WAR trouble brewing again in ukraine

Zagdid

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Belarus: Anti-Lukashenko 'conspirators' shown on state television (msn.com)

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Belarus: Anti-Lukashenko 'conspirators' shown on state television
dw.com 17 hrs ago

Authorities in Belarus and Russia say they have foiled a "coup" attempt against Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko. A TV channel now claims to have video footage of three suspects discussing plans.

Following claims from strongman Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko that there is a US-backed plot to assassinate him, Belarus state broadcaster ONT on Sunday aired a video of the alleged conspirators discussing their plans in Moscow.

Russian and Belarusian security services have already arrested several people over the suspected plot earlier this month. Belarusian authorities have since said that the detainees admitted their guilt and were cooperating with the investigation.

What was shown in the video?
The televised ONT report contained video footage of lawyer Yuras Zyankovich, a Belarusian opposition politician who also holds a US passport.

Zyankevich was detained by Russia's FSB security agency earlier this month alongside opposition journalist Aleksandr Feduta in Moscow, with the Russian authorities then handing them over to Belarus.

Separately, Belarus officials also detained opposition politician Grigory Kostusev.

The ONT report includes a video, apparently recorded with a hidden camera, of the dual US-Belarus national Zyankovich saying that the first task was "to remove the top man," in a likely reference to Lukashenko.

Zyankovich then discussed plans to block Belarusian riot police and take control of "several symbolic objects" in downtown Minsk. Journalist Feduta adds that "at least 30 people would need to be detained" in Minsk in the first hour.

On Sunday, the broadcaster said the video had been recorded in a Moscow restaurant. ONT also showed what appeared to be Zyankovich, Feduta and Kostusev confessing to the authorities, although the combined length of that video segment was around five seconds, with fragmented statements of all three men cut tightly together.

What claims have Russia and Belarus made?
Previously, Russia's FSB said Zyankovich and Feduta had been consulting with US and Polish representatives. Belarus' KGB went a step further, saying that Zyankovich was in contact with US security services and sought to "recruit and bribe members of the Belarus armed forces and law enforcement bodies" for a violent coup.

While addressing the Russian parliament on Thursday, President Vladimir Putin reaffirmed Lukashenko's claims of an assassination plot. Putin also accused the West of pretending that "nothing is happening."

"The practice of organizing coups and planning political assassinations of top officials goes over the top and crosses all boundaries," Putin said.

Both the US and the opposition leaders in Belarus have dismissed the accusations of planning a coup.

dj/wmr (Interfax, AP)
 

Melodi

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Update: Ukraine: The Minister of Agriculture stated that the North Crimean Canal will be used to provide water to the Kherson region used only for irrigation and water supply to farmers. No water will be sent to Crimea till de-occupation of Crimea happens.

View: https://twitter.com/EndGameWW3/status/1386719257086550016
Rut roh, I think this may just have ended any hope of an actual negotiation being successful at least in the longer-term...
 

Doomer Doug

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Yep, that ban on giving water to the Crimea just sealed it. Another post said the resivors had an 8 month supply left. Also, Military roadblocks are being set up in Minsk. How is that deescalation going for you?
 

John Deere Girl

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Yep, that ban on giving water to the Crimea just sealed it. Another post said the resivors had an 8 month supply left. Also, Military roadblocks are being set up in Minsk. How is that deescalation going for you?
Someone wants war, and it sure seems like it's Ukraine. I'd say they have someone encouraging this like NATO and Biden's handlers.
 

okie-carbine

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I said a while back that it would be May 1 for the invasion. Looks like it could go either way at this point. I think Putin has all of his chess pieces in place as far as the east and south sides of Ukraine. He is working on the north side this week. Surely he can get that sorted out by Saturday.
 

seraphima

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I said a while back that it would be May 1 for the invasion. Looks like it could go either way at this point. I think Putin has all of his chess pieces in place as far as the east and south sides of Ukraine. He is working on the north side this week. Surely he can get that sorted out by Saturday.
I think he'll wait until after Pascha (Orthodox Easter) which is this Sunday, May 2. It is hard to explain to non-orthodox how important and holy the keeping of Pascha is. Now a few days after? - sad, but fair game.
 

jward

passin' thru
Guess I'll stick to "Guns of April" as its since been picked up by the "real" journalists- but I remain in fervent prayer daddy vlad continues to play adult in the room and finds a way to transform that coercive diplomacy into a global win
..I've lived enough of em to know sometimes dreams DO come true.

I said a while back that it would be May 1 for the invasion. Looks like it could go either way at this point. I think Putin has all of his chess pieces in place as far as the east and south sides of Ukraine. He is working on the north side this week. Surely he can get that sorted out by Saturday.
 

jward

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Update: Ukrainian President Zelensky on meeting with heads of the DPR/LPR: "I'm not going to talk to terrorists."

The President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky rejected the offer of the Russian leader Vladimir Putin to hold negotiations with the participation of the leaders of the "LDNR" terrorists

Update: Crimea declared that water stocks in reservoirs only have enough water for 8 months.

Update: Ukraine's response on Ukrainian diplomat being kicked out of Russia:
"The decision only confirms the course chosen by the Russian Federation for further aggravation with Ukraine. In the near future, the Foreign Ministry will announce the expulsion of a Russian diplomat from the territory of Ukraine on the principle of reciprocity."
This comes after Russia told Ukraine not to respond.
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I don't believe in dates but May 9th is being thrown around for an attack by Russia on Ukraine by several analyst. So take it as you will.

"Remember Georgia, Russia's military exercises" Caucasus-2008 ". There was also an accumulation of military forces on the border with Georgia. Then Putin announced the end of the exercises and the withdrawal of Russian armed forces and units. And two weeks later it began.

So we We must understand that the analogies are very simple. If the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Sergei Shoigu announced the withdrawal of troops on April 23 , then we should count down 2 weeks. And this is May 9, "Kravchenko said.
 

Oreally

Right from the start
I think he'll wait until after Pascha (Orthodox Easter) which is this Sunday, May 2. It is hard to explain to non-orthodox how important and holy the keeping of Pascha is. Now a few days after? - sad, but fair game.
no one here i know seems to think anything is going to happen...as of last night in a group of well educated professionals all said.

me, i was skeptical.

the laugh line was, the 'Amerikanskii Brezhnev' will do nothing.
 
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