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BREAKING: South Korea's JCS says that the military detected signs of North Korea holding a late-night military parade Sunday. US-ROK intelligence authorities closely monitoring, considering possibilities that the parade was part of Party Congress event or "practicing" in advance
 

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(LEAD) Demotion of N.K. leader's sister at party congress raises questions over her status
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(LEAD) Demotion of N.K. leader's sister at party congress raises questions over her status

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SEOUL, Jan. 11 (Yonhap) -- The demotion of North Korean leader Kim Jong-un's powerful sister at an ongoing party congress is raising questions over whether it signals any change in her status in the top echelons of power.
During the sixth-day session of the party's eighth congress in Pyongyang on Sunday, Kim Yo-jong, the leader's younger sister, was not listed as a member nor as an alternate member of the party's politburo, according to the official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA).
Her absence on the politburo list drew a sharp contrast with South Korean intelligence authorities' assessment that the younger Kim is "the de facto No. 2 leader" steering overall state affairs.
The National Intelligence Service made the assessment during a closed-door parliamentary briefing in August, with a prediction that she would be elevated to a higher party post in the rare congress, according to lawmakers.
Observers said that it is premature to determine where Kim Yo-jong stands in the top party echelons based on the recent reshuffle, given her pedigree and the great trust the leader places in her.
Kim Yo-jong emerged from the shadows in 2018 as she accompanied her brother and the country's leader at three inter-Korean summits, including the historic summit talks at the inter-Korean border village of Panmunjom in April 2018.
She also gained global attention leading the North Korean delegation to Seoul at the 2018 Winter Olympics.
Kim has handled inter-Korean affairs as first vice director of the Workers' Party Central Committee since late 2019. In April 2020, she was reappointed as an alternate member of the politburo.
She received global spotlight once again last year when leader Kim's prolonged absence from public view sparked rumors about his health and speculation that she could take over if the leader is incapacitated.
She was also heavily involved in cutting inter-Korean communication lines and blowing up an inter-Korean liaison office in June in anger over leafleting campaign by South Korean activists.
She has also released several crucial statements under her name regarding the United States and South Korea, reinforcing the notion that she holds significant sway over external policy issues.
Observers say that regardless of her position in the ruling party, her political role is likely to remain unchanged as she appears to have undertaken a prominent role in state affairs, including inter-Korean affairs, and is family of the North Korean leader.
"Kim Yo-jong can always be appointed as an alternate member or member of the political bureau when Kim Jong-un decides to do so, and her official status can be suddenly elevated like in the case of Jo Yong-won as she regularly assists leader Kim in his public activities," Cheong Seong-chang, a senior researcher at the Sejong Institute, said.
They also point out the possibility that the North could introduce a new agency and place the younger Kim in a key position.
Leif-Eric Easley, a professor at Ewha Womans University in Seoul, pointed out that Kim's path of promotions is "not linear."
"She comes in and out of prominence and her title tends not to match her importance. She is a confidant and image consultant for her brother as well as a trusted pair of eyes and ears embedded in the North Korean elite," he said in a comment sent to reporters.
All eyes are also on the promotion of Jo Yong-won, a senior party official who was often spotted accompanying the leader during his field trips last year, to a member of the presidium of the political bureau. The position is held by only five people in the North including leader Kim.

A file photo of Kim Yo-jong, younger sister of North Korean leader Kim Jong-un (Yonhap)

 
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'Your move, Mr President': North Korea sets the stage for Biden
By Laura Bicker
BBC News, Seoul

Published
6 hours ago



media captionNorth Korea's Kim Jong-un chokes up during speech
North Korean leader Kim Jong-un celebrated his birthday with a long wish-list of new weapons.
It included more accurate long-range missiles, super large warheads, spy satellites and a nuclear-powered submarine.
The military plans announced during one of the biggest political events in North Korea in the last five years may sound threatening - and it is indeed a threat.
But it's also a challenge. The timing of this message is key as it comes as US President-elect Joe Biden prepares to take office.
Mr Kim, who has also now been promoted to Secretary General (the highest rank of the ruling Worker's Party), is struggling to be heard outside his own country amidst the current tumult in the US.
But if the incoming US administration harbours any hopes of preventing Mr Kim's nuclear ambitions, now might be the time to listen.
"Kim's announcements no doubt are meant to emphasise to the incoming US administration that a failure to take quick action will result in North Korea qualitatively advancing its capabilities in ways deleterious to US and South Korean interests," said Ankit Panda, author of Kim Jong-un and the Bomb, adding that Joe Biden's administration should take this seriously.
People in Seoul, South Korea, watch breaking news of North Korea's missile launch in July 2019
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image captionPeople in Seoul, South Korea, watch breaking news of a North Korean missile launch in July 2019
Mr Kim and Donald Trump met three times, but they failed to reach any agreement to end North Korea's nuclear weapons programme or the current crippling economic sanctions imposed on Pyongyang by the US and the UN.
The questions being asked on the Korean peninsula are whether Joe Biden can do any better, and whether he should take Mr Kim's threat seriously.
"I think the president-elect should take that at face value and, as soon as possible, clarify his perspective on what objectives his administration will seek in potential negotiations with North Korea," said Mr Panda.
"If Kim sees no shift from the traditional US emphasis on comprehensive and total nuclear disarmament before any sanctions can be eased, I'd think he'll simply push ahead with testing and other activities," he added.
In his speech to the thousands of delegates at the Workers' Party Congress, Mr Kim described the US as his country's "biggest enemy" - but he also added that he did not "rule out diplomacy".
The summits may have failed, but they have been glorified in technicolour in the main hall of the party Congress as an "event of the greatest significance in the history of world politics".
So there is wiggle room if Joe Biden wishes to use it.
But Duyeon Kim, Adjunct Senior Fellow at the Center for a New American Security, said the US would have to make the first move and any deal will come at a cost.
"Kim Jong-un's price for the US is ending combined military drills with Seoul, removing sanctions, and refraining from making human rights criticisms before talks. Washington won't do these unconditionally," Duyeon Kim said.
"Even if negotiations resumed, Kim's price is high for any deal because he's been suggesting Cold War-style arms control talks in which both sides take mutual and reciprocal steps. But that doesn't make sense because there's no parity between US and North Korean nuclear arsenals."
Graphic: Hwasong 15 missile altitude comparison

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It is my understanding that Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un came close to a deal at their second meeting in Hanoi in February 2019.
But that deal is no longer on the table, and Mr Kim is now negotiating with a very different president.
What Mr Kim is doing with this speech is trying to prove he has the upper hand.
He's resetting the starting point for talks - it's no longer about giving up his current arsenal, it's about preventing him from building a new and improved one.
More fire and fury?
It's not exactly a huge surprise that Mr Kim harbours ambitions to expand his nuclear arsenal.
But what came as a surprise to many was that he announced a detailed list of his goals:
  • longer-range missiles
  • better missiles
  • hypersonic missile
  • military reconnaissance satellites
  • solid-fuel intercontinental ballistic missiles
  • new unmanned aerial vehicle
  • new nuclear warheads
  • tactical nuclear weapons
Of course, any new weapon will have to be tested, and with tests come tension.
Everyone on the Korean peninsula remembers the threat of "fire and fury" promised by Donald Trump in 2017 after three long-range missile tests by North Korea.
NK-RoK: The military balance

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South Korea is desperate to avoid a repeat of this ramped-up rhetoric and brinkmanship.
But Mr Kim is laying down the gauntlet and perhaps wondering if he will get a reaction.
In his speech, he even discussed how far he would like his long-range missiles to fly. He wants them able to hit targets up to 15,000km (9320 miles) away.
This range would make Pyongyang more than capable of hitting the US.
North Korea launched what is known as the Hwasong 15 in late 2017 and claimed then that the missile could reach any part of the US while carrying a nuclear warhead.
But it's not known if it has the technology needed to protect a nuclear warhead as it re-enters the atmosphere to deliver the weapon to its target.
As for the dream of a nuclear-powered submarine, analysts believe that may be a long way off for the regime.
However, North Korea "has proven remarkably resilient in the past", said Mr Panda.
US President-elect Joe Biden. File photo
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image captionNorth Korea is waiting to see where Joe Biden stands on its nuclear ambitions
Kim Jong-un has managed to make significant advances to its current nuclear programme despite a series of deepening economic crises.
"Even if Kim can't accomplish the entirety of his agenda, we should not bet against his will to push through and begin testing and manufacturing some of the systems he named," said Mr Panda.
Crackdown amid reports of food crisis
The big question is, how will Kim Jong-un pay for his ambitions as his country faces one of the bleakest economic situations in decades. Could this wish-list be an empty threat?
Five years ago, Mr Kim promised his people economic prosperity. Those plans are now in tatters.
He opened the party Congress with an admission of failure.
The word "sorry" would not have been heard from his father or grandfather - but the young leader is now used to making apologies and was even seen in tears at a military parade in October as he outlined the stark situation facing his people.
North Korea's borders were closed nearly a year ago to prevent the spread of Covid-19 from neighbouring China.
Pyongyang still denies having a single confirmed case of the virus, although there are many unconfirmed reports which claim Covid-19 has spread within the secretive state.
The border blockade has affected trade with China which is now down by almost 80%.
A series of typhoons and floods have devastated vital crops and houses.
NK News website reported empty supermarket shelves in North Korea's capital Pyongyang, and the prices of simple goods such as sugar have shot up, according to South Korea's spy agency.
Diplomatic sources have told me about certain goods piled up at the border, including medical supplies.
At best they are delayed. At worst they are not getting into the country at all. And, of course, strict economic sanctions remain in place.
North Korea is more cut off from the world than ever before.
Internally, there are signs that there is a crackdown on informal markets which had sprung up across the country as households tried to make extra money.
These small signs of capitalism had been tolerated for years - but now the state wants this money too.

media captionNorth Korean potato propaganda is making a comeback... but what does it mean?
Peter Ward, a PhD Candidate at the University of Vienna, studies the North Korean economy closely and said this predated the pandemic and that "some of it dates back to before Kim Jong-un took power".
"But the level of hostility toward market actors and the emphasis on restoring state retail we have seen since 2019 is notable and worrisome," he said.
So what can be done?
South Korea has been more than hinting that the Biden administration should signal to Pyongyang that it is willing to talk.
President Moon Jae-in said again in his New Year address that he was willing to meet North Korea's leader "anytime and anywhere".

media captionNorth Korea defectors: Why it's getting harder to escape
But Kim Jong-un rejected this olive branch, and often dismisses Seoul as a player in these discussions. He batted away suggestions of aid or collaboration on Covid-19 medications and vaccines.
Jeongmin Kim, an analyst from NK News, said it was "time Seoul lowered its expectations".
"This party congress made it even clearer to President Moon that North Korea is not interested in the symbolic, small stuff like inter-Korean cooperation.
"But as with the US, North Korea did not close the doors completely on Moon's face, but left it conditional: almost saying, let's see how you behave.
"It is a tall order, siding less with the US and holding hands with North Korea. Mr Moon can't do that.
"But because North Korea left it as conditional and did not sever ties completely, Seoul will likely hold on to that hope and probably go ahead with what it can do - continued olive branches about public health co-operation to at least manage the risk of things blowing up, until Moon's term is over in 2022," said Jeongmin Kim.
So all roads to a deal appear to lead through Washington. The new administration has a growing and demanding list of priorities; North Korea is just one of them and is struggling to get any attention.
However, most analysts believe that if the US president-elect fails to respond quickly, North Korea will take action, probably by testing ballistic missiles.
Kim Jong-un has set the stage. His message now is, "Your move, Mr Biden."
 

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N Korea holds huge military parade as Kim vows nuclear might
North Korea has rolled out developmental ballistic missiles designed to be launched from submarines and other military hardware in a massive nighttime parade
By KIM TONG-HYUNG Associated Press
14 January 2021, 21:17


This photo provided by the North Korean government shows missiles during a military parade marking the ruling party congress, at Kim Il Sung Square in Pyongyang, North Korea Thursday, Jan. 14, 2021. Independent journalists were not given access to co

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This photo provided by the North Korean government shows missiles during a military parade marking the ruling party congress, at Kim Il Sung Square in Pyongyang, North Korea Thursday, Jan. 14, 2021. Independent journalists were not given access to cover the event depicted in this image distributed by the North Korean government. The content of this image is as provided and cannot be independently verified. Korean language watermark on image as provided by source reads: "KCNA" which is the abbreviation for Korean Central News Agency. (Korean Central News Agency/Korea News Service via AP)

SEOUL, South Korea -- North Korea rolled out developmental ballistic missiles designed to be launched from submarines and other military hardware in a parade that punctuated leader Kim Jong Un’s defiant calls to expand his nuclear weapons program.

State media said Kim took center stage in Thursday night’s parade celebrating a major ruling party meeting where Kim vowed maximum efforts to bolster his nuclear and missile program that threatens Asian rivals and the American homeland to counter what he described as U.S. hostility.


During the eight-day Workers’ Party congress that ended Tuesday, Kim also revealed plans to salvage the nation’s economy amid U.S.-led sanctions over his nuclear ambitions, pandemic-related border closures and natural disasters that wiped out crops.

The economic setbacks have left Kim nothing to show for his ambitious diplomacy with President Donald Trump, which derailed over disagreements in exchanging sanctions relief and the North’s denuclearization steps, and pushed Kim to what is clearly the toughest moment of his nine-year rule.

Kim’s comments are likely intended to pressure the incoming U.S. government of Joe Biden, who has previously called the North Korean leader a “thug” and accused Trump of chasing spectacle rather than meaningful curbs on the North’s nuclear capabilities. Kim has not ruled out talks, but he said the fate of bilateral relations would depend on whether Washington abandons its hostile policy toward Pyongyang.

The Korean Central News Agency on Friday released photos of Kim wearing a black fur hat and leather trench coat, smiling widely and gesturing from a podium as thousands of troops and civilian spectators filled Kim Il Sung Square, named after his grandfather and North Korea’s founder.

The agency said spectators roared as troops rolled out the country’s most advanced strategic weapons, including submarine-launched ballistic missiles it described as the “world’s most powerful weapon.”

Photos released by state media showed trucks transporting what appeared to be a new submarine-launched ballistic missile that was larger than the ones the North previously tested.

The North also displayed a variety of solid-fuel weapons designed to be fired from mobile land launchers, which potentially expands the North’s capabilities to strike targets in South Korea and Japan, including U.S. military bases there
.

The agency also said the parade featured other missiles capable of “thoroughly annihilating enemies in a pre-emptive way outside (our) territory.” But it wasn’t immediately clear whether the description was referring to intercontinental ballistic missiles.

As of Friday afternoon, the North’s state media did not release any images from the parade that included ICBMs.

During its previous military parade in October, the North unveiled what appeared to be its biggest-yet ICBM. The country’s previous long-range missiles demonstrated a potential ability to reach deep into the U.S. mainland during flight tests in 2017.

The North has been developing submarine-launched ballistic missile systems for years. Acquiring an operational system would alarm its rivals and neighbors because missiles fired from submerged vessels are harder to detect in advance.

Still, Kim Dong-yub, an analyst from Seoul’s Institute for Far Eastern Studies and a former military official who participated in inter-Korean military talks, said the North’s presumably new SLBM could possibly be an engineering mock-up that would require further development before it's ready to be tested and deployed.

While Kim Jong Un during the congress vowed to develop nuclear-powered submarines capable of firing nuclear-armed ballistic missiles, it would take “considerable time” for the North overcome financial and technological difficulties to acquire such systems, the analyst said.

South Korea’s Joint Chiefs of Staff said in a statement it was studying the weapons displayed by the North but didn’t immediately release a detailed assessment.

It wasn’t immediately clear whether Kim Jong Un delivered a speech during the parade. North Korean state TV was expected to release footage of the parade later on Friday.

Nuclear-powered submarines were just one of many advanced military assets that were on Kim’s wish list during the congress, which also included longer-range ICBMs that could potentially target the U.S. mainland more reliably, new tactical nuclear weapons and warheads, spy satellites and hypersonic weapons.

It’s unclear whether the North is fully capable of acquiring such systems. While the country is believed to have accumulated at least dozens of nuclear weapons, outside estimates on the exact status of its nuclear and missiles programs vary widely.

N Korea holds huge military parade as Kim vows nuclear might - ABC News (go.com)
 

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N Korea holds huge military parade as Kim vows nuclear might
North Korea has rolled out developmental ballistic missiles designed to be launched from submarines and other military hardware in a massive nighttime parade
By KIM TONG-HYUNG Associated Press
14 January 2021, 21:17


This photo provided by the North Korean government shows missiles during a military parade marking the ruling party congress, at Kim Il Sung Square in Pyongyang, North Korea Thursday, Jan. 14, 2021. Independent journalists were not given access to co

Image Icon
The Associated Press
This photo provided by the North Korean government shows missiles during a military parade marking the ruling party congress, at Kim Il Sung Square in Pyongyang, North Korea Thursday, Jan. 14, 2021. Independent journalists were not given access to cover the event depicted in this image distributed by the North Korean government. The content of this image is as provided and cannot be independently verified. Korean language watermark on image as provided by source reads: "KCNA" which is the abbreviation for Korean Central News Agency. (Korean Central News Agency/Korea News Service via AP)

SEOUL, South Korea -- North Korea rolled out developmental ballistic missiles designed to be launched from submarines and other military hardware in a parade that punctuated leader Kim Jong Un’s defiant calls to expand his nuclear weapons program.

State media said Kim took center stage in Thursday night’s parade celebrating a major ruling party meeting where Kim vowed maximum efforts to bolster his nuclear and missile program that threatens Asian rivals and the American homeland to counter what he described as U.S. hostility.


During the eight-day Workers’ Party congress that ended Tuesday, Kim also revealed plans to salvage the nation’s economy amid U.S.-led sanctions over his nuclear ambitions, pandemic-related border closures and natural disasters that wiped out crops.

The economic setbacks have left Kim nothing to show for his ambitious diplomacy with President Donald Trump, which derailed over disagreements in exchanging sanctions relief and the North’s denuclearization steps, and pushed Kim to what is clearly the toughest moment of his nine-year rule.

Kim’s comments are likely intended to pressure the incoming U.S. government of Joe Biden, who has previously called the North Korean leader a “thug” and accused Trump of chasing spectacle rather than meaningful curbs on the North’s nuclear capabilities. Kim has not ruled out talks, but he said the fate of bilateral relations would depend on whether Washington abandons its hostile policy toward Pyongyang.

The Korean Central News Agency on Friday released photos of Kim wearing a black fur hat and leather trench coat, smiling widely and gesturing from a podium as thousands of troops and civilian spectators filled Kim Il Sung Square, named after his grandfather and North Korea’s founder.

The agency said spectators roared as troops rolled out the country’s most advanced strategic weapons, including submarine-launched ballistic missiles it described as the “world’s most powerful weapon.”

Photos released by state media showed trucks transporting what appeared to be a new submarine-launched ballistic missile that was larger than the ones the North previously tested.

The North also displayed a variety of solid-fuel weapons designed to be fired from mobile land launchers, which potentially expands the North’s capabilities to strike targets in South Korea and Japan, including U.S. military bases there
.

The agency also said the parade featured other missiles capable of “thoroughly annihilating enemies in a pre-emptive way outside (our) territory.” But it wasn’t immediately clear whether the description was referring to intercontinental ballistic missiles.

As of Friday afternoon, the North’s state media did not release any images from the parade that included ICBMs.

During its previous military parade in October, the North unveiled what appeared to be its biggest-yet ICBM. The country’s previous long-range missiles demonstrated a potential ability to reach deep into the U.S. mainland during flight tests in 2017.

The North has been developing submarine-launched ballistic missile systems for years. Acquiring an operational system would alarm its rivals and neighbors because missiles fired from submerged vessels are harder to detect in advance.

Still, Kim Dong-yub, an analyst from Seoul’s Institute for Far Eastern Studies and a former military official who participated in inter-Korean military talks, said the North’s presumably new SLBM could possibly be an engineering mock-up that would require further development before it's ready to be tested and deployed.

While Kim Jong Un during the congress vowed to develop nuclear-powered submarines capable of firing nuclear-armed ballistic missiles, it would take “considerable time” for the North overcome financial and technological difficulties to acquire such systems, the analyst said.

South Korea’s Joint Chiefs of Staff said in a statement it was studying the weapons displayed by the North but didn’t immediately release a detailed assessment.

It wasn’t immediately clear whether Kim Jong Un delivered a speech during the parade. North Korean state TV was expected to release footage of the parade later on Friday.

Nuclear-powered submarines were just one of many advanced military assets that were on Kim’s wish list during the congress, which also included longer-range ICBMs that could potentially target the U.S. mainland more reliably, new tactical nuclear weapons and warheads, spy satellites and hypersonic weapons.

It’s unclear whether the North is fully capable of acquiring such systems. While the country is believed to have accumulated at least dozens of nuclear weapons, outside estimates on the exact status of its nuclear and missiles programs vary widely.

N Korea holds huge military parade as Kim vows nuclear might - ABC News (go.com)

The noses of those SLBMs don't look like RVs but shrouds to cover RVs or MIRVs......
 

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Looking at #NorthKorea's new Pukguksong-5 submarine-launched ballistic missile. http://hisutton.com/North-Korean-Navy-SLBM-Pukguksong-5.html
Revised estimate, same size as Pukguksong-3.
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Are you sure on the length, I was reviewing the imagery and where the back section of missile ends and where the back support holder also forward is and from imagery it looks like the body is same length as PK-4 but the PK-5 has taller nose section.

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So, we think the PGS-1 is a smaller diameter and the -2 and -3 are the same larger diameter.

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I think so but least confidence on -2.
@ISNJH has done some detailed image analysis (I did too but a while ago now)

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thanks for the shout out :) one thing I will point out it appears that the the white spacer markers meet up at same location on the trailer holders.
reviewing imagery for now it does not appear the trailer supports are not adjusted and look same location as last paraded trailer. If that is case should help give idea of the length from where those are and how far it extends beyond those points.

ould the narrower nose cone on 5 (versus 3 and 4) mean they have miniaturized RVs or just using one or fewer larger RVs?
 
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North Korea unveiled a new submarine-launched ballistic missile (#SLBM) during the regime's latest military parade. The missile is the latest development in a series of Pukguksong SLBMs and is known as the "Pukguksong-5ㅅ"
View: https://twitter.com/navalnewscom/status/1350030934280695810?s=20
 

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Experts split over NK’s nuclear missile threat

By Choi Si-young
Published : Jan 17, 2021 - 16:56 Updated : Jan 17, 2021 - 17:07

North Korea experts are divided over the seriousness of the threat posed by the missiles revealed Thursday at North Korea’s latest military parade attended by leader Kim Jong-un.

North Korea showcased what appeared to be new ballistic missiles -- a submarine-launched missile, the Pukguksong-5-siot and a short-range missile akin to Russia’s Iskander, the KN-23. The Korean letter “siot” refers to it being sea-based, and the previous fourth version was displayed at a parade in October.

Jeffrey Lewis of the Middlebury Institute of International Studies in the US told Voice of America that Pyongyang was not showing anything new.

“But the 5 looks like it has a longer payload section but looks like it’s basically the same. The same missile. So I think they’re messing around with the front end more than they are ... I mean I know people keep saying these things are getting bigger and bigger and bigger, but I don’t see that yet.”

Lewis added that there were still uncertainties surrounding the new weapons, given that the regime has yet to unveil a compatible submarine.

Joseph Bermudez, senior fellow for imagery analysis at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, had similar views for VOA.

“Okay, so we have to be very careful about what assessment we give to equipment we see or SLBMs that we see in this case. Because North Korea has always practiced camouflage, concealment and deception. They could probably ... there’s a good chance they’re trying to deceive us here.”

But, Shin Jong-woo, a senior analyst at the Korea Defense and Security Forum, disagreed.

“I wouldn’t entirely discredit the parade. Kim risks losing grip on power if his military and people find out everything was staged with totally empty weapons. Those weapons would have to be tested at some point.” The Pukguksong-5 could carry more warheads than the previous version, Shin added.

Ryu Seong-yeop, an intelligence analyst at the Korea Research Institute for Military Affairs, said the Pukguksong-5 is the rendition of what Kim said at the eight-day party congress: a more lethal nuclear missile. He noted the regime had continued work on a bigger payload, or multiple warheads.

Ryu went on to say that the KN-23, a short-range ballistic missile, appears to be an upgraded version of one showcased at the October parade. “The missile looks longer, which means a longer range.”

Shin said the latest KN-23 could be the tactical nuclear weapons Kim spoke of at the party congress, adding that it fits the description. The KN-23 is believed to put all of South Korea within range, while also posing challenges to interception by Seoul’s missile defense systems.

But Lewis was skeptical, telling VOA, “The front end of the fin is angled but the back end of the fin is straight. … That’s not a KN- 23. No, that’s something new. That is not an Iskander. Now that’s a different missile. That’s a brand new reveal that we have to work out what it is.”

South Korea’s military said it was still assessing North Korea’s latest missile technology, with one officer saying, “All the new weapons have not been tested. It would not be easy to see how far North Koreans have come.”

By Choi Si-young (siyoungchoi@heraldcorp.com)
 

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So does anyone want to start a pool on how long until Taiwan, Japan and South Korea go nuclear?

What makes you think they don’t already have ‘em? My money would be on them having the parts on tables, ready to assemble- if they don’t have ‘em already to go...

OA
 

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What makes you think they don’t already have ‘em? My money would be on them having the parts on tables, ready to assemble- if they don’t have ‘em already to go...

OA

I should have said "openly go nuclear". I like you assume that they are all to varying degrees members of the "Screwdriver Club".
 

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#IndoPacific czar Kurt Campbell calls for spreading out #US forces Campbell has called for spreading US forces out across SE Asia & the Indian Ocean, as opposed to the current heavy tilt toward #Japan, #SouthKorea & #Guam. Seeks to shore up #Asian order
Campbell served as assistant secretary of state for East Asian and Pacific affairs between 2009 and 2013, handling Japan and China policy. He was an architect of the administration's so-called pivot to Asia,
3) Campbell calls on Washington to disperse American forces across Southeast Asia and the Indian Ocean. "This would reduce American reliance on a small number of vulnerable facilities in East Asia," Campbell woite.
View: https://twitter.com/IndoPac_Info/status/1350713437723058176?s=20
 

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#IndoPacific czar Kurt Campbell calls for spreading out #US forces Campbell has called for spreading US forces out across SE Asia & the Indian Ocean, as opposed to the current heavy tilt toward #Japan, #SouthKorea & #Guam. Seeks to shore up #Asian order
Campbell served as assistant secretary of state for East Asian and Pacific affairs between 2009 and 2013, handling Japan and China policy. He was an architect of the administration's so-called pivot to Asia,
3) Campbell calls on Washington to disperse American forces across Southeast Asia and the Indian Ocean. "This would reduce American reliance on a small number of vulnerable facilities in East Asia," Campbell woite.
View: https://twitter.com/IndoPac_Info/status/1350713437723058176?s=20

Kurt M. Campbell
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Kurt Michael Campbell, AO, CNZM is an American diplomat and businessman, who formerly served as Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs. He is the chairman and CEO of The Asia Group, LLC, which he founded in February 2013. Wikipedia
Born: 1957 (age 64 years), Fresno, CA
Spouse: Lael Brainard (m. 1998)
Party: Democratic Party
Education: University of Oxford, University of California San Diego, St Cross College
Organizations founded: Center for a New American Security, The Asia Group

Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs
In office
June 29, 2009 – February 8, 2013
PresidentBarack Obama
Preceded byChristopher R. Hill
Succeeded byDaniel R. Russel

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Taiwan military stages drill aimed at repelling China attack
Taiwanese troops using tanks, mortars and small arms staged a drill aimed at repelling an attack from China, which has increased its threats to reclaim the island and its own displays of military might
By The Associated Press
18 January 2021, 19:40

Soldiers take part in a military exercise in Hsinchu County, northern Taiwan, Tuesday, Jan. 19, 2021. Taiwanese troops using tanks, mortars and small arms staged a drill Tuesday aimed at repelling an attack from China, which has increased its threats

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Soldiers take part in a military exercise in Hsinchu County, northern Taiwan, Tuesday, Jan. 19, 2021. Taiwanese troops using tanks, mortars and small arms staged a drill Tuesday aimed at repelling an attack from China, which has increased its threats to reclaim the island and its own displays of military might. (AP Photo/Chiang Ying-ying)

HSINCHU, Taiwan -- Taiwanese troops using tanks, mortars and small arms staged a drill Tuesday aimed at repelling an attack from China, which has increased its threats to reclaim the island and its own displays of military might.

“No matter what is happening around the Taiwan Strait, our determination to guard our homeland will never change,” said Maj. Gen. Chen Chong-ji said, director of the department of political warfare, about the exercise at Hukou Army Base south of the capital Taipei.

Chen said the exercise was intended as a show of Taiwan’s determination to maintain peace between the sides through a show of force.

The drills are also meant to reassure the public the military is maintaining its guard ahead of next month’s Lunar New Year festival, when many troops take leave.

Hukou base lies in Hsinchu county, a center for Taiwan's high-tech industries that have thrived despite the constant threats of invasion by China, which considers the self-governing island democracy part of its own territory to be conquered by force if necessary.

Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen has sought to bolster the island's defenses with the purchase of billions of dollars in weapons from key ally the U.S., including upgraded F-16 fighter jets, armed drones, rocket systems and Harpoon missiles capable of hitting both ships and land targets. She has also boosted support for the island's indigenous arms industry, including launching a program to build new submarines to counter China's ever-growing naval capabilities.

China's increased threats come as economic and political enticements bear little fruit, leading it to stage war games and dispatch fighter jets and reconnaissance planes on an almost daily basis toward the island of 24 million people, which lies 160 kilometers (100 miles) off China’s southeast coast across the Taiwan Strait.

Along with world’s largest standing military, numbering around 2 million members, China has the largest navy, with approximately 350 vessels, including two aircraft carriers and about 56 submarines. It also possesses around 2,000 combat fighters and bombers and 1,250 ground-launched ballistic missiles, considered a key strategic and psychological weapon against Taiwan.

Taiwan’s armed forces are a fraction of that number, with much of its ground force consisting of short-term conscripts, and its fleet numbers only around 86 vessels, roughly half of them missile boats for coastal patrol.

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zealotbat

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Well, i have said it before.......I have been wrong in about 99.5% of everything I thought would happen. So let me see if i can up that % a little.

Just posing a question, as to when the waters quell enough for China to cross and attack Taiwan for the big win?
Will China still do the long game there?
Or will they test his (Biden) weakness right away.
 

jward

passin' thru
PUBLICATIONTaiwan’s submarine-building planJanuary 2021
Volume: 27
Comment: 1
Publisher: IISS



Taiwan’s submarine-building plan

Taiwan has been attempting to expand its small submarine fleet for 20 years, first by trying to purchase submarines from the United States and Europe, which failed, and now by building the submarines itself. The so-called Indigenous Defense Submarine programme seeks to build eight modern diesel-electric submarines over roughly the next decade. While the programme faces several technological and political challenges, if it succeeds, Taiwan will significantly increase its ability to resist a potential invasion by China.

Taiwan announced in November 2020 that it had begun building its first domestically designed diesel-electric submarine at a new facility in Kaohsiung. It had attempted to purchase eight such submarines from the United States beginning in 2001, but those efforts failed because the US Navy had long since stopped building conventionally powered submarines in favour of nuclear propulsion. European suppliers had also proved unwilling to sell to Taiwan in the face of Chinese opposition. The current plan for Taiwan’s so-called Indigenous Defense Submarine (IDS) programme is to build eight new submarines at an estimated cost of up to US$16 billion, which would increase the size of its fleet from effectively two today to ten a decade from now. The first new indigenous submarine, now under construction, is scheduled to be completed as early as autumn 2024.

Conventional submarines, even in relatively small numbers, are one of the best means for a weaker naval power to defend itself from seaborne invasion by a stronger power. When Taiwan’s president, Tsai Ing-wen, announced the new programme, she said that submarines were ‘important equipment for the development of Taiwan’s navy’s asymmetric-warfare capabilities’. This aligned the IDS programme with Taiwan’s Overall Defense Concept, announced in December 2017, which seeks to create a larger role in its force structure for smaller, cheaper and more numerous weapons to counter China’s ability to spend vastly more on combat aircraft and major surface combatants. While submarines are neither small nor cheap, they are among the most, if not the most, asymmetric of traditional platforms.

 

OldArcher

Has No Life - Lives on TB
PUBLICATIONTaiwan’s submarine-building planJanuary 2021
Volume: 27
Comment: 1
Publisher: IISS



Taiwan’s submarine-building plan

Taiwan has been attempting to expand its small submarine fleet for 20 years, first by trying to purchase submarines from the United States and Europe, which failed, and now by building the submarines itself. The so-called Indigenous Defense Submarine programme seeks to build eight modern diesel-electric submarines over roughly the next decade. While the programme faces several technological and political challenges, if it succeeds, Taiwan will significantly increase its ability to resist a potential invasion by China.

Taiwan announced in November 2020 that it had begun building its first domestically designed diesel-electric submarine at a new facility in Kaohsiung. It had attempted to purchase eight such submarines from the United States beginning in 2001, but those efforts failed because the US Navy had long since stopped building conventionally powered submarines in favour of nuclear propulsion. European suppliers had also proved unwilling to sell to Taiwan in the face of Chinese opposition. The current plan for Taiwan’s so-called Indigenous Defense Submarine (IDS) programme is to build eight new submarines at an estimated cost of up to US$16 billion, which would increase the size of its fleet from effectively two today to ten a decade from now. The first new indigenous submarine, now under construction, is scheduled to be completed as early as autumn 2024.

Conventional submarines, even in relatively small numbers, are one of the best means for a weaker naval power to defend itself from seaborne invasion by a stronger power. When Taiwan’s president, Tsai Ing-wen, announced the new programme, she said that submarines were ‘important equipment for the development of Taiwan’s navy’s asymmetric-warfare capabilities’. This aligned the IDS programme with Taiwan’s Overall Defense Concept, announced in December 2017, which seeks to create a larger role in its force structure for smaller, cheaper and more numerous weapons to counter China’s ability to spend vastly more on combat aircraft and major surface combatants. While submarines are neither small nor cheap, they are among the most, if not the most, asymmetric of traditional platforms.


Too few, too little, too late... Thanks to libreal trash of current and past liberal presidents, we’ve right and truly screwed the Taiwanese... Fugedabout gettin help to them, with Bidet at the helm... They’re dead men (and women), walking...

Damned shame, is what it is...

OA
 

jward

passin' thru
Life is rarely as dark nor as doom-filled as we'd think, elsewise we'd be dead a dozen times o'er by now...
..and I fervently hope you are wrong this time :: sad worried eyes ::
Too few, too little, too late... Thanks to libreal trash of current and past liberal presidents, we’ve right and truly screwed the Taiwanese... Fugedabout gettin help to them, with Bidet at the helm... They’re dead men (and women), walking...

Damned shame, is what it is...

OA
 

OldArcher

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Life is rarely as dark nor as doom-filled as we'd think, elsewise we'd be dead a dozen times o'er by now...
..and I fervently hope you are wrong this time :: sad worried eyes ::

Me too, jward... Don’t rightly have a time frame, but the clock is tickin’ fer both Taiwan an‘ Communist China... Spineless/Brainless Status Quo Joe an‘ his Ho, don’t care about Taiwan... Hell, let ‘em come to our deserts and swamps, an’ let ‘em work miracles there... Shucks, they’re the type ta turn lemons in ta lemonade... We need such people, an‘ it’d keep the rat bastid Chinee from slaughterin’ ’em.

OA
 

jward

passin' thru
With Trump gone, Moon hopes to fix the diplomatic deadlock with North Korea

On Biden’s first day, South Korea’s president urged him to help undo the Hanoi Summit’s long-lasting effects
Jeongmin Kim January 21, 2021
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Ever since former U.S. President Donald Trump walked out on North Korean leader Kim Jong Un at the Hanoi Summit nearly two years ago, negotiations with Pyongyang have largely fallen into a diplomatic deadlock.
But with a new president freshly inaugurated into the White House, South Korean President Moon Jae-in is now calling on his American ally to help undo that damage. On Thursday, Moon vowed to work closely with President Joe Biden to resume denuclearization talks, and he also asked top South Korean officials to make a “proactive” last-ditch effort to save relations with the DPRK.

“After the collapse of the Hanoi talks, we urge you to end the long deadlock as soon as possible and make a new breakthrough in U.S.-North Korea and inter-Korean dialogue to do your best to make the clock of peace move again,” he said in a keynote address at the country’s rare National Security Council (NSC) plenary session. Like the Hanoi Summit, the last plenary session was held nearly two years ago, in April 2019.
“The government will continue to work closely with the new Biden administration to advance the peace process on the Korean Peninsula and make every effort to return to dialogue and cooperation with North Korea,” Moon said. Earlier in the day, he also congratulated Biden by saying “America is back.”
Earlier this month, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un reportedly condemned South Korea for planning to improve its own military arsenal. But on Thursday, Moon emphasized in his speech that “strong national defense is the foundation of peace” and urged officials to speed up improvements to South Korean military technology through artificial intelligence and drones.

More broadly, Moon also used the NSC plenary session to review his administration’s last four years of work and to carve out a plan for inter-Korean relations for 2021.
According to a work report submitted by the unification ministry, Seoul aims to restore the inter-Korean liaison channels this year, with an end goal of establishing permanent missions — a diplomatic body similar to an embassy — in Pyongyang and Seoul.
The unification ministry “will make efforts to resume high-level talks,” the report stated, adding that it hopes to “explore ways to hold inter-Korean military talks and run an inter-Korean military committee.”
The report vowed to utilize the 2020 Tokyo Olympics as an opportunity for cooperation and further stated that the unification ministry will “expand and carry out cooperation projects in many fields, including tourism, after exploring creative solutions to overcome the realistic limitations due to sanctions against North Korea.”

According to the ministry, South Korea approved around $31.4 million worth of aid and miscellaneous items to the North since May 2017, and nearly $10.8 million worth of items were allowed to be brought to the South. Trade between the two countries is banned because of economic sanctions, but some of these items were goods needed for summits and other legal inter-Korean projects.
Meanwhile, in-person, inter-Korean talks took place on 36 occasions in the past four years, while 17,138 South Koreans have visited the North since May 2017.
Despite the soured relations, the unification ministry has set high expectations: While North Korea recently slammed inter-Korean cooperation projects as “inessential,” the ministry rehashed its old pitches of putting together a North-South joint COVID-19 response plan, conducting small-scale barter trade and paving the way for “independent” tourism to the border city of Kaesong and Mount Kumgang.
 

jward

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China boosting naval footprint at its southern tip, new satellite images suggest

By: Mike Yeo   23 hours ago



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China's aircraft carrier Shandong is docked at a naval port in Sanya in southern China's Hainan Province on Dec. 17, 2019. New satellite imagery from late 2020 suggests Beijing is beefing up its naval support infrastructure in the area. (Li Gang/Xinhua via AP)



MELBOURNE, Australia – China has continued to build up its air and naval forces in its southernmost province on the edge of the South China Sea, with deployments of more early-warning and anti-submarine aircraft over the past year and the construction of what appears to be a drydock large enough for aircraft carriers on the island of Hainan.

Satellite photos taken of the airbases at Lingshui and Qionghai on the southeastern and eastern coasts of Hainan on Jan. 12 show that there are eight and six large aircraft on the respective aprons, although the resolution of the photos was insufficient to identify the aircraft types.

Lingshui is currently a base for the KJ-500 airborne early-warning aircraft and other reconnaissance platforms of China’s People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN), with Defense News first revealing the presence of such aircraft at the base in 2017.

A high-resolution photo of the base taken on Dec. 3, 2020, and provided to Defense News by earth imaging company Planet Labs showed five KJ-500 airborne early-warning planes and three other, unidentified aircraft based on the Y-9 type, although it is unclear if the latter were regular airlifters or specialized intelligence gathering aircraft.

Five Shaanxi KJ-500 airborne early warning aircraft and an unidentified Y-9 sub-type seen at Lingshui Airbase on Hainan on Dec. 4, 2020. (Satellite image courtesy of Planet Labs)
Five Shaanxi KJ-500 airborne early warning aircraft and an unidentified Y-9 sub-type seen at Lingshui Airbase on Hainan on Dec. 4, 2020. (Satellite image courtesy of Planet Labs)

Meanwhile, Qionghai is the base of a regiment of KQ-200 long-range, anti-submarine and maritime-patrol aircraft belonging to the PLAN’s South Sea Fleet or SSF. The airport was primarily a civilian facility, although an extension to the apron was started in 2016 while the airport was being built. It eventually became home to the KQ-200s.

The KJ-500 and KQ-200 are derivatives of the Shaanxi Y-9 turboprop airlifter. They were readily identifiable due to their distinctive dorsal radar rotodome and rear fuselage-mounted magnetic anomaly detection boom, respectively.

Satellite imagery first captured seven of the anti-submarine aircraft on the ground in July 2020, although Chinese state media published photos of KQ-200s of the SSF at an unidentified airfield, which Defense News has geolocated to Qionghai, earlier in February last year.

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Defense News had earlier reported on the deployment of the first KJ-500s to the SSF at Lingshui in March 2017, followed two months later by noting KQ-200s were also at the base, which has also hosted detachments of BZK-005 unmanned aircraft used for intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance missions.

Infrastructure upgrades

In addition to deploying new aircraft, China has also been upgrading the infrastructure at PLAN facilities in Hainan. An airbase in Hainan’s main city of Sanya is being refurbished with the construction of a new apron, at least eleven new hangars and resurfacing of other taxiways being built in a construction blitz that started in January 2020.

The base is likely to continue its current role of hosting helicopters, light transport and unmanned aircraft, with its mile-long runway too short to safely operate larger aircraft without significant lengthening. Any attempt at such an undertaking would however be complicated by the urban sprawl surrounding the base one three sides and the ocean on the other.

Meanwhile, construction of what is believed to be a new dry dock large enough for an aircraft carrier is continuing apace. A high-resolution satellite photo taken on Dec. 3 and provided to Defense News by Planet Labs shows the facility being built will have a large graving dock approximately 1,150 feet long and a smaller one measuring about 700 feet.

The suspected drydock under construction at China's Yulin Naval Base Complex, as seen on this satellite photo dated Dec. 3, 2020. (Planet Labs image)
The suspected drydock under construction at China's Yulin Naval Base Complex, as seen on this satellite photo dated Dec. 3, 2020. (Planet Labs image)

Construction of the new facility began in 2016, and if confirmed to be a naval dry dock, will be long enough to support China’s aircraft carriers as well as destroyer and cruiser fleets.

The new facility is being built at the PLAN’s massive Yulin naval complex east of Sanya, which already boasts berthing facilities for the entire range of PLAN vessels, including its aircraft carriers, conventional and nuclear-powered submarines.

The PLAN has already deployed both of its commissioned aircraft carriers to Yulin, along with the first ship of the new Type 075 landing helicopter dock, which is currently undergoing sea trials and has not been officially commissioned into the PLAN.

The Type 075 was captured on satellite photos taken over Yulin in November and late December 2020 and published by the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies.

This is in addition to the second Type 055 cruiser to be commissioned in to the PLAN being noted at Hainan at about the same time, with claims that this ship will be assigned to the SSF.

The extended deployment of the Type 075, together with the expansion of the helicopter base at Sanya, suggests that the PLAN is set to continue assigning the majority its newest and most capable amphibious ships to the SSF.

The additional aircraft deployed to Lingshui and Qionghai will strengthen China’s air and maritime domain awareness of the waters and airspace over the South China Sea and the disputed islands and features that dot the waters. At the same time, the construction of additional airfield infrastructure and possible dry dock facilities large enough to support a carrier could enable a carrier to be based and maintained on Hainan.

Taken together, these steps will considerably beef up the SSF’s capabilities in the region, and will serve to reinforce China’s already massive power imbalance against the other claimants to the disputed islands and features in the South China Sea.

China is claiming ownership of the entire Spratly and Paracel island groups that lie within these waters. Beijing has reclaimed land around several of the reefs and features it occupies and built military facilities, including airbases, structures and harbors, on these artificial islands.

 
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