…… What is a really good solar powered light for use in a prolonged power outage?

Barry Natchitoches

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Like many of you, I have an ample supply of flashlights and cheap, emergency lanterns to last a few days - probable a couple of weeks, in a bad case scenerio.

But disposable batteries get to be pretty expensivE pretty quickly.

Not all of us can afford a diesel or solar powered generator.

If the grid were to go down for an extended period of time, what are cost effective solar lights , or other options, that those of us with limited budgets could stock up on now.?

Thank you in advance for your insights and suggestions.
 

Peter

Senior Member
What is your budget?
1 100 W panel, inverter & car battery would provide a lot of capability including charging batteries that coupd power standard flashlightS, headlamps, led indoor lights etc. Couple hundred dollars for all of above. Pure solar powered landscape lights at $25 a pair on amazon have been helpful too.
 

nomifyle

TB Fanatic
Not the best light, but pick up some solar outdoor lights from Dollar Tree. A few of those to use for areas that don’t need huge amounts of light. Charge them outside and then bring them in at night.
The ones from the Dollar tree don't last very long.
 

WOS

Senior Member
Again not the best quality, but usable, Home depot has this type of solar light for about 6$. At 14 lumens output, it's about the brightest solar path light I could find. 1 or 2 of these will provide a reasonable light output to navigate a fair size room by... Also, if you want to get fancy and creative, a PVC pipe cap of 3 or 4 inches in size and a couple of other bits makes a decent base.

 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
Not the best light, but pick up some solar outdoor lights from Dollar Tree. A few of those to use for areas that don’t need huge amounts of light. Charge them outside and then bring them in at night.
a most excellent suggestion. . . solar path way lights - the larger ones in particular - 10-14 lumens will give you a surprising amount of light - easily enough to read by - and you can cary it around the house safely. they have an on off switch so you can conserve batteries. the larger floods - up to 50 lumens - are easily able to light the better portion of a room. do an on line search of home desperate - Solar - Outdoor Lighting - Lighting - The Home Depot you'll be surprised at the readily available number of cheap, affordable and SAFE solutions to ward off the darkness.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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This isn't a smart aleck reply but a real issue that Hubby and I have considered and worked out. In a prolonged power outage we'd simply have to change the way we do things. Up by sunrise, to bed by sunset, and all the work has to get done between those two points.

It sounds a simple solution. It is and it isn't, especially given how much work had to be accomplished during the day. But it is the way things were prior to the introduction of reliable electrical lights that altered our daytime/night time behaviors.
 

Kennori

Contributing Member
Get a 100 watt solar panel from India 68.00$, a couple12 volt batteries, connectors, and a solar panel controller 35.00$. Get some 12-volt light bars for off-road trucks, lots of options. You can charge your cell phone, computer, run a few lights and probably a radio for a few hours a day. Get 10 solar panels, a bank of marine batteries in series, an inverter for 110 v, and you can power a fridge, well pump, lots of lights, TV's, and selectively low amp appliances as needed. There are designs and wiring diagrams on the net and you don't have to involve the grid at all. It stays separate so no one gets hurt.
 

Jeep

Veteran Member
What I have and use as an emergency light and out tent camping is off Amazon. ABZXT Solar Powered Lamp, it comes with a small solar panel to recharge the battery. A hook where you can hang it and it actually works very well, read the reviews on Amazon. $20 for a pair of 2, and it does give off enough light that I can read by. It is an LED light and on a full charge will run about 6 or 7 hours. For a quicker charge than solar, I plug my cell phone charged into the light and using AC power it will charge in about 3 hours, in full sunlight it takes about 6 hours to charge. But it also will charge in low light too.
 

Infoscout

The Dude Abides
I am not sure if this will help or not, but I have switched over to a few flashlights that charge by USB, instead of 123 battery or Aa or AAA batteries. Even if the power is out you can charge these with your car, which is an invaluable resource for power outages. Your car is your first big out bag!
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Depends on what you want...quick search on Amazon: $19 to $40 or the skies the limit.

Just remember the small batteries in these type lights don't last very long. If used every day I wouldn't count on getting much more than a year out of them...
And you don't get much light out of either solar walkway/landscape lights or solar camping lights....except maybe to find the bathroom door, keep from stubbing your toe or tripping over the dog. They are not work lights, cook-by lights, card-playing lights or reading lights.

Probably the best "easiest" bets are those shed lights with the larger solar panel and higher lumen output.

Lumens to Watts Conversion Chart


100 Lumens = 7 Incandescent Watts

375 = 25

450 = 30

800 = 60

1100 = 75

1600 = 100

2600 = 150

3000 = 200
 

LoupGarou

Ancient Fuzzball
My personal choice on the flashlight side is most of the Fenix units. On the "light" (as in area light) side, The USB Touchlight made by Voltaic Systems:

Unfortunately since Amazon also sells them, they are frequently waiting for the next batch to be made. Wait and buy them direct as a 5 pack, much cheaper.

They are a nice small (waterproof) touchlight that you can dim down to 20 lumens or as high as 200. If I use them with on of my small Lithium power packs (5000mAH), it will run the light on constant high for about 8 hours, and on low for 4 days. Normally, I use it with my refurbished Goal Zero Sherpa 50s and they run a week on "medium" and for almost 4 weeks on low. Low is enough light at night to light the room and not trip over the dog or cat, or enough light to read a message by.
 

lanningro

Veteran Member
In the kitchen, my Wife has family knick-knacks, do-dads and gee-gaws on top of the top most cabinets. A couple of years ago she ran a string of LED Christmas lights to illuminate these treasures for all to see.

The amazing thing was the amount of light produced for just a couple of watts. I have heard in hurricane country its standard practice and with some thinking they will run forever on a 12 volt battery.
 

Quiet Man

Nothing unreal exists
If the grid were to go down for an extended period of time, what are cost effective solar lights , or other options, that those of us with limited budgets could stock up on now.?

Thank you in advance for your insights and suggestions.
Hi Barry, what do you want to be able to accomplish with it?

Like many folks, I have a number of 1 and 2 cell lithium-powered hand flashlights, but I also have a couple small solar panels and MPPT charge controller that charge 1 or 2 50AH sealed lead-acid batteries. This powers a LED light strip with a PWM dimmer control. This produces a wide range of lighting levels to meet various needs. I also use it to power a few DC/DC converters with USB output so I can charge phones, tablets and the like. The size and cost of each of these components can be adjusted to meet individual needs/budget. Also, parts can be purchased over time as money allows.

If needed, these batteries can also be hauled around and connected to a small inverter to produce AC anywhere I need it.

All this is completely separate from a whole-house solar power system, and can be picked-up and moved with relative ease.
 
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Thinwater

Firearms Manufacturer
All flashlights are solar powered if you have a solar panel, car battery and inverter.

Get rechargeable batteries for whatever lights that you like and a couple of chargers. Two is one, one is none and more is better. Small inverters are cheap so get extra. The battery from your out of gas car (post shtf) will work as back up.
 

Knighttemplar

Veteran Member
We have used Luci lights and liked them. The cheap way is the use rv fixtures and 12v rv led lights. You can build a 12v charging system cheap with an old lawn mower, alternator, and an old 12v battery or use solar.
 

caddyshack

Contributing Member
My personal choice on the flashlight side is most of the Fenix units. On the "light" (as in area light) side, The USB Touchlight made by Voltaic Systems:

Unfortunately since Amazon also sells them, they are frequently waiting for the next batch to be made. Wait and buy them direct as a 5 pack, much cheaper.

They are a nice small (waterproof) touchlight that you can dim down to 20 lumens or as high as 200. If I use them with on of my small Lithium power packs (5000mAH), it will run the light on constant high for about 8 hours, and on low for 4 days. Normally, I use it with my refurbished Goal Zero Sherpa 50s and they run a week on "medium" and for almost 4 weeks on low. Low is enough light at night to light the room and not trip over the dog or cat, or enough light to read a message by.
These are amazing - bought a five pack on Loup’s last recommendation and when paired up with a usb power bank make an awesome combination
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
My unsolicited opinion of solar lights - you don't get nuthin' for free. The solar-powered sector of products hasn't jelled enough yet.

It's the same problem for larger solar systems...the battery tech isn't there yet, and you need a lot of square footage to collect enough energy to charge them to usefulness. Durability and longevity also lacking. At least now with LEDs, we have low-draw light producers, but conveniently powering them to a practical level with solar is still a dodgy situation.
 
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RememberGoliad

Veteran Member
These, available on Amazon, are 'da chit', as they say. Probably even better now than back in '16 when I bought four of them. During Harvey, we were without power for 19 days. These little critters, we hung the solar panel in a window, on the inside facing out, and with a cup hook in the ceiling we hung the 'bidness end' of it as far in as the wire would reach and down far enough for me to reach the on/off button on the top of the bulb.

The four light sources, strategically hung in the various rooms, gave off plenty of light to do most chores. Not enough to sit and read a book, but enough to navigate without using shins as braille readers, and locate something on a table or shelf. It was about the level of light where you'd say "dang, it's getting dark, should I turn on a light?"

As far as longevity, they come on automagically at dusk and off at dawn if you let them, but they also have a on/off switch on the top of the bulb looking unit. They were good for 2-3 hours in the evening, and again as needed to get up and make necessary trips at night, then for an hour or so before dawn. They'll go off themselves when there's enough solar power to start charging the battery. At least that's the way the ones I got were set up. Keep in mind it's been 7 years since I got mine. That may mean some features have changed. Probably does mean they're better-made than Chinkiecrap of the mid 20-teens, as there have been advances in tech.

<<Editing to add that during Harvey's after period, when they were hung where needed with no thought of which direction the window faced that we hung the charging panel in, I did not notice any diminished production from one to another. The north-facing chargers did not run out on us. I did not do any controlled testing, so I don't know if there was a difference or if we just did not reach the point that it was noticeable. What I'm thinking is that the little boogers had plenty of light to recharge, even pointing the 'wrong' direction. >>

I'm probably gonna order a 2-pack of these, as we gave the 4 we had to family when we left the coast, and I didn't even think about replacing them except briefly during the Valentine's mess in '21, when we had no internet to do anything about it, but then....SQUIRREL! So thanks, Barry, for bringing this back to the front for me!
 

Sacajawea

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I've been using D. Lights - inside & out - for years now. There are two brightness settings. I can hang it above my stove for cooking & it's plenty of light to see/read by. Last I got some, they were $20 each.

I REALLY liked the WeatherRite camping lanterns, because their duration on a good sunny charge was pretty long. But they're no longer available.
 

Deeb

Member
We have used Luci lights and liked them.

Love these. I have some nearing ten years old that are still working fine after use for power outages (we're rural and are the last to come back on so if it's out it's sometimes a week)...also use them camping. I have the bright ones for whole room task lighting and the warm whites for reading. They provide great light for reading, navigating about the house even on low.
 

FreedomoftheHills

Contributing Member
I've been using these as my reading/navigating around the house lights for 10 years. I have 3 of them. I ran the wires through the yurt wall so the panels can be outside on poles, lights inside. The oldest is 10 years old, gets cycled daily, and is still going strong. I can't reccomend them enough!

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bracketquant

Veteran Member
Like many of you, I have an ample supply of flashlights and cheap, emergency lanterns to last a few days - probable a couple of weeks, in a bad case scenerio.

But disposable batteries get to be pretty expensivE pretty quickly.

Not all of us can afford a diesel or solar powered generator.

If the grid were to go down for an extended period of time, what are cost effective solar lights , or other options, that those of us with limited budgets could stock up on now.?

Thank you in advance for your insights and suggestions.
A good and timely question, Barry. But first are you set up for heating, if the grid goes down for an extended time?

My priorities would be shelter (including the right clothing), water, food, and medicine (if needed), first.

Right after that, heat.

After that, lighting, which may be a borderline luxury item.

And, then there is the item that may be of an extreme shortage. Trusting people that will help each other make it through the unknown.
 

FreedomoftheHills

Contributing Member
A good and timely question, Barry. But first are you set up for heating, if the grid goes down for an extended time?

My priorities would be shelter (including the right clothing), water, food, and medicine (if needed), first.

Right after that, heat.

After that, lighting, which may be a borderline luxury item.

And, then there is the item that may be of an extreme shortage. Trusting people that will help each other make it through the unknown.
No, lighting is not a luxury item...how are you going to see to feed your woodstove, dress a wound, prepare a meal or perfrom other critical functions if you can't produce light?
 

bracketquant

Veteran Member
No, lighting is not a luxury item...how are you going to see to feed your woodstove, dress a wound, prepare a meal or perfrom other critical functions if you can't produce light?
I'll do it the way they did it for hundreds, if not thousands of years.

Many people didn't have the luxury of continuously burning candles each and every night. Also, many likely didn't have an oil lamp. Enough of the homeless today have no light sources.

My woodstove gives off enough glow where I'm able to feed it, without an additional light source.

One shouldn't go stumbling around in the dark, getting a flesh wound, in the first place.

One prepares a meal in the daytime. It's called "pre"-paring for a reason.

Critical functions (there really aren't many of them when you think about not living in modern times) shouldn't done in the dark.

One critical function may be not showing others that you have light, when the rest of your area is in dark. It could bring uninvited visitors.

Life then slows down to the rising and setting of the sun, to get done what needs to be done in that time frame. When NIGHT falls, one lies down content in what was accomplished in the time given us for that DAY.
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
This isn't a smart aleck reply but a real issue that Hubby and I have considered and worked out. In a prolonged power outage we'd simply have to change the way we do things. Up by sunrise, to bed by sunset, and all the work has to get done between those two points.

It sounds a simple solution. It is and it isn't, especially given how much work had to be accomplished during the day. But it is the way things were prior to the introduction of reliable electrical lights that altered our daytime/night time behaviors.
You are so right. It will be a life style change.

Have lived with grandparents who lived in an old log cabin, while on vacation who only had the one bulb hanging in the middle of the room, and I was to short to reach it at 8 YO, so did a lot at night without a light. Even when in the Army. Granted you're not typing on a type writer and doing a term paper (that's what the fireplace is for LOL) but for what you need to be up at night for like using the bathroom, outside, and the like, you'll get use to it with your eyes to see well enough in most cases. And when not as they did out on the Kansas prairie, Hurricane Lanterns. Hung them on the back of trains too.

For the home, it won't be on long. Cuz got to get up and feed the chickens at dawn. Other than using the bathroom, you might strike a lantern to see what is in the chicken coop, as you slip across the yard with your shotgun in a night shirt.

Back when I was 8 at my grandparents, we all would sit around on the front porch way after dark, just talking, and listening, and when we went to bed no one turned on a light. Walked inside, took off your clothes and went to bed in the dark.
 

bracketquant

Veteran Member
This isn't a smart aleck reply but a real issue that Hubby and I have considered and worked out. In a prolonged power outage we'd simply have to change the way we do things. Up by sunrise, to bed by sunset, and all the work has to get done between those two points.

It sounds a simple solution. It is and it isn't, especially given how much work had to be accomplished during the day. But it is the way things were prior to the introduction of reliable electrical lights that altered our daytime/night time behaviors.
It is and it isn't is so true. I really don't think any of us are 100 % fully prepared for unknown things that might occur.

You'll likely find that everything you thought that you had to accomplish will no longer be necessary. In a prolonged power outage, things will most likely change for just about everybody. Life will simply slow down. Walking or bicycling, maybe even using a horse and cart, instead of driving a motor vehicle, might be part of that life.

Reading/watching videos about how the Amish live, whether just for entertainment purposes, or for useful learning of skills, might be of interest to some, here.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
If willing to sell, PM me. Awesome.
They are out there to be had, and to be resurrected if folks are admirers and interested. Great hobby (infinite amount to be learned) for not a lot of $$ output.

I give them away to people (in person) on occasion, but shipping is a bigger effort than I'm willing to put out. Mostly just love to bring them back to life, use them and admire them.
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
It is and it isn't is so true. I really don't think any of us are 100 % fully prepared for unknown things that might occur.

You'll likely find that everything you thought that you had to accomplish will no longer be necessary. In a prolonged power outage, things will most likely change for just about everybody. Life will simply slow down. Walking or bicycling, maybe even using a horse and cart, instead of driving a motor vehicle, might be part of that life.

Reading/watching videos about how the Amish live, whether just for entertainment purposes, or for useful learning of skills, might be of interest to some, here.

I agree. Think 1800's lifestyle. Even those who could afford oil lamps used them very sparingly. Lifestyles will have to change out of necessity.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
I agree. Think 1800's lifestyle. Even those who could afford oil lamps used them very sparingly. Lifestyles will have to change out of necessity.
Yup. I think of how my grandparents lived. Bring the lantern to the barn on dark winter mornings, a lamp on the table in the kitchen and one in the living room. Cook and work mostly in the daylight, go to bed not long after dark, because, lovely as it is, oil lamp/lantern light is barely good enough for handwork like knitting or for reading. Evening entertainment mostly listening to the radio powered by the battery that grandpa charged in the truck. Gads..I remember one of his most prized possessions was when he got a transistor radio with D batteries back in late 50's early 60's. They never did get a TV on the farm, even after they had electricity.
 

Deeb

Member
It is and it isn't is so true. I really don't think any of us are 100 % fully prepared for unknown things that might occur.

You'll likely find that everything you thought that you had to accomplish will no longer be necessary. In a prolonged power outage, things will most likely change for just about everybody. Life will simply slow down. Walking or bicycling, maybe even using a horse and cart, instead of driving a motor vehicle, might be part of that life.

Reading/watching videos about how the Amish live, whether just for entertainment purposes, or for useful learning of skills, might be of interest to some, here.

I agree. Think 1800's lifestyle. Even those who could afford oil lamps used them very sparingly. Lifestyles will have to change out of necessity.

If we ever go long term without power on a large scale in the US, the 1800s will look like a Utopian dream.
 
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