[VOTE]Machine errors Give BUSH extra OHIO votes.

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Machine Error Gives Bush Extra Ohio Votes

Fri Nov 5, 6:04 PM ET

By JOHN McCARTHY, Associated Press Writer

COLUMBUS, Ohio - An error with an electronic voting system gave President Bush (news - web sites) 3,893 extra votes in suburban Columbus, elections officials said. Franklin County's unofficial results had Bush receiving 4,258 votes to Democrat John Kerry (news - web sites)'s 260 votes in a precinct in Gahanna. Records show only 638 voters cast ballots in that precinct. Bush's total should have been recorded as 365.

Bush won the state by more than 136,000 votes, according to unofficial results, and Kerry conceded the election on Wednesday after saying that 155,000 provisional ballots yet to be counted in Ohio would not change the result.

Deducting the erroneous Bush votes from his total could not change the election's outcome, and there were no signs of other errors in Ohio's electronic machines, said Carlo LoParo, spokesman for Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell.

Franklin is the only Ohio county to use Danaher Controls Inc.'s ELECTronic 1242, an older-style touchscreen voting system. Danaher did not immediately return a message for comment.

Sean Greene, research director with the nonpartisan Election Reform Information Project, said that while the glitch appeared minor "that could change if more of these stories start coming out."

In one North Carolina county, more than 4,500 votes were lost in this election because officials mistakenly believed a computer that stored ballots electronically could hold more data than it did.

And in San Francisco, a malfunction with custom voting software could delay efforts to declare the winners of four races for county supervisor.

In the Ohio precinct in question, the votes are recorded to eight memory locations, including a removable cartridge, according to Verified Voting Foundation, an e-voting watchdog group. After voting ends, the cartridge is either transported to a tabulation facility or its data sent via modem.

Kimball Brace, president of the consulting firm Election Data Services, said it's possible the fault lies with the software that tallies the votes from individual cartridges rather than the machines or the cartridges themselves.

Either way, he said, such tallying software ought to have a way to ensure that the totals don't exceed the number of voters.

County officials did not return calls seeking details.

Matthew Damschroder, director of the Franklin County Board of Elections, told The Columbus Dispatch that on one of the three machines at that precinct, a malfunction occurred when its cartridge was plugged into a reader and generated a faulty number. He could not explain how the malfunction occurred.

Damschroder said people who had seen poll results on the election board's Web site called to point out the discrepancy. The error would have been discovered when the official count for the election is performed later this month, he said.

The reader also recorded zero votes in a county commissioner race on the machine.

Other electronic machines used in Ohio do not use the type of computer cartridge involved in the error, state officials say.

But in Perry County, a punch-card system reported about 75 more votes than there are voters in one precinct. Workers tried to cancel the count when the tabulator broke down midway through, but the machine instead double-counted an unknown number in the first batch. The mistake will be corrected, officials say.

Meanwhile, in San Francisco, a glitch occurred with software designed by Election Systems & Software Inc. for the city's new "ranked-choice voting," in which voters list their top three choices for municipal offices. If no candidate gets a majority of first-place votes outright, voters' second and third-place preferences are then distributed among candidates who weren't eliminated in the first round.

When the San Francisco Department of Elections tried a test run Wednesday, some of the votes didn't get counted. The problem was attributed to a programming glitch that limited how much data could be accepted, a threshold that did not account for high voter turnout.


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USDA

Veteran Member
The constant news of voting irregularities are all over the web...not all of them 'sour grapes.'

But Kerry caved in pretty quickly...probably busy counting his gold bars as pay off.

Really it is better that George won it...fair or not...now we have more time for the uneducated and misinformed electorate to reverse that ignorance as their world winds down into first economic hell...then maybe the shooting kind.

Me...I hate em all...although hate is too stronger word...it implies some kind of love gone wrong...indifference in face of destiny would be better.
 

expose'

The Pulse......
Deducting the erroneous Bush votes from his total could not change the election's outcome, and there were no signs of other errors in Ohio's electronic machines, said Carlo LoParo, spokesman for Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell.

What part of this statement do you not understand?

Franklin County's unofficial results had Bush receiving 4,258 votes to Democrat John Kerry (news - web sites)'s 260 votes in a precinct in Gahanna. Records show only 638 voters cast ballots in that precinct. Bush's total should have been recorded as 365.

Did anyone happen to notice that Bush was leading Kerry in this county anyway?? :rolleyes:
 

mistaken1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The average democrat :sheep: will only hear:

"Machine Error Gives Bush Extra Ohio Votes"

NOT:

"Deducting the erroneous Bush votes from his total could not change the election's outcome, and there were no signs of other errors in Ohio's electronic machines".



Four more years of whining and the "we must come together" ploy. I think Bush should reach out to lib er uhh socialists in the exact same way Clinton reached out to conservatives.
:bwl: :bwl: :bwl: :bwl: :bwl: :bwl: :bwl: :bwl: :kk2:

The bottom line is they are two sides of the same coin and globalist integration will continue unabated no matter how we feel about it (unless of course the entire country went on strike from Thanksgiving to New Years day, then the NWO will either listen or attack to punish the upstart cattle who are protesting their own slaughter).
 

imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
"Deducting the erroneous Bush votes from his total could not change the election's outcome"


"Sean Greene, research director with the nonpartisan Election Reform Information Project, said that while the glitch appeared minor "that could change if more of these stories start coming out.""

Does anyone have an official number of the provisional ballots?

I've heard 150,000

165,000

175,000

and 250,000

These will be counted on Nov 12 and then Ohio's vote will be final
 

rescath

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mistaken1 said:
The average democrat :sheep: will only hear:

"Machine Error Gives Bush Extra Ohio Votes"

NOT:

"Deducting the erroneous Bush votes from his total could not change the election's outcome, and there were no signs of other errors in Ohio's electronic machines".

You entirely miss the point. If this "glitch" was possible, what other glitches may have occurred. Look at the "Election Fraud" thread in the Election 2004 forum. There's reason to be suspicious of this "glitch". EVERY single time that these glitches emerge, they ALWAYS favor the Republicans. Strange coincidence, since the voting companies are all strongly tired to the Republican party. Don't you think?

PS -- I'm NOT a Democrat. I'm just a concerned citizen worried about being taken over by a tyrant. I would find it even more repugnant if Kerry would emerge the winner than that Bush has.
 

rescath

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imaginative said:
"Deducting the erroneous Bush votes from his total could not change the election's outcome"


"Sean Greene, research director with the nonpartisan Election Reform Information Project, said that while the glitch appeared minor "that could change if more of these stories start coming out.""

Does anyone have an official number of the provisional ballots?

I've heard 150,000

165,000

175,000

and 250,000

These will be counted on Nov 12 and then Ohio's vote will be final

BINGO. What if more glitches come out. Kerry's concession has no legal bearing on the final outcome. I've heard as high as 400K provisionals. Correct a bunch of these "glitches" and count the provisionals, what if Kerry comes out the winner? Chaos would ensue.

These "glitches" stink to high heaven.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
[There is no free and fair election as long as ENTIRELY UNVERIFIABLE, ARBITRARY NUMBERS STAND TO REPRESENT THE COUNT OF HOW PEOPLE VOTED.

PERIOD!
 
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