heelgeneral
Senior Member
This is what I was going to bring up. Since we're "transitioning" to solar, how is that supposed to work?
INSANITY The White House Admits It: We Might Need to Block the Sun to Stop Climate Change
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CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Wouldn't you rather quote something out of Revelation? LOL
CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Geez you must have 0.2 billion enemies. I mean since as of a couple of days ago it hit 8 Billion and they got the picture of the kid in like India who was number 8 Billion. How did they do that?????
Tell us how did you do it? I might want to use some of your tactics. I'm turning into a "stay off the lawn" type of guy.
Bubble Head
Has No Life - Lives on TB
For the last several years we have been subject to heavy chemtrails. Guess I can say chemtrails now without being told they don’t exist. This has been the coldest fall. Every night we bounce around zero degrees. We have been in sever drought for the last few years. Sometimes when outside our eyes start burning and have to be flushed out. All the effects I would expect from such a project. I would say we are a test sight for extermination. Words fail me to express my feeling towards the subhumans that scheme plans of destruction.
Cuz guess who gets that money.
db cooper
Resident Secret Squirrel
"The White House Admits It: We Might Need to Block the Sun to Stop Climate Change"
From a democrat point of view this is not insanity. Yes, those that actually believe something this surreal are insane, but of course such people make up a substantial portion of the rat base.
But let's look at it from a rational point of view. The lunatic majority of the party will actually believe this, thus get much support. Non party members brainwashed into believing it will likely support this. So such a project will be started, and this project will be massive and require numerous multi-billion dollar contracts to be issued.
For you see, the Ukrainian laundromat is about to end. They need a new way to siphon off tax dollars our great great grand children will be paying for. Let's face it, the public bought into covid and the Uke war, why not try something new and fresh, for climate change is real.
From a democrat point of view this is not insanity. Yes, those that actually believe something this surreal are insane, but of course such people make up a substantial portion of the rat base.
But let's look at it from a rational point of view. The lunatic majority of the party will actually believe this, thus get much support. Non party members brainwashed into believing it will likely support this. So such a project will be started, and this project will be massive and require numerous multi-billion dollar contracts to be issued.
For you see, the Ukrainian laundromat is about to end. They need a new way to siphon off tax dollars our great great grand children will be paying for. Let's face it, the public bought into covid and the Uke war, why not try something new and fresh, for climate change is real.
Blacknarwhal
Let's Go Brandon!
...eeeeeeehh-xcellent.
(in case you don't understand the reference: I Call this Enemy: the Sun, 1:37)
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CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Yeah and it also puts them in the same situation they are in now.
Going solar and blocking the sun = net stupid
Going electricity and closing power plants = net stupid.
Milkweed Host
Veteran Member
“I was delighted to hear that the U.S. government is funding a five-year research plan,”
"On Oct. 13, the White House announced that it was funding a five-year-research plan into one of the most controversial proposals for fighting climate change out there: geoengineering"
Two quotes above taken from the article.
They can't fund their own salaries, but will hire people for a five-year research plan
to block the sun. Yet, another plan to waste the taxpayer's dollars on an outcome
that could really screw things up.
I can't think of anything that the Biden administration has done that isn't anti-American.
"On Oct. 13, the White House announced that it was funding a five-year-research plan into one of the most controversial proposals for fighting climate change out there: geoengineering"
Two quotes above taken from the article.
They can't fund their own salaries, but will hire people for a five-year research plan
to block the sun. Yet, another plan to waste the taxpayer's dollars on an outcome
that could really screw things up.
I can't think of anything that the Biden administration has done that isn't anti-American.
Melodi
Disaster Cat
One of the many reasons I posted this article was because of those sentences. In reality, the White House doesn't fund much of anything, this has to either have gotten or they will have to ask for, congressional approval. Another reason I put this on the main forum, because it isn't just a "climate" story, it is also a political one.
Ractivist
Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
Many will believe this guys rant......sad, garbage in garbage out. HIs final graph of the tiny red sliver of deniers, what a joke.
So let me get this straight. Global warming is caused by us bad Westerners eating beef, farting, driving cars, heating and cooling our homes, cutting forests and over populating the earth. (China, India and third world countries' pollution doesn't seem to affect global warming.)
"They" in their wisdom, are going to solve the global warming and pollution problem by polluting the upper atmosphere of this planet in order to save us from extinction? Because they know how to pollute it correctly?
These are the same people who run the IRS, DMV's, elections, the CDC, etc.?
RUN!
"They" in their wisdom, are going to solve the global warming and pollution problem by polluting the upper atmosphere of this planet in order to save us from extinction? Because they know how to pollute it correctly?
These are the same people who run the IRS, DMV's, elections, the CDC, etc.?
RUN!
CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Not getting to technical it also talks about it being blocked out. Probably over in there a little later.
Ractivist
Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
They've done all the research they need. This funding will be a five year action plan, at the very least. Paying off a bunch of his fellow traitors. climate change hoax is the engine of change. Communism in one step.
Ractivist
Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
Liars, one and all.So let me get this straight. Global warming is caused by us bad Westerners eating beef, farting, driving cars, heating and cooling our homes, cutting forests and over populating the earth. (China, India and third world countries' pollution doesn't seem to affect global warming.)
"They" in their wisdom, are going to solve global warming and pollution problem by polluting the upper atmosphere of this planet in order to save us from extinction? Because they know how to pollute it correctly?
These are the same people who run the IRS, DMV's, elections, the CDC, etc.?
RUN!
LoupGarou
Ancient Fuzzball
I would bet that it could go "Black Whole Sun" as one big susnspot, sit like that for a few days or so, hold all that heat and other energy in, and then rip the scab off with one big @$$ed CME nailing our planet and everything else in an isotropic blast. With everyone getting a share of the pieces...
CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
From a human standpoint we'd probably say something like it's fake cuz it can't be done.
Probably the same thing they said to Noah.
But I get your point, we're just not sure how it gets done. BUT it will get done.
To-late
Membership Revoked
I am posting this as insanity rather than science because it is insane, and on the main forum rather than "Earth Changes whatever" because the White House/Administration is involved, which also makes this potentially politics and a potentially insane policy. I hope the funding for this never sees the light of day, the results could be catastrophic!
The White House Admits It: We Might Need to Block the Sun to Stop Climate Change
Photo Illustration by Erin O'Flynn/The Daily Beast/GettyWe’re entering the final days of COP27, the UN’s annual climate summit, and it’s safe to say that this year’s edition was disappointing—to say the least. It was widely panned by climate experts and activists and drew intense criticism for...news.yahoo.com
The White House Admits It: We Might Need to Block the Sun to Stop Climate Change
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Tony Ho Tran
Fri, November 18, 2022 at 9:40 AM·7 min read
We’re entering the final days of COP27, the UN’s annual climate summit, and it’s safe to say that this year’s edition was disappointing—to say the least. It was widely panned by climate experts and activists and drew intense criticism for being sponsored by the likes of Coca-Cola, the world's leading plastic polluter.
Moreover, like so many climate summits in the past, little action has actually taken place in terms of concrete climate action and policy. In fact, the argument could be made that the biggest decisions to fight climate change weren’t decided at COP27, but rather at the G20 summit between the U.S. and China. Similarly, the U.S. government also signaled last month that it’s looking into one of the most controversial and consequential climate change-fighting tactics yet.
On Oct. 13, the White House announced that it was funding a five-year-research plan into one of the most controversial proposals for fighting climate change out there: geoengineering, or the technologies and innovations that can be used to artificially modify the Earth’s climate.
The report will be dedicated specifically to a form of geoengineering known as solar radiation management. This is a technique that essentially involves spraying fine aerosols into the atmosphere to reflect sunlight away from the Earth. The idea is that, once it’s reflected, there’ll be less heat and temperatures will go down.
<div class="inline-image__caption"><p>World leaders gather in Egypt for COP27, an event widely criticized by climate experts and activists for being a hypocritical display of virtue signaling by elites.
The research plan will be modeling how SRM might impact the atmosphere and assess its viability as a potential technique used to “manage near-term climate risk.” Put it another way: We want to know whether or not we should include this in our “break glass in case of climate disaster” box.
While it sounds a bit bonkers, the world has actually seen inadvertent SRM before after large volcanic eruptions throw massive amounts of gas and debris into the atmosphere and block out the sun. The 1816 Tambora Volcano eruption in Indonesia resulted in what became known as “the year without a summer” throughout Europe and North America after temperatures sank by as much as 3 degrees Celsius.
For some context, the 2015 Paris Climate Agreement included a goal to keep temperatures from rising by 2 degrees Celsius (with a stretch goal of 1.5 degrees Celsius that we’ve completely shat the bed on). So a controlled version of SRM is often thought of as a viable method to prevent the worst climate disasters. Even the UN recognized the potential of this technology at COP27—much to the chagrin of many activists who are fervently against geoengineering.
"Geoengineering is a sign of industrial desperation," Panganga Pungowiyi, an organizer at the Indigenous Environmental Network, said during a panel at the climate summit.
Regardless, it’s a radical and potentially life-saving research plan—and it’s one that some of its oldest and ardent supporters believe is a cause for celebration.
Global temperature typically drops after a large volcanic eruption due to debris and gas reflecting sunlight away from the Earth.
“I was delighted to hear that the U.S. government is funding a five-year research plan,” Stephen Salter, a professor emeritus at the University of Edinburgh and marine engineer, told The Daily Beast. “It is an indication that, at last, they are taking the problem seriously.
For decades, Salter has championed geoengineering as a viable tactic in order to deal with the world’s worsening climate issues. He’s even invented several devices and systems that can tackle these problems such as the “Salter sink,” which was created in the wake of Hurricane Katrina in 2007 and that he said could cool ocean temperatures down enough in order to stop powerful storms from forming.
Salter was also one of the first researchers to propose SRM as a means to cool down the Earth. However, all of his proposals and ideas have largely fallen on deaf ears due to what he describes as the “stupidity of decision makers” in government. He has a bit of an ax to grind when it comes to this matter: In 2005, the U.K. government rejected his proposal to use SRM to prevent sea temperature rise.
That’s why the White House’s willingness to invest in solar geoengineering research is such a big deal. The U.S. government is recognizing that we might have to turn to incredibly drastic, experimental measures in order to stop climate disaster: blocking out the sun. If the U.S. does so, many other countries might follow as well.
“I hope that [the five-year-research plan] will encourage people in other countries and that some money will go towards engineering not just governance where most goes now,” Salter added.
But, of course, such a measure doesn’t come without risk. Geoengineering critics warn that it could have unintended consequences that ripple out all over the globe. [Ya think? Melodi]After all, when you spray aerosols into the atmosphere, they’re going to spread out. Its effects would be felt everywhere no matter where you initially sprayed it. This could lead to a butterfly effect of disastrous events.
For example, temperatures could dip so low that it results in crop loss—which we’ve experienced before in the year without a summer. Changes to the atmosphere could also intensify weather events like storms. Some research suggests that solar geoengineering could even spread diseases.
But Salter believes that the risks are often overstated. He asserts that SRM is also an entirely reversible system that can be stopped with “one mouse click” after which “the effects will be gone at the next rain shower.”[This feels like the opening of a grade B disaster movie - Melodi] SRM would just be a tactic that helps us buy time while we try to address issues like reducing carbon emissions.
Blocking the Sun Is a Risky Gambit for Fighting Climate Change. It May Also Be Our Best Option.
Also, the five-year-research plan from the White House would also be researching the dangers and risks associated with solar geoengineering. When we employ a method like this, it wouldn’t be without extensive modeling. We’d have at least a close approximation of what would occur if it does happen.
Besides, we might run an even greater risk if we do nothing at all.
“It’s like the airbags in your car,” Andrew Dessler, the director for the Texas Center for Climate Studies at Texas A&M University, told The Daily Beast. “You never want to use them, but you’ll be glad you had them when you do.”
Dessler believes that, while we should do all we can now to limit global temperature rise by aggressively reducing carbon emissions, it’s better to have solar geoengineering systems ready just in case we might need it in the future. To do that, then, we need to start researching the approach now—so we know what to expect when we do need to use it.
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“You can imagine a scenario where it’s 2040. Climate change is out of control. People suddenly realize, holy crap, this is awful,” he said. “You got to do something immediately. In that case, SRM might be your least bad option.
“It’s not the way you want to handle the problem,” he added. “The right way to handle the problem is to start cutting your emissions immediately, so you don’t get yourself into that situation. But I definitely see a pathway in the future where we do need to deploy it.”
As the adage goes, drastic times call for drastic measures. What does it say then that the U.S. government has decided to put some skin in the game and fund research and resources into solar geoengineering?[Perphaps it says they gave all gone crazy?- Melodi]
At the recent U.N. climate summit, Secretary-General Antonio Guterres announced that the world was on the “highway to climate hell.” Not only have we failed to reach the 1.5 degree Celsius threshold outlined by the Paris Climate Agreement, but we’re well on our way to blowing past the 2 degree Celsius goal as well.
That means that we’re increasingly finding ourselves with limited options. With our backs against the wall, an ocean rising to our feet, and the planet burning around us, we might have little choice but to use the airbag—and pray that it saves us all.
I don’t know wether to….
I do know, that insanity has gripped our government officials, AND,,, the minions that work in the governmental community.
TxGal
Day by day
I'm with ya there. I don't want to derail the thread and get eyes and heads rolling, but we've seen it here, too. We've watched the 'jet trails' laid in almost equal distances apart spread across the sky and ultimately cover it (have you noticed they aren't a solid straight line but have one side that's 'lumpy' or 'squiqqly' for lack of a better term? That seems to be the side that spreads the most). These are vastly different than 'regular' jet trails that just evaporate not long after the plane flies over. Then later when we're walking pastures we're finding that weird white webby stuff that some were saying were spiders floating down from the sky...uh-huh.
The idea of messing with the sky or weather is just a recipe for disaster. Good grief.
danielboon
TB Fanatic
We live in fascinating times. So many places to quote the word of God
To-late
Membership Revoked
Nowhere near soon enough.
SouthernBreeze
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Everyone needs to study up on the book of Revelation to see what lies ahead for humankind. It speaks of this very issue of the sun being darkened.
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wobble
Veteran Member
Im thinking Tommy Sheerer was murdered for a reason.
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Former Atascosa County Commissioner Tommy Shearrer, 54, found shot to death near Pleasanton
The Atascosa County Sheriff's Office is investigating the death of a former commissioner and prominent businessman north of Pleasanton.
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Owning the Weather (2009) - IMDb
Owning the Weather: Directed by Robert Greene. With Roger Angel, Ando Arike, Don Berchoff, Richard 'Heatwave' Berler. We've always wanted to control the weather. Now we may have to.
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wobble
Veteran Member
One of many other demented, insideous, ...and diabolical techno-totalotarianist dystopian scams.
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energy_wave
Has No Life - Lives on TB
If they block the sun, solar won't work and wind will diminish.
Dux
Veteran Member
That are associated with large universities, therefore are deemed brilliant
My favorite captain had PT shirts printed that said 'If we could shoot, we wouldn't have to run.'
pauldingbabe
The Great Cat
It's on. Like donkykong.
Better buck up for that takeover!
You don't mess with my kids or my coffee. If I don't have coffee, the things don't get done!
Hard red line there boys n girls!
pauldingbabe
The Great Cat
Oh yeah! He doesn't need any stinking 3 or 4D chess.
He is playing out of this galaxy chess!
Hahaha!
sleepyeddie
Senior Member
What we do know is that rigged elections and deadly vaccines are not enough.We really do…..we gotta draw the line, somewhere.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Who really knows what was in the last couple of bills that were passed this past year, or even last year. I've long suspected it was their greenie crap.
TxGal
Day by day
Yep, and crops will fail and trees will die - the lungs of the earth. Unbelievable.