BRKG Woohoo, it's over! Swine flu fears ease....

[Caplock50]

And it darn sure hasn't eased for me...it's now within a mile of my home. There's 2 cases of it being quarantined in the local hospital here.

 

[BlueNewton]

Not if it's not killing a lot of people and right now it isn't. There is no evidence that the mortality rate of this flu is any greater than in the seasonal flu outbreaks. The difference in this is it is highly virulent and also highly publicized.

The 'danger' I see is many are running around with their heads cut off with the sky is falling carp over this (not saying that you are) that as this wanes as it's likely to do with seasonal norms that by the time next fall/winter rolls around people will be so sick of the hype and the lack of much happening in the first wave that they won't pay as much attention to the next wave and it's very likely that the next wave will be a big killer.

Not that tragedy isn't taking place now and that people are not dying from it as they are. And we should be paying attention and we should be careful. But this particular wave/strain is the soup before the main course. People get too burned out on this now and they won't be paying attention when they need to.

It's not killing people outside of Mexico because everyone and their grandmother who might have been exposed at this point it being put on Tamiflu, which still works--prophalactically, as well. So, what happens when Tamiflu (and Relenza) no longer works? Or when the supplies are dimished due to such heavy demand? Like in the Fall? When it will likely be even deadlier?

What happened in Mexico before Tamiflu shows what the virus is capable of. And that certainly has nothing in common with the typical flu.

 

[LMonty911]

Stock preps now like there's no tommorrow... This coming fall is going to be hell on earth.

It's almost a certainty that this new flu is going to end up in a pig in Asia or the middle east that's also inflected with the Avian bird flu sometime within the next few months and when that happens, it's pretty much a given that the two strains are going to merge into a new strain that is most likely going to be highly contagious...

Mr Mason- while I agree with your premise- it is my personal concern too- I dotn necessarily agree with your timing.

This strain will likely be back in the fall. It may be very similar and causing the smae kinds of illness and high attack rates. It may have mutated to be LESS pathnogenic or may have mutated to cause higher morbidity or mortality all on its own.

At any time, maybe as I type, maybe anytime in the next few years, it could meet up with any other the hundreds of other wild flus out there in humans, swine, birds or other animals, exchange genes with it and then cause a totally different pandemic strain, of currently unknown seriousness.

We are in this for the long run, and we always have been. Just because we are seeing what looks like the opening acts of s pandemic play, we dont have any idea what the cast of characters are going to do in the next acts. Or even how many acts we are going to see.

IMHO-The only answer is to stay prepared, stay ready, recongize that things could cahnge for the better or worse many times in the near future. Guard agaisnt "flu fatigue" so we dotn let our guards down and get blindsided by any of those changes.

this fall could be hellish, but it could just as easily be OK, not much worse than now. if it is, that doesn't mean it couldnt change overnight. so if folks are saying that when the fall hits if nothing looks too bvad they are going to stop being prepared, I think they;ll make a mistake.

 

[Monty]

Over or not I'm glad I got the stocks I got and will be on the lookout for more. They will be needed sometime, maybe this fall when the season really starts.

Monty

 

[denfoote]

The next "evolutionary" development!!!!

I wonder which Bio Lab has been contracted by the Abomination to develop this??

My bet is that it's already developed and the anti Christ is just waiting for an "opportune" time to order it's release!!

HIV patients at higher risk from flu, WHO says
02 May 2009 11:53:21 GMT
Source: Reuters
* HIV patients at high risk from flu, need antivirals most

* WHO fears complications if HIV and H1N1 viruses combine

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L2516414.htm

 

[maric]

To the OP,
Padre, you know I have the up most respect for you but did you notice this comes from MSNBC? They are the ape in the White House's mouthpiece and right in his pocket. And apeboy will do anything not to hurt the already hurting economy, including selling his soul (which IMO he already has done) But anyway, with 20 years of medical background under my belt I gotta call this the biggest load of horse manure outside of a barn. A 'potential' pandemic isn't over within days. And the number of cases is still on the rise. Plus if this was no big deal hundreds of school districts nationwide wouldn't be cutting out classes for 10 days at a clip, not at this time of year and because they'd lose their funding for each day they are closed.

 

[Reader]

Well it should give the US more time to top up on Tamiflu given there is only enought at this time for just over 15% of the population...........

I wonder how many other countries are going to top off their tamiflu/relenza supplies? I don't think there will be enough of the meds to take care of all the countries.

 

[nomifyle]

Never let a crisis go to waste. All the panic got the Kansas governor put in as Secretary of HH...just like some of the other designees for Obama's cabinet that are undesirables. If this one fizzles then it gives me more time to increase preps in the pandemic area. My masks and gloves are from before Katrina, but I feel the need to increase that supply so I'll have enough to give to my DGI sons and their families.

Judy

 

[Sky]

Four countries have confirmed human to human. Links on Compreshensive thread.

That was a fuzzy warm french statement.

As we have been posting for days, so far it is not killing us just making us sick as pigs and forced five hundred school closures in US.

That was a fuzzy warm french statement

 

[rodeorector]

To the OP,
Padre, you know I have the up most respect for you but did you notice this comes from MSNBC? They are the ape in the White House's mouthpiece and right in his pocket. And apeboy will do anything not to hurt the already hurting economy, including selling his soul (which IMO he already has done) But anyway, with 20 years of medical background under my belt I gotta call this the biggest load of horse manure outside of a barn. A 'potential' pandemic isn't over within days. And the number of cases is still on the rise. Plus if this was no big deal hundreds of school districts nationwide wouldn't be cutting out classes for 10 days at a clip, not at this time of year and because they'd lose their funding for each day they are closed.

Everything you have said is true, Maric, but it is encouraging that this strain lacks the gene that makes it deadly (like the 1918 flu). No?

 

[BlueNewton]

Everything you have said is true, Maric, but it is encouraging that this strain lacks the gene that makes it deadly (like the 1918 flu). No?

If it lacks the "gene" that makes it deadly, why did it kill so many in Mexico? Patients in the USA, and now in Mexico, are getting antivirals. That is why it is not killing at the moment.

 

[The Cub]

On April 30, 2009, Rick Wiles interviewed Dr. Henry Niman regarding the flue cocktail (aka 'Swine Flu) of 2009. Dr. Niman points out several interesting and alarming things...

This virus indeed includes DNA elements of as follows: 1 human flu, 2 swine flu and 1 avian flu.

This flu cocktail is following the path of the 1918 flu which killed many. The 1918 flu begain in the Spring, then became relatively dormant during the hotter weather of the summer, and then became virulent during the Fall and Winter. It was during the Fall and Winter that it did most of the damage.

You can replay the recorded interview. You will find it at the links below. Pay particular attention to the discussion from minutes 18-22.

Dr. Niman states that he is concerned about what the Fall and Winter will bring....


http://www.trunews.com/index.htm

http://www.trunews.com/listen_now.htm



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[maric]

Everything you have said is true, Maric, but it is encouraging that this strain lacks the gene that makes it deadly (like the 1918 flu). No?

Yes Padre, and I pray it stays that way.

 

[Milk-maid]

The MSM is starting to get bored with the story...
Focus groups are telling TV and radio stations that there is too much swine flu coverage.

That's right, the media and everyone else has the attention span of a Knat. We all do. It's the ADD. If we don't get instant results, instant death tolls, instant relief, we move on to the next story.

MM

 

[Cascadians]

It has eased because everybody knows the only way to get swine flu is to have intimate relations with hogs. This has exposed just how many are conducting affairs with a pig. The WHO sees no evidence of H2H sustained transmission, only bestiality. That may change if they ever get caught up on all those samples, which they're too busy to bother taking anymore.

 

[Caplock50]

Believe me...it's *not* over. It is just taking a short breather for its next step/stage. It is here, the killer version. That kid that died in Houston, he and his family brought it here,...and now that version *is* spreading. It's not spreading and killing like it did at first only because so many are now aware of it and are taking precautions...but how long will those precautions continue to work? Not long at all, not near long enough.

 

[rodeorector]

We'll see the peak of the first round by the middle of the week. This will tell us for sure how deadly it is going to be in this initial occurence. By fall we may have much bigger problems, but maybe we'll have a vaccine then.