WAR War Zone: Portland.

The Snack Artist

Veteran Member
The rioters have nothing to lose. Nothing. That is why they do illegal things because they have nothing to lose.
The people with guns have a lot to lose. They can (and would would) lose everything they have built up over their lives. If they were arrested it would cost them all their life savings to fight the law. They would lose it all and their children would receive nothing . So by acting they would destroy their own lives (which could likely be okay with with them) but would also hurt their children. So they do nothing unless it is a very last resort.
It is always the same. The bad guys have nothing to lose and the good guys have everything to lose.
Plenty of things can happen under the cover of darkness.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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I don't think a Matt Bracken response is necessary at this time. When they come for the residential homes, people are going to freak!
Necessary?

Only if the objective was to bring this $#it to a screeching halt.

Legal?

Not so much.


The Rule Of Law is being used by these communist revolutionaries, to it's fullest extent.

They stay just below the threshold for such a response.
 

The Snack Artist

Veteran Member
Necessary?

Only if the objective was to bring this $#it to a screeching halt.

Legal?

Not so much.


The Rule Of Law is being used by these communist revolutionaries, to it's fullest extent.

They stay just below the threshold for such a response.
It's hard to cry for a multinational corporation. It's much more relevant when it's YOUR small downtown square or your home. If the Coppers don't step in, you have every right to defend yourself. When the fascists marched through my small town the Coppers asked for public backup. Just show up in numbers. Things were peaceful. Not one thing broken. Except the hearts of the Fascists.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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It's hard to cry for a multinational corporation. It's much more relevant when it's YOUR small downtown square or your home. If the Coppers don't step in, you have every right to defend yourself. When the fascists marched through my small town the Coppers asked for public backup. Just show up in numbers. Things were peaceful. Not one thing broken. Except the hearts of the Fascists.
Small Town America, not a prime target...yet.

Riots in the main hot-spots would abate quickly with a more direct response.
 

Doomer Doug

Has No Life - Lives on TB
One of my rules is don't do stupid things, with stupid people, at stupid places. This beatdown happened at 4 am, in downtown, where this FOOL was running around, by himself, and got swarmed. Doomer Doug doesn't do STUPID CRAP like that, and if I did, I would be packing. Sorry, about the beatdown, but show some SITUATIONAL AWARENESS, like don't be on the f/^<%^ street. By yourself at 4 am, DUH!
 

hunybee

Veteran Member
Because, that's not how you win this. You let the populace wallow in the mire they have voted for. If they grow tired of it, they will vote in change. If not, let them be victims of their own stupidity.

Have you ever stepped in and tried to "save" a woman from her abusive husband? She will attack you and go back to him every time, even unto her own death.

Consequences. They are learning consequences of their actions for perhaps the first time in their lives. They will live or die by the next vote.

Never step in and try to save the enemy when it is destroying itself. It doesn't need, or want, your help.

And for all if that, I agree. The only exception i take to it us that not every person in that place voted for it, wants it, or supports it. When the voter fraud is off the charts, the local and state gov is pandering to and helping the destroyers, you are just caught in it.

To use your analogy, no. I would ask the woman if she wants help, but then back off if she said no. But what about the kids? They have no say in it and did not ask for it. For that matter, what about the neighbors that now have the husband out shooting at his wife as she runs around, and throwing molatovs at her. What about the neighbors that didn't marry him, or want him there, or want to see and hear all that, but now THEIR homes are on fire and the husband's friends have all stated showing up to help him and start burning, beating, raping, and destroying?
 
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David Nettleton

Veteran Member
Small Town America, not a prime target...yet.

Riots in the main hot-spots would abate quickly with a more direct response.
May be right, Millwright. However, Sioux City, Iowa with a population of around 85K saw it differently about a week after Floyd's death. Several hundred juveniles and some adults led by BLM organization activists marched for several days. Tore up the downtown area right by our police station. Much public and private property destruction. Police officers injured. Terrorized our citizens.

*Local media: Now we must separate the peaceful demonstrators from the bad ones, and let the children express their feelings. From about 1:00 P.M. (when they got out of bed from the previous night's marches) to the wee hours of the morning, marching and vandalism with the threat of "no justice no peace."
 

hunybee

Veteran Member
I love how they are now trying to say it is all being done by the white people coming in and rioting and destroying, and that the black people don't want this.

Bull shit

I see a REAL good amount of color doing it and Instigating it.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
I love how they are now trying to say it is all being done by the white people coming in and rioting and destroying, and that the black people don't want this.

Bull shit

I see a REAL good amount of color doing it and Instigating it.
Yes, and a lot of them (black and white) are paid actors from what I've been reading around. There were ads placed before all this asking for them. What I'm wondering is: Is "Antifa" a bunch of actors who in reality are not only paid, but the "police" force Bams used to talk about creating? I wouldn't put it past them. What I've also been reading around is that "Antifa" really isn't a thing. Unbelievable, isn't it? The lies are all around. Big ones.

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Doomer Doug

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Gang, Doomer Doug is going combat hard. I just took the online concealed handgun carry test, registered, paid the $55 fee, saved the certificate PDF, plus created a word doc, control c, then control v, select and transfer. Checked the visa prepaid, showed pending, so good. Did get a 404 error when I tried to confirm, maybe the covid crap for email. Anyway, the actual process, osp background check, finger print id etc picture may not being done now. Might just print out.the certificate and start carrying anyway. I had THREE OSP BACKGROUND CHECKS IN THE LAST 6 MONTHS.
 

Doomer Doug

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Yeah, even the uber liberals, the black leadership are pissed off. You got white, punk antifa type kids, destroying BLACK OWNED BUSINESS, to protest the murder of a black man, by a white cop. :dstrs:
 

Doomer Doug

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I sent an email saying I got an error message about setting up my account, and I got an email back from one of the tech workers, Then we started emailing back and forth some. So, he is going to make my case a renewal, since I had it from 1994 to 2002 the first time. I got to print out the application form, and pay them a $50 check. He is going to void the $55 visa debit. All in all, I might have my permit as before July 4th depending on how fast the mail is. Anyway, I need to print out the application form, but I don't have a printer, the library computers are still in a closed library. May have to use the apartment printer in the office. Or submit it electronically, and then send a check, or whatever. As soon as he figured out I was downtown, he expedited it since everybody normal in Portland realizes downtown is totally out of control. The Leo's know they are being screwed by the politicians and hate it, or will be quitting soon. I will call them on Monday, or email him again to see precisely what I need to do.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Dude, you’ve spent thousands on guns and PMs. Don’t even TRY to say you don’t have $70 for a printer.

Bullshit. Get your ass onto the BestBuy website and buy one.
 

bcingu

Contributing Member
I just dont get it. Where are all the guns everyone is so proud to own? 3 %, proud boys, militias, police. Your famous Trump you all on here are so fond of. Thought he was going to stop this shit. Doomer Doug. He is always bragging he is armed to the teeth. Dont sound like he would have much to lose by taking out a few dozen of these creeps. They want a war when are you all going to give them one?
Go ahead flame away.
We are standing in ever increasing numbers against this ridiculous childish destruction. We are done with this PC crap and will not bend a knee. We are ready and when the time comes we will do what needs to be done. BLM and ANTIFA are making huge mistakes saying we are coming to the suburbs and rural areas to exact their terrorism. BLM is demanding the following, reparations, the rounding up of white males to be placed in work camps, Whites to forfeit their property and jobs to BLM, gender neutral bathrooms, gender neutral speech, SJW's, soy boys, the rewriting of history, the removal of statues and the shrieking feminazi's in our face screaming we are racist, sexist, pigs that should be put down.

What you and these shrieking children don't understand is the only thing keeping us from knocking their teeth out when they get in our face is the KNOWLEDGE that the police will arrest us and the courts will convict us and we will go to prison charged with a hate crime. But now the democrats are defunding the police. They think our inaction when they demand we go to the back of the line because we have to level the playing field so they can pretend to do what we do is out of fear of them. Nothing could be farther from the truth. The only thing we are afraid of is losing our freedom over some hysterical screaming thing that doesn't like us because we remind them of how stupid and weak they really are. The police know we are there to protect them and our communities. It could be minutes, hours, or days when were called by oath's long ago given yet, still fresh in our mind's.

Trump will win. Let the left loose their mind's. Let them try to burn everything down. There will be NO ONE to protect them and we will demonstrate the difference between their imaginary ability to stand toe to toe with us and reality. If Biden wins we will have no choice. Either way this will be no holds barred fight to the finish.

I will point out these 3%er's get up at 03:00 on their day of to sit in a tree stand, duck blind, or etc....in 20 degree weather for just a chance to shot something. Yet probably pass up that shot, not wanting hunting season to end so fast with a kill on the first day.
 
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