HEALTH THE THIN ANTI-BIOTIC LINE GETS EVEN THINNER 10-15-2015

[Milk-maid]

Go back and reread the part you emphasized and your response, and then try and tell me once again the logic behind your assertion.

RR

Ok, so are you saying Clorox will kill you? Or that CS will kill you?

I know CS will kill things deep inside the body. Perhaps look at your statement again and make it more clear what you are saying.


This thread is about alternatives to Antibiotics, not Clorox.

 

[Freeholder]

Open a bottle and take a quick peek, if still pristine white, they should be fine if they'd been stowed at room temp or below since acquired.
If grey or orange spots, discard.

According to the NRC...
http://www.nrc.gov/about-nrc/emerg-...edness/potassium-iodide/ki-faq.html#kiexpired
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Is it safe to take KI tablets with an expired shelf-life?

Yes, potassium iodide tablets are inherently stable and do not lose their effectiveness over time. Manufacturers must label their products with a shelf-life to ensure that consumers purchase safe and useful products.

According to FDA guidance on Shelf-life Extension, studies over many years have confirmed that none of the components of KI tablets, including the active ingredient, has any significant potential for chemical degradation or interaction with other components or with components of the container closure system when stored according to labeled directions.
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- Shane

Thanks -- they are light orange with orange spots, so it's time to toss them, I guess. I don't consider it a waste, just thankful that nothing has happened that we needed them.

Kathleen

 

[Be Well]

I understand what your saying. The answer to the problem is to develop new antibiotics. Scare the sheeple and the politicians open the funding spigot. Money flows to big Pharma. It's always about the money.

The bugs just get resistant to the new ones. Using natural methods and NOT OVERUSING antibiotics is the only answer. And more cleanliness. With new drugs, then overused, it'll be the same thing over and over. And peoples' immune systems and health get damaged with profligate unnecessary use of any drugs.

 

[Doomer Doug]

Okay, I understand what people are saying. The cause of the current "antibiotic crisis," relate to the widespread use of antibiotics to treat animals, the massive use of antibiotics to treat ear infections in children; finally, the widespread use of antibiotic soaps, handwashes, etc. Until this is stopped, or at least reduced, we will continue to see bacteria become resistant.

Burning down a hospital is clearly the final action to be taken when dealing with an infection. Still, you would have to sterilize a health facility 100 percent. Further, prions for instance, the mad cow disease causer, require being heated to 1500 degrees to kill them. The standard autoclave is about 200 plus degrees.

My basic point is a post antibiotic society would have to deal with a whole lot of bacterial infections, diseases that are now "cured." Drug resistant TB has been around for a while, especially in Russia and other places.

I do think there are a range of "natural antibiotics" that will become increasingly important as antibiotics become useless. Before the invention of Penicilian in the 1940's garlic was widely used. In fact, it was called "Russian penicilian" due to the allicin, the part that stinks, being effective against both virus and bacterial infections.

Something as simple as "Tabasco Sauce," made from red peppers is very effective when mixed with water and drunk. You can kill bacteria by drying them out. This is what a lot of antiseptics really do to bacteria. I am not saying that once antibiotics can't treat many diseases and bacteria we don't have other options. I am saying antibiotics are the easiest, safest and fastest way to deal with bacterial, not viral, infection.

When I get an ear infection, I soak a Q-tip in rubbing alcohol and swab my ear. The rubbing alcohol kills the bacteria by drying it out. I eat garlic, hide in apartment, and have found that to be effective over time. I also drink "Tabasco water," and that helps.

I am talking about "super germs," that we have allowed to come into existence over the last several decades. I hope we don't go back to the time when an open cut was likely to be a death sentence. I hope we don't have to deal with a new "Black Death," the one that killed one third of Europe's population, by eating garlic and drinking "Tabasco Water." If we do, the death toll, especially with the airborne vector version of the disease, will be in the millions at least.

 

[Sacajawea]

Adino: here is a link to the ingredients. I remember asking at the time, if anyone knew the proportions - and as I recall, I've never heard anyone say they had that critical piece.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/m...antibiotic-resistant-mrsa-superbugs-1.3020735

 

[Meadowlark]

Any active antibiotics have to cross the blood barrier and be active specifically against dangerous bacterial agents without harming you at the same time. External applications, unguents and waters do not cross the blood barrier. So unless your eardrums are punctured, all the rubbing alcohol in the world is not going to cure your internal ear infection.

 

[kyrsyan]

Okay, I understand what people are saying. The cause of the current "antibiotic crisis," relate to the widespread use of antibiotics to treat animals, the massive use of antibiotics to treat ear infections in children; finally, the widespread use of antibiotic soaps, handwashes, etc. Until this is stopped, or at least reduced, we will continue to see bacteria become resistant.

Burning down a hospital is clearly the final action to be taken when dealing with an infection. Still, you would have to sterilize a health facility 100 percent. Further, prions for instance, the mad cow disease causer, require being heated to 1500 degrees to kill them. The standard autoclave is about 200 plus degrees.

My basic point is a post antibiotic society would have to deal with a whole lot of bacterial infections, diseases that are now "cured." Drug resistant TB has been around for a while, especially in Russia and other places.

I do think there are a range of "natural antibiotics" that will become increasingly important as antibiotics become useless. Before the invention of Penicilian in the 1940's garlic was widely used. In fact, it was called "Russian penicilian" due to the allicin, the part that stinks, being effective against both virus and bacterial infections.

Something as simple as "Tabasco Sauce," made from red peppers is very effective when mixed with water and drunk. You can kill bacteria by drying them out. This is what a lot of antiseptics really do to bacteria. I am not saying that once antibiotics can't treat many diseases and bacteria we don't have other options. I am saying antibiotics are the easiest, safest and fastest way to deal with bacterial, not viral, infection.

When I get an ear infection, I soak a Q-tip in rubbing alcohol and swab my ear. The rubbing alcohol kills the bacteria by drying it out. I eat garlic, hide in apartment, and have found that to be effective over time. I also drink "Tabasco water," and that helps.

I am talking about "super germs," that we have allowed to come into existence over the last several decades. I hope we don't go back to the time when an open cut was likely to be a death sentence. I hope we don't have to deal with a new "Black Death," the one that killed one third of Europe's population, by eating garlic and drinking "Tabasco Water." If we do, the death toll, especially with the airborne vector version of the disease, will be in the millions at least.

Prions have always been in existence. We just didn't know, or comprehend, their existence until relatively recently.

As far as the super bugs, well they've been around for a while. I still remember when something like C-Diff occurred only in a hospital environment but now folks are catching it in the general environment. And that is one tough, nasty bug.

Some things can be dealt with in simpler manners. I use a lot of "simple" cures for things that call for them.

But the two portions to the problem that haven't changed are 1) the over prescribing, and misuse, of antibiotics; and 2) the failure to take the full course of the antibiotic which results in a stronger bug requiring a stronger antibiotic. A lot of folks I know are being more careful about the overuse of antibacterial items. I know of more than a few moms that have gone back to the "wash your hands well" vs. the antibacterial gel stuff. And they use basic cautions and skills. But they also have docs who can't do basic blood work in house, or get results quickly, and therefore frequently end up with antibiotic prescriptions that may not be necessary.

 

[kyrsyan]

I would love to have access to old recipes like the one they found for MRSA. And like they learned, you have to follow the recipes as it is written. Each step is there for a reason. Makes you wonder how the original creator of the recipe made it.. How long they experimented to get it right and what led them down that pathway.. Especially given that they did not have the things that we have nowadays to prove the effectiveness and what it is doing.

 

[willowlady]

Sat, that thing about people only living to 30 or so back in the 'good old days' is partly an old wives tale (or a modern urban legend). A lot of babies and small children died; if you lived past childhood, you had a pretty good chance of making it to old age.

Unless you were a woman. And it depends on how far back the "good old days" go. In midieval times in England (Domesday stats), death in childbirth or complications thereof were one in four. Not clear whether that was women or births. Historically, there have always been a few old women around, but many don't make it to middle age. Not uncommon back then for a man to burn through three or four wives if he's healthy. I suspect pioneer women had the same kind of numerical risk statistics. That said, men also faced risks: Wars and minor injuries claimed many.

 

[Adino]

Adino: here is a link to the ingredients. I remember asking at the time, if anyone knew the proportions - and as I recall, I've never heard anyone say they had that critical piece.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/m...antibiotic-resistant-mrsa-superbugs-1.3020735

hey hey!

that's the one

thanks sacajawea

 

[beaglemama]

there was a story that came out some time recently about a middle ages book that had been found that contained recipes for antibiotics

i tried to search here and yahoo real quick but only came up w/ a story about bees and honey's antibiotic properties

but, iirc, researchers made one of the concoctions and tested its antibiotic properties and were surprised w/ the results

anyone else recall that story?

I think this may be what you're referring to
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/31/health/anglo-saxon-potion-mrsa/index.html
(excerpt - full article at the link)

It might sound like a really old wives' tale, but a thousand-year-old Anglo-Saxon potion for eye infections may hold the key to wiping out the modern-day superbug MRSA, according to new research.

The 10th-century "eyesalve" remedy was discovered at the British Library in a leather-bound volume of Bald's Leechbook, widely considered to be one of the earliest known medical textbooks.

Christina Lee, an expert on Anglo-Saxon society from the School of English at the University of Nottingham, translated the ancient manuscript despite some ambiguities in the text.

"We chose this recipe in Bald's Leechbook because it contains ingredients such as garlic that are currently investigated by other researchers on their potential antibiotic effectiveness," Lee said in a video posted on the university's website.

 

[Kathy in FL]

Contact killers will be relatively easy to combat. However aerosol killers like XDRTB (extra drug resistant tuberculosis) is going to be nearly impossible to combat if it becomes something common in given locations with within certain populations

 

[naturallysweet]

My Dad was paralyzed as a child for a year from something that started with a sore throat. When the war ended, a local doctor came home with some of the new meds(ie antibiotics), and he recovered and was able to walk again. It scares the bell out of me to go back to that time.

 

[Emilys]

Does anyone have a recommendation for a colloidal silver generator?