WAR War Zone: Portland.

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
It’s a gray area. But - Doug has expressed a tightly-reined-in willingness to use deadly force. That’s not good, both from a legal as well as self-control PoV. It’s critical that a person who is allowed to carry NEVER provoke or participate in a verbal or physical altercation. They have to be “clean as the driven snow” to survive the inevitable legal kerfluffle.

and its painfully SAD that is the absolute truth in the 1984, upside down and inside out, wrong is right and right is wrong, world we live in today.

best to GET OVER your ILLUSION of freedom, truth, justice and that mythical "may-have-existed-once-in-the-dim-past" concept known as RULE OF LAW . . . not here, not now and not for a long time
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
My personal barometer is two fold; first, the Nike and Apple stores. The Apple store seems to be permanently closed, withering painted wood panels around it. The Nike store just reopened a few days ago, but the business is pathetic. Nike did have about 25 kids lined up the first two days, but that might just be spacing issues. The second is the VIBE I get walking around during the DAY. I NEVER GO OUT AT NIGHT, BW, DENNIS, NEVER EVER EVER. The rioters come out at night, say after 9pm or so. The economic barometer tells me downtown Portland is a couple of grocery stores, some take out restaurants during the day, and that is all she wrote. I did see a hopeful sign at the Reagal theater pleading for people to show up when they reopen later in July. Like the 500 new cases are going to help brown go to phase 2. PORTLAND IS GOING ON TOTAL MASK MODE, indoors and outdoors within a week or so. Not me, so that may be a flash point later on.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Dennis, there are multiple other things that can, and likely will kill me long before I engage these fools. In fact, the reality is they will engage me first. I simply do not come in contact with them on either a daily or regular basis. I don't talk to them. I don't argue with them, or even try to convert them. I IGNORE THEM AS BEST I CAN. It is likely I will never deal with them in some kind of wild west shootout scenario, at least until after the November election. Finally, I stopped carrying my Buck knife, but still carry my Fox Pepper Spray, which I have carried for YEARS now, and is my "go to" first weapon.
I have a long list of things to do, from getting a real fannny pack for both my revolvers, going to the shooting range, getting insurance etc
My view now is we are in a 1 to 2 month eye of the storm moment and I plan to prep some more.
Now, BW and Dennis if I could just get some more gear I would be set.
Another thing is both my handguns are 6 shot revolvers and not nasty semi auto matics with 17 round mags. Further, my evil shotgun is 20 gauge and not twelve. The Marxist DA is going to have a hard time painting me as some kind of heavily armed, semi automatic blow holes in my neighbors front door by accident with a 12 gauge 00 buck type of guy.
I also use 38 special rounds, plus p for my Taurus 357 Magnum. Nope, I really have given this a lot of thought and that will pay off when I need to.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Yup. Downtown Rochester got destroyed 10-15 years ago now. No stores, no shopping, lots of empty spaces. Disgusting. The downtown here in St. Pete isn't like a regular downtown either, but it's not destroyed. People live there. I can get anything I need all along 4th Street North, or go to Target.

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The spin and lies being spewed are staggering. Peaceful demonstrators? Seriously? They threw a f^>;&**HAMMER at a cop.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
I know, amigo. I just want people to understand that all this "Portland Chaos" is very tightly focused in a relatively small area, say 4 blocks, and under 500 people, and from say 9pm, to 2am.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
I am now sitting at the corner of 4th and Yamhill, for the lsst two hours or so
I have not talked to anybody at all..People are walking by, most of them shoppers, but not a lot and not anywhere near what a normal Sunday was like last year.
4 crazies have wandered by, mumbling, screaming etc, but again, easy peasy, all normal. Spoke too soon. Just saw a white kid, on a bicycle, ride by, CARRYING A RED GALLON GAS CAN. Yep, Mzkitty, Doomer Doug has a good idea of what he needs the gas for. For God's sake he has Rap music playing full volume.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
I am now sitting at the corner of 4th and Yamhill, for the lsst two hours or so
I have not talked to anybody at all..People are walking by, most of them shoppers, but not a lot and not anywhere near what a normal Sunday was like last year.
4 crazies have wandered by, mumbling, screaming etc, but again, easy peasy, all normal. Spoke too soon. Just saw a white kid, on a bicycle, ride by, CARRYING A RED GALLON GAS CAN. Yep, Mzkitty, Doomer Doug has a good idea of what he needs the gas for. For God's sake he has Rap music playing full volume.

For tonight's festivities, no doubt.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
It goes without saying that the Federales will drag off any of them that firebombs anything with extreme response, like they might shoot them. Fewer people, but meaner and more vicious. It looks like Portland, or Little Beirut, as I heard the secret service say back on 2004 is going to be where the true Marxists are going to throw down, and the Federales are going to go head to head with them right back. Might be some dead bodies soon..
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Oh, a back the blue rally in downtown Portland would reaaaaaaally get things going at the tactical nuke level. If that kid dies, the lid comes off, hell it doesn't matter now. They got their wounded hero. The riots will start around 8 to 9 ish, Mzkitty, the gas for the fires is already here, just bring the marshmellows. :arg:
 

Pinecone

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Video of the event at link. (I watched the video. Unless the protester did something prior to the shooting, not caught on video, I think someone could be in trouble.)


Oregon leaders react after Portland protester injured, in serious condition
by KATU Staff
Sunday, July 12th 2020


PORTLAND, Ore. — Oregon leaders, including the governor, are denouncing the weekend violence by federal officers.

On Saturday night, protesters gathered in the area around the Mark O. Hatfield U.S. Courthouse, where federal agent were inside, according to Portland police.
PPB said that federal officers released tear gas and other crowd control munitions on the protesters in downtown.

Video that KATU News has obtained shows the moments when a protester, now identified as Donovan LaBella, is hit in the head with a projectile, reportedly sending him to the hospital.

A nursing supervisor at the hospital says that LaBella is in serious condition.
Gov. Brown has since released a statement, condemning the violence and events that took place in downtown Portland over the weekend.

"The events of last night at the federal courthouse were the tragic and avoidable result of President Donald Trump, for weeks, continuing to push for force and violence in response to protests," she said in a statement. "The cycle of violence must end. President Trump deploying armed federal officers to Portland only serves to escalate tensions and, as we saw yesterday, will inevitably lead to unnecessary violence and confrontation," Gov. Brown said in the statement sent to KATU News.


Senator Ron Wyden echoed similar sentiments as the governor in a statement posted online.

"The consequences of Donald Trump unilaterally dispatching [federal] law enforcement into U.S. cities played out in Portland [with] a peaceful protester shot in the head. Trump & Homeland Security must now answer why [federal] officers are acting like an occupying army?" Wyden said.

Senator Jeff Merkley has also since made his concerns known on Twitter.
"Given Trump’s misuse of force against protesters outside the White House and elsewhere, the deployment of federal agents in Portland raises serious concerns. We need answers," Merkley said.

Portland City Commissioner, Jo Ann Hardesty later released a full statement, as well.

"Last week, it was disconcerting to see militarized federal officers with war weapons embedded with the Portland Police Bureau and stationed around Portland. Since then their presence brought on an escalation of violence towards protesters – an extreme response to a movement challenging police violence. This reckless and aggressive behavior has now put someone in the hospital. This protester is still fighting for their life and I want to be clear: this should never have happened. If this continues a life will be taken and it won’t matter whether a federal officer or Portland Police officer did it – it won’t bring that person back.

While I absolutely condemn the federal troops’ presence in Portland and demand that they withdraw, I am not naïve enough to think that their withdrawal alone will solve the issue. Even prior to the federal troops entering Portland, reports and videos of police violently responding to protesters came out nightly. Watching things reach a boiling point, I sent an open letter to Chief Lovell asking him to de-escalate the events unfolding and to publicly explain his and the bureau’s response to the nightly protests.

While we need to continue to challenge systems of white supremacy, including the ‘ok’ symbol found in the window of the Hatfield Courthouse, we also need to examine and tackle our own responsibility and complacency in these systems. It is our police force that has been responding violently to protesters before the federal troops entered the stage. If Portland will not lead in de-escalating the situation then the federal troops will take lead, and we have already seen how dangerous that will be for Portlanders exercising their first amendment rights.


We have had more than enough. The federal troops need to withdraw immediately, and after that we have the hard task of picking up the pieces and responding to what the public and this movement asks of us."

KATU News has reached out to Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler and Portland Police Bureau for comments. We will update this story if we hear back.
 

Pinecone

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Like a raging wildfire, I think this might continue until the rains and snow arrive later this year.
 

KFhunter

Veteran Member
either way, his momma shoulda raised him better and his pops shoulda whupped his ass growing up

play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Weeeeee!!
 

Squid

Veteran Member
The freakin idiot helicopter parents have been sheltering these morons from responsibility and repercussions their entire lives.

Do we think these moron parents will wake up and say geez guess I screwed my kid up how could I messed this up so bad??!?

Nope they will helicopter on and Everyone else including you and me are the reason their moron children got a dose of life don’t cares.

The majority of society is saying stupid kid...

But it’s the silent forgotten majority.
 

Elza

Veteran Member
Video of the event at link. (I watched the video. Unless the protester did something prior to the shooting, not caught on video, I think someone could be in trouble.)


Oregon leaders react after Portland protester injured, in serious condition
by KATU Staff
Sunday, July 12th 2020


PORTLAND, Ore. — Oregon leaders, including the governor, are denouncing the weekend violence by federal officers.

On Saturday night, protesters gathered in the area around the Mark O. Hatfield U.S. Courthouse, where federal agent were inside, according to Portland police.
PPB said that federal officers released tear gas and other crowd control munitions on the protesters in downtown.

Video that KATU News has obtained shows the moments when a protester, now identified as Donovan LaBella, is hit in the head with a projectile, reportedly sending him to the hospital.

A nursing supervisor at the hospital says that LaBella is in serious condition.
Gov. Brown has since released a statement, condemning the violence and events that took place in downtown Portland over the weekend.

"The events of last night at the federal courthouse were the tragic and avoidable result of President Donald Trump, for weeks, continuing to push for force and violence in response to protests," she said in a statement. "The cycle of violence must end. President Trump deploying armed federal officers to Portland only serves to escalate tensions and, as we saw yesterday, will inevitably lead to unnecessary violence and confrontation," Gov. Brown said in the statement sent to KATU News.


Senator Ron Wyden echoed similar sentiments as the governor in a statement posted online.

"The consequences of Donald Trump unilaterally dispatching [federal] law enforcement into U.S. cities played out in Portland [with] a peaceful protester shot in the head. Trump & Homeland Security must now answer why [federal] officers are acting like an occupying army?" Wyden said.

Senator Jeff Merkley has also since made his concerns known on Twitter.
"Given Trump’s misuse of force against protesters outside the White House and elsewhere, the deployment of federal agents in Portland raises serious concerns. We need answers," Merkley said.

Portland City Commissioner, Jo Ann Hardesty later released a full statement, as well.

"Last week, it was disconcerting to see militarized federal officers with war weapons embedded with the Portland Police Bureau and stationed around Portland. Since then their presence brought on an escalation of violence towards protesters – an extreme response to a movement challenging police violence. This reckless and aggressive behavior has now put someone in the hospital. This protester is still fighting for their life and I want to be clear: this should never have happened. If this continues a life will be taken and it won’t matter whether a federal officer or Portland Police officer did it – it won’t bring that person back.

While I absolutely condemn the federal troops’ presence in Portland and demand that they withdraw, I am not naïve enough to think that their withdrawal alone will solve the issue. Even prior to the federal troops entering Portland, reports and videos of police violently responding to protesters came out nightly. Watching things reach a boiling point, I sent an open letter to Chief Lovell asking him to de-escalate the events unfolding and to publicly explain his and the bureau’s response to the nightly protests.

While we need to continue to challenge systems of white supremacy, including the ‘ok’ symbol found in the window of the Hatfield Courthouse, we also need to examine and tackle our own responsibility and complacency in these systems. It is our police force that has been responding violently to protesters before the federal troops entered the stage. If Portland will not lead in de-escalating the situation then the federal troops will take lead, and we have already seen how dangerous that will be for Portlanders exercising their first amendment rights.


We have had more than enough. The federal troops need to withdraw immediately, and after that we have the hard task of picking up the pieces and responding to what the public and this movement asks of us."

KATU News has reached out to Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler and Portland Police Bureau for comments. We will update this story if we hear back.
Piss on them and their indignation. Sorry commie bastards.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
This is why Portland will stay in the poop for years to come. None of our Marxist scum leaders said a thing when DOMESTIC TERRORISTS rampaged all through Portland, openly attacking police. We can no longer live with these traitors. The USA needs to be broken up permanently. :conf:
 

DragonBurrow

Contributing Member
I watch Portland unravel and thank the stars that the Denver protest theme is fizzling out. I actually die laughing because they have so few people the play now is to block a crosswalk. Not an intersection, sometimes they don’t even have enough for a crosswalk without using their bikes.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
They have video everywhere in that immediate area, so it is on video. The sequence likely was Marxist scum throws rock hammer, hits Federale agent on head and neck. Federales then light up crowd, likely the exact same person who threw hammer. Marxist scum then gets the ENTIRE Oregon leadership class to trash Trump. Finally, Trump will suddenly find the missing video, after he has sucked all of them into openly siding with Marxist Domestic scum. Watch and see.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
This lady is one lone voice in the wilderness? I can't tell you just how steeped in the marxist bullshit most of them are, you wouldn't believe it, and I'm not posting their rantings. The "kids" are this way because the "adults" are this way. They got a more massive dose all these decades than a lot of the rest of the country. I don't think there's any converting them or bringing them back. They were never normal to begin with. Like my friend here who totally berserked on me yesterday on the phone. There's just no way to reach them. I don't know what the answer is, but they won't stop. Ever.


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Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
The leadership class up here is going to end up completely destroying the economy at the state, county, and city level. They don't care about that since it allows them to strut about on the media stage spewing their Marxist drivel. I will take GREAT PLEASURE watching all these fools figure out the money is gone. The plan is to use all the defund money for their social games. The reality is there will be less money all around, lower tax collections and a general business collapse. Shesh, Oregon is going to be like California soon.
 

Pinecone

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The leadership class up here is going to end up completely destroying the economy at the state, county, and city level. They don't care about that since it allows them to strut about on the media stage spewing their Marxist drivel. I will take GREAT PLEASURE watching all these fools figure out the money is gone. The plan is to use all the defund money for their social games. The reality is there will be less money all around, lower tax collections and a general business collapse. Shesh, Oregon is going to be like California soon.
Only wetter and more dreary.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
Groan..... I knew I didn't want to see what went on in crazy Portland last night. Why isn't this scum cleaned off the streets? Why?

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Video. Here's a few comments. Read the rest of them too:

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The Toilet Thread (gag): :lol:

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*Ack* -- it's infected Brooklyn. I can't go on anymore right now.


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Again, see comments. Video:

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