thought.

God I hope so.

wvstuck · Mar 31, 2020

Skyraider said:
This morning, I colored my wife’s hair. It’s my regular task and has a few perks. Reason I’m mentioning it is this, I think it’s forward positive leaning. It’s part of mental health maintenance. Keeping life going the best you can helps you feel the best you can. Oh about perks :-) we do the job in the bathroom and she always takes her shirt off so I don’t spill on any clothes. Yeah, that’s a perk!

We spent all week-end building a new chicken hutch, taking things out of the greenhouse and planting in the garden, setting up the pool, planting fruit trees, starting new trees, building gates and so on... We are all about keeping life as close to normal as possible...

CaryC · Mar 31, 2020

Peapicker said:
Ya and our Gov ( who I voted for) is waltzing around and won't lock down this state.

Leaving it up to county and city Mayors who in my opinion are way out of their league making these kind of decisions.

The Gov. strongly suggest that you stay home, well that ain't gonna work.

He's worried about economy! What the F good is that if 40+% of your state is dead.

Same for Tate Reeves. Governor of Mississippi. He gave an interview to Brietbart news:

Gov. Tate Reeves: Mississippi Coronavirus Response Is Surgical, Local

It seems to me that not shutting the state down because some counties don't have any cases, is wrongful thinking, in that if he put a shelter in place order out, it would keep them from getting any.

He's worried about 30% unemployment. Big Woop, the 2.2 stimulus package has already taken care of that.

parocan · Mar 31, 2020

At this moment in time, living on Vancouver island is a handy thing. The ferries are still running, but only
allowing islanders and the people hauling all the shit we need to live onto the island. Our international airport
was closed for international travel, domestic only and that's really limited. The few people we know who still go
into deepest darkest Victoria says it's really creepy, with no tourists it's been taken over by the homeless. The grocery
stores are still well stocked other then for TP and bread yeast. Lots of everything else. We are lucky though in that we
can source alot of our meat local. Hertels that does the best gluten free smoked hams is here on the island as well
as a few beefalow (bison/cow crosses) herds. That meat is awesome. People are still out and about but are good at
observing the social distance thing.

Pinecone · Mar 31, 2020

Can hydroxychloroquine prevent COVID-19? Study aims to find answers

Currently, there is no known scientific cure for the conronavirus pandemic ravaging the globe, but one potential solution, antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine, has received increased attention in recent weeks. A new study aims to confirm whether that attention is warranted, proving it can...

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Can hydroxychloroquine prevent COVID-19? Study aims to find answers
By Chris Ciaccia | Fox News

Currently, there is no known cure for the coronavirus pandemic ravaging the globe, but one possible remedy, the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine, has received increased attention in recent weeks. A new study aims to confirm whether or not that attention is warranted.

The study, which will be conducted by the University of Washington in conjunction with New York University, looks to enroll 2,000 people who are "close contacts of persons with confirmed or pending COVID-19 diagnoses," according to a statement announcing the study.

"We currently don’t know if hydroxychloroquine works, but we will learn in as short a timeframe as possible what the outcome is,” principal investigator Ruanne Barnabas said in the statement.

Participants in the eight-week study will be randomly assigned to take the antimalarial drug, which has been in use since the early 1950s, or a placebo over two weeks. Nasal swab samples will be collected and tested daily to confirm new COVID-19 infections across the two groups.

"Our goal is to stop transmission of COVID-19 in the community,” Barnabas added.

"Currently, there is no proven way to prevent COVID-19 after being exposed," added co-principal investigator and NYU assistant professor Anna Bershteyn. "If hydroxychloroquine provides protection, then it could be an essential tool for fighting this pandemic. If it doesn't, then people should avoid unnecessary risks from taking the drug.”

The study, which aims to finish in the early summer, received funding from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Wellcome Trust, and Mastercard.

For those interested in the study, its website can be found here.

The Food and Drug Administration recently announced an emergency use authorization to try several drugs, including hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, in an effort to combat COVID-19, despite a lack of clear evidence of their effectiveness.

A study published earlier this month by French researchers suggested that COVID-19 patients could be treated with antimalarial medication and antibiotics in the battle against the novel coronavirus.
New York State recently said it would start coronavirus drug trials in an attempt to control the pandemic's impact on the state, according to Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who announced the state had acquired 70,000 doses of hydroxychloroquine, 10,000 doses of zithromax and 750,000 doses of chloroquine.

Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine are antimalarial drugs. Zithromax, or azithromycin, is an antibiotic.

No drug should be taken without a doctor's prescription.

President Trump has spoken out about hydroxychloroquine in recent weeks.
As of Tuesday morning, at least 800,000 coronavirus cases have been diagnosed worldwide, 164,610 of which are in the U.S. The disease has accounted for at least 38,714 deaths around the world, including 3,170 people in the U.S.

Skyraider · Mar 31, 2020

wvstuck said:
We spent all week-end building a new chicken hutch, taking things out of the greenhouse and planting in the garden, setting up the pool, planting fruit trees, starting new trees, building gates and so on... We are all about keeping life as close to normal as possible...

Same for us up here on the mtn. Looks like we are in similar AO. Midatlantic, western md. Planted potatoes, got the seeds in under lights, fencing a new section of garden, cause if we don’t the deer will party. Mowing fields and weeding flower beds when the weather lets us. Got a couple trees laying on the edge of fields that need dealt with but DW doesn’t want me using the saws and such on my own right now. She says no unnecessary trips to the ER :-) I listen to her gut, always. Haven’t uncovered the pool yet, but will be getting to it. The apricots and peaches are all in bloom now which makes me smile every time I look at them. Peace

20Gauge · Mar 31, 2020

The council is still going at it. It is officially an "emergency" meeting......

Current thoughts by the council is that those who have a short term rental are allow to finish the term, but will not be allowed to renew rental and must leave.

They will keep open some motels / hotels for those who are providing "services" the county deems needed....

20Gauge · Mar 31, 2020

They are doing the vote thing.... 6-0 with one commissioner missing..... he was there but disappeared from the remote viewing.

20Gauge · Mar 31, 2020

update......

They voted to keep the "damn yankees" out except where critically needed..... also to kick out any "damn yankees" whose short term rental expires.....

There will be no road blocks at this point. They didn't want to spend the money.

CaryC · Mar 31, 2020

Update for MS:

Mississippi COVID-19 Cases to Date

County	Cases	Deaths
Adams	10
Alcorn	3
Amite	4	1
Attala	10
Benton	4
Bolivar	22	1
Calhoun	3
Carroll	1
Chickasaw	13
Choctaw	6
Claiborne	1
Clarke	4
Clay	4
Coahoma	21
Copiah	9
Covington	2
Desoto	84	1
Forrest	21
Franklin	3
George	3
Grenada	3
Hancock	16	1
Harrison	45	1
Hinds	90
Holmes	15	1
Humphreys	3
Itawamba	3
Jackson	40
Jefferson	1
Jones	6
Kemper	1
Lafayette	15	1
Lamar	5
Lauderdale	35
Lawrence	5
Leake	5
Lee	24	1
Leflore	19	1
Lincoln	11
Lowndes	11
Madison	42
Marion	5
Marshall	14
Monroe	6
Montgomery	7	1
Neshoba	4
Newton	2
Noxubee	3
Oktibbeha	17
Panola	7	1
Pearl River	30
Perry	3	1
Pike	17
Pontotoc	5
Prentiss	4
Quitman	3
Rankin	40	1
Scott	10
Sharkey	1
Simpson	2
Smith	1
Sunflower	11	1
Tallahatchie	2
Tate	11
Tippah	26	2
Tishomingo	1
Tunica	12	1
Union	3
Walthall	5
Warren	1
Washington	20
Webster	5	1
Wilkinson	14	2
Winston	7
Yalobusha	6
Yazoo	9
Total	937	20

Pinecone · Mar 31, 2020

'Pandemic' scientist says his team has discovered potential cure for COVID-19

Dr. Jacob Glanville's team took antibodies used to neutralize SARS and used technology in their lab to adapt them to recognize COVID-19.

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'Pandemic' scientist says his team has discovered potential cure for COVID-19

Dr. Jacob Glanville's team took antibodies used to neutralize SARS and used technology in their lab to adapt them to recognize COVID-19.

Author: Kelly Hessedal (kfmb)

Published: 6:12 PM PDT March 30, 2020
Updated: 6:12 PM PDT March 30, 2020

CALIFORNIA, USA — A California scientist and his team say they have found a potential cure for COVID-19.

News 8 introduced you to Dr. Jacob Glanville of Distributed Bio a couple of weeks ago. He's one of the doctors featured in the Netflix show "Pandemic." His team in the Bay Area has been working around the clock trying to come up with a drug to treat COVID-19. Monday he announced he believes they've found one.

"We are happy to announce we have completed the engineering and we have some very potent antibodies that can be effective against the virus," said Dr. Glanville.

Below is News 8 reporter Kelly Hessedal's extended interview with Dr. Glanville and the answers he gave on the potential cure:

How did you come up with this potential cure?
We took a series of five antibodies from around 2002 that were able to neutralize SARS. We were able to use technology in our laboratories to evolve those antibodies against SARS to adapt them to recognize COVID-19.

We tried with five different antibodies because we weren’t sure which one would work the best. All five worked so we have a pretty powerful tool chest available to us right now to produce a final therapeutic.

Would the drug be a shot? Or a pill?
We think we will be able to deliver it as a shot. We’ve been deliberately trying to engineer extremely potent antibodies because if they’re potent you need less material and then you could give it as an injection.

Will you be doing the trials on sick patients in the United States?
This is a conversation we’re having with the United States government on exactly where the study is being done. We're also talking to the European Commission.
We want to make sure when we’re ready to release this we’re ready to release it to the entire world.

What is the next step?
We are sending [the antibodies] to the military for confirmation testing and to Charles River Laboratories for safety and tox characterization. We’ve partnered with two different companies that will help us scale up large batches of the antibody for production. We're in discussions to start humane phase one/two trials that would happen at the end of the summer.

Pending good results - [if] we see the drug is safe and helpful means we could start releasing it for compassionate use in September.

How excited were you when you guys realized all this hard work you put in may have really paid off?
I have a remarkable team. It blows me away the endless amount of time they were able to invest in this.

frazbo · Mar 31, 2020

bw said:
Guess I'm ok with that.

I really am too...it was more of a "threaten and persecute the Christians and Jewish, but not the Muslims". Maybe my point didn't come across as I was planning. It sounded good in my head! Well, there ya go, that was the problem...lol.

NCGirl · Mar 31, 2020

Caterpillar is closing their plant near Raleigh. They are saying reduced demand. That is partially true maybe. Husbands company supplies parts to them. Or they do when they have them....

OldArcher · Mar 31, 2020

MinnesotaSmith said:
Boris Johnson's government is furious with China and believes it could have 40 times the number of coronavirus cases it says

UK government sources quoted on Sunday say China faces a "reckoning" over its handling of the coronavirus crisis.

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Boris Johnson's government is furious with China and believes it could have 40 times the number of coronavirus cases it says
Adam Payne

Mar 29, 2020

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson's government is said to be furious with China, accusing it of spreading disinformation and lying about the number of coronavirus cases it has.

"Some of the reporting from China was not clear about the scale, the nature, the infectiousness of this," Minister for the Cabinet Office Michael Gove told the BBC.

Scientists have reportedly told Johnson that China could have up to 40 times the number of cases it says.

Estimates from Radio Free Asia show that up to 42,000 bodies have been cremated in Wuhan since the crisis.

It could prompt the prime minister to abandon his deal with the Chinese telecoms giant Huawei.

"UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson's government is said to be furious over China's handling of the novel coronavirus, with one British official quoted on Sunday saying Beijing would face a "reckoning" once the COVID-19 crisis was over.

UK government officials are accusing China of spreading disinformation about the severity of the coronavirus outbreak in its borders, the Mail on Sunday reports.
The newspaper says scientists have told Johnson that China could have downplayed its number of confirmed cases of the coronavirus "by a factor of 15 to 40 times." China had reported 81,439 cases at the time of writing.

On Sunday, March 29, Minister for the Cabinet Office Michael Gove told the BBC he was skeptical of the China numbers. "It was the case … [that] the first case of coronavirus in China was established in December of last year, but it was also the case that some of the reporting from China was not clear about the scale, the nature, the infectiousness of this," he said.

The Chinese government has disclosed only 3,304 deaths from coronavirus. Yet funeral homes in Wuhan have disposed of an estimated 42,000 corpses, according to Radio Free Asia.

Officials also apparently believe China is trying to expand its economic power through offering help to other countries that are trying to combat the virus.
The newspaper quoted three UK officials, who all reported fury within Johnson's government.
"It is going to be back to the diplomatic drawing board after this," one said. "Rethink is an understatement."

The second unnamed official said "there has to be a reckoning when this is over," while the third said "the anger goes right to the top."
The newspaper added that Johnson's government was so angry with China's handling of the crisis that the prime minister could abandon his decision to let the Chinese telecoms company Huawei develop the UK's 5G wireless network.

Johnson angered his main ally, President Donald Trump, by giving Huawei a limited but significant role in improving the country's wireless infrastructure.
The Trump administration was angered by the decision, with the president himself reportedly expressing his disapproval before hanging up in an "apoplectic" phone call with Johnson last month.

The decision also riled swathes of lawmakers in Johnson's Conservative Party.
"We can't stand by and allow the Chinese state's desire for secrecy to ruin the world's economy and then come back like nothing has happened," one Cabinet minister quoted by the Mail on Sunday said.

"We're allowing companies like Huawei not just into our economy, but to be a crucial part of our infrastructure. This needs to be reviewed urgently, as does any strategically important infrastructure that relies on Chinese supply chains."

Johnson has written to every UK household urging people to continue following strict social-distancing rules.
In the letter, expected to reach Brits in the next few days, the prime minister, who this week tested positive for the coronavirus, said things would "get worse before they get better."
"But we are making the right preparations, and the more we all follow the rules, the fewer lives will be lost and the sooner life can return to normal," he said.

The prime minister last week introduced a national lockdown, telling people to leave their homes only for essential reasons and giving the UK police the power to fine those who do not comply."

Glad to see the Brits at least entertaining the possibility of changing their dialog with the chinese... That they've noticed that the chinese lie, is a step in the right direction.

If they REALLY get smart, they'll not have anything to do with china. Period.

Time will tell, and perhaps we'll see...

OA

OldArcher · Mar 31, 2020

frazbo said:
Hmmmm...synagogues, churches.....but no mention of mosques? I doubt his statement was all inclusive, so, are mosques still allowed to be open and not to be prosecuted for large gatherings? Just a thought.

De Blasio is the typical Demoncrap useless piece of shit. Absolutely worthless. It's a damned shame there are people so stupid, that they vote for him. Proof that the world is changing, and not for the better...

OA

Red Baron · Mar 31, 2020

20Gauge said:
As many of you know, Florida is trying to get names and numbers for anyone who is not a Florida resident. This has caused significant back log, ( we have seen the pictures ).

What they are doing at the I95 crossing is forcing everyone off the road and checking IDs, demanding to know where they are staying and telling them they are to isolate for 14 days. They are going even further and checking to see if they are actually isolating. Failure to isolate will get them arrested. This is great for Florida. I applaud them for making an effort.

The consequences of Florida's actions.

People are trying to take side roads to cross into Florida, ( state hwy 17 for example ), they are getting off at I95 exits near the border in Camden County GA. This has forced Florida to block those roads to everyone. Georgia is trying to help in the process, but it is causing a secondary problem.

The rat Basta*ds who are not able to make it into Florida are turning to Georgia for a place to stay instead of returning to the NorthEast. Hotels and houses are being rented by these people and it has now back flowed to Exit 38 in Georgia to the Islands and surrounding area.

Yes, our increasing numbers of those who are infected in our area are directly related to this problem. We have gone from just a couple to 17 in just a few days. All out of towners.

Solution:

The city council is looking to force, ( has been voluntary ) the closures of all hotels, motels, rental homes to all people who are out of town.

The council is currently is fighting over the decision. I will post the results if I hear.

Mom has a beach side condo just north of Daytona Beach.

Last week she was telling me of people staying in her condo she has never seen before.

They have some migrating Canadians every year but she thinks these new people are from New York or New Jersey.

OldArcher · Mar 31, 2020

bw said:
Guess I'm ok with that.

I'd allow all the muslimes to congregate in as few areas as possible. Let them infect each other, then quarantine them for forty days.

OA

parsonswife · Mar 31, 2020

jward said:
Persistent SARS-CoV-2 presence is companied with defects in adaptive immune system in non-severe COVID-19 patients
Bing Liu, Junyan Han, Xiaohuan Cheng, Long Yu, Li Zhang, Wei Wang, Lan Ni, Chaojie Wei, Yafei Huang, Zhenshun Cheng

doi: Persistent SARS-CoV-2 presence is companied with defects in adaptive immune system in non-severe COVID-19 patients
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Background: COVID-19 has been widely spreading. We aim to examine adaptive immune cells in non-severe patients with persistent SARS-CoV-2 shedding. Methods 37 non-severe patients with persistent SARS-CoV-2 presence transferred to Zhongnan hospital of Wuhan University were retrospectively recruited to PP (persistently positive) group, which was further allocated to PPP group (n=19) and PPN group (n=18), according to their testing results after 7 days (N=negative).

Epidemiological, demographic, clinical and laboratory data were collected and analyzed. Data from age- and sex-matched non-severe patients at disease onset (PA [positive on admission] patients, n=37), and lymphocyte subpopulation measurements from matched 54 healthy subjects were extracted for comparison. Results Compared with PA patients, PP patients had much improved laboratory findings, including WBCs, neutrophils, lymphocytes, neutrophil-to-lymphocyte ratio, albumin, AST, CRP, SAA, and IL-6. The absolute numbers of CD3+ T cells, CD4+ T cells, and NK cells were significantly higher in PP group than that in PA group, and were comparable to that in healthy controls. PPP subgroup had markedly reduced B cells and T cells compared to PPN group and healthy subjects.

Finally, paired results of these lymphocyte subpopulations from 10 PPN patients demonstrated that the number of T cells and B cells significantly increased when the SARS-CoV-2 tests turned negative. Conclusion Persistent SARS-CoV-2 presence in non-severe COVID-19 patients is associated with reduced numbers of adaptive immune cells. Monitoring lymphocyte subpopulations could be clinically meaningful in identifying fully recovered COVID-19 patients. Abbreviations COVID-19: Coronavirus disease 2019; SARS-CoV-2: Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2; HC: Healthy controls.

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Persistent SARS-CoV-2 presence is companied with defects in adaptive immune system in non-severe COVID-19 patients

Background COVID-19 has been widely spreading. We aim to examine adaptive immune cells in non-severe patients with persistent SARS-CoV-2 shedding. Methods 37 non-severe patients with persistent SARS-CoV-2 presence transferred to Zhongnan hospital of Wuhan University were retrospectively...

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Someone please Translate for us non medical folks

parsonswife · Mar 31, 2020

Red Baron said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1244825958680604674
View: https://twitter.com/EndGameWW3/status/1244825958680604674

Very interesting. Projects under 600 deaths for Oregon with peak reached on May 6th.

jward · Mar 31, 2020

MinnesotaSmith said:
Good coronavirus news

mailchi.mp

"If you saw that meme going around about Joe Biden and his old friend Cornflake Jackson, well, Tom Woods Show guest Roger McCaffrey, whom I quoted to you last week, is my Cornflake Jackson. If he says something, you can take it to the bank, buckeroo.

Roger just sent this out to select friends:

"Friends, this is of immense importance and bears out what was already known. But the more reputable doctors who read and understand the results, the better for those of us who contract the virus.

"The medical profession resists all new drugs—until it stops resisting. The existence of envy among specialists is as prevalent as in the general population. If they don’t discover a drug, and don’t get onto it early, they tend to envy the professionals who do.

"At any rate: the drug combo is working in countless thousands of patients—rest assured Oz has plenty of contacts and the word is out. Just not quite accurately reported in the New York Times or on CNN and the big networks. What’s good for Trump, they hate. And yet as we know, the election will not turn on the success of this drug combination."

What's Roger talking about?

This:

Dr. Mehmet Oz spoke with the doctor in charge of a French study featuring 80 patients suffering from COVID-19.

The patients were given a combination of the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine and the antibiotic azithromycin. According to Dr. Didier Raoult, 65 of the 80 were back home within five days.

One patient ("an 86-year-old man who was very ill when he came," according to Dr. Oz) died during the trial.

No complications were detected.

Dr. Raoult describes himself as "very optimistic" about his findings.

Dr. Oz summarizes the results:

"At five days, these patients were basically not infectious, he argues, and they could be transferred to the ward.... On average, the mortality rate for [coronavirus] patients in France coming to the hospital was about 4%. In his case, in 80 patients, one patient died. … [Raoult] said that's not something that you can hang your hat on, but it's certainly not trending worse and it seems to be meaningfully better."

So if you wanted some good news, there's some."

Yeah, I think we posted a few days back that even NY is now using the combo, and since then it's been given "emergency authorization" to be proscribed- though I don't see why, other than politics- there was ever a thought that iit could NOT be used. Anyways:

We recorded this yesterday, n someone was hopeful that dr. Zelenko would record his data points:
...looks like that isn't a concern ... more applause...

BREAKING: FDA Issues Emergency Authorization for Hydroxychloroquine to be Prescribed to Coronavirus Patients https://thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/breaking-fda-issues-emergency-authorization-for-hydroxychloroquine-to-be-prescribed-to-coronavirus-patients/ via
@gatewaypundit

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1244497278737485824
View: https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1244497278737485824?s=20

Loretta Van Riet · Mar 31, 2020

Novel protection from the novel virus. Now I have seen EVERYTHING. Tiny url below, runtime 1 min 49 sec.

View: https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=9xBMr_1585557971

ExCop · Mar 31, 2020

Heliobas Disciple said:
Yes, I think they do. That's why I highlighted the wiggle language. I thought it was important to post not because I believe it (I've been a proponent of this being a bio-weapon from the beginning) but because it's getting a lot of attention and I thought it newsworthy.

HD

I think we are attributing waaay too much preplanned sneakiness to the Chinese. I am pretty sure they would never release a virus bio-weapon on their own ground then procede to nuke their own economy. My guess is the Murphy factor is at play here. Some lower level flunky was told to dispose of some dead specimens and being the devious type he decided to make a few bucks selling them at the wet market instead. Now that does not mean that they were not developing new strains and testing them on these "Specimens" on the way to building a better bio-weapon. I just think that their version of a "Secure" Lab has more holes in it than a screen door on a submarine.

jward · Mar 31, 2020

parsonswife said:
Someone please Translate for us non medical folks

Their stated conclusion was: Conclusion Persistent SARS-CoV-2 presence in non-severe COVID-19 patients is associated with reduced numbers of adaptive immune cells. Monitoring lymphocyte subpopulations could be clinically meaningful in identifying fully recovered COVID-19 patients. Abbreviations COVID-19: Coronavirus disease 2019; SARS-CoV-2: Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2; HC: Healthy controls.

I took it to mean they are going to look at these types of white blood cells #s and if the #s are normal it can be a clinical way to assess recovery and ascertain that the patient is no longer shedding the virus.

bw · Mar 31, 2020

ExCop said:
Some lower level flunky was told to dispose of some dead specimens and being the devious type he decided to make a few bucks selling them at the wet market instead. Now that does not mean that they were not developing new strains and testing them on these "Specimens" on the way to building a better bio-weapon.

That's been my view all along. There are way too many who believe in incredibly complex conspiracy theories, when incompetence has such great explanatory value.

Nowski · Mar 31, 2020

Just received this in a text from my sister.

I know that it is bad everywhere right now, much worse in the damocrap areas
than other areas, and it would seem just deserts are here.

However, we must remember the brave trees, that gave up their lives for us,
everything that makes our lives more livable, they helped to provide for us.

This image was attached to her text.

Please be safe everyone.

Regards to all.

Nowski

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