WAR trouble brewing again in ukraine

danielboon

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I keep thinking about what Putin was saying back in 2016, that if Clinton won the election it would be the start of WW3. Now Biden is in charge and they may be thinking its "go time". Now they are about to liberate Eastern Ukraine before NATO has a chance to get any more entrenched.
They are going all in I expect China to go after Taiwan and maybe even Guam WW3 is closing in.
 

Housecarl

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Critical month: Russians put under arms nationwide - Russian public television talks about nuclear strike - Calls reservists

Columnist: Vasilis Kapoulas
WarNews 247
April 6 2021
Translated from Greek

For the first time since the dissolution of the USSR, Russian Defence Minister S. Shoigu put the Russian war machine on "red alert" nationwide by the end of April.

Russia is simulating a pan-European or even a world war by putting even its nuclear triad on a war alert.


On standby and the nuclear triad together the entire Russian Army until the end of April

Thus, strategic bombers carrying nuclear missiles, intercontinental nuclear missiles, submarines were ordered to be placed on nuclear alert as provided for by Russian military doctrine.

This means a first nuclear strike and the possibility of a second counter-attack nuclear strike in the event of engagement with NATO.


A total of 4,048 exercises of various levels will take place by the end of the month, including 812 bilateral exercises in 101 training centres and 520 facilities of the Russian Armed Forces.

The Russians are running scenarios of a global showdown with NATO. The exercises will be carried out by 30,000 paratroopers, i.e. the entire force that has been transferred to Crimea and the border with Ukraine


War readiness concerns the whole of Russia: All Military Regions, the Northern Fleet, the Far East, the islands of Kuriles and Kamsaka.

The strange thing about Russian military mobilization is the "nationwide level" and nuclear mobilization. Until now, such exercises have been conducted by Military Region. That is no longer the case now.

Russian public television: Nuclear strike to comply with NATO!
However, in a terrifying public report, russian public television "Russia 1" spoke of a nuclear strike. They said:

"If there is a possible escalation in Ukraine, then a nuclear strike is on the agenda. This will make Americans afraid and we will do whatever we want."

Ukraine calls reservists

Ukraine just now officially started calling reservists.

According to information from Kiev, about 100,000 reservists are on the recruitment lists in a total of 25 territorial defence brigades belonging to the Ukrainian Defence Ministry.

Ukrainian Military Espionage reported what WarNews247 has revealed for days: that Russia is transferring forces from all its Military Regions, Central, Western and Eastern.

At the same time, the Ukrainian president revealed that 28 Ukrainians have been killed since July, 10 in the last days and 3 in the last 24 hours!

It has become known that one Ukrainian soldier was killed by mortar and the second by a mine.

The Americans are now worried.

Americans have been worried for 48 hours, and they're showing it.

"We will continue to observe russian forces gathering next to the border with Ukraine, especially in Crimea and in the southeast.

The Russians' intention is not
clear to us; this is something to worry about," the Pentagon spokesman said.

Talks with the Minsk Group are over

The Ukrainian delegation participating in the Tripartite Contact Group shall withdraw.

The group will no longer participate and will no longer travel to Minsk for negotiations on a peaceful settlement of disputes in Donbass.

This was confirmed by Ukrainian Olexiy Reznikov, Deputy Prime Minister.

It's all about conflict...

Κρίσιμος μήνας: Οι Ρώσοι τέθηκαν υπό τα όπλα σε πανεθνικό επίπεδο – Η ρωσική δημόσια τηλεόραση μιλά για πυρηνικό πλήγμα – Καλεί εφέδρους η Ουκρανία – 3 νεκροί - WarNews247
Reverse Able Archer this isn't......
 

Doomer Doug

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Reverse Able Archer this isn't......
Housecarl, I hate you in the nicest way. Merde :D
Quoting Heston in the first Planet of the Apes about the Statue of Liberty: "They blew it up." Sheesh, some normalcy bias going on with the sheeple. :sheep:
 

Plain Jane

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Ukraine's Zelensky: "NATO Membership Is The Only Way To End War In Donbass"
Tyler Durden's Photo

BY TYLER DURDEN
TUESDAY, APR 06, 2021 - 02:59 PM
On Tuesday Ukraine's president Volodymyr Zelensky issued a briefing to NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg on Russia's troop build-up near Ukraine's eastern border following Kiev's accusations that Moscow is escalating its support to pro-Russian separatists in the Donbass region, and further that the Kremlin has aims of some type of "offensive" to weaken Ukraine's sovereignty.

But more importantly it's what Zelensky said about NATO on Tuesday that has provoked a severe reaction out of the Kremlin. He urged for the military alliance to immediately expand its Black Sea presence. "Such a permanent presence should be a powerful deterrent to Russia, which continues the large-scale militarization of the region and hinders merchant shipping," Zelensky said during the phone call with NATO's Stoltenberg, according to the president's press service.


The Ukrainian president specifically cited "a very dangerous tendency with an increase in the number of ceasefire violations by the Russian occupying forces and the number of Ukrainian defenders killed," according to the remarks.

And that's when he reiterated Kiev's desire to be admitted to NATO, something which Moscow has repeatedly warned against over the years, threatening that it could catapult the region toward a major war. Zelensky's press release of the call included the following hugely provocative statements:
The President of Ukraine stressed that the most urgent issue in relations with NATO for Ukraine was the possibility of obtaining the NATO Membership Action Plan.
"We are committed to reforming our army and defense sector, but reforms alone will not stop Russia. NATO is the only way to end the war in Donbas. Ukraine's MAP will be a real signal for Russia," the President said.
Or based on the Kremlin's to-be-expected swift and angry reaction to the statement, it would likely be the extreme opposite: namely major escalation which would draw in Kiev's Western backers like the United States.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov warned this would be "unacceptable" for citizens within the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics (DPR, LPR) - where fighting has raged going back to 2015. He underscored this would "only aggravate" the conflict.
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"We deeply doubt that it will somehow help Ukraine to deal with its internal problem. From our point of view, it will only exacerbate the situation further because people’s opinions cannot be overlooked in any way when you talk about joining NATO. And if you ask opinions of several million people in the self-proclaimed republics, you will understand that such a membership in NATO is deeply unacceptable for these people," he emphasized according to TASS.

Zelensky's talk of joining NATO is very likely a central reason why Russia appears to now be building up its forces near Ukraine. Likely there's no "offensive" coming (there's no evidence that a single Russian soldier has currently entered Ukrainian soil), but instead Moscow is sending a severe 'deterrent' message to the West, signaling what will happen if in the near future if there are indeed moves to formally admit Ukraine into NATO.
 

Grumphau

Senior Member
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Zelensky's talk of joining NATO is very likely a central reason why Russia appears to now be building up its forces near Ukraine. Likely there's no "offensive" coming (there's no evidence that a single Russian soldier has currently entered Ukrainian soil), but instead Moscow is sending a severe 'deterrent' message to the West, signaling what will happen if in the near future if there are indeed moves to formally admit Ukraine into NATO.
This is a LOT of money and power to be a simple show of force. At this point I have to disagree with the bolded assertion. In my professional (not) opinion, we are going to see an operation to quickly grab land and smash any resistance before Ukraine or the West can properly respond. This is how Russia has operated in the past and I think they will continue to do so.
 

mecoastie

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I think the Ukraine is toast. The question is how much does Russia take? They will take what they need for the Crimea but how much more? Putin knows Biden cant do anything and Europe is powerless. I don't see Puti moving on Poland or anything else unless the West reacts.
 

Doomer Doug

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Oh, isn't that special. Globalist stooge trudeau is a coward. You can be sure he won't be anywhere near the ukraine.
 

Techwreck

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I think the plan is/was/has been to take Ukraine into Nato.
Vlad understands and is saying not just no, but hell no.
What will the western brilliant leaders do?
 

Nowski

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