After the Taliban "get going", more likely the comparison is going to lean towards the experience in Phnom Penh....
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After the Taliban "get going", more likely the comparison is going to lean towards the experience in Phnom Penh....
This new number is the better part of a brigade....I expect it to grow.....
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US to send 3,000 additional troops to Afghanistan to aid embassy evacuations
Soldiers to arrive within 48 hours to provide security and support for US embassy personnel in Kabul
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US to send 3,000 additional troops to Afghanistan to aid embassy evacuations
Soldiers to arrive within 48 hours to provide security and support for US embassy personnel in Kabul
The US embassy in Kabul. A senior official said it had ‘added some quick-reaction capabilities’. Photograph: Paula Bronstein/Getty Images
Peter Beaumont
Thu 12 Aug 2021 15.21 EDT
US and other western military planners are accelerating plans for the evacuation of embassy staff in Afghanistan as Kabul is increasingly threatened by the Taliban’s accelerating campaign.
The Pentagon said on Thursday that it would temporarily send about 3,000 additional US troops to Afghanistan to help secure the drawdown of US embassy personnel at the embassy in Kabul.
The soldiers will provide additional ground and air support for the processing and security of US personnel who will be airlifted to Kabul airport, officials said. The troops were scheduled to arrive within 48 hours.
Other countries are expected to follow suit as the pace of the Taliban’s victories have continued with the insurgents claiming the capture of the country’s second and third largest cities on Thursday, Kandahar and Herat.
Some countries have already begun to withdraw staff, and the US and Turkey are negotiating a security plan for the airport in the capital that would be essential for any evacuation.
The developments follows a US intelligence assessment that Kabul could be overrun in 30 to 90 days and a warning for US citizens to leave the country immediately in whatever way they can. Germany on Thursday also told its citizens to leave.
A senior US embassy official said in an interview with CBS last month that the embassy had “added some additional quick-reaction capabilities in the event that something happens”.
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The unravelling security situation in Afghanistan since Joe Biden’s announcement of the imminent end of the US military presence is heavily circumscribed by US domestic political considerations, because the president has come under fire from some Republican opponents for his handling of the withdrawal after 20 years.
US officials have said there has been no decision or order for an evacuation of American diplomatic personnel, but one official said it was time for serious conversations about whether the US military should begin to move assets in to the region to be ready in case the state department calls for a sudden evacuation.
The security of the US diplomatic corps has been talked about for months, even before the Taliban’s lightning advance, with a key component of the options being whether the US military would have unfettered access to Kabul international airport, allowing it to fly personnel out of the capital.
The US already has warships in the region, including the USS Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier and the USS Iwo Jima with the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit onboard.
The heavily fortified US embassy is only a few miles from the airport along a road secured by US troops, leading Biden to state on CBS News’s Face the Nation in July that “there’s going to be no circumstance where you’re going to see people being lifted off the roof of a embassy of the United States from Afghanistan”, referring to the evacuation of the US embassy in Saigon in 1975.
A key element for countries in deciding whether to keep embassies open and at what level is whether Kabul’s airport can be secured. Turkey has said it wants to operate and guard it.
The Turkish defence minister, Hulusi Akar, said on Thursday that his country was seeking financial, logistical and diplomatic guarantees, citing fears that diplomatic missions would completely withdraw if the airport was closed.
“For this reason we continue to share our view that the airport should remain open. In the coming days this issue will take shape,” he said in comments published in a defence ministry statement.
Following India’s decision to withdraw consular staff from the besieged northern city of Mazar-i Sharif, Denmark said on Thursday that it would withdraw 45 Afghan citizens who worked for its government and offer them residency in the European country for two years.
The plan approved on Wednesday applies to people who worked at the Danish embassy in Kabul and as interpreters for Danish troops.
“The security situation in Afghanistan is serious. The Taliban are gaining ground and development is accelerating more than many had feared,” the Danish foreign affairs ministry said after the evacuation plan received broad political support.
“We have a common responsibility to help the Afghans who are now threatened due to their connection and contribution to Denmark’s involvement in Afghanistan,” the ministry said.
Those evacuated will be screened both in Afghanistan and upon arrival in Denmark where they will undergo “a security interview with the immigration authorities and other relevant Danish authorities”.
The widening regional impact of the Taliban’s advances have also been felt in recent days, with Russia announcing it will give its ally Tajikistan $1.1m to build a new outpost on the Tajik-Afghan border.
The planned outpost will be located in Tajikistan’s Khatlon province adjacent to Afghanistan’s Kunduz province, where Taliban insurgents took over the provincial capital this week.
Russia operates a military base in Tajikistan, a fellow ex-Soviet republic whose government has expressed concern about the rapidly deteriorating security situation in Afghanistan.
Hundreds of Afghan servicemen crossed the border into Tajikistan last month, fleeing a Taliban offensive. Tajikistan later sent them back on special flights arranged by the Kabul government.
Agencies contributed to this report
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Why are they running? Ask Malala. Or alternately, for some it's an issue of being seen rightly or wrongly as a collaborator. What the Taliban tells the world they are doing is likely very different from the reality on the streets.
Also, the list might be small places, but they encircle the larger cities. Once they have control of the rural areas, they can tighten the noose around the cities and establish control.
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The Taliban are animals and inbreeders. Their world is a sh*thole. They're looking to export it.
The mantra from the Obama Admin was that we "couldn't kill our way out of this". Well the Taliban are proving that wrong.
Warlords and druglords are almost always the same people all over the world. That has been true in A'stan all along and it will not change now.
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Poppy Production: The Taliban’s Cash Cow
Kabul can win battles, but it will never win the war unless it disrupts the Taliban’s major funding source: poppies.
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Poppy Production: The Taliban’s Cash Cow
Kabul can win battles, but it will never win the war unless it disrupts the Taliban’s major funding source: poppies.
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Kabul can win battles, but it will never win the war unless it disrupts the Taliban’s major funding source: poppies.
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US Forces Being "Rushed" To Kabul Airport As Embassy Evacuation Underway
BY TYLER DURDEN
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THURSDAY, AUG 12, 2021 - 02:18 PM
update(2:18eastern): A CNN national security correspondent is reporting that hundreds of US embassy personnel in Kabul are preparing to be evacuated. The US Embassy Kabul has a total staff of thousands, including over 1,000 which are deemed "diplomats".
US troops are now being "rushed" by the Pentagon to the capital city's international airport amid a Taliban advance which is coming closer and closer. This is reportedly to assist in rapid evacuation efforts. State Department spokesman Ned Price has issued a statement, saying it's "not a full evacuation" at this point, but an evacuation of many personnel nonetheless.
This comes after reports earlier in the day Thursday suggested the US State Department is mulling the complete evacuation of the embassy at a moment the Taliban has already taken some 70% of the country, and is now a mere 90 miles away from the capital.
Ned Price making the announcement of pending evacuation...
CNN further reports that the embassy may "relocate" to the confines of the more secure Karzai International Airport, which is largely protected by a contingency of Turkish troops.
Kabul's international airport, via Reuters
As Dave DeCamp of AntiWar.com detailed earlier based on a report published by Politico Wednesday, the US is considering shuttering its embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan, as the Taliban is making significant gains across the country. One source told Politico that the embassy could be evacuated by the end of the month.
The evacuation is just one option being considered, and the State Department said Tuesday that it is evaluating the security of the embassy on a "daily basis." The US ordered a drawdown of its diplomatic staff in Kabul at the end of April, right before the withdrawal of US troops started.
US Embassy Kabul, source: Department of State
Also on Wednesday, US officials told several media outlets that Kabul could fall to the Taliban within 90 days, based on a new intelligence assessment. The Taliban hasn’t moved to take Kabul yet, but a source told Reuters that the Taliban could "isolate" Kabul within 30 days.
There are currently about 650 US troops left in Afghanistan. President Biden said he will complete his withdrawal by August 31st, but the US plans to leave most of the remaining troops at the Kabul embassy, and the Pentagon has established a military command structure based out of the facility.
While the US is desperate to maintain a military presence in Afghanistan, if the diplomatic staff is forced to evacuate, the 650 troops will likely leave with them.
The US and Turkey have been negotiating a deal that would keep Turkish troops at the Kabul airport to secure it so US personnel can come and go.
Despite the Taliban gains, Turkey says it still wants to guard the airport, but no plan has been finalized.
US Forces Being "Rushed" To Kabul Airport As Embassy Evacuation Underway | ZeroHedge
BY TYLER DURDEN
ZERO HEDGE
THURSDAY, AUG 12, 2021 - 02:18 PM
update(2:18eastern): A CNN national security correspondent is reporting that hundreds of US embassy personnel in Kabul are preparing to be evacuated. The US Embassy Kabul has a total staff of thousands, including over 1,000 which are deemed "diplomats".
US troops are now being "rushed" by the Pentagon to the capital city's international airport amid a Taliban advance which is coming closer and closer. This is reportedly to assist in rapid evacuation efforts. State Department spokesman Ned Price has issued a statement, saying it's "not a full evacuation" at this point, but an evacuation of many personnel nonetheless.
This comes after reports earlier in the day Thursday suggested the US State Department is mulling the complete evacuation of the embassy at a moment the Taliban has already taken some 70% of the country, and is now a mere 90 miles away from the capital.
Ned Price making the announcement of pending evacuation...
CNN further reports that the embassy may "relocate" to the confines of the more secure Karzai International Airport, which is largely protected by a contingency of Turkish troops.
Kabul's international airport, via Reuters
As Dave DeCamp of AntiWar.com detailed earlier based on a report published by Politico Wednesday, the US is considering shuttering its embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan, as the Taliban is making significant gains across the country. One source told Politico that the embassy could be evacuated by the end of the month.
The evacuation is just one option being considered, and the State Department said Tuesday that it is evaluating the security of the embassy on a "daily basis." The US ordered a drawdown of its diplomatic staff in Kabul at the end of April, right before the withdrawal of US troops started.
US Embassy Kabul, source: Department of State
Also on Wednesday, US officials told several media outlets that Kabul could fall to the Taliban within 90 days, based on a new intelligence assessment. The Taliban hasn’t moved to take Kabul yet, but a source told Reuters that the Taliban could "isolate" Kabul within 30 days.
There are currently about 650 US troops left in Afghanistan. President Biden said he will complete his withdrawal by August 31st, but the US plans to leave most of the remaining troops at the Kabul embassy, and the Pentagon has established a military command structure based out of the facility.
While the US is desperate to maintain a military presence in Afghanistan, if the diplomatic staff is forced to evacuate, the 650 troops will likely leave with them.
The US and Turkey have been negotiating a deal that would keep Turkish troops at the Kabul airport to secure it so US personnel can come and go.
Despite the Taliban gains, Turkey says it still wants to guard the airport, but no plan has been finalized.
US Forces Being "Rushed" To Kabul Airport As Embassy Evacuation Underway | ZeroHedge
Yeah.
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bev
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Interesting choice of background for that picture.
The Hammer
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If they even cover it. Which i haven't seen much.
Since we've already been getting reports of the Taliban looking to pass out to their troops all unattached females in their areas of control, it will also be interesting to see how that gets commented upon by "the Left" since they've effectively abandoned these people to the sexual slavery they've been so adamantly against.
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The Left won't say anything. They're trash.
Doomer Doug
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This is just the first of the SHATERRING MILITARY DEFEATS BIDEN AND GENERAL GENOCIDE are inflicting on us. I'm Vietnam era, so this total collapse is bringing back memories from 1975.
China will cherry pick various mines and resources. China will seal them off and if the Taliban messes with them they will nerve gas them. They did it to china's muslims and they will do it to the taliban.
China will cherry pick various mines and resources. China will seal them off and if the Taliban messes with them they will nerve gas them. They did it to china's muslims and they will do it to the taliban.
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Nightwolf and I were just talking about this, he is also absolutely stunned.
We both also noticed that the US has just told its enemies that it will take at least 48 hours to get US troops into the area, and with the Taliban just 90 miles away they just told them "you have 48 hours to push on and grab our embassy and personnel."
Nightwolf said: "who exactly is running the US military? I haven't seen a cockup like this since Sadaam Hussain was listening to CNN to see where the US was moving their troop's positions!"
We both also noticed that the US has just told its enemies that it will take at least 48 hours to get US troops into the area, and with the Taliban just 90 miles away they just told them "you have 48 hours to push on and grab our embassy and personnel."
Nightwolf said: "who exactly is running the US military? I haven't seen a cockup like this since Sadaam Hussain was listening to CNN to see where the US was moving their troop's positions!"
Doughboy42
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Deja vu, all over again (referring to Saigon in 1975). The Taliban gains should surprise no one. They have been planning for this offensive since the November election that seated king xiao bai den. Reminds me of Britney Spears' "oops ........ I did it again".
Doughboy42
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Biden, Austin, Milley. What could possibly go wrong?
With obama still calling the shots, it's predictable.
The Hammer
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If this thing goes sideways, does Biden give his first Oval Office address to explain things?
"Ummm...ah...uh...you know...anyway...come on man" isn't gonna cut it when it's not a CNN town hall anymore...
"Ummm...ah...uh...you know...anyway...come on man" isn't gonna cut it when it's not a CNN town hall anymore...
U.S. Asks Taliban to Spare Its Embassy in Coming Fight for Kabul
These stories prove that ragheads can’t actually fight a terrorist opponent.
Doughboy42
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The most committed wins.
Sadly it was.
And IMO it was to kill off and injure as many PATRIOTS as they could - ahead of the destruction of America we are witnessing.
The suicides are part of this as well.
The Luciferians that run this country - totally support this.
I came to this conclusion a couple of years ago.
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Oh man! Before I left all those weapons and ammo fall into ‘Tallywacker‘ hands, I’d frig all of them up so they had catastrophic failures every time they attempted to fire them!
Rounds peppered all throughout the cases of ammo that we’re loaded to 3x Saami specs, barrels with obstructions in them, etc.
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I doubt it. They learned their lesson the hard way. Putin isn't dumb.
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It is predicted Cockroaches will survive Nuclear war so it's not unreasonable to expect ISIS et al wouldn't be right there.
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von Koehler
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That assumes forethought and planning, something the Deep State is sorely lacking. All they were concerned about was war profits and expansion of their powers.
The only good thing to come out of this clusterfu*k is an example of a determined underdog defeating a superior force. They didn't even have nukes or F15 jets.