GOV/MIL Texas House committee OKs full marijuana legalization bill

[KauKau]

Very true, you can simply juice the plant. It will reduce pain and inflammation better than any pharmaeutical. The plant in its acid form cannot get you high.

You can use a topical tincture or sauve

You can use it in an essential.oil form and help your pain. Simply titrate the dosage and you won't get high

You can use hemp.oils with concentrated form.of cbd. You need at least 20% cbd we have found

I wouldn't be afraid of.the high though, use it 2 hours before bed and get a proper rest.

So many options, all.good ones

 

[hunybee]

ok, well that is just stupid. so some guy wants to get rid of some serious pain in his back and go to work. this stuff would do that and not make him high andhe could still function normally and not have any issues with driving, but most states still say no to this. is it really just because it came from MJ? that's like people freaking out over hemp seeds

 

[KauKau]

We have found cbd's alone don't reduce inflammation like the whole plant. If you want the true benefits you need all the cannabinoids, terpenes, lipids, and even the chlorophyll.

Just fyi, there are better strains now than Charlotte's web. It's the way to go though. Distilling cbd's from hemp is not the best thing.

 

[KauKau]

Cbd's are legal in all 50 states. You can order it on the Internet anywhere in the usa.

It's a slower process building the cbd's into the system. The decrease in inflammation is better addressed through thc. Doesn't mean it won't work, it just takes a little longer for results.

Just a side note, we have three kids who sufferED through 3-4 grandmal seizures a week,,one spray of a properly dosed cbd spray stops the siezure instantly. What's really weird is the post-ictal.state is so dramatically reduced ypu barely notice the transition. This is why it's so infuriating reading about the misinformation being spread here. Once again, this is a prepping site. This is the best plant for collapse, period.

If we could get coco plants and infuse that essential oil into cannabis then we would have a super cure for just about everything. I can here the wheels turning allready, yes the plant that gives us cocaine,,,dam insane plant that I can't get,,,sucks

 

[imaginative]

Cbd's are legal in all 50 states. You can order it on the Internet anywhere in the usa.

Could you post a link or two to some sites that you recommend?

Thanks

 

[imaginative]

ok, well that is just stupid. so some guy wants to get rid of some serious pain in his back and go to work. this stuff would do that and not make him high andhe could still function normally and not have any issues with driving, but most states still say no to this. is it really just because it came from MJ? that's like people freaking out over hemp seeds

Not only is it stupid- its ****ing terrorism

Remember this story?...

Minnesota mom charged for treating son's pain with medical marijuana

MINNEAPOLIS, Minn. - A Minnesota mother is charged with child endangerment for giving her son medical marijuana to treat his pain, CBS station WCCO reports.

Angela Brown in Madison calls the cannabis oil a lifesaver for her 15-year-old son, Trey.

"No mother should have to hold their child so they don't hurt themselves," she said. "He didn't want to live."

He suffered a traumatic brain injury three years ago at a baseball game.

"It's been a very, very rough three years," said David Brown, Trey's father.

One pitch at a pickup game of baseball with friends would forever change Trey Brown's future.

"It just hurts in my brain everywhere," he said. "I really can't explain the pain."

That pain came in headaches, muscle spasms and seizures. It got so bad the teenager couldn't go to school and started to punch and cut himself.

"I was afraid to go to the bathroom, he'd be harming himself," Angela Brown said.

Nothing that came from Minnesota doctors seemed to work. Last winter, they left for Colorado where they found help.

"Within an hour of him taking it, we could tell a difference," Angela Brown said.

The Browns brought cannabis oil back home from Boulder, Colo.

"I felt better, the pain went away," Trey Brown said.

But when his school wondered what was helping him, teachers were not happy with his parents' answer.

"It was a week later when my mom called and said, 'The cops are looking for you,'" Angela Brown said.

Investigators seized the oil and charged Angela Brown with child endangerment and causing a child to need protection.

"The prosecutor's version of this is that a good mom allows her child to be in pain, to self-harm, and attempt to take his life," Angela Brown said. "I guess that's a good mom in his eyes."

Lac Qui Parle County Attorney Richard Stulz said he had no comment on the charges. He said the paperwork speaks for itself.

"He's got the muscle spasms, the pain, everything back to where it was before," David Brown said.

The Browns say they will handle their legal fight before likely starting over in Colorado, as their son waits in pain.

"I used to cry myself to sleep every night," Trey Brown said. "That was really hard."

Angela Brown faces two years in prison and a $6,000 fine if she's convicted.

The family was told that even when Minnesota's law takes effect next summer, they may not be able to access the same marijuana strain that's been working for their son. It's why they believe a move to Colorado is best.
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...-prison-for-helping-her-son.&highlight=angela

 

[RCSAR]

Is there a web page where I can track this bill?
I looked at the TX NORML youtube page and they seem to not be tracking it well at all.

I had been trying to follow the medical cannabis bill and it was pretty restrictive.

I had no idea there was a bill for full legalization of cannabis! This is really the only way to go when you look at it from a freedom and liberty perspective.

For that fact many medications should be over the counter where you do not need to spend the $$$ and get the permission from a Dr.

This is off topic but a chronic pain patient I know has to go to the Dr every month to get a script for meds. Before she would go every 6 months and get the same hydrocodone (90 days worth with one refill) which she has to go every month now for the same script with 12 Dr visits a year vs just 2. The medical profession is making a bunfle off this small law change. Not to mention the pain and cost in time and $$ she has to go through for the exact same care.


PS. Since I was in the neurologocal care provider industry for years dealing with seizure related injuries I am still in contact with many patients. So far I know of 4 families that have moved to Colorado so they don't risk jail here in Texas.Of course the Drs don't know why cannabis helps with seizures and pain as there is just not enough data yet. We have pissed off decades not doing real studies and collectin hard data. The Drs can just say "try the combo that works as there is no risk of overdose" this is due to the law and what they can say without getting in trouble.

 

[KauKau]

Hi imag...https://www.bluebird-botanicals.com/#2829

Check these guys out. I like them because they where originally an essentisl.oil company. (Which I think you would appreciate) They know their stuff. They are using Canna vest for their cbd source. We use them as well for our large bulk stuff. We have tested all.their stuff and it has always been clean and the proper percentage. (Sorry, we use canna vest hemp oil for our base)

PM bulldog as well, maybe he has stuff at their dispensary? If it's pure cbd, no thc they should ship country wide. I would send stuff out but we didn't launch as fast as I would have hoped. We will have things going in a couple months.

Rcsar,did you find my distillation process? I can write it out again if not.

Look up http://rainierdistillers.com/library/
Anthony is a peach of a human, read up on his weed witch distiller. It's an etoh steam distillation, you can make any essential.oil you need with it. Learn some cryogenic freezing techniques and you can get pure product that people would come for miles to barter for. I can't imagine having a better tool for collapse.

The oils are the healing, the propaganda is behind the smoking of it, the bongs and doobies and drugged out hippies is all Richard and be well see. I have survived 4 cancers now (long story but I've been gone due to another very real scare, I've been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer) I've also rehabilitated myself through this plant, I've had so much trauma to my body I was literally falling apart. But with this plant I'm able to thrive and live. So it's very hard to listen to out right rubbish when I see the exact opposite everyday. Crazy world

 

[RCSAR]

I have seen with my own eyes folks who have reduced the intake of seizure meds by half or more when using the oils.

Some use the juiced fresh plant and that is what facinates me.
I think THCa gets ignored too much.
I wish I had more data but science is working as fast as they can!

 

[KauKau]

Unfortunately there is not a lot of info on thc-a. I think the reason for that is the healing power, the bank's playing their games, as usual.

Hemp.seeds; good luck finding them,but if you can. Juice the two week old sprouts. Cbg is the base block for all.the cannabinoids. It seems to be a big key in the health puzzle. Due to being a base molecule it gets used up pretty quick. So it's hard to get a mature plant with high cbg. The sprouts have a ton of it. There are old wise tales of rastas in Jamaica that are well north of 100 years old. Most of them juice the weed and combine it with goats milk. The science seems to support it though. The enzymes in goat milk combine with the cannabinoids and terpenes, and it makes a drink I guess you could call the fountain of youth.. I have personally talked to these people and it seems to work. It's been working for me.

So here's the dealio on juicing. It ain't easy. The terpenes and the cbd's to thc ratio is perfect about two weeks before full trichome maturity. So about week 6 into flowering, maybe 7 or 8 if it's a sativa like blue dream. You need to juice the bud and fan leaves. I would say a 2oz to 8oz a day is target consumption. Sounds easy enough, but it takes a substantial plant size to get that amount of juice. You would need an acre of weed at all different stages, not an easy thing to do,,,,especially in texas, hahaha (land of the free my ass)
This is why I am pursuing the sprouts. But I can't find the seeds, and I'm f'ing connected out the assess and I still can't figure it out.

Here's a question for you smarty pants, how long does the juice stay viable? If you juice a cucumber or apple the enzymes in the juice degrade immediately. The cannabinoids are a chemical.compound that do not break down, but the plant has enzymes that initiate the folding of thc-a to convert it. So I juice it fresh. But I have frozen as well intot ice cubes and use a couple a cubes a day in my goat milk. If you have juiced weed you know the electrical charge you feel as you drink it ( crazy weird feeling) and I don't notice any difference in the strength of the frozen cubes. I am not sure about that one though?

 

[twobarkingdogs]

Lettuce hasn't been bred to make people super doped out and divorced from reality and often times hallucinating for hours...

No its been bred to look pretty, transport well cross country, and to have a long shelf life. Taste is an afterthought.


.

 

[BertaBurtonLake]

Lettuce hasn't been bred to make people super doped out and divorced from reality and often times hallucinating for hours...

neither has cannabis

 

[twobarkingdogs]

I'd like to freely answer any questions (short of those that would threaten OpSec) about MJ and the MJ Industry in Colorado.

Some of that is designed for either "couch lock" or "functional" high

Could you name a couple of strains which are best know for each of those types of highs?

Could you describe a typical MJ store. I figure it sells smokes and smoking products. Edibles, maybe hash and oils. How about seeds and plants. I figure with licensing you can't go down to your local HomeDepot and buy clones. Nor is Parks selling seeds yet. So where do you buy plants or seeds

Also if you know can you describe the lottery process to get the licenses to sell. I'm interested to see how they differ from the way liquor licenses used to be allocated in my state.

Thanks

.

 

[emporer13]

Honestly, probably no more than you already have now, studies be told...

That was my concern. Probably from reading news about more high drivers in states that have legalized it. But can't say how accurate the news was since I am so far away.

 

[KauKau]

Driving high won't have a lot of statics, most people high drive slower and actually pay More attention than sober drivers. I would be far more concerned about the soccer mom texting while driving all hoped up on soma and adderal. I don't think people.really understand how many drivers out there are completely smashed on prescribed pharmaceuticals. Seriously, I've cut more people out of cars for popping to many blood pressure pills than any amount of a thc overdose, hahaha

Im.sure bulldog has a great library of strains. It's deep out there, a lot of crossing going on. You really have to test them yourself to.really know. And one GDP is not the same as another. There are so many factors to consider, so many. Find a grower that is doing it organic seed to table. Order seeds from CA or europe. Find a plant that works for you and get a mom. Do the clones yourself. There is no reason to pay a shop to do any of this.

Shops in CA, offer everything. Seeds, clones, moms, oils, flowers, edibles and hot chick's (hahaha) and hot dudes (for the ladies)

A good strain will.cost though. We paid 25 grand for one original OG strain we have. I live on the ocean so the OG'S work well (Ocean Grown) if you are in a hot enviornment, sativa is a better option. They have hybrids that specifically grow at elevation. Lots to this field

 

[Uhhmmm...]

Ok, now that we have an authoritative source who will answer questions and dispel myths, all the nay sayers vanish. MBA, could you bottle some of this troll-be-gone? You would have yet another quite profitable business.

 

[twobarkingdogs]

I have put up.some info on how to make an essential oil and tincture in the prep.rooms. it gets very little attention unfortunately.

Could you please post a link for us search challenged folks. Thanks


.

 

[KauKau]

I tried, I can't find it? It was in the prep.room?

Look up.at the link to Raineer distillers I posted. He has 3 pages of YouTube videos. It's really simple. Look that up and then see if you have any questions. Ill.answer them from there. Ill.write out instructions for a simple distillation process tonight if you guys still have questions.
Look up.stoney gurl gardens, they are in Oregon. They have a YouTube channel on etoh distillation as well. They do a way better job than my horrible.explanations. I'm on a phone so it's really hard to type. Notice all the stupid periods? Sucks having giant sausage fingers, haha

This is a simple plant guys, don't be intimidated by the vocabulary or processes, you guys can do all of this at home. Simply do it and keep.the oils for you and your family. You can easily make pharmaceutical grade oils and tictures in a few hours.

The illegal.states, I'm not sure the answer. Personally, I would do a bit of guerilla growing, and not say shit. This plant can save your life or your kids. I'm not giving that up for nobody.

 

[mbabulldog]

Could you name a couple of strains which are best know for each of those types of highs?

Could you describe a typical MJ store. I figure it sells smokes and smoking products. Edibles, maybe hash and oils. How about seeds and plants. I figure with licensing you can't go down to your local HomeDepot and buy clones. Nor is Parks selling seeds yet. So where do you buy plants or seeds

Also if you know can you describe the lottery process to get the licenses to sell. I'm interested to see how they differ from the way liquor licenses used to be allocated in my state.

Thanks

.

White Dawg will melt you into your couch for a couple hours.

Orange Marihuana is also a good choice, so I've been told.

 

[mbabulldog]

Ok, now that we have an authoritative source who will answer questions and dispel myths, all the nay sayers vanish. MBA, could you bottle some of this troll-be-gone? You would have yet another quite profitable business.

lol! I'm not looking to bust anyone's horns, I just want everyone to know what's happening out in the real world, not what the propaganda would have you believe.

Is there abuse? Sure. But it's less than the abuse of alcohol. I've never heard of anyone getting high on MJ, starting a fight with a loved one, and the cops having to shoot them.

Can't say that about alcohol.

And yes, I do drink ;-) Love my Stranahan's and Makers Mark...

 

[mbabulldog]

Here everyone, go have a gander....

www.Lightshade.com

 

[mbabulldog]

Could you name a couple of strains which are best know for each of those types of highs?

Could you describe a typical MJ store. I figure it sells smokes and smoking products. Edibles, maybe hash and oils. How about seeds and plants. I figure with licensing you can't go down to your local HomeDepot and buy clones. Nor is Parks selling seeds yet. So where do you buy plants or seeds

Also if you know can you describe the lottery process to get the licenses to sell. I'm interested to see how they differ from the way liquor licenses used to be allocated in my state.

Thanks

.

Sorry, I missed the rest of your question(s):

There really isn't a "typical" store; we all try to be different from the competition. But, it CAN vary by municipality. For instance, in Denver you can sell Recreational, Medical, or both. But in Aurora you can only sell Recreational.

Some stores do sell seeds, though that's a VERY gray area as far as MED (Marijuana Enforcement Division) is concerned. Instead, some sell clones. All of our grows will harvest clones from successful Mother plants to start the next generation of harvest. It's easier to control the genetics (and sex of the plant, no one wants a male plant which produces seeds) when dealing with a clone vs. a seed.

It's not really a lottery to get a license, but you would think it was by the amount of vetting the government does on your background check. Each municipality has it's own licensing process, all are a bitch.

I regularly get phone calls from folks who want to start their own dispensaries, and here's the math I tell them: between finding a legally-zoned property that's available (that are going for TOP $ right now) for both your dispensary AND your grow, start-up costs, licenses, bonds, insurance, permits, and a myriad of other costs, you need to be LIQUID for no less than $5 million. That's no exaggeration, I've done the calculation. AND, you better be able to document where EVERY PENNY of that $5 million comes from, otherwise the MED will deny your license(s).

 

[Mixin]

You all need to remember that every individual reacts differently to drugs and alcohol.

Yes, some people can and do hallucinate on weed.
Yes, some people do get high on second-hand smoke.

Here's a good example of "WTH was this woman thinking?":

Oct. 26, 2001 at 1:38 PM
GOSHEN, Ind., Oct. 26 (UPI) -- An Indiana woman convicted of giving marijuana-laced brownies to Elkhart firefighters was sentenced to four years in prison on Friday.

A judge said Susanne Cole's prank last December had incapacitated 11 firefighters for part of their shift and was no joke.

Cole was convicted of two felony counts of battery on firefighters and two misdemeanor counts of criminal recklessness on Sept. 27 for baking brownies spiked with hash oil for firemen at the Central fire station in Elkhart.

"You, Mrs. Cole, apparently believe this was intended to be a joke," said Judge Terry Shewmaker Thursday. "In fact, this was a crime with potentially serious consequences."

The South Bend (Ind.) Tribune said Shewmaker rejected the weeping Cole's plea for leniency and sentenced her to the maximum 4-year prison term. Cole has a 14-year-old daughter.

Fire Chief Jerry Vaughn testified that a paramedic went out on a call while under the influence of drugs.

"It could have been critical to a patient," Vaughn said.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2001/10/26/Woman-gets-4-years-for-pot-laced-brownies/23161004117894/

 

[mbabulldog]

You all need to remember that every individual reacts differently to drugs and alcohol.

Yes, some people can and do hallucinate on weed.

We rang a little over 300,000 transactions last year; not ONE of them ever came back to us with reports of hallucinogenic effects of our product.

Yes, you can get high on second-hand smoke, but you have to work at it. And contrary to the popular myth of rolling down a car window and everyone inside is stoned, even non-participants, is fallacy. Some of the more creative ways of second-hand-high is taking a gas mask, raising the mask enough to inhale a bong or joint, and then your smoking buddy put on a mask that is also connected to yours. In essence, you share the same bud. Goofy kids trying goofy stuff, just like goofy kids doing funnel drinking or shotgun beer drinking is how I look at it...

Yes, that's extreme, but that's the extreme you need to go to for second hand smoke to affect you. I've had company-sponsored events for Christmas where the staff goes out back to "participate", and the cloud get's thick. I felt no contact high; and you know what, 2 days later I went and pissed in a bottle for my FAA card, and I came back clean...

 

[Mixin]

My first high: sitting on the couch with my boyfriend laying with his head in my lap, smoking. I didn't even realize I was high until a full-sized tv screen snail flashed on the screen. Granted, he had "really" good weed.

I don't have a problem with adults smoking as long as they stay off the roads. I do worry about the numbers of our youth who are doing drugs. Kids see their parents doing it and think it's ok. You reap what you sow.

 

[KauKau]

I would rather have a medic work me up stoned to his holy highness than a hung over tired medic anyday. Here's the funny thing, nothing happened to the patient. I worked with a lot of medics addicted to all kinds of stuff, and they constantly made poor decisions,,,never see much with guys high. I have stories, none of them include weed

I have a patient list in the thousands, I personally have never scene marijuana cause hallucinations. I've scene it make you vomit from.eatin to much, it can give you serious anxiety, certainly increases your heart rate, it will make you tired and sleepy, you can get hungry, some people get the spins when they eat to much, and I have had patients say they see streaks of color for a couple minutes when the acids finally break down the cannabis in your stomache. That's it from my experience. I have well over a 1000 stories of patients living a far higher quality lifestyle now they incorporate weed into their lifestyle, period.

I was a paramedic for LA County fd, i worked on the busiest squad in the nation. I have never been on a call for a mj od or a hallucinating episode, ever.

I can however go on and on about etoh, and legal pharmaceuticals,,like I mean forever

I think that story is funny as hell personally, did you see the video I posted up above? It was a friend surfing a 60' wall of death. He was high as a kite. A monkey could put out fires and load patients into a meat wagon, bunch of cry babies if they couldn't sit around all day a little.high and maybe go on a call or two, hahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
(I was kidding, sorta)

 

[dieseltrooper]

It's good to see some good info! My Wife was becoming a zombie after 2mo on legal pharma pain management. Oxy/norflex/gabapentin... Now with MJ, she has ditched ALL three rx meds.
Good to see the link to Lightshade! My wife is very happy with her meds from there. Leafly.com has been a great resource for learning about the various strains.
We are looking at her establishing CO residency so she can get her red card.

 

[hunybee]

I've scene it make you vomit from.eatin to much, it can give you serious anxiety, certainly increases your heart rate, it will make you tired and sleepy, you can get hungry, some people get the spins when they eat to much, and I have had patients say they see streaks of color for a couple minutes when the acids finally break down the cannabis in your stomache.

contrary to what some here think, i have never done weed or any other drug (except that prescribed by a dr after surgery or the like). i am not a fan of those either. all the reasons above are good ones for me not to do any mj. i know that it is not a promise all those things would happen, but i just don't want to do it anyway, and those seem like some unpleasant enough side effects that make me just go, "meh". i'm not gonna get into the whole usual argument of weed or explain my thoughts on that subject. i am curious (especially now after the answer i was given) about the pain relief with no high and why on earth this isn't over the counter like asprin.

regardless of anyones thoughts or wants about mj becoming completely legal, i think it is going to happen. not all at once, but i do think it will. for a lot of reasons, now is the time.

i WOULD like it if people would not get in trouble for not even knowing what mj looks like and having bird poop plants popping up in their yard. that would be nice. or grow tomatoes without problems. or grow stuff inside in winter and not have the police knock on their doors because they think they are growing weed.

 

[Mixin]

...
I have a patient list in the thousands, I personally have never scene marijuana cause hallucinations. I've scene it make you vomit from.eatin to much, it can give you serious anxiety, certainly increases your heart rate, it will make you tired and sleepy, you can get hungry, some people get the spins when they eat to much, and I have had patients say they see streaks of color for a couple minutes when the acids finally break down the cannabis in your stomache. That's it from my experience. I have well over a 1000 stories of patients living a far higher quality lifestyle now they incorporate weed into their lifestyle, period.
...

Munchies are common, I don't see cottonmouth on your list. Smoking sometimes made me paranoid. I often thought I was the funniest person in the room when I was high. Time slowed down to a crawl for me; I was a hazard on the road so I didn't smoke and drive. I really didn't like how it made me feel.

Everyone I knew smoked and drank alcohol. Has that changed?

 

[twobarkingdogs]

Sorry, I missed the rest of your question(s):

Thanks for the answers. Liquor licenses used to be more controlled where I'm from and they only issued new ones due to population growth. Basically it was a level playing field for everyone applying and other then the restriction that you had to operate and use the license for 1 year before you could sell or transfer it they were worth a lot of money. Think a big business like a hotel needing to acquire a license and only being able to get one on the secondary market. I used to put in for the lottery every time they were held. Thus my interest on how your licenses were issued to the public.

Are you all required to grow your own product or can you buy from non-retail growers? Are they required to be licensed if you are? I'm also assuming that at this point, and maybe never, will they allow farmers market sales.

I'm mostly interested in this from a business standpoint. This legalization seems to be moving as a wave across the country and I find the development of a new business model fairly interesting.

 

[imaginative]

Hi imag...https://www.bluebird-botanicals.com/#2829

Check these guys out. I like them because they where originally an essentisl.oil company. (Which I think you would appreciate) They know their stuff. They are using Canna vest for their cbd source. We use them as well for our large bulk stuff. We have tested all.their stuff and it has always been clean and the proper percentage. (Sorry, we use canna vest hemp oil for our base)

Double thanks. My "Place Order" trigger finger is now itching. I'll spend some time & money there

 

[mbabulldog]

Are you all required to grow your own product or can you buy from non-retail growers? Are they required to be licensed if you are? I'm also assuming that at this point, and maybe never, will they allow farmers market sales.

I'm mostly interested in this from a business standpoint. This legalization seems to be moving as a wave across the country and I find the development of a new business model fairly interesting.

If you're selling medical product, you must grow 70% of what you sell; the other 30% you can purchase on the wholesale market.
If you're selling recreational product, you can buy 100% of your inventory on the open market if you choose, but the margins are much better if you grow and sell your own product.

Yes, other OPC's (the technical term for grow's) are just as regulated as dispensaries, and are subject to a whole other set of rules, security, bonding, and tracking methodologies. The trend is actually shifting away from grows in warehouses to growing in a Greenhouse environment, because you can then leverage sunlight instead of having Excel Electric in your pocket as a partner; there are A LOT of zero's on our monthly utility bill...