POL The 124 States of America

MinnesotaSmith

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Interesting, if you can get past the libtard snarkiness in places.
It's IMO some indication of where boundaries will be post-CW2.


The 124 States of America: What the USA would look like if all the secessionist movements had been successful
  • Mansfield University professor Andrew Shears has developed a map showing how the USA would look if the secessionist movements throughout history would have been successful
  • Secession is when a state tried to withdraw from the USA union and form its own political entity
  • The map shows America as having 124 states
  • Secession attempts still occur today
By DAILY MAIL REPORTER

1 January 2014

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Imagine if all the secessionist movements in the history of the United States were successful.

Imagine if all the proposals put forward for states to withdraw from the union of the Unites States actually went ahead, how would America look today?

Those questions have been answered by a map that predicts the alternate universe of the USA based on all the threats or aspirations to secede from the United States.

The map, created by Mansfield University geogapher professor Andrew Shears, breaks the country up into 124 states.



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The west and middle America: Take a look at some of the proposals for new states that have popped up over the years. California would be split into five states. Texas would become five, as well

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The East: New York City and Long Island would be their own states, separate from Upstate New York, which would be called 'Empire.' Florida is split into three states and the Mississippi and Alabama Gulf Coast becomes 'West Florida'

While some are almost laughable - such as Red Wisconsin and Blue Wisconsin, and Little Egypt - others make perfect sense, such as splitting Florida into north and south to protect Miami from the rest of the state.

Currently there's an attempt to create the State of Jefferson in north California and south Oregon.

A ballot initiative will decide whether it goes ahead in 2014.

Earlier this year, a handful of counties in Colorado tried to secede from the rest of the state.

Professor Shears said he came with the idea came from the serious possibilities at how different America could look and be today.

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Now that's more like it: The 50 united states of America look simple compared to Shears' map

'Most of my life, I've daydreamed about history — not so much the incredible depth of historical events that have already occurred, good thinking as that might be,' he told The Washington Post.

'No, I've constantly fictionalized history by changing the outcome of one event here and there and exploring the possibilities of what would have come next.

'Sometimes I come up with some utterly ridiculous progressions on these alternate timelines of whole new worlds based on relatively minor changes.'

Perhaps the most well-known secessionist movement was the State of Franklin, which existed for four and a half years before collapsing in 1789 and being re-admitted to North Carolina after it failed to support itself economically."
 

Magdalen

Veteran Member
While it's never been officially proposed, the people of Delmarva would dearly love most of New Castle County in Delaware (or at least the city of Wilmington and surrounding suburbs, including the "Chateau Region" where the snooty - including the Bidens- live) to be carved out and added to Pennsylvania. Cecil County, Maryland (affectionately known as "Ceciltucky") and "Lower, Slower Delaware" have no use for the parasitic liberals infesting the north.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Proud resident of Franklin here ...

And I knew about it before now from STUDYING history, not daydreaming about it.
 

sierra don

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Proud member of the state of "Kootenai"........living in the Kaniksu National Forest.

"Kaniksu," meaning "Black Robe," the name the Indians gave to the Jesuit missionary priests who worked among them.

The Kootenai Tribe of Idaho is a federally recognized tribe of Lower Kootenai people, sometimes called the Idaho Ksanka. The Ktunaxa, also known as Kutenai, Kootenay and Kootenai are an Indigenous people of the Northwest Plateau. They are one of five federally recognized tribes in the state of Idaho.
 
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Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Ah, Superior. The Yoopers have wanted their own state for the longest time now. I understand they feel a bit underrepresented, but there just aren't that many of them.

And when you're looking at fictional maps of America, my favorite is still Crimson Skies. Each of those separations is a completely different country.

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FREEBIRD

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Ah, Superior. The Yoopers have wanted their own state for the longest time now. I understand they feel a bit underrepresented, but there just aren't that many of them.

And when you're looking at fictional maps of America, my favorite is still Crimson Skies. Each of those separations is a completely different country.

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On what planet is that "People's Republic" any sort of possibility? Whoever came up with that has never been there.
 

FREEBIRD

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Also the map in the OP left out "Northern Colorado" (NE Colorado counties which sought to separate from Colorado in 2013).
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
On what planet is that "People's Republic" any sort of possibility? Whoever came up with that has never been there.
Well, it's a fictional map, like most of them are. That one supposes a flu epidemic back in about 1920 or so. The People's Collective turned into a Christian Communist enclave and is actually the second most powerful faction in the narrative.

If you want to know more, just look up "Crimson Skies." It has a wonderfully deep lore to it. The best part is the rise of air piracy that results from all that balkanization. Letters of marque and reprisal come back into vogue.
 

BadMedicine

Would *I* Lie???
figures Seward Alaska would not be i nthe State of Seward..... even today it does not fall on the Seward Peninsula...
 

Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane
The map in the OP does capture Pennsylvania pretty well when you take topography as well as the cultures of the original settlers into account.
 

pinkelsteinsmom

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I heard a man state this on the radio: to fix the demoncrap strongholds that rule over the rest of the conservative christians, pass laws adding the electoral college in every state. Would work just like it does nationwide and strip these communist strong hold cities of their votes.
 

tanstaafl

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From what I can tell the state of Cascadia doesn't actually contain any of the Cascade Mountains (or anything else with the name "Cascades" in it).
 

Josie

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Not surprising. Southern Illinois has been known as "Little Egypt" for about 100 years, since the once bustling town of Cairo is located in a southern most point and used to be a major port for river traffic. Western Illinois has been known as Forgottonia for as long as I can remember. It's all but forgotten by Springfield when projects and money is being passed out. All Illinois citizens south of I-80 WISH Chicago would just form it's own state and pretty much every time a new group gets seated in the state legislature, the idea of splitting is brought up.
 
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