WAR The Continuing Conflict in Afghanistan - Fighting in the Panjshir Valley 9/3/21

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Panel: Russia Conflicted by America’s Afghanistan Withdrawal - USNI News




U.S. Army soldiers board a C-17 Globemaster III aircraft prior to departure for Hamid Karzai International Airport, Afghanistan, in support of Operation Allies Refuge at Ali Al Salem Air Base, Kuwait, on Aug. 13, 2021. US Air Force Photo
Russia’s Afghanistan failures in the 1980s are driving the Kremlin’s thinking of how to deal with the Taliban and the possible rise of religious extremism near its borders, two scholars on Central Asia said Wednesday.

Pavel Baev, a professor at Oslo’s Peace Research Institute, said Moscow quickly changed from gloating over the American and NATO pullout in August to thinking “United States, you can’t just run away” from the situation it created.
A new large-scale deployment to neighboring states – Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Turkmenistan – or Afghanistan would be “one deployment too many” for Russian armed forces. He noted Russian troops are already deployed in large numbers to Syria, arrayed close to Ukraine and are now moving to the Arctic to protect Russia’s interests along the Northern Sea Route.
What Moscow wants from Washington is to unfreeze Afghanistan’s financial assets so the new government can begin functioning and to resume the flow of humanitarian aid into the country to prevent a much larger refugee crisis in Central Asia.
Russia’s fear is that a new refugee crisis would send more Islamist extremists back into Russia itself, he said.

The fear of more religious extremists inside their borders is a fear that Central Asian governments share.
Baev added that Afghanistan in the 1990s provided a safe haven for Chechen terrorists, whose terrorist attacks outraged Russian leaders and the public. Twice, the Kremlin had to send large numbers of troops into Chechnya to put down revolts of separatists.

Speaking for herself at the Center for Strategic and International Studies online forum, Erica Marat, the chair of regional and analytical studies at National Defense University, said Russia would be “really entering a crowded space” in a Taliban-ruled Afghanistan. Other regional powers watching events in Kabul and the countryside closely are Pakistan and India, as well as China, all with differing interests in the outcomes.
Baev said that so far there is no sign of close Moscow-Beijing coordination in dealing diplomatically or economically with the Taliban.
Marat added that even among the bordering states, there is not a uniform approach as to what happens now in Afghanistan. “Tajikistan is openly supporting resistance [to the Taliban] in Panjshir,” a valley about 100 miles from Kabul in north central Afghanistan. It has the largest concentration of Tajiks in Afghanistan and was a center of armed opposition to the Taliban in the 1990s.
Looking at the Collective Security Treaty Organization, created by the Kremlin after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact in the early 1990s as a counter to NATO, both agreed there was little chance of those nations jointly intervening in Afghanistan, or even Russia acting alone.

Russia maintains air bases in Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, but has little other military presence. China has a small base in Tajikistan as well, close to the Afghan border.
Baev said the organization has “a good, solid record of exercises,” but they have largely been small scale and have been concentrated on countering terrorist organizations like the Islamic State and al Qaeda affiliates and drug-trafficking.
So far, the Kremlin’s requests to these countries has been very limited.
“Russia is calling on Central Asia countries not to allow Afghan refugee crossings” that could eventually reach its borders. Although those nations closed their borders to air and land refugee traffic, their “borders are porous.”
The situation remains such that “Russia really doesn’t want to get involved” militarily in Afghanistan, Baev said. The Kremlin also has stayed away from direct intervention in Kyrgyzstan’s political turmoil over its presidential election. Moscow is “more focused in other regions” like the Asia Pacific.

 

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Reporter Discovers 'Thousands' Still Attempting to Flee Kabul, Including US Citizens and Green Card Holders
Dillon Burroughs​
Thousands of people are still seeking to flee Afghanistan, including Americans, more than three weeks after the Biden administration pulled U.S. military forces from the Taliban-controlled nation.
“Thousands of people are still trying to flee Taliban-controlled Afghanistan,” Fox News foreign correspondent Trey Yings wrote in a Twitter post on Thursday.
“U.S. Green Card holders. People who live and pay taxes in the United States are trapped.
“We met a man today who runs two businesses in Atlanta. He’s stuck with his family right now in Kabul,” he added.
Thousands of people are still trying to flee Taliban-controlled Afghanistan.
U.S. Green Card holders. People who live and pay taxes in the United States are trapped.
We met a man today who runs two businesses in Atlanta. He’s stuck with his family right now in Kabul.
— Trey Yingst (@TreyYingst) September 23, 2021
“We also talked to a group of former U.S. embassy workers,” Yingst added in another tweet.
“They are still in Kabul, despite promises they would be evacuated,” he added.
We also talked to a group of former U.S. embassy workers. They proudly showed me photos inside the embassy, working for the Americans. One had an email from the Deputy Chief of Mission. They are still in Kabul, despite promises they would be evacuated.
— Trey Yingst (@TreyYingst) September 23, 2021
Especially concerning was Yingst’s report that U.S. citizens remain trapped in the country.
“There are still U.S. citizens here as well. The daughter of that man from Atlanta has a U.S. passport,” Yingst tweeted.
“We’ve met multiple American passport holders still in Kabul. Some made it out on Qatari flights, others did not,” he said.
There are still U.S. citizens here as well. The daughter of that man from Atlanta has a U.S. passport. We’ve met multiple American passport holders still in Kabul. Some made it out on Qatari flights, others did not.
— Trey Yingst (@TreyYingst) September 23, 2021
Yingst’s latest video featured one man with a green card seeking help to escape Afghanistan.
Our live coverage from Kabul continues on @FoxNews. Tune in. pic.twitter.com/gLL3JOk0TU
— Trey Yingst (@TreyYingst) September 23, 2021
The report follows news last week of an elderly California couple who is returning home after being trapped in Afghanistan for weeks following the U.S. military’s departure from the country, according to California Republican Rep. Darrell Issa.
“This is a cause for celebration and the result of almost countless hours of work under very difficult conditions,” Issa said in a statement.

“Our team simply would not give up, and today it paid off and we got them home.”
The names of the couple are reportedly being withheld at the family’s request due to fear of violence toward relatives who remain in Afghanistan.
Issa’s office said it has helped 33 Americans and holders of American visas to escape Afghanistan.
“While we have made extraordinary progress, but we’re not stopping until everyone comes home,” Issa said.


 

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Erdogan says Taliban lacking ‘inclusive, encompassing leadership’

Turkish president says Ankara is willing to work with Taliban if the armed group formed a more encompassing government.
This is the second time the Taliban has ruled Afghanistan [Sidiqullah Khan/AP Photo]

This is the second time the Taliban has ruled Afghanistan [Sidiqullah Khan/AP Photo]
23 Sep 2021

The Taliban’s current approach and their interim government are not inclusive but Turkey is willing to work with them if the armed group formed a more encompassing government, President Tayyip Erdogan has said.

NATO member Turkey has been working with Qatar to operate Kabul airport for international travel after the Taliban took power and foreign countries withdrew from Afghanistan.

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Turkey welcomed the Taliban’s initial messages but said it would evaluate its engagement and recognition of the group based on their actions.
“Looking at the Taliban’s approach right now, unfortunately an inclusive, encompassing leadership has not been formed,” Istanbul-based broadcaster Haberturk quoted Erdogan as telling reporters after attending the UN General Assembly in New York.
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The Taliban has said it wants international recognition and financial help to rebuild the war-battered country, but the makeup of the new Taliban government poses a dilemma for many countries [File: Social Media/via Reuters]
“At the moment, there are only some signals [about] the possibility of some changes, that there may be a more inclusive atmosphere in the leadership,” Erdogan said.
“We have not seen this yet. If such a step can be taken, then we may move on to the point of discussing what we can do together.”

Erdogan’s comments came after Turkey’s ambassador to Kabul, Cihad Erginay, met Taliban Foreign Minister Amir Khan Muttaqi.
Erginay said on Twitter that he pledged “Turkey’s continued support to the Afghan people and commitment to build upon our historic ties”.
Earlier this month, the Taliban appointed hardline veterans to an all-male cabinet.
The Taliban has framed the cabinet as an interim government, suggesting that changes were still possible, but it has not said if there would ever be elections.

International recognition
Neighbouring Pakistan, a close ally of Turkey, has also been among the countries calling on the Taliban to establish an inclusive government.
Earlier this week, Prime Minister Imran Khan said in a Twitter post he “initiated a dialogue with the Taliban for an inclusive Afghan govt to include Tajiks, Hazaras and Uzbeks”.
The Taliban has said it wants international recognition and financial help to rebuild the war-battered country, but the makeup of the new Taliban government poses a dilemma for many countries.

Several of the interim ministers are on the UN’s blacklist of international “terrorists and funders of terrorism”.
The Taliban’s took over Afghanistan last month after its stunning victory on the battlefield, capturing more than a dozen provincial capitals in less than two weeks.
This is the second time the Taliban has ruled Afghanistan.
Their first rule, from 1996 to 2001, ended when they were removed by a US-led coalition after the 9/11 attacks.


 

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It doesn't get much press but the taliban are certainly NOT in control of afghanistan. ISIS-K just blew up 30 plus taleban at an eastern city. Both ISIS-K and al quadea are engaged in ongoing terror attacks nationwide against both shia muslims, which will eventually bring in iran. Pakistan shows complete insolence by demanding taleban participation in new york. China is starting to grok the taleban can't stop muslims from helping the uighbur tribes.
 

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Afghanistan Girls Soccer Team Given Asylum in Portugal



The girls on Afghanistan’s national soccer team were anxious. For weeks, they had been moving around the country, waiting for word that they could leave.
One wants to be a doctor, another a movie producer, others engineers. All dream of growing up to be professional soccer players.

The message finally came early Sunday: A charter flight would carry the girls and their families from Afghanistan—to where they didn’t know. The buses that would take them to the airport were already on their way.
“They left their homes and left everything behind,” Farkhunda Muhtaj, the captain of the Afghanistan women’s national team who from her home in Canada had spent the last few weeks communicating with the girls and working to help arrange their rescue, told The Associated Press. “They can’t fathom that they’re out of Afghanistan.”
Since the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, the girls, ages 14–16, and their families, had been trying to leave, fearing what their lives might become like under the Taliban—not just because women and girls are forbidden to play sports, but because they were advocates for girls and active members of their communities.
Late Sunday, they landed in Lisbon, Portugal.

In interviews with the AP this week, Muhtaj, members of the soccer team, some of their family members, and soccer federation staff, spoke about their final days in Afghanistan, the international effort to rescue them, and the promise of their newfound freedom.
The rescue mission, called Operation Soccer Balls, was coordinated with the Taliban through an international coalition of former U.S. military and intelligence officials, U.S. Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.), U.S. allies, and humanitarian groups, said Nic McKinley, a CIA and Air Force veteran who founded Dallas-based DeliverFund, a nonprofit that’s secured housing for 50 Afghan families.

“This all had to happen very, very quickly. Our contact on the ground told us that we had a window of about three hours,” said McKinley. “Time was very much of the essence.”
Members of the Afghanistan national girls soccer team Members of the Afghanistan national girls soccer team are seen in Lisbon, Portugal, on Sept. 21, 2021. (AP Photo)
Operation Soccer Balls had suffered a number of setbacks, including several failed rescue attempts, and a suicide bombing carried out by ISIS terrorists, the Taliban’s rivals, at the Kabul airport that killed 169 Afghans and 13 U.S. service members. That bombing came during a harrowing airlift in which the U.S. military has acknowledged it was coordinating to some extent with the Taliban.

Complicating the rescue effort was the size of the group—80 people, including the 26 youth team members as well as adults and other children, including infants.
Robert McCreary, a former congressional chief of staff and White House official under President George W. Bush who has worked with special forces in Afghanistan and helped lead the effort to rescue the national girls soccer team, said Portugal granted the girls and their families asylum.
“The world came together to help these girls and their families,” said McCreary. “These girls are truly a symbol of light for the world and humanity.”
The Taliban have tried to present a new image, promising amnesty to former opponents and saying they would form an inclusive government. Many Afghans don’t trust those promises, fearing the Taliban will quickly resort to the brutal tactics of their 1996–2001 rule, including barring girls and women from schools and jobs.
This week, the Taliban set up a ministry for the “propagation of virtue and the prevention of vice” in the building that once housed the Women’s Affairs Ministry, the latest sign that it is restricting women’s rights.

As the girls moved from safehouse to safehouse, Muhtaj, who is also a teacher, said she helped them stay calm through virtual exercise and yoga sessions and by giving them homework assignments, including writing autobiographies.
She said she couldn’t share details about the rescue mission with the girls or their families and asked them to believe in her and others “blindly.”
“Their mental state was deteriorating. Many of them were homesick. Many of them missed their friends in Kabul,” said Muhtaj. “They had unconditional faith. We’ve revived their spirit.”
Some of the girls spoke to the AP through an interpreter. They said they want to continue playing soccer—something they were urged to not do while they were in hiding—and hope to meet soccer superstar Cristiano Ronaldo, Manchester United’s forward and a Portugal native.

Wida Zemarai, a goalkeeper and coach for the Afghanistan women’s national soccer team who moved to Sweden after the Taliban ascended to power in 1996, said the girls were emotional after their rescue.
“They can dream now,” Zemarai said. “They can continue to play.”
By Alex Sanz

 

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jward

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I knew they were beheading them, as well as performing
punitive amputations, and public hangings.
.. I did not realize they were doing all those things all at
once to the same people : (

Really must stop taking lunch breaks at this site
 

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Walid Phares
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1h

So the #Taliban and other Jihadists seized the Afghan intelligence service... Do you know what it means?
https://twitter.com/timuridtimurid
لقد سقط جهاز الاستخبارات الافغاني بين يدي #الطالبان. هل تعرفون ما معنى هذا التطور؟



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They know the name and address of every informant, prosecutor, judge, activist, …..

7:44 PM · Sep 27, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
 

Doomer Doug

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Um, I will point out in this biden taleban love fest that no less than the Prime Minister of Pakistan, the English soccer player? or whatever just openly said that Afghanistan was on the verge of a "civil war." Gee, the whore press ain't covering that very much.

Next, in the what happened to ISIS-K category well they blew up several dozen Taleban in some city over there, since ISIS-K HATES THE TALEBAN so much they, well they blow them up, into teeny tiny pieces.

Yep, we now have jward not being able to eat lunch for the next six months or so, as "Survivor: ISIS-K and Taleban try to blow each other up" tv show goes global., along with "Where are Pakistan's nukes?"followed by, What are the Taleban or ISIS-K going to do with Pakistan's nukes? Followed by bigly, hugely explosions somewhere in CONUS, courtesy of our elite spy agencies hunting down all those white nationalists, even though it was those pesky Afghani refugees.
 

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Taliban takes on ISKP, its most serious foe in Afghanistan
Afghan group cracks down on ISKP (ISIS-K) members after a series of deadly attacks, but experts say it won’t be an easy task.
By Mujtaba Haris and Ali M Latifi
27 Sep 2021

The Taliban claims security “has been assured” in Afghanistan since it took over, and that the country has been saved from the “quagmire of war”. But a series of attacks carried out by an affiliate of the ISIL (ISIS) group in recent weeks has shattered those claims.

In the six weeks since the Taliban came to power, there have been reports of Islamic State in Khorasan Province, ISKP (ISIS-K), attacks and activity in the cities of Kabul, Jalalabad and Mazar-i-Sharif.

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On the evening of August 26, just 11 days after the Taliban takeover, ISKP claimed responsibility for a bombing at Kabul’s Hamid Karzai International Airport that killed more than 180 people and injured hundreds of others.

Several attacks have been reported in the city of Jalalabad, the capital of Nangarhar province, and one of ISKP’s most common targets. The recent attacks, including IED explosions, killed civilians and purported Taliban fighters.

In a Telegram message, ISKP claimed to have killed up to 35 Taliban fighters in Jalalabad – the Taliban has denied that tally.

Each of these instances has been met with harsh words from the Taliban, who continue to pledge to eradicate any forces loyal to ISIL.

Deputy Minister of Information and Culture Zabihullah Mujahid told Al Jazeera the Taliban is actively “hunting down those who are sowing chaos” in the country.

‘This is all your fault’
Taliban blamed the US for failure to prevent the airport attack, saying it “took place in an area where US forces are responsible for security”.

But in the immediate aftermath of the bombings, families of the victims directed their anger at the Taliban, whom they saw as failing to prevent one of the most lethal attacks in 20 years.

“This is all your fault; you all did this. You didn’t secure anything,” a relative of one of the victims could be heard shouting at the Taliban forces at the Italian-run emergency hospital in Kabul.

Relatives of victims who spoke to Al Jazeera also questioned whether the Taliban could take on a group known to have carried out increasingly brazen and audacious attacks. Attacks that show no sign of letting up.

Can the Taliban prevail?
While the Taliban has taken districts from ISKP in the past, eliminating this longtime foe is proving more difficult than the group will let on.

The Taliban launched a crackdown on ISKP members, reportedly detaining at least 80 purported fighters in Nangarhar – an ISKP stronghold.

The group also claimed to have killed Ziya ul-Haq – also known as Abu Omar Khorasani – the former leader of ISKP, in Kabul’s notorious Pul-e-Charkhi prison.

It has also been accused of killing Farooq Bengalzai, an ISIL leader from Pakistan who was reportedly killed while travelling in southwestern Afghanistan.

On August 28, the Taliban was accused of arresting Abu Obaidullah Mutawakil, a well-known Salafi scholar, in the capital Kabul. A week later, Mutawakil was found dead.

The Taliban denied any part in Mutawakil’s death, but that did little to ease suspicions. Furthering those doubts is the fact that within weeks of Mutawakil’s killing, the Taliban had also closed more than three dozen Salafist mosques across 16 different provinces.

There are fears the Taliban is borrowing from the playbook of former Afghan governments, who were accused of unlawful detentions, extrajudicial killings and of using labels like “Taliban”, “ISKP” and “al-Qaeda” to go after any unwanted elements without providing evidence.

Wesley Morgan, an author and journalist who has reported extensively on the US war in Afghanistan, says there is a fear that the Taliban “could label various groups as Daesh (ISIL) that aren’t, just like the US and Kabul, before them, did for decades.”

Though much of ISKP’s activity has been in Nangarhar, neighbouring Kunar has proven to be an especially valuable province for ISKP recruitment.

Experts and analysts say the Salafi interpretation of Islam followed by some Kunar residents is much more amenable to the hardline and highly sectarian views espoused by ISKP than the Hanafi school, which most of the country adheres to.

Defections
The Taliban, said Morgan, should act decisively against ISKP forces to avoid a very real danger: defections.

The Taliban leadership “don’t want disaffected or rogue fighters defecting in the hopes of seeing action” with ISKP, Morgan told Al Jazeera.

There is a historical precedent for this fear. One of the first leaders of ISKP forces in the southwestern provinces of Helmand and Farah was Mullah Abdul Rauf Khadem, a Taliban defector.

Before he left in 2014, Khadem had served both in the Taliban government of the 1990s and as part of their 20-year rebellion against the US occupation. Likewise, several high-ranking commanders of the Pakistani Taliban pledged allegiance to ISIL in 2015.

Morgan said taking out the Taliban’s “indisputable enemy” would prove much more enticing to their fighters than trying to sever ties with what meagre al-Qaeda forces still exist in Afghanistan.

“Targeting al-Qaeda could anger parts of their base, but taking out ISIL-K is an easy win,” he said.

Despite the Taliban’s claims that their group is unified, residents in major cities across the country have had direct run-ins with rogue Taliban fighters, whose hostility and aggression belie the “general amnesty” espoused by their leadership.

Acting Minister of Defence Mullah Mohammad Yaqoob specifically addressed these concerns in a recent audio message, saying: “There are some bad and corrupt people who want to join us … To fulfil their own interest or to defame us and make us look bad.”

Yaqoob added that any rogue elements among the ranks would be dealt with.

But for those Taliban members who long for battle, ISIL, the fearsome armed group known among Afghans for brutality and violence, may prove to be an attractive alternative.

International recognition
According to Morgan, if the Taliban is not able to eliminate ISKP, it will not be able to gain the international recognition it needs to be able to run the country.

In the weeks since former President Ashraf Ghani fled and the group took over the country, no foreign government, including longtime allies like Pakistan and Iran, has acknowledged the Taliban as the official government of Afghanistan.

It is not just diplomatic isolation that this results in. Global financial institutions and the US have frozen access to Afghanistan’s reserves, rendering the Taliban incapable of paying for the imports that feed the country.

When the Trump administration signed a peace deal with the Taliban in February 2020, it was with the assurance that the Taliban would sever ties with other armed groups, like al-Qaeda and ISIL affiliates, and would not allow any group to use Afghan soil to target the US or its allies.

Defeating ISKP, said Morgan, “is in the Taliban’s interest,” and it would be a clear indication that the Taliban, too, believes in “counterterrorism”.

Quite simply, “it’s a way to build up international goodwill,” said Morgan.

SOURCE: AL JAZEERA
 

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Lara Seligman
@laraseligman


BREAKING: For the first time, Gen. McKenzie acknowledges that he had a conversation with Taliban leaders in which they offered to let the US military take security for Kabul, first reported by
@washingtonpost

McKenzie says that was not in his instructions and he did not have the resources to undergo such an operation. Asked whether this offer was conveyed to the president, he says he does not know. But
@US4AfghanPeace
was present for the discussion.

McKenzie adds that he did not consider the discussion to be "a formal offer" and it was not the reason he was there. He says it was conveyed to his chain of command.
11:11 AM · Sep 29, 2021·Twitter Web App
 

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Lara Seligman
@laraseligman


BREAKING: For the first time, Gen. McKenzie acknowledges that he had a conversation with Taliban leaders in which they offered to let the US military take security for Kabul, first reported by
@washingtonpost

McKenzie says that was not in his instructions and he did not have the resources to undergo such an operation. Asked whether this offer was conveyed to the president, he says he does not know. But
@US4AfghanPeace
was present for the discussion.

McKenzie adds that he did not consider the discussion to be "a formal offer" and it was not the reason he was there. He says it was conveyed to his chain of command.
11:11 AM · Sep 29, 2021·Twitter Web App

This mess just gets deeper and deeper.... And to think that the Taliban could have been curtailed with a minimum of effort compared to the past investment and the mess we have now.....
 

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Gen. Milley and Gen. Austin blame the State Dept. for botched withdrawal

Jenny Goldsberry |
Sep 29, 2021



According to the senior Pentagon officials, the State Department is actually to blame for the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan. Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley and Defense Secretary Gen. Austin Lloyd said as much to House Armed Services Committee Wednesday. It was their second day of hearings with the committee.


“We provide an input, as I said in my opening statement, to the State Department,” Austin said. But he admitted the Ghani administration warned that “if they withdrew American citizens and SIV applicants at a pace that was too fast, it would cause a collapse of the government that we were trying to prevent.”



“We certainly would have liked to see it go faster or sooner,” Austin said. “But, again, they had a number of things to think through as well.”


Then, Milley took credit for his effective withdrawal of the troops in July. “I just want to be clear – we’re talking about two different missions,” Milley said. “The retrograde of troops . . . that is complete by mid-July, and that was done, actually, without any significant incident. And that’s the handover of 11 bases, the bringing out of a lot of equipment . . . that was done under the command of Gen. Miller.” Gen. Austin Scott Miller was the top general in Afghanistan before he transferred his authorities to Gen. Kenneth McKenzie, of US Central Command.


“Noncombatant evacuation operation is different,” Milley said, referring all withdrawals in late July and August. “Noncombat operation – that was done under conditions of great volatility, great violence, great threat.”


Ultimately, the U.S. military airlifted over 120,000 noncombatants between July and August. Their last airlift was on August 30th.

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Gen. Milley and Gen. Austin blame the State Dept. for botched withdrawal

Jenny Goldsberry |
Sep 29, 2021



According to the senior Pentagon officials, the State Department is actually to blame for the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan. Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley and Defense Secretary Gen. Austin Lloyd said as much to House Armed Services Committee Wednesday. It was their second day of hearings with the committee.


“We provide an input, as I said in my opening statement, to the State Department,” Austin said. But he admitted the Ghani administration warned that “if they withdrew American citizens and SIV applicants at a pace that was too fast, it would cause a collapse of the government that we were trying to prevent.”



“We certainly would have liked to see it go faster or sooner,” Austin said. “But, again, they had a number of things to think through as well.”


Then, Milley took credit for his effective withdrawal of the troops in July. “I just want to be clear – we’re talking about two different missions,” Milley said. “The retrograde of troops . . . that is complete by mid-July, and that was done, actually, without any significant incident. And that’s the handover of 11 bases, the bringing out of a lot of equipment . . . that was done under the command of Gen. Miller.” Gen. Austin Scott Miller was the top general in Afghanistan before he transferred his authorities to Gen. Kenneth McKenzie, of US Central Command.


“Noncombatant evacuation operation is different,” Milley said, referring all withdrawals in late July and August. “Noncombat operation – that was done under conditions of great volatility, great violence, great threat.”


Ultimately, the U.S. military airlifted over 120,000 noncombatants between July and August. Their last airlift was on August 30th.

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please see source for video
 

Doomer Doug

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Gee, not just traitors but IGNORANT FOOLS ALSO.

It doesn't even bother me anymore they won't be fired, or court martialed, Housecarl. I see a line of chinese soldiers and a ditch with some lime bags for their future.
The chinese like treason. They hate traitors. :ld:
 

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Our Next War in Afghanistan Is Already Looming. And It May Be Even Harder.
Travis Tritten,Stephen Losey

13-16 minutes


The dangers that kept the U.S. in Afghanistan for so long are already accumulating again, little more than a month after the last troops left in a chaotic withdrawal.
The al-Qaida terrorist group that drew America into the country two decades ago is poised to come back under the ruling Taliban regime, or it never left at all, depending on whom you ask.
It may be only one to two years before the group could again threaten the U.S. homeland, according to a conservative estimate the Defense Intelligence Agency and the CIA disclosed in September. Then, there was the last spasm of violence before the complete pullout of U.S. forces in Afghanistan -- a suicide bombing that killed 13 troops that was attributed to a competing terrorist group, the Islamic State-Khorasan.

Under that looming terrorism threat, former defense officials, lawmakers and experts believe a new U.S. military intervention in Afghanistan is likely, maybe even inevitable, in what could be an echo of the withdrawal a decade ago from Iraq that cleared the way for the rise of the Islamic State and years of horrific attacks, killings and more war.
"We are going to have to send U.S. military forces back in some form to Afghanistan," said Bradley Bowman, senior director of the Center on Military and Political Power at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies think tank. "I don't have a crystal ball -- I don't know if that is six months or six years -- but the disaster in Iraq took three years to unfold."
Then-President Barack Obama declared the Iraq war over in 2011. Over the next three years, the Islamic State group grew into a Mideast regional power with control of Mosul, Iraq's second largest city. It sponsored attacks in the U.S. and around the world, slaughtered ethnic minorities, and released videos of the beheadings of aid workers, tourists and journalists, including American James Foley, in a display of barbarity that swiftly drew recruits to form a pseudo-state before American forces returned.

Afghanistan, where more than 800,000 U.S. troops fought over four presidencies to ensure it wasn't a terrorist plotting ground, could be the site of the next war on terrorism. But this time, the military may face even tougher conditions, with the region's remote geography, a lack of bases on the ground, a Taliban regime in control of government, and allies who led a quick initial invasion victory 20 years ago either missing or in exile.
The Pentagon insists it can take out terrorist threats with "over the horizon capabilities," or long-distance surgical strikes. But there is skepticism over the effectiveness of such strikes, which would be carried out by troops and aircraft stationed more than a thousand miles away. A botched drone strike on Aug. 29 as the U.S. evacuated Kabul showed how such strikes can go wrong -- 10 civilians, including seven children, killed by mistake due to bad intelligence collected from the air.
"I would love to say we have this magic ability to reach in and kill any bad guy, and maybe we'll kill a few of them," Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.), an Air Force veteran who served in the war in Afghanistan, said in an interview. "But man, we run the real risk of just creating more enemies than we do killing them."

New World or Old Safe Haven
The White House sought to turn the page on the war and shift focus as the dust settled in Kabul, even as concerns grew.
President Joe Biden gave an address Aug. 31, telling the country that he "ended 20 years of war" and that the terrorist threat held at bay for so many years by a U.S. military presence had moved elsewhere. It was an effort to explain a military-led withdrawal and evacuation that saw desperate Afghans clinging to a plane departing Kabul, the deadly suicide bombing, and finally the tragic U.S. airstrike that killed only civilians.
"This is a new world. The terror threat has metastasized across the world, well beyond Afghanistan," said Biden, pointing to Syria, the Arabian Peninsula and Africa.
U.S. Marines with Special Purpose Marine Air-Ground Task Force - Crisis Response - Central Command assist with security at an Evacuation Control Checkpoint (ECC) during an evacuation at Hamid Karzai International Airport, Kabul, Afghanistan, Aug. 26, 2021. (Staff Sgt. Victor Mancilla/U.S. Marine Corps photo) 
Biden's top military adviser, Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley, and the head of U.S. Central Command Gen. Frank McKenzie would later testify on Sept. 28 to the Senate Armed Services Committee that they recommended maintaining troops in the country.

But the Pentagon would instead keep an eye on the region from afar, Biden said in his address. Afghanistan was a priority, but no longer a top priority.
On the same day as Biden's address, al-Qaida released a statement praising what it called a Taliban victory over the "filth of the Americans," according to a translation posted by the Long War Journal, a publication of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.
The United Nations Security Council had reported in June that large numbers of al-Qaida fighters and other extremists aligned with the Taliban remained in Afghanistan. The group was present in 15 of Afghanistan's 34 provinces but was laying low and minimizing communication with Taliban leaders to avoid international attention, the U.N. reported.
"In many ways, we're in the exact same place we were 20 years ago, and that is with a Taliban-al-Qaida safe haven in Afghanistan," Bowman said.

Top Pentagon officials acknowledged the terror group, which plotted the 9/11 attacks, still had a presence in Afghanistan during hours of questioning from the Senate committee on Sept. 28. The group's original leader, Osama bin Laden, was killed in a U.S. special operations raid on a Pakistan compound in 2011.
Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said there were still "remnants" in the Taliban-ruled country, and Milley told the committee al-Qaida exists and wants to regroup from there to strike the U.S.
"Folks, we are going to pay for what we just did," Sen. Tommy Tuberville, R-Ala., said during the hearing. "I got young kids, y'all got kids and grandkids, and we're going to be back in there fighting."

Few Levers Left to Pull
Any U.S. military return to Afghanistan would likely require a major emergency, something akin to the Islamic State group's surge through Syria and northern Iraq in 2014, said retired Gen. Joe Votel, who served as head of U.S. Central Command and U.S. Special Operations Command, and also led Army Rangers in the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.
Public horror and outrage fueled a years-long U.S. air campaign, which was assisted by a small number of ground troops working with local Syrian and Iraqi forces. A military presence remains in Iraq, but Biden ordered the combat mission to end this year.

"I could definitely see us responding to a threat [in Afghanistan], and I would certainly hope that we would," Votel said in an interview.
But he said any military operations are likely to focus more narrowly on specific targets there, rather than trying to solve conditions in the country that created them. The U.S. poured $2.3 trillion into rebuilding Afghanistan over the 20-year war in hopes of creating a functioning democratic government, according to Brown University's Cost of War project, though that government and its security forces crumbled within days during the Taliban advance over the summer.
Over-the-horizon capabilities, the airstrikes carried out from distant bases, are now the first line of defense, mainly because military options are otherwise limited following the withdrawal.
"We have very few levers in Afghanistan right now because we've completely pulled out," McKenzie said in his Senate testimony.

The U.S. military lost its ground base in Kabul, the partnership with elite Afghan commandos who were the most effective of the U.S.-trained troops, and much of its intelligence feed, making what was set to be a difficult mission over a remote, landlocked country even harder, said William Wechsler, senior director of the Rafik Hariri Center and Middle East Programs at the Atlantic Council.
"Whether we like it or not, we are now in a race, and the race is between the Salafi jihadists' predictable efforts to build external attack capacities and our efforts to establish an acceptably effective over-the-horizon counter-terrorism capability," said Wechsler, who served as deputy assistant secretary of defense for special operations and combating terrorism during the Obama administration.

Lack of Intel and Hard Geography
Austin told the Senate that the military's use of over-the-horizon strikes is fairly common and effective. He pointed to a September airstrike in Syria that the Pentagon said killed an al-Qaida terrorist leader.
"Over-the-horizon operations are difficult but absolutely possible, and the intelligence that supports them comes from a variety of sources and not just U.S. boots on the ground," Austin told the Senate committee on Sept. 28.
But Retired Gen. John Allen, now the president of the Brookings Institution, said that type of intelligence is crucial for such operations. Allen was the NATO International Security Assistance Force commander in Afghanistan, and also served as special presidential envoy to the Global Coalition to Counter ISIL, the U.S.-led group of nations that fought the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.

"Over-the-horizon targeting implies that you have eyes on the target, you've got some form of boots on the ground or intelligence development capability that's on the ground," Allen said in a Middle East Institute discussion Sept. 16. "We have none, we've basically given it up."
The last U.S. airstrike of the Afghanistan war, which mistakenly killed 10 civilians in a home near the Kabul airport, illustrated how horribly wrong operations overseen from abroad can go.
After receiving conflicting intelligence about the home being used by ISIS-K for a planned attack drawn from video captured by six Reaper drones watching from above, a strike team located abroad launched a Hellfire missile that killed an aid worker as well as seven children.
"I would reject a parallel between this operation and an over-the-horizon strike against an ISIS-K target, again, because we will have an opportunity to further develop the target and time to look at pattern of life," meaning long-term monitoring of targets, McKenzie said in a Sept. 17 briefing admitting the botched strike. "That time was not available to us because this was an imminent threat to our forces."

During the war against the Islamic State group in Iraq and Syria, the presence of special operators on the ground was key to targeting the enemy.
But the withdrawal and the loss of the Kabul airport and Bagram airport, one of the most capable and advanced in the region, has hobbled the ability to insert troops if needed and has put any U.S. aerial operations up against the difficult geography of the country.
"The distances here are considerable, and it's hard to cover the distances and sustain these efforts when you have a dynamic threat on the ground," Votel said.
Iran airspace is a no-go for the military, and Allen said Russian President Vladimir Putin will likely try to block any attempts by the U.S. to set up operating bases in the former Soviet republics of Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan that box in Afghanistan in the north.

U.S. military strikes could then be dependent on Pakistan giving clearance to fly through its territory. But Islamabad may feel pressure to ally with the Taliban government in Afghanistan, leaving access an open and troubling question as its relationship with the U.S. evolves post-withdrawal, according to Allen.
Pentagon spokesman John Kirby declined to say whether arrangements have been made with Pakistan for the U.S. to use its airspace for over-the-horizon strikes.
As intelligence and access have grown harder, the U.S. also faces a third challenge: the loss of local partners. Indigenous forces were key in both the early days of the Afghanistan war and the operations against the Islamic State in the Middle East.
Afghanistan's Northern Alliance opposition in the Panjshir Valley proved capable in 2001 and gave the U.S. military a toehold. A fledgling anti-Taliban resistance in Panjshir has now been snuffed out as would-be opposition leaders fled into neighboring countries.

The strategic difficulties with continuing military operations in Afghanistan, and the grim terrorism assessments, came as Congress and the Pentagon wrestled with the legacy of the 20-year war.
"I don't think it's pre-ordained that we're going to have to go back," Austin told senators.
The question is what would prompt the military to go back in, and whether it would take another attack on the U.S. homeland, Kinzinger said. Or would it require a steady drumbeat of attacks and atrocities like those committed by the Islamic State in the vacuum left in northern Iraq and war-torn Syria during the last decade?
"I think it's one thing to reintroduce troops into Iraq like we did, but Afghanistan is a whole different thing," Kinzinger said. "That's a frightening idea."

-- Travis Tritten can be reached at travis.tritten@military.com. Follow him on Twitter @Travis_Tritten.
-- Stephen Losey can be reached at stephen.losey@military.com. Follow him on Twitter @StephenLosey.
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The media has moved on from Afghanistan. But what is really going on there now?

There are a few dynamics going on which bear some inspection.

Firstly, and most importantly, there is something close to an economic collapse and a humanitarian crisis. There is some aid getting in (e.g. @WHO 14tns of supplies for 10k families) but it is a drop in the ocean compared to what is needed.

This is a real disaster unfolding and could easily cause the country and region to destabilise further. On top of this the Talibs have no money and can’t even pay their people. Taken together these are the number one issue.

The conflict is still continuing - either directly between IS & the Talibs (eg bombs & assassinations in Jalalabad & Kabul recently), or indirectly in the form of Talibs persecuting either former government people, or groups like the Hazaras. The latter stores up future trouble.

By conflict, of course, I mean the continuing 43 year civil war over land, water, feuds, positions of power, etc.

This, coupled with factionalism within the Taliban movement (see also lack of pay above), is another huge destabilising factor.

And this persecution of individuals and groups is linked to another factor - the fact that the Talib government doesn’t represent the country. It is basically centred on a few small branches of the Pashtun, a small number of provinces, and in the case of the Haqqanis, a family.

History tells us that you can’t govern Afghanistan without spreading power around. Everyone is armed, and all the surrounding countries and great powers have clients in the country and so if you don’t include, you invite resistance.

Which brings me onto my final bucket of issues: Afghanistan’s regional landscape.

Everyone is in a bit of a pickle because no-one was expecting the last gov to collapse so quickly.

And there are a lot of surrounding countries that have buyer’s remorse with the Talibs esp. Russia, Iran, Pak and China.

These countries all supported the Taliban to give the US a bloody nose (and to clear India out of Afg in the case of Pak). But now they are left holding the baby, and they don’t like it.

Paradoxically they would rather the US were there dealing with Afg than they have to do it, or worse, much worse, a regional rival steps in. Eg for Russia it’s a disaster that China gains influence, for Iran that Pak gains influence etc.

At least with the US (et al) the regional counties knew where they were.

But now they are left dealing with it (I think Biden is a fan of real politique and this was his plan) and it turns out they all have different interests that will be hard to meld into a whole.

Eg Uzbekistan is focussed on trade and the TAPI gas pipeline, Iran on water and drugs, China on the uighurs and BRI, Pak on India and TTP, Tajikistan v anti taliban, etc. They all want something different.

Except of course counter terrorism which they all agree on. But the terrorists are, quite literally, now the Afghan government. (At the moment they agree on not recognising the Talibs as well.)

And the only show in town to meld some sort of regional consensus is the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO), esp now Iran is joining. But they can only really agree on counter terrorism, so their members may end up going their own way.

Which doesn’t bode well for Afg. Read up the thread: humanitarian issues, continued factional conflict in the country and the Taliban movement, and regional countries going their own way in the country. How long till Afghanistan spins apart again?
 

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KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — An Islamic State suicide bomber struck at a mosque packed with Shiite Muslim worshippers in northern Afghanistan on Friday, killing at least 46 people and wounding dozens in the latest security challenge to the Taliban as they transition from insurgency to governance.

In its claim of responsibility, the region’s IS affiliate identified the bomber as a Uygher Muslim, saying the attack targeted both Shiites and the Taliban for their purported willingness to expel Uyghers to meet demands from China. The statement was carried by the IS-linked Aamaq news agency.

The blast tore through a crowded mosque in the city of Kunduz during Friday noon prayers, the highlight of the Muslim religious week. It was the latest in a series of IS bombings and shootings that have targeted Afghanistan’s new Taliban rulers, as well as religious institutions and minority Shiites since U.S. and NATO troops left in August.

The blast blew out windows, charred the ceiling and scattered debris and twisted metal across the floor. Rescuers carried one body out on a stretcher and another in a blanket. Blood stains covered the front steps.

A resident of the area, Hussaindad Rezayee, said he rushed to the mosque when he heard the explosion, just as prayers started. “I came to look for my relatives, the mosque was full,” he said.

The worshippers targeted in Friday’s were Hazaras, who have long suffered from double discrimination as an ethnic minority and as followers of Shiite Islam in a majority Sunni country.

The Islamic State group and the Taliban, who seized control of the country with the exit of the foreign troops, are strategic rivals. IS militants have targeted Taliban positions and attempted to recruit members from their ranks.

In the past, the Taliban managed to contain the IS threat in tandem with U.S. and Afghan airstrikes. Without these, it remains unclear whether the Taliban can suppress what appears to be a growing IS footprint. The militants, once confined to the east, have penetrated the capital of Kabul and other provinces with new attacks.

This comes at a critical moment, as the Taliban attempt to consolidate power and transform their guerrilla fighters into a structured police and security force. But while the group attempts to project an air of authority through reports of raids and arrests of IS members, it remains unclear if it has the capability to protect soft targets, including religious institutions.

The Biden administration condemned Friday’s attack. “The Afghan people deserve a future free of terror,” State Department spokesman Ned Price said in a statement.

In Kunduz, police officials were still picking up the pieces Friday at the Gozar-e-Sayed Abad Mosque. Taliban spokesman Bilal Karimi told The Associated Press that 46 worshipers were killed and 143 wounded in the explosion. He said an investigation was under way.

The death toll of 46 is the highest in an attack since foreign troops left Afghanistan.

The United Nations mission in Afghanistan condemned the attack as “part of a disturbing pattern of violence” targeting religious institutions.

A prominent Shiite cleric, Sayed Hussain Alimi Balkhi, called on the Taliban to provide security for the Shiites of Afghanistan. “We expect the security forces of the government to provide security for the mosques since they collected the weapons that were provided for the security of the worship places,” he said.

Dost Mohammad Obaida, the deputy police chief in Kunduz pledged to protect minorities in the province. “I assure our Shiite brothers that the Taliban are prepared to ensure their safety,” he said.

The new tone struck by the Taliban, at least in Kunduz, is in sharp contrast to the well-documented history of Taliban fighters committing a litany of atrocities against minorities, including Hazaras. The Taliban, now feeling the weight of governing, employed similar tactics to those of IS during their 20-year insurgency, including suicide bombings and shooting ambushes.

And they have not halted attacks on Hazaras.

Earlier this week, a report by Amnesty International found the Taliban unlawfully killed 13 Hazaras, including a 17-year-old girl, in Daykundi province, after members of the security forces of the former government surrendered.

In Kunduz province, Hazaras make up about 6% of the province’s population of nearly 1 million people. The province also has a large ethnic Uzbek population that has been targeted for recruitment by the IS, which is closely aligned with the militant Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan.

Friday’s attack was the third to target a place of worship or religious study in a week.

IS has also claimed two deadly bombings in Kabul, including the horrific Aug. 26 bombing that killed at least 169 Afghans and 13 U.S. military personnel outside of Kabul airport in the final days of the chaotic American pullout from Afghanistan.

IS also claimed a bombing on Sunday outside Kabul’s Eid Gah Mosque that killed at least five civilians. Another attack on a madrassa, a religious school, in Khost province on Wednesday was not claimed.

If Friday’s attack is claimed by IS, it will also be worrying for Afghanistan’s northern Central Asian neighbors and Russia, which has been courting the Taliban for years as an ally against the creeping IS in the region.

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Akhgar reported from Istanbul. Associated Press writers Kathy Gannon in Islamabad and Sarah El Deeb in Beirut contributed to this report.
 

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Since the start of the August rapid evacuation of US forces from Kabul, Russia has been flexing its military might in central Asia - in particular with military drills with its regional ally Tajikistan, geared toward protecting the porous border as Afghans fled the Taliban, which included national Afghan troops abandoning their posts in droves - which saw them also flee into other neighboring countries like Uzbekistan.

Reuters reports based on official statements that Moscow is now pledging to defend Tajikistan in the instance of a spillover in fighting or direct threats from terrorists launching strikes out of Afghanistan. Over the past weeks there have been reports that both Taliban and Tajik forces were engaged in troop build-ups on either side of the over 840-mile long border.
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The Tajik side has accused the Taliban of seeking to use ethnic Tajiks in northern Afghanistan as potential terror proxies to strike inside of Tajikistan, resulting in ratcheting border tensions and rival build-up of forces. Tajiks remain Afghanistan's second largest ethnic group, in many northern areas actually making up the majority of the local population.

"Russia is ready to protect its ally Tajikistan in the event of any incursions from neighboring Afghanistan, a senior diplomat was quoted on Friday as saying, amid Russian media reports of a militant Tajik group preparing a cross-border attack," according to Reuters.

"All necessary assistance will be provided to Tajikistan if required, both within the (Moscow-led) Collective Security Treaty Organisation framework and bilaterally," the Russian official, Deputy Foreign Minister Andrei Rudenko, said further as cited in Interfax.

"There are indeed reports that the Taliban cannot control the situation (in northern Afghanistan)... Still, we hope they will honor the promises they have made (about not attacking neighbors)," Rudenko added; however without provide further details.

From late July through August, Russia began openly ramping up its arms transfers to Tajikistan, and also bolstered its own military base in the country - especially by sending tanks. Also by late August the two allies conducted major military drills, which included aerial assets, simulating repelling terrorist attacks from border regions.
 

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Pakistan wobbles as TTP terror threat mounts

Islamabad's ceasefire with Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan falls apart in days as fears rise about the al Qaeda-linked group's true agenda


by FM Shakil October 8, 2021


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Pakistani troops patrol along Pakistan-Afghanistan border at Big Ben post in Khyber district in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province August 3, 2021. Photo: AFP / Aamir Qureshi

PESHAWAR – A ceasefire between Pakistan’s government and Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) announced on October 1 has broken down in a matter of days, ringing the first alarm bells that terror outfits are leveraging the Taliban’s takeover in Afghanistan to launch cross-border attacks.
In one of the assaults on Pakistani security forces, the TTP targeted a military vehicle in Spinwam, North Waziristan, killing five Frontier Corps soldiers just a day after Prime Minister Imran Khan acknowledged his government was in Afghan Taliban-facilitated talks with TTP representatives in Afghanistan.
The following day, on October 4, TTP claimed to have killed two Pakistani army soldiers in Ghariom Tehsil in Pakistan’s North Waziristan region in a sniper attack. The attack was a clear violation of the 20-day ceasefire, raising new questions about the TTP’s cohesion, command control and messaging.

TTP, a conglomerate of ethnic Pashtun Islamist militant groups, operates from Pakistan’s northwestern tribal area of North Waziristan and has been fighting the Pakistani state in various forms since 2007.
The group aims to overthrow Pakistan’s government and create an Islamic state ruled by sharia law, similar to the one the Afghan Taliban just established through force of arms in Kabul. It is also believed that TTP aims ultimately to achieve ethnic Pashtun rule in Pakistan, especially in border regions where the ethnic group is in the majority.

The Taliban’s government in Kabul is dominated by Pashtuns, to the exclusion of other ethnic groups like Tajiks and Uzbekis.
Adding to the volatile mix, TTP is also known to receive ideological guidance from al-Qaeda, though TTP leaders have denied having any direct links with the transnational terror group. TTP is also known to have received funds from Islamic State to conduct “outsource” attacks.
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A Tehreek-e-Taliban fighter in a file photo. The terror group is ramping up its attacks in Pakistan. Photo: Facebook

It’s clear by now that the Gul Bahadar group (GB) that claimed to represent TTP in recent “peace” talks and agreed to the 20-day ceasefire with Pakistani authorities has no sway over the terror group’s central leadership or on-the-ground fighters.

“Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan has never announced a ceasefire. The TTP fighters should continue their attacks wherever they are,” TTP spokesperson Muhammad Khurasani said in a statement on October 2.
TTP was banned soon after its emergence in Pakistan’s tribal areas in 2007 for killing hundreds of Pakistani civilians and security forces. The group was also behind the storming of an army public school in Peshawar in 2014, killing 150 people of whom at least 134 were students.
The outfit has long been riven by divisions, with various factions breaking away to form their own militant groups rooted in particular geographies. But in 2020, many of this militants reunited under the leadership of Noor Wali Mehsud, a merger that made TTP more deadly and capable of launching attacks.
The strong resurgence of TTP’s terror activities so soon after the Taliban’s takeover in Afghanistan is raising new concerns about Pakistan’s overall stability, including the security of its nuclear arsenal.
It has long been a nightmare scenario in Western capitals and elsewhere that Pakistan’s nuclear know-how leaks out to non-state Islamic militant groups. The US has designated TTP as a terror organization and over the years during the war in Afghanistan has killed its top leaders in drone strikes.

“There is already an uptick in terror activities in the country following the Afghan developments,” said Mansur Khan Mahsud, executive director of the Islamabad-based FATA Research Centre (FRC), an independent think tank.
“Several terror outfits including TTP, Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP), Tehreek-e-Nafaz-e-Shariat-e- Mohammadi (TNSM), Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ), Sipah-e-Muhammad Pakistan (SMP), Tehreek-e-Jaferia Pakistan (TJP) and Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) have already been operating in the country and there is a potential danger that the Afghan ‘jihad’ may spill over to Pakistan.”

Top US generals have claimed that the rushed withdrawal from Afghanistan has increased the risks to Pakistan’s nuclear weapons and overall security. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark Milley and US Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin expressed such proliferation concerns during the Senate Armed Services Committee meeting last week.
“We estimated an accelerated withdrawal would increase risks of regional instability, the security of Pakistan and its nuclear arsenals,” they said. When pressed on how Pakistan’s nuclear weapons are at risk of falling into the hands of terror outfits, they declined to elaborate, saying they would discuss this and other sensitive issues in a closed session with senators.
Pakistani officials are ringing their own alarm bells. At a weekly briefing in early September, the Pakistan foreign office said that the use of Afghan soil by TTP for terrorist activities inside Pakistan would figure high in bilateral talks with the new Taliban government.

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Taliban supporters gather to celebrate the US withdrawal of all its troops out of Afghanistan, in Kandahar on September 1, 2021 following the Taliban’s military takeover of the country. Photo: AFP / Javed Tanveer
Pakistan has since pressed the Taliban to ensure that TTP is not allowed any sanctuary in Afghanistan from which to operate against Pakistan.

Islamabad’s call on the Taliban to uproot through force TTP havens in Afghanistan has so far failed to yield any visible results. The Taliban’s inaction and the coincident surge in TTP terrorist attacks have caused the Pakistan army to order a crackdown on the TTP’s “sleeper cells” in the remote tribal region near the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.
Mansur Khan said the Pakistani government’s attempt to negotiate with the TTP via the Afghan Taliban was doomed to fail because Islamabad will never meet the TTP’s core demands, including independence for border areas.
“They want independent status for the tribal areas where they could enforce strict Islamic laws. Secondly, they would not pledge allegiance to the country’s constitution…The TTP chief Wali Noor Mehsud had resolved [in a CNN interview] to enforce his version of Islam and vowed that his group will continue its war against Pakistan’s security forces,” Mansur added.

“[The talks are] a maiden and strategic gesture from the TTP’s leadership and the call for an independent state in Pakistan’s tribal areas carries an intrinsic threat to the integrity of the country,” he said.

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Pakistan wobbles as TTP terror threat mounts

Islamabad's ceasefire with Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan falls apart in days as fears rise about the al Qaeda-linked group's true agenda


by FM Shakil October 8, 2021


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Pakistani troops patrol along Pakistan-Afghanistan border at Big Ben post in Khyber district in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province August 3, 2021. Photo: AFP / Aamir Qureshi

PESHAWAR – A ceasefire between Pakistan’s government and Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) announced on October 1 has broken down in a matter of days, ringing the first alarm bells that terror outfits are leveraging the Taliban’s takeover in Afghanistan to launch cross-border attacks.
In one of the assaults on Pakistani security forces, the TTP targeted a military vehicle in Spinwam, North Waziristan, killing five Frontier Corps soldiers just a day after Prime Minister Imran Khan acknowledged his government was in Afghan Taliban-facilitated talks with TTP representatives in Afghanistan.
The following day, on October 4, TTP claimed to have killed two Pakistani army soldiers in Ghariom Tehsil in Pakistan’s North Waziristan region in a sniper attack. The attack was a clear violation of the 20-day ceasefire, raising new questions about the TTP’s cohesion, command control and messaging.

TTP, a conglomerate of ethnic Pashtun Islamist militant groups, operates from Pakistan’s northwestern tribal area of North Waziristan and has been fighting the Pakistani state in various forms since 2007.
The group aims to overthrow Pakistan’s government and create an Islamic state ruled by sharia law, similar to the one the Afghan Taliban just established through force of arms in Kabul. It is also believed that TTP aims ultimately to achieve ethnic Pashtun rule in Pakistan, especially in border regions where the ethnic group is in the majority.

The Taliban’s government in Kabul is dominated by Pashtuns, to the exclusion of other ethnic groups like Tajiks and Uzbekis.
Adding to the volatile mix, TTP is also known to receive ideological guidance from al-Qaeda, though TTP leaders have denied having any direct links with the transnational terror group. TTP is also known to have received funds from Islamic State to conduct “outsource” attacks.
TTP-Pakistan-Afghanistan-Terrorism.jpg
A Tehreek-e-Taliban fighter in a file photo. The terror group is ramping up its attacks in Pakistan. Photo: Facebook

It’s clear by now that the Gul Bahadar group (GB) that claimed to represent TTP in recent “peace” talks and agreed to the 20-day ceasefire with Pakistani authorities has no sway over the terror group’s central leadership or on-the-ground fighters.

“Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan has never announced a ceasefire. The TTP fighters should continue their attacks wherever they are,” TTP spokesperson Muhammad Khurasani said in a statement on October 2.
TTP was banned soon after its emergence in Pakistan’s tribal areas in 2007 for killing hundreds of Pakistani civilians and security forces. The group was also behind the storming of an army public school in Peshawar in 2014, killing 150 people of whom at least 134 were students.
The outfit has long been riven by divisions, with various factions breaking away to form their own militant groups rooted in particular geographies. But in 2020, many of this militants reunited under the leadership of Noor Wali Mehsud, a merger that made TTP more deadly and capable of launching attacks.
The strong resurgence of TTP’s terror activities so soon after the Taliban’s takeover in Afghanistan is raising new concerns about Pakistan’s overall stability, including the security of its nuclear arsenal.
It has long been a nightmare scenario in Western capitals and elsewhere that Pakistan’s nuclear know-how leaks out to non-state Islamic militant groups. The US has designated TTP as a terror organization and over the years during the war in Afghanistan has killed its top leaders in drone strikes.

“There is already an uptick in terror activities in the country following the Afghan developments,” said Mansur Khan Mahsud, executive director of the Islamabad-based FATA Research Centre (FRC), an independent think tank.
“Several terror outfits including TTP, Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP), Tehreek-e-Nafaz-e-Shariat-e- Mohammadi (TNSM), Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ), Sipah-e-Muhammad Pakistan (SMP), Tehreek-e-Jaferia Pakistan (TJP) and Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) have already been operating in the country and there is a potential danger that the Afghan ‘jihad’ may spill over to Pakistan.”

Top US generals have claimed that the rushed withdrawal from Afghanistan has increased the risks to Pakistan’s nuclear weapons and overall security. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark Milley and US Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin expressed such proliferation concerns during the Senate Armed Services Committee meeting last week.
“We estimated an accelerated withdrawal would increase risks of regional instability, the security of Pakistan and its nuclear arsenals,” they said. When pressed on how Pakistan’s nuclear weapons are at risk of falling into the hands of terror outfits, they declined to elaborate, saying they would discuss this and other sensitive issues in a closed session with senators.
Pakistani officials are ringing their own alarm bells. At a weekly briefing in early September, the Pakistan foreign office said that the use of Afghan soil by TTP for terrorist activities inside Pakistan would figure high in bilateral talks with the new Taliban government.

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Taliban supporters gather to celebrate the US withdrawal of all its troops out of Afghanistan, in Kandahar on September 1, 2021 following the Taliban’s military takeover of the country. Photo: AFP / Javed Tanveer
Pakistan has since pressed the Taliban to ensure that TTP is not allowed any sanctuary in Afghanistan from which to operate against Pakistan.

Islamabad’s call on the Taliban to uproot through force TTP havens in Afghanistan has so far failed to yield any visible results. The Taliban’s inaction and the coincident surge in TTP terrorist attacks have caused the Pakistan army to order a crackdown on the TTP’s “sleeper cells” in the remote tribal region near the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.
Mansur Khan said the Pakistani government’s attempt to negotiate with the TTP via the Afghan Taliban was doomed to fail because Islamabad will never meet the TTP’s core demands, including independence for border areas.
“They want independent status for the tribal areas where they could enforce strict Islamic laws. Secondly, they would not pledge allegiance to the country’s constitution…The TTP chief Wali Noor Mehsud had resolved [in a CNN interview] to enforce his version of Islam and vowed that his group will continue its war against Pakistan’s security forces,” Mansur added.

“[The talks are] a maiden and strategic gesture from the TTP’s leadership and the call for an independent state in Pakistan’s tribal areas carries an intrinsic threat to the integrity of the country,” he said.

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Violence Undermines China’s Plans in Afghanistan, Risks Luring it Into Quagmire
A recent attack in Afghanistan carried out by a Uighur Muslim has shaken China’s top national security decisionmakers, who now question the value of promises from the Taliban.


By Paul D. Shinkman
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Oct. 14, 2021, at 3:36 p.m.


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China's top national security decisionmakers are stunned by a devastating suicide bombing attack in Afghanistan last week reportedly carried out by a Uighur Muslim, sources say, provoking Beijing to either disrupt its march toward greater investments in the Taliban government or to commit further to the quagmire that has stymied other superpowers for decades.
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The Islamic State group's affiliate in Afghanistan, known as ISIS-K, quickly claimed responsibility for the deadly attack at a Shiite Muslim mosque in Kunduz on Friday. But in an even more brazen and rare move, it also provided a crucial detail about the attacker, specifying that the bomber was of the ethnicity that largely originates from China's restive Xinjiang Province. Beijing's attempts to stamp out violent extremists among its Uighur population has emerged as perhaps its most sensitive problem at home and nearby, as shown through the lengths it's willing to go to quash the threat it perceives.
The highly symbolic nature of the latest attack has raised new concerns in China that its partners on the ground in Kabul are not following through on promises they made, including to prevent organizations fighting for Uighur causes from finding safe haven in Afghanistan. And it has prompted worries in Beijing that elements of the new ruling government in fact may be trying to exploit its interests there to draw greater investment and involvement.
"They seem to be in a real state of panic in terms of how to deal with Afghanistan," says a source briefed on the concerns by Chinese military officials and on their plans for the future, who like others spoke to U.S. News on the condition of anonymity.
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Principal concern lies in the growing – though debatable – suspicion in Beijing that the de facto leaders of Afghanistan's government are actually coordinating with elements of ISIS-K, also known as the Islamic State-Khorasan Province. Some world powers, including the U.S., dispute that claim and conclude publicly that the two groups are rivals. ISIS-K claimed its bombing in Kunduz served in part as retribution for the Taliban's willingness to cooperate with China.
Regardless of the intricacies, those who follow the situation closely say the Chinese have good reason to be spooked.
"This is the first major attack since the Taliban takeover," says Yun Sun, director of the China Program at the Stimson Center. "And it was carried out by a Uighur."
The news appears particularly ironic for the Chinese Communist Party following its outspoken campaign to capitalize on America's failed attempts to nation-build in Afghanistan and its embarrassing withdrawal this summer.
The Chinese Embassy in Washington, D.C. and its Foreign Ministry did not respond to requests for comment.

At the source of China's latest problem lies the Haqqani Network, sources say, the militant Islamic group with which the Taliban's traditional leaders have associated themselves and which has in recent years redefined the ambitions and power centers of the entire organization. Composed of descendants and affiliates of Afghan warlord Jalaluddin Haqqani, a veteran of the war against the Soviets, the U.S. government now considers it "the most lethal and sophisticated insurgent group" targeting American and allied forces in the region.
Its current leaders make up the elite cohort in Kabul with whom Chinese officials conduct their most serious business in Afghanistan.
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The Haqqanis have long enjoyed safe havens in the remote northern reaches of Pakistan, and began bolstering the Taliban at perhaps its lowest point in the U.S.-backed war in Afghanistan, reconstituting its leadership and healing fissures that emerged from infighting. They were rewarded after the fall of the U.S.-backed government in August when the Taliban installed the network's current patriarch, Sirajuddin Haqqani – among the FBI's most sought-after terrorists – as interior minister, overseeing the appointment of local governors and managing foreign fighter networks in arguably the most influential position in government.
China has since then seen Sirajuddin Haqqani's brother Anas and his uncle Khalil as among the most influential players with whom Beijing believes it can leverage economic and military deals in the war-torn country.

"There is a political decision that has been made: Engagement with the Taliban is essential and required for China in particular, and they have identified that the Haqqanis are the real authority and influence now in Afghanistan," the source says. "If China is to achieve anything in the country, it has to be through the Haqqanis."
Beijing secured rare concessions from the Taliban not to cooperate with Uighur extremists who may seek safe haven in Afghanistan to organize and carry out attacks in retribution for China's attempts to quell the restive Xinjiang Province. At home, China has already systematically detained and forcibly relocated as many as 1 million Uighurs in the far Western reaches of the country – what the Chinese Communist Party calls vocational education and training centers in the Xinjiang region but which Western powers consider genocide.
It has aired skepticism publicly about whether the Taliban would follow through on these pledges, including through a recent piece in its English-language Global Times news outlet, considered a mouthpiece of the Chinese Communist Party. The piece concluded, however, "In order to avoid terrorism spillover from Afghanistan, regional countries, including China, need to work more closely."

With those assurances in hand, Chinese officials, through interlocutors in Pakistan – its principal partner in the region – have already begun investing heavily in Afghanistan's mineral riches and positioning its vast resources for other economic projects, but only after whatever government rules in Kabul are able to establish security there. A Taliban spokesman on Thursday claimed China was willing to invest billions more.
Beyond monetary investments, Beijing has thrown its own reputation behind the Taliban, becoming the first international power to recognize it as the legitimate government there, as U.S. News first reported, and encouraging others to do the same.

In addition to exploiting opportunities in Afghanistan, China also sees stability in the war-torn country as useful to sustain heavy investments in neighboring Pakistan, particularly two transit lines known as the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor that grant Beijing access to the sea to its west.

The source said recent discussions centered on assurances that Chinese workers would be able to enter Afghanistan to staff these projects. China has previously expressed interest in occupying Bagram airbase at the invitation of Kabul as U.S. News first reported – another attempt to embarrass America. Officials in Beijing have even inquired about special dispensations to ship pork and local alcohol to prospective Chinese installations once projects are underway – akin to waivers that currently exist for Chinese workers in Pakistan as a way to boost morale and remind them of home.
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The investments are all at risk with the new concerns of duplicity from the Haqqanis and China's belief that they are at least communicating, if not directly coordinating, with ISIS-K. Many other world powers share that belief, though not all. A June report from the U.N.'s Sanctions Monitoring Team noted the differing conclusions among its member states but also assessed the two groups see some benefit in "joint venture attacks" and coordinate as such.
"The Chinese are coming into the realization that the Haqqanis are playing games with everybody," the source says.
"They will cooperate, but they also want financial benefits from a relationship," the source adds, "the Haqqanis do have a degree of infiltration in ISIS-K."
The details of the attack, however, don't necessarily represent only bad news for those seeking greater relations between the Chinese and the Taliban – or those looking to lure Beijing and its vast wealth into Afghanistan. Now the two sides are aligned in at least an overt understanding that China's concerns about the Uighurs are founded, justifying its need to conduct counterterrorism operations against them. What remains unclear now, however, is whether China is willing to take unilateral action.

"The attack does put China and the Taliban on the same side, and the counterterror cooperation could emerge as something more prominent in the bilateral relations," Sun says.
Ultimately, it remains unclear why the Haqqanis would support the Taliban on one hand while also acting complicitly in ISIS-K attacks against them, all while courting China. Some, including the Chinese, suspect that the Haqqanis may believe that China has staked so much already that the specter of instability in Afghanistan may actually draw it in further to help protect its investment.
And China's demonstrable ability to protect its citizens has emerged as another of its chief priorities as it expands its influence beyond its borders – magnified by a series of attacks in Pakistan against Chinese personnel carried out by insurgent groups supported by the Afghan Taliban despite assurances from Islamabad that it could provide stability and security.

"They need security. They can't look weak by having their people attacked. The Chinese are very particular about that one," says Bill Roggio, senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and founder of its "Long War Journal."
"It's funny that they think the Haqqanis are being duplicitous here. I'm not shocked one bit. They should be questioning everything," Roggio adds. "These terrorist groups are fungible."
The Chinese can somewhat rely on the Pakistanis to do something about these security problems, Roggio says. But he adds, "They can't rely on the Afghan Taliban."
Whatever the power balance currently, the instability in Afghanistan is clearly positioned to change in the near future.
Colin Clarke, a senior research fellow at private intelligence analysis firm The Soufan Center, is skeptical of clear connections between the Haqqanis and ISIS-K.
"To the extent that they exist, I think it's not as much organizational but rather based on the personal relationship of individual commanders," Clark says. "So, it may indeed be there, but it's not as strong as some have suggested.
But he adds, "That could change over time."

Regardless of these alliances, China must act soon.
"Beijing seems to feel there is now a race against time," the source says. "If the Chinese do not assert themselves in Afghanistan, they will lose the advantage, which may mean in the future going into these regions is going to be very hard."

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