Legio XXI Rapax
2 years ago (edited)
A living proof that italian soldiers aren't coward or poor skilled, like some people that know nothing about Military life, think.
He is a former instructor of Italian Folgore Paratroopers Brigade.
C M
1 year ago
Also...
All of the French soldiers I ever met or trained with when I was in were really good as well. It was that they had/have bad officers and commanders and their soldiers take the flak for it. But yea Italy and the French have good troops but their officer corp is suspect at best.
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Legio XXI Rapax
Legio XXI Rapax
1 year ago
+Chad Murphy
True indeed, but today in Italy the situation is much better, the Ministry of Defence have builded up many centralized command for each specific task, as for example the COMFOSE (Comando Forze Speciali dell’Esercito) that is a SOCOM (Special Operation Command). The goal of the army chief of staff is to adopt a unique command able to coordinate various operational capabilities of the regiments as far as possible by standardizing training and creating the necessary interoperability to conduct special operations.
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C M
C M
1 year ago
+Legio XXI Rapax Well yea the historical bad reputation comes from WW1 and 2 not so much modern day events. But from an American perspective I can tell you the avg person doesn't respect the French or Italian troops and of course they would be wrong.
Legio XXI Rapax
Legio XXI Rapax
1 year ago
+Chad Murphy
WW2 maybe, but it was all anti-italian allies propaganda to soft the belly of the axis alliance.
I suggest you really to read what Rommel think about italians (and his equipment).
And to read what italians was capable to do in the battle of Isbuscenskij. 700 italian of the Savoia Cavalleria (Savoy Cavalry) armed only with swords and hand grenades, was able to defeat, only charging them, 2500 men of Russian 304th Infantry Division armed with american rifles, cannons and mortars.....at their home, and this was remembered as the last world historycal cavalry charge of all time (no one since today have defeated the russian at their home, only Italians).
Battle result: Italy won.
Italy: 32 dead, 52 wounded, 100+ horses killed
Russia: 150 dead, 300 wounded, 600 captured, 4 cannons and 10 mortars destroyed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge_of_the_Savoia_Cavalleria_at_Isbuscenskij
And not forget what Folgore division did in El Alamein, stopping the english infantry plus mechanized brigade, for 72 hours, outnumbered 10/1. Wasn't a case if English at the end of the battle give them the Honour Salute, called them "Lions".
If you want we would talk about the six italians of the Flottiglia X Mas (first real world seals, and not the SAS how english like to boost over the world) able to destroy in one hour the entire mediterranean fleet of England, in the battle of Alexandria?....(Churchill was so impressed by the italian seals tactics of the human torpedo, that he give the task to his engineer to built an equal torpedoes and build the SAS)
Or we would talk of how Austriacs usually call the italian soldiers of the Sassari brigade in WWI?....Dimonios (means Devils).
So my friend, don't believe at the anti-propaganda that allies (english and australian upon all) did to destabilize the axis, Italy did even to much, whit the equip that he have, in both wars. And at least Italy won the WW1...Germany lost both the wars, so Italians aren't good soldiers but Germans are good?....think with your head, read true historical facts, make your idea, don't believe in easy anti-propaganda.
isn't a case if today USA have a lot of trust in Italy as military allies, so much to give them the permission to arm his Reaper drones with the Hellfire missiles (only USA, UK and Italy have this permission of the USA congress). USA military apparate isn't stupid, they know which EU army is good, and which not.
And sorry if i seem rude with you, isn't my intention, i don't know well english so there's some language barrier from my point.
C M
C M
1 year ago
Yea you went off on a lot of nonsense there and didn't understand what I was saying. I was saying how most Americans think not how I myself think...so 0 of that applies to me.
Also yes the Germans have really good soldiers then and now and it isn't even disputed by anyone. As to them losing...yes Hannibal lost too and no one doubts how good he was...losing is going to happen to someone and the best don't always win.
Legio XXI Rapax
Legio XXI Rapax
1 year ago
+Chad Murphy
Sorry, you don't understand me, the speech i did isn't applied to you, but at the general vision average peoples have when they sopoke of Italy in a military way. So don't get offended, wasn't my intention, that speech is only a proved fact of the bravery (or not-cowardrice) of the italians, that's all.
Germans have really good soldiers?...yes, but their valour was disputed by Rommel itself, and i cite from the Rommel diary of war:
March 2: "The Italian, here in Africa, are good comrades and good and brave soldiers. If they had our means and our discipline, could compete with the best of our troops. The episode of Giarabub (attach a detailed report on the facts and on the figure of Major Castagna, of which the Ministry of Propaganda could use fine) reveals the qualities of courage of the Italians."
About the airforce:
"Flak consists of very old Skoda seventy-five millimeters, even the 1914-1918 war; I saw even antiquated bronze mortars, former Austro-Hungarian army ... The planes are worn and are not reciprocated. The Italian pilots make miracles. The reconnaissance equipment, Zecht tells me, are old Caproni, helpless and slow, deadly for those flying ... The torpedo planes are empirical and rudimentary: the only living thing is the value and courage of the pilots; our german aviator refuse to take off with equipment here called rightly "Totebahren" ("Coffins"). The Italians rifles are called model 91, because they are of the year 1891; The Italians do not possess machine guns, the six-tonne tanks are ridiculous."
Hitler himself admitted, "I would have won the war if I had German officers, but Italian soldiers."
As you see Rommel think all other things about italians as soldiers, and not what peoples would believe. Rommel itself had to admit that his soldiers refuse to fly with the planes of italians, cause they was scared to die.
Italians was almost without a war equip, this was the truth, and Rommel know that very well.
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Michael Lorenzo
Michael Lorenzo
2 years ago
like for Bruce Lee....
