RACE WAR United Air to Shake Up White Male Pilot Dominance

dvo

Veteran Member
LOL....affirmative action for my pilot, or MD? Sounds like a suicide plan to me. What we are going to do is ride this this once great country into the ground. Like a 757 in a plunge to the Earth. But...lemmings do run off a cliff. We are doing that.
 

ShadowMan

Crusty ol' Codger
Well that's another airline I won't fly. I don't care what race, creed, color, sex, whatever, the pilot is....I JUST WANT THE BEST AND MOST QUALIFIED PERSON FLYING THE PLANE!! Screw that woke BS!! If they can't cut the mustard they shouldn't be in the pilot's seat.

QUALITY over equality!!
 

Doc1

Veteran Member
According to United CEO Scott Kirby, "they simply don't have the access or the opportunity."

People Of Color have had a huge leg up in the military for many decades. Remember Colin Powell? Affirmative Action general. The airlines get a huge number of their pilots from the ranks of former military. If POC had some overwhelming desire - or had the aptitude - to be pilots, the military would have been churning them out by the thousands since the 1970s.

Want a color-blind employment environment (which was the supposed goal of the original civil rights movement)? Then make it color-blind! They won't and can't do it because too many POC simply don't have the intelligence, aptitude or desire to be pilots. As a result - as we've seen in so many other fields - there won't be a level playing field, but we'll see a canted playing field instead, with unearned advantages going to POC.

Do you want to fly on that airline?

Best
Doc
 

vestige

TB Fanatic
I quit air travel in 1980.

If I had even a hint of a "POC" pilot I wouldn't fly if they paid me $20,000 a trip.
 
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Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
Maybe the pilots for AirForce One and Two and whoever pilots the jet Nancy Pelosi commutes on should be affirmative action hires.
Every time you fail to take the best qualified for a job, you put another nail in the coffin of this country.
dam nay shun chief . . . what happened to you? I am actually finding my self AGREEING with you lately :eek: :eek: :eek:
 
BTW, 2500 is a hell of lot of pilots. If they don't get them in the system in the next 6 - 12 months it ain't happening.
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
cut and pasted the OP to a very good friend and ex MAG member - retired Warthog and commercial airline pilot . . . here is the response

Hey Dennis,
Yeah, I know all that. And more. United Airlines has always been known as the quota airline in the business and I've always avoided flying them. They confirmed that again this week when they said they were hiring another set of quota pilots, females and "persons of color" as at least 1/4 of their hires. They're proud of that. It's the perfect way to kill a bunch of people. Don't hire based on what they can do. Hire based on what someone looks like. Recipe for disaster, but you can count on the press covering it up if someone does burn one in. ****ers.


res ipsa if I've ever seen it
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
Remember Colin Powell? Affirmative Action general.

Bad rap. When CP was in college, somebody did a survey of the Ivy League and was horrified (?) to find the vast majority of Blacks had a Jamaican background, like Powell. Powell pretty well made it on his own.
 

MinnesotaSmith

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Remember Colin Powell? Affirmative Action general.

Bad rap. When CP was in college, somebody did a survey of the Ivy League and was horrified (?) to find the vast majority of Blacks had a Jamaican background, like Powell. Powell pretty well made it on his own.
Disagreeing. First, Powell was known in the Army to have been promoted over numerous better-qualified white males. Second, Schwartzkopf was horrified by how Powell wanted to approach Desert Storm, and had to go over his head to get that squashed and prevent a disaster.
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
Remember Colin Powell? Affirmative Action general.

Bad rap. When CP was in college, somebody did a survey of the Ivy League and was horrified (?) to find the vast majority of Blacks had a Jamaican background, like Powell. Powell pretty well made it on his own.
that's very true . . . so is the fact that he was an NWO globalist assklown POS politician in a generals uniform
 

Craftypatches

Senior Member
Riding on Southwest last month, there was some kind of foreignor flying the plane. Then the airline Stewart was telling the lingo and she appeared to be foreign also and I didn’t understand a word she said!
 

MinnesotaSmith

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Related on how ethical United Airlines is (or isn't):


  • “United Airlines Fined $49m Over Fraud On Postal Service Contracts” (Simple Flying, February 27, 2021): The DOJ documents states that instead of providing USPS accurate delivery scans based on the shipment of the mail, United submitted automated delivery scans “based on aspirational delivery times.” These scans did not correspond to the actual transportation of the mail, as mandated by the contracts. Therefore, since there was no movement of the post, the Chicago-based carrier was not entitled to payment. However, it still secured payments of millions of dollars from USPS.

  • “United Found Willful in Age Discrimination” (Law Week Colorado)

  • “United Settles Charges in Case of Flight Route to Benefit Public Official” (U.S. SEC): According to the SEC’s order instituted today, United reinstated a nonstop flight between Newark, N.J., and Columbia, S.C., at the behest of David Samson, the then-chairman of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey who sought a more direct route to his home in South Carolina. … the SEC’s order finds that United officials feared Samson’s influence could jeopardize United’s business interests before the Port Authority, including the approval of a hangar project to help the airline at Newark’s airport. The company ultimately decided to initiate the route despite the poor financial projections. The same day that United’s then-CEO approved initiation of the route, the Port Authority’s board approved the lease agreement related to the hangar project. United employees were told “no proactive communications” about the new route. … The route ultimately lost approximately $945,000 before it ceased again roughly around the time of Samson’s resignation from the Port Authority.

  • database of $144 million in fines imposed by the Federales against United, divided into fraud, employment discrimination ($48.8 million, even though, as demonstrated by this new program, sometimes discrimination is good!), aviation safety violation ($22 million), aviation consumer protection violation, etc.
 

Wiley

ACME Bomb Tester
This is similar to when I was with the FAA years ago, there was a push to hire more blacks and females so they got preference plus an extra 10 points on the civil service test you took and had to pass high enough to go to the academy in OKC. That got them a few white women, 2 black guys and no black females out of a class of approx 300 people that I was in. Even with preferences & extra points, I never heard of a black woman passing that civil service exam. If they can't pass a rigged test then we should all be grateful.
 

vestige

TB Fanatic
This is similar to when I was with the FAA years ago, there was a push to hire more blacks and females so they got preference plus an extra 10 points on the civil service test you took and had to pass high enough to go to the academy in OKC. That got them a few white women, 2 black guys and no black females out of a class of approx 300 people that I was in. Even with preferences & extra points, I never heard of a black woman passing that civil service exam. If they can't pass a rigged test then we should all be grateful.
Read that above really close and think about how it impacts your children, grandchildren and you.
 

earthbud

Contributing Member
United is the only airline that flies into the North Bend/Coos Bay (OTH) airport in Oregon. The last thing I need (and it probably would be) is a duh-versity hire trying to pinpoint a jet landing on the postage stamp sized runway at OTH. I'll be flying another airline into Medford or Eugene and renting a car for the 3 hour drive to see my friends.
 
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