BRKG US Embassy in Kabul: potential security threats outside, advising U.S. citizens to avoid traveling to the airport & avoid airport gates at this time
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night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Interesting you think Dien Bien Phu is going to be outclassed and Khartoum is in the running.
Just waiting for the bonfires.
Ain't gonna be able to run. So I'll just have to shoot until my pitiful pile of brass is under me rather than in hands.
Donna_in_OK
Veteran Member
I wonder if the Taliban wearing our uniforms is the security situation? Imagine being a US Citizen and going up to a soldier dressed in US Military uniform to realize he was the one hunting for you?
Taliban 2.0: ‘Special Forces’ Unit Patrolling Streets of Kabul Wear US Military Uniforms and Left Behind Body Armor
Taliban 2.0: ‘Special Forces’ Unit Patrolling Streets of Kabul Wear US Military Uniforms and Left Behind Body Armor
Cacheman
Ultra MAGA!
This is really sounding like an Obama-Valerie Jarrett-Susan Rice-Ron Klain operation to funnel arms, money etc to Iran and other terrorists and maybe for a bit of Benghazzi style add Hillary to the gang.
The Hammer
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Oh my word, I didn't think of that. But it makes sense with as much stuff as we left behind.
This is beyond ugly.
Melodi
Disaster Cat
This is now starting to make the mainstream media
news.sky.com
Breaking
Afghanistan: Sky News correspondent sees Kabul airport mayhem and then bodies covered in white sheets amid evacuation scramble
Stuart Ramsay
Chief correspondent @ramsaysky
Saturday 21 August 2021 15:15, UK
Play Video - People crushed to death at Kabul airport
People crushed to death at Kabul airport
The US embassy in Afghanistan has advised American citizens to avoid traveling to Kabul's airport due to "potential security threats".
Sky's chief correspondent Stuart Ramsay is there and reports on what he saw on Saturday morning as thousands of people wait to get inside to be evacuated.
The mornings are always challenging on the barricades. The British soldiers know that after a night waiting for the evacuation process to restart the tens of thousands camped on the road leading to their base will try to rush their way through.
Image:British soldiers have been identifying those who need evacuation
Today it was different. Very different.
Today it turned chaotic in an instant.
Within minutes this was an emergency, nothing to do with process; the soldiers found themselves just trying to save lives.
Image:Soldiers were working flat out to try to manage the situation
At the front of the queue people were being crushed to death.
More on Afghanistan
Crushed, dehydrated, terrified.
Image:The scene turned chaotic on Saturday morning
Standing on top of the compound wall, soldiers sprayed the crowd with a hose - anything to cool them down.
We saw men, women, and lots and lots of children.
And then what we had all feared began to happen.
Image:Stuart Ramsay saw lots of men, women and especially children at the airport
Soldiers started shouting for medics and stretchers as unconscious people were carried to the rear. The medics checked their vital signs and then covered the bodies in white sheets.
"Is this a stabilised withdrawal from Afghanistan?" I thought.
It looks like death to me, death trying to reach freedom.
Image:Wherever Stuart Ramsay looked, there were soldiers pulling families out of the crowd to safety
In the mayhem, units rush through crowds to shore up weak points in the evacuation centre - everyone working flat out trying to stem the tide of an unfolding disaster.
It doesn't matter where you look it's the same desperation - American soldiers, British soldiers, Spanish soldiers, German soldiers, Polish soldiers, pulling children, whole families from the pens and the crowds they've been kept behind for processing.
Image:The Taliban takeover meant the planning was immediately out of date
It feels like these people fear their dreams of a flight out are ebbing away as each day passes.
The soldiers sometimes have to fire in the air for fear of losing control of the crowd.
But it seems unlikely a gunshot is ever going to calm the frightened down.
Image:A potential evacuee takes a drink
This evacuation was predicated on Kabul remaining in the hands of the government: it was always going to be speedy and difficult, but the Taliban's lightening takeover meant the planning was instantly out of date.
Looking back, putting the processing centre in place at the end of a long narrow street, publishing a press release saying the UK would take 20,000 Afghans without explicitly explaining it would be over the next five years, and then deploying a small group of soldiers given the job of processing people in the first instance while also maintaining military security - is morphing into a planning catastrophe.
Image:The scenes outside Kabul airport are distressing to many watching
If it's to be turned around they'll need more time but time is running out
Out here, pain and compassion meet every minute of every day now.
Afghanistan: Sky News correspondent sees Kabul airport mayhem and then bodies covered in white sheets amid evacuation scramble
The US embassy in Afghanistan has advised American citizens to avoid traveling to Kabul's airport due to "potential security threats".
news.sky.com
Afghanistan: Sky News correspondent sees Kabul airport mayhem and then bodies covered in white sheets amid evacuation scramble
Stuart Ramsay
Chief correspondent @ramsaysky
Saturday 21 August 2021 15:15, UK
Play Video - People crushed to death at Kabul airport
People crushed to death at Kabul airport
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The US embassy in Afghanistan has advised American citizens to avoid traveling to Kabul's airport due to "potential security threats".
Sky's chief correspondent Stuart Ramsay is there and reports on what he saw on Saturday morning as thousands of people wait to get inside to be evacuated.
The mornings are always challenging on the barricades. The British soldiers know that after a night waiting for the evacuation process to restart the tens of thousands camped on the road leading to their base will try to rush their way through.
Image:British soldiers have been identifying those who need evacuation
Today it was different. Very different.
Today it turned chaotic in an instant.
Within minutes this was an emergency, nothing to do with process; the soldiers found themselves just trying to save lives.
Image:Soldiers were working flat out to try to manage the situation
At the front of the queue people were being crushed to death.
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Crushed, dehydrated, terrified.
Image:The scene turned chaotic on Saturday morning
Standing on top of the compound wall, soldiers sprayed the crowd with a hose - anything to cool them down.
We saw men, women, and lots and lots of children.
And then what we had all feared began to happen.
Image:Stuart Ramsay saw lots of men, women and especially children at the airport
Soldiers started shouting for medics and stretchers as unconscious people were carried to the rear. The medics checked their vital signs and then covered the bodies in white sheets.
"Is this a stabilised withdrawal from Afghanistan?" I thought.
It looks like death to me, death trying to reach freedom.
Image:Wherever Stuart Ramsay looked, there were soldiers pulling families out of the crowd to safety
In the mayhem, units rush through crowds to shore up weak points in the evacuation centre - everyone working flat out trying to stem the tide of an unfolding disaster.
It doesn't matter where you look it's the same desperation - American soldiers, British soldiers, Spanish soldiers, German soldiers, Polish soldiers, pulling children, whole families from the pens and the crowds they've been kept behind for processing.
Image:The Taliban takeover meant the planning was immediately out of date
It feels like these people fear their dreams of a flight out are ebbing away as each day passes.
The soldiers sometimes have to fire in the air for fear of losing control of the crowd.
But it seems unlikely a gunshot is ever going to calm the frightened down.
Image:A potential evacuee takes a drink
This evacuation was predicated on Kabul remaining in the hands of the government: it was always going to be speedy and difficult, but the Taliban's lightening takeover meant the planning was instantly out of date.
Looking back, putting the processing centre in place at the end of a long narrow street, publishing a press release saying the UK would take 20,000 Afghans without explicitly explaining it would be over the next five years, and then deploying a small group of soldiers given the job of processing people in the first instance while also maintaining military security - is morphing into a planning catastrophe.
Image:The scenes outside Kabul airport are distressing to many watching
If it's to be turned around they'll need more time but time is running out
Out here, pain and compassion meet every minute of every day now.
Pentagon presser underway.
- Spokesdude refuses to answer reporter questions regarding the nature of today's threat.
- No U.S. operations "outside of the wire" have been conducted.
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jward
passin' thru
Normally, but it seems in this instance the puppet masters WANT the Biden
debacle to be the distraction, so hopefully he's the only blood libel we'll see
in this act of the current Kabuki production?
debacle to be the distraction, so hopefully he's the only blood libel we'll see
in this act of the current Kabuki production?
The Hammer
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Is it still Kirby? That dude looked unstable yesterday. Hopefully some sleep helped, but I doubt it...
jward
passin' thru
suddaf chaudry صدف شودري
suddafchaudry
23m
#BREAKING reports coming in from French intelligence that Isis Khorasan has entered #KabulAiport
suddafchaudry
23m
#BREAKING reports coming in from French intelligence that Isis Khorasan has entered #KabulAiport
He was as chipper as a puppy today until a reporter asked if the Sec-Def was going to step down.
jward
passin' thru
NTELSky
@Intel_Sky
5m
#BREAKING Pentagon spokesman: When it was said that Kabul was not facing an imminent danger, it was true, but things have changed dramatically. Another Failure...
@Intel_Sky
5m
#BREAKING Pentagon spokesman: When it was said that Kabul was not facing an imminent danger, it was true, but things have changed dramatically. Another Failure...
Melodi
Disaster Cat
Pentagon officials in press conference now - I missed the first part - on-going
The Hammer
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Wow, tough crowd. Why won't they ask questions about the great progress we're making?
Weps
Veteran Member
This footage is two days old, it was filmed by US personnel inside the Kabul airport along the flight line on the 19th;
View: https://youtu.be/kJkNTLncmWI
desertvet2
Veteran Member
This is what happens when you let reprobates represent a nation.
More concern about gay acceptance than what needs to be done.
Sick of them all. The agenda pushers.
More concern about gay acceptance than what needs to be done.
Sick of them all. The agenda pushers.
The Hammer
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Well, isn't that peachy keen?
Pentagon spokesdude will say they don't have an ISIS head count, but they'll look that up real quick...
mzkitty
I give up.
Merde.....
rob0126
Veteran Member
American and A'stan citizens could fall right into their hands if not paying attention.
I hope those responsible in DC get the firing squad for this. Filthy traitors.
Nowski
Let's Go Brandon!
That is exactly what is going to happen, sooner rather than later.
Nope. They will be re-elected or promoted. They are indeed filthy traitors,
however the vast majority of ZUSA citizens view them as heros.
Please be safe everyone.
Regards to all.
Nowski
Melodi
Disaster Cat
‘Trapped in hell’: Kabul airport chaos casts doubt on US promise of safe evacuation
There is no coherent system, and those who do make it to the airport face days stuck waiting to board flights
www.theguardian.com
There is no coherent system, and those who do make it to the airport face days stuck waiting to board flights
People wait at the airport in Kabul. The US has no figure for the exact number of people who need evacuating. Photograph: Anadolu Agency/Getty Images
Hannah Ellis-Petersen South Asia correspondent
Sat 21 Aug 2021 14.17 BST
In a voice quivering with fear and exhaustion, Sara pleaded down the phone: “Please, get us out of here. The situation is very bad, we are trapped in a hell.”
For the past four days, Sara, who asked for her real name not to be used, has waited with her family among the thousands of people outside the gates of Kabul airport, desperately trying to board a US evacuation flight.
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In the past few days, she said she had seen more than 15 people, including children, shot before her eyes, witnessed her uncle beaten brutally by Taliban fighters and had her nights on the hard street outside the airport gates interrupted by crowd surges and the panic-inducing crack of gunfire.
The crowds were packed in so tightly it was hard to breathe, and people had been trampled to death, she said, adding that the putrid stench of rubbish was getting worse by the day. They had run out of food and water. “My mental state is completely broken,” said Sara.
Sara and her four family members have all been issued US visas for evacuation from Afghanistan and received instructions in a letter from the US consul to go directly to Camp Sullivan, the US military base at Kabul airport, on 18 August. They were told to be prepared to wait hours, and bring bedding with them. But when they arrived on Wednesday, they found thousands blocking the entrance, and all the gates closed. They have not opened for them, and there has been no further information.
US soldiers stand guard behind barbed wire as Afghans sit on a roadside near the military part of the airport in Kabul. Photograph: Wakil Kohsar/AFP/Getty Images
“No one is allowed through, even with visas,” she said. “No one from the US is helping us. No one is telling us which gate to go to – we don’t even know when the US flights are leaving. There is violence everywhere but every gate we go to is closed and no one gives us any information or shows any mercy.”
Sara described how all around them, camped outside the airport gates, were many families with US visas, US passports or green cards, none able to reach an evacuation flight or get any information about their fate, their lives in the hands of Taliban soldiers who surround the airport. “It’s so scary here. There’s horror in everyone’s eyes,” she said.
Since the fall of Kabul last Sunday, the desperate scenes around the capital’s airport have become the defining images of the first week of Taliban rule. Thousands of people, many without papers, have continued to throng to the airport in a desperate attempt to flee. People have clutched on to plane wheels on the tarmac as aircraft took off, or fell to their deaths as stowaways. Babies and toddlers were passed over the shut airport gates to US soldiers on the other side, so desperate were Afghans for their children to escape the country.
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Afghanistan: chaos and gunshots outside Kabul airport during evacuations – video report
On Friday, the US president, Joe Biden, pledged the US would “provide safe evacuation for our Afghan allies, partners, and Afghans who might be targeted because of their association with the United States”. However, the scale of the chaos and dogged mishandling of the US evacuations at Kabul airport have cast doubt on that promise for many on the ground.
A United States Marine gives a child water at Hamid Karzai international airport, Kabul. Photograph: Rex/Shutterstock
There is no coherent system for the evacuations, and in the absence of information, the few who have managed to make it past Taliban checkpoints to get to the airport have remained for days, despite the volatile situation making it a highly dangerous place to be.
Taliban soldiers have been firing into the air and reportedly into the crowds. At least 15 people have been officially confirmed dead at the airport, but those at the scene said the number was much higher.
A family of Afghans who have had residency in the US since 2019, and had only returned to Kabul to briefly see family, were among those unable even to reach the airport gates, despite their visas. With a young son just 11 years old and a 14-year-old daughter, they had made an attempt to get to the US gates on Tuesday but the son was hit with shrapnel and they retreated.
“The US have told them they can be evacuated, but only if they can get through an airport gate,” said a close friend of the family based in the US. “But every day they have gone to the airport it’s been so crowded and violent, it’s not been possible to get the family through without a huge risk to their lives. The gates have not been opening.”
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Evacuation flights are departing, but slowly. On Friday, a US defence official said about 5,700 people, including about 250 Americans, were flown out of Kabul. But many of those stuck in Kabul with valid US visas have no idea how to get on a flight. The US has admitted it has no figure for the exact number of people who need evacuating.
Sara said the need for her family to be evacuated was urgent. With reports of the Taliban having compiled a “blacklist” of people and going door to door to find those who had collaborated with the US, Nato and western organisations, her family feared they too would be hunted: one relative had worked for the previous government regime in Kabul, others had been women’s rights activists. Sara herself is university educated.
The advice Sara’s family were given on Friday by a US government helpline was to remain at the airport and wait. “But it’s not safe for us here, the violence is increasing,” she said on Friday. Overnight the violence at the airport got even worse, and her relative was so badly injured when he was badly beaten with a rifle by Taliban fighters that by Saturday morning they had to flee back home. “We don’t know what to do now,” she said.
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Yup
Dien Bien Phu just blew off the table.
Khartoum is in play.
Meanwhile Dunkirk would have been nice.
Dien Bien Phu just blew off the table.
Khartoum is in play.
Meanwhile Dunkirk would have been nice.
jward
passin' thru
Sky News correspondent sees Kabul airport mayhem - and bodies covered in white sheets
The mornings are always challenging on the barricades, writes chief correspondent Stuart Ramsay.
The British soldiers know that after a night waiting for the evacuation process to restart the tens of thousands camped on the road leading to their base will try to rush their way through.
Today it was different. Very different.
Today it turned chaotic in an instant.
Within minutes this was an emergency, nothing to do with process; the soldiers found themselves just trying to save lives.
At the front of the queue people were being crushed to death.
The mornings are always challenging on the barricades, writes chief correspondent Stuart Ramsay.
The British soldiers know that after a night waiting for the evacuation process to restart the tens of thousands camped on the road leading to their base will try to rush their way through.
Today it was different. Very different.
Today it turned chaotic in an instant.
Within minutes this was an emergency, nothing to do with process; the soldiers found themselves just trying to save lives.
At the front of the queue people were being crushed to death.
jward
passin' thru
Investigate possible 'intelligence failure', says former MP
Dominic Grieve, former chairman of Parliament's Intelligence and Security Committee, has called for it to investigate whether an "intelligence failure" led to the chaotic withdrawal of allied forces.
Dominic Grieve, a former Conservative MP and attorney general, said: "I think if they had known this was going to happen, would the US withdrawal have proceeded in the way it did?
"It must be an intelligence failure that one should end up with thousands of people crowding into an airport seeking to leave a country when it has been triggered by military decisions by the United States as to how it was going to conduct its withdrawal."
Dominic Grieve, former chairman of Parliament's Intelligence and Security Committee, has called for it to investigate whether an "intelligence failure" led to the chaotic withdrawal of allied forces.
Dominic Grieve, a former Conservative MP and attorney general, said: "I think if they had known this was going to happen, would the US withdrawal have proceeded in the way it did?
"It must be an intelligence failure that one should end up with thousands of people crowding into an airport seeking to leave a country when it has been triggered by military decisions by the United States as to how it was going to conduct its withdrawal."
jward
passin' thru
Chaos intensifies at Kabul airport with 'at least three killed in crush' - reports
Sky's chief correspondent Stuart Ramsay is on the ground in Afghanistan, where he has described the "absolute pandemonium" unfolding at Kabul airport.
He says he witnessed three bodies being pulled out of a crush outside the airport, where the priority has changed quickly from processing Afghan evacuees to "saving lives".
Ramsay described British soldiers diving into a crowd of tens of thousands to pull out men, woman and children who are struggling to stay on their feet in the surge.
He said that Taliban fighters have assisted in picking up the bodies and taking them away from the desperate scenes.
"The Taliban have been very co-operative because this is more about crowd control than anything else", he added.
Sky's chief correspondent Stuart Ramsay is on the ground in Afghanistan, where he has described the "absolute pandemonium" unfolding at Kabul airport.
He says he witnessed three bodies being pulled out of a crush outside the airport, where the priority has changed quickly from processing Afghan evacuees to "saving lives".
Ramsay described British soldiers diving into a crowd of tens of thousands to pull out men, woman and children who are struggling to stay on their feet in the surge.
He said that Taliban fighters have assisted in picking up the bodies and taking them away from the desperate scenes.
"The Taliban have been very co-operative because this is more about crowd control than anything else", he added.
jward
passin' thru
Biden Effect: Americans Told NOT to Travel to Kabul Airport as Situation Deteriorates — Over 10,000 Americans Trapped in Afghanistan
By Jim Hoft
Published August 21, 2021 at 8:36am
On Friday bumbling Joe Biden lied to the American public saying, “We have no indication that they haven’t been able to get in Kabul through the airport. We made an agreement with the Taliban.
So far they’ve allowed them to go through.”
On Saturday the Biden administration warned Americans trapped in Afghanistan of potential security threats and not to travel to the Kabul Airport.
Here’s a recent video from outside the Kabul Airport.
And Afghans are still handing their babies to US soldiers at the Kabul Airport.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
By Jim Hoft
Published August 21, 2021 at 8:36am
On Friday bumbling Joe Biden lied to the American public saying, “We have no indication that they haven’t been able to get in Kabul through the airport. We made an agreement with the Taliban.
So far they’ve allowed them to go through.”
On Saturday the Biden administration warned Americans trapped in Afghanistan of potential security threats and not to travel to the Kabul Airport.
TRENDING: Media Turns Against Biden, But Tucker Isn't Buying It: "Something Else Is Going On"
Here’s a recent video from outside the Kabul Airport.
And Afghans are still handing their babies to US soldiers at the Kabul Airport.
Biden Effect: Americans Told NOT to Travel to Kabul Airport as Situation Deteriorates -- Over 10,000 Americans Trapped in Afghanistan | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft
On Friday bumbling Joe Biden lied to the American public saying, “We have no indication that they haven’t been able to get in Kabul through the airport.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
psychgirl
Has No Life - Lives on TB
biden acts and sounds like Baghdad Bob. Difference is Baghdad Bob had a brain.
Mike
jward
passin' thru
Aditya Raj Kaul
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Heartbreaking report by @ramsaysky from Kabul. Time is running out to help, he says.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1429145559881830404
View: https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1429145559881830404?s=20
@AdityaRajKaul
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Heartbreaking report by @ramsaysky from Kabul. Time is running out to help, he says.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1429145559881830404
View: https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1429145559881830404?s=20
Artificially Intelli
Senior Member
This entire debacle is just too stupid to be stupid. When the Deep State decides it's time to retire China Joe, the entire US and our allies will sigh in relief. Part of the plan?
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jward
passin' thru
Apex
@Apex_WW
CNN, quoting 2 US defense officials: US military is establishing “alternative routes” for people to get to #Kabul airport and access gates, because of a threat posed by ISIS-K to the airport and its surroundings. #Afghanistan
1:23 PM · Aug 21, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
dstraito
TB Fanatic
US Embassy in Kabul: potential security threats outside, advising U.S. citizens to avoid traveling to the airport & avoid airport gates at this time
The entire might of the US is defeated by a bunch of redneck mountain folks.
Any ally depending on the US for protection might be rethinking that
Another reason not to give up 2A
The entire might of the US is defeated by a bunch of redneck mountain folks.
Any ally depending on the US for protection might be rethinking that
Another reason not to give up 2A