Ted Cruz Hands Out a Surprising Critique of Monday Night's Debate

SmokeyBear

"Need to Know"
U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) is often referred to as a "gifted debater," but that really isn't the half of it.

In 1992 he won both the U.S. National Debating Championship and the North American Debating Championship. Then, three years later, he was a semifinalist in the World Universities Debating Championship.

So, when someone asks him to critique a debate—as nationally syndicated radio host Hugh Hewitt did during Tuesday morning's show—he's going to give an expert opinion. What he had to say, however, about Monday night's debate between Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump and his Democratic counterpart, Hillary Clinton, got a lot of people's attention.

"Well, last night, I thought it was a very strong debate," he said. "I thought Hillary did not have a good performance. I think throughout the night, she was tired, she was formulaic. The entire debate from Hillary was more Washington as usual. And every proposal she advanced was another big government solution that isn't working, that is failing.

"I thought Donald had the strongest debate performance he's had in this election cycle. I think he really went after Hillary, which was a good thing. And I think he drew strong contrast, particularly on taxes, and on regulation and on law and order, and on the disastrous Iran deal. And so I thought it was a good debate night."

Hewitt pointed to the "conventional wisdom" analysis of the debate, which suggested Clinton had "trounced" Trump, particularly in the latter half. He asked Cruz to address those analyses and to provide his own commentary.

"You know, anyone who is swooning at Hillary's performance last night, that's a pretty good indication that you're a card-carrying member of the liberal media, especially in the first half hour," he said. "I think Donald very much had the upper hand over Hillary. Hillary was tentative and had no real answers. She was on the defensive the entire time.

"And the biggest thing is her answers, they sounded old and tired, and I don't mean that in a comment on her health. I mean it on a comment on her ideas. Her ideas are rehashed 1960s Great Society, big government programs. And to me, they did not rise to the occasion remotely.

"Now of course, the media is going to hyperventilate at how terrific she is, because that's what they do. You know, the idea that they focus on the birther issue I find thoroughly amusing because, unless you are in a college faculty hall, or the newsroom of a major newspaper, I don't think there are a whole lot of voters in this country that give a flying flip about the birther issue.

"And so if the media thinks that was the takeaway from last night, I think that shows just how disconnected they are from working men and women who've been hammered for seven years under the Obama economy and are looking for something different. And if all Hillary cares about is screaming you're a racist, you're a racist rather than actually providing real solutions to the challenges facing working men and women, I don't think that's a good debate night for her."

Hewitt asked why Trump didn't force a conversation about the Supreme Court, and Cruz suggested the line of questions from moderator Lester Holt didn't really afford the opportunity to do so. He said, however, it is the biggest distinction between the two candidates.

"As you know, the developments last week were a major reason why I made the decision to vote for Trump in November, because on Friday, he put out a list of 21 judges, and a couple of important things," he said. "One, as you noted, he put my friend and colleague, Mike Lee, at the top of the list. Senator Mike Lee, I think, would make an extraordinary Supreme Court justice to replace Antonin Scalia.

"But secondly, and this was the most important part of the list, and much of the media missed this, when he put it out, he explicitly committed that the only people he would consider are the 21 names on the list. Previously, they had put out a list of 11 names, but there had been no commitment other than these are among the people we will look at.

"On Friday, they locked themselves in and said these 21 are the only ones up for consideration. That was a major new development, and it was a major new development exactly along the lines of what I had urged in Cleveland, which is that I wanted to see our nominee defend freedom, defend the Constitution, and the Supreme Court is going to be right at the crossroads of determining whether the Bill of Rights remains vibrant in protecting our liberties, or whether it is rendered a dead letter by a Hillary Clinton judicial activist Court."

Cruz also made an offer the Trump campaign just cannot refuse. Asked by Hewitt if he would be willing to campaign on the GOP nominee's behalf, or to assist with future debate prep, the senator said he had already made that offer.

"I will do whatever I can to defeat Hillary Clinton," he said. "My heavy focus this cycle, in addition to defeating Hillary, is on preserving a Republican majority in the Senate, and I am working hard to help my colleagues get re-elected.

"I'm working hard to raise money for them, to help turn out conservatives in their state. And then I'm also working hard in the state of Texas to turn out conservatives, because if conservatives stay home this cycle, we could see really bad results on down-ticket ballots, on judicial races, on state rep races.

"I don't want to see that happen. So I'm going to do everything I can to urge conservatives to come out and vote, even if they may not be thrilled at the candidates on the ballot. I'm urging them to come out and vote anyway, because the consequences of staying home, I think, are really quite significant."

http://www.charismanews.com/politics/events/60190-ted-cruz-hands-out-a-surprising-critique-of-monday-night-s-debate
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
What???

Y'all don't think Ted was actually fulfilling his pledge, keeping his word, and demonstrating his legit principles.......living up to his word??
 

Flippper

Time Traveler
What???

Y'all don't think Ted was actually fulfilling his pledge, keeping his word, and demonstrating his legit principles.......living up to his word??
Running for high office again or expecting a juicy nomination to Atty General or some other post. He's hoping it's been long enough that people have forgotten his dirty deeds and words of a few months ago.
 

Oilpatch Hand

3-Bomb General, TB2K Army
He's been smoking Crack with Obama!

Maybe. Or else he's decided that Donald needs all the help he can possibly get in basic debate technique, and is willing to offer that assistance.

He could have reached no other conclusion, obviously, given the Monday night debacle. Cruz, as a loyal Republican, surely doesn't want his party's chances in November to completely disappear because its candidate appears to have terminal ADHD behind the mike.

Cruz can actually help Trump here, if Trump is willing to listen and learn. And in his quietest moments, The Donald should be able to readily admit that he needs the help, assuming he actually has the personal courage to acknowledge the fact.

Cruz is likely saying one thing for public consumption, but I'm willing to bet that his message to Trump differs considerably from the glib sound bite he offered the press, to-wit:

Ted Cruz said:
"I thought Donald had the strongest debate performance he's had in this election cycle. I think he really went after Hillary, which was a good thing. And I think he drew strong contrast, particularly on taxes, and on regulation and on law and order, and on the disastrous Iran deal. And so I thought it was a good debate night."

Compare that statement to what Cruz is telling Trump behind the scenes:

Ted Cruz said:
"Donald, you clearly need help, pal. You sucked out there Monday night. There were people in Siberia who heard you stinking the place up on Monday. Your debate performance was sub-zero, dude. If I had to grade your performance on Monday, I'd have to bump you six letter grades up out of sheer charity just to get you to an "F." You looked and sounded like a freshman who didn't know how to pop his own zits. It looked like you were trying to dance a jig on three left feet out there, Chief. It was a painfully sad sight to behold, believe me. You made every freshman debate mistake there is in the book, and even managed to invent a few of your own, all of which made Hillary look far more capable than she actually is. For a guy who's been on TV as much as you have, you looked and sounded like you didn't have the first clue. Because you were completely unprepared for the debate, you allowed an utterly unremarkable criminal Marxist dressed in red with even fewer public speaking skills than you have make you look like a world-class buffoon. She had you sounding like a babbling, unfocused, drug-addled urban outdoorsman from Brooklyn. Somehow, through your lack of preparation and focus, you made one of the most mediocre people in all of human history look like the reincarnation of Pericles, Abraham Lincoln and Winston Churchill, all rolled into one. There were times Monday night where it wasn't even clear that English was your first language, Ace. Now, I can help you avoid a repeat of that execrable performance, but you've got to be willing to learn. After all...you're asking the American people to hire you for a job where the ability to verbally communicate ideas clearly and succinctly is 100% essential. Thus far, you have demonstrated that your skills in that area are sorely lacking. So how about it, pal? Will you accept the help I'm offering?"

And, if The Donald is really as bright as everyone insists that he is, he will gladly accept Cruz's help.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Hand, he LIKELY wasn't QUITE that hard on DJT but it is clear, given his skills and track record in that SPECIFIC arena, that he could help DJT to fix some of his more glaring issues....
 

thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen
It's a matter of him trying to salvage what he can of some sort of a political career, somewhere. He's going to have a helluva time holding on to his senate seat and he knows it.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
It's a matter of him trying to salvage what he can of some sort of a political career, somewhere. He's going to have a helluva time holding on to his senate seat and he knows it.

That is the way that I see it. And as much bad blood that was between Ted and Donald I think that Trump should swallow his pride and accept any help that Ted can give him. I don't like Ted, I don't trust Ted but he is a great debater and Donald can use some help in that area. And I do think he has aspirations for the future and with the RNC head intimating that those who don't get behind the nominee can pretty much forget any idea about the party supporting them in the future probably got Ted's attention.
 

thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen
This was maybe the Friday before the endorsement, I remember it (maybe OAN?)

Right around in that time period, yes. Just a few days before. There are threads here about it if anyone is inclined to look it up.
 

paul bunyan

Frostbite Falls, Minnesota
Maybe. Or else he's decided that Donald needs all the help he can possibly get in basic debate technique, and is willing to offer that assistance.

He could have reached no other conclusion, obviously, given the Monday night debacle. Cruz, as a loyal Republican, surely doesn't want his party's chances in November to completely disappear because its candidate appears to have terminal ADHD behind the mike.

Cruz can actually help Trump here, if Trump is willing to listen and learn. And in his quietest moments, The Donald should be able to readily admit that he needs the help, assuming he actually has the personal courage to acknowledge the fact.

Cruz is likely saying one thing for public consumption, but I'm willing to bet that his message to Trump differs considerably from the glib sound bite he offered the press, to-wit:



Compare that statement to what Cruz is telling Trump behind the scenes:



And, if The Donald is really as bright as everyone insists that he is, he will gladly accept Cruz's help.



You Sir, OPH, have a wonderful gift of succinct and accurate analysis of the problem at hand.

Y'all have a fascinating and understandable way of expressing your thoughts that I find very refreshing.

Please consider helping out Donald!

Sincerely,

Paul, a mere lumberjack.
 

FireDance

TB Fanatic
Not sure he'd be my debate coach pick. Talk about sounding old and tired. Not sure I'd trust him that far either. Trump needs coaching but Cruz? Mmmmmm.
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
Not sure he'd be my debate coach pick. Talk about sounding old and tired. Not sure I'd trust him that far either. Trump needs coaching but Cruz? Mmmmmm.
When you look like Cruz, you better be able to debate. He has such a quirky smirky face at times.

I actually like the repetitive and consistent, simple terminology that Trump uses. He's direct and to the point. He makes sound bites, and that's how the media works. All this media propaganda that Trump is this or that is pathetic, just heard the gay boy shep on Fox slamming Trump for attempting to clear the context of the fat miss universe. It was edited so his context would never see the light, but it sure led shep to slam him, over n over. The media is biased, they try to make Trump look bad, and they do it in unison. Say it enough................... propaganda.

Trump resonates, Trump is succinct, Trump is getting the job done. Never mind these truths.
 

Oilpatch Hand

3-Bomb General, TB2K Army
Hand, he LIKELY wasn't QUITE that hard on DJT but it is clear, given his skills and track record in that SPECIFIC arena, that he could help DJT to fix some of his more glaring issues....

Cruz might have been a little more diplomatic in his approach, yes. And I have no doubt that Cruz can help him in debate technique.

There are several things working in Trump's favor here, but it's still going to take some effort on Trump's part for them to pay dividends.

  1. Trump has plenty of room for improvement, and any improvement at all, no matter how minor, is going to be noticeable and will tend to work to his advantage.
  2. Trump has enough time to improve his general technique, and in particular, learn what to say, and just as important, what NOT to say.
  3. On the other hand, Hillary probably can't improve on her Monday performance. She's almost got nowhere to go but down from there, although it would be unwise to automatically assume she won't do as well in the next two contests. Trump should prepare as if he expects her to do even better in the second and third debates.
 

Last Resort

Veteran Member
Maybe. Or else he's decided that Donald needs all the help he can possibly get in basic debate technique, and is willing to offer that assistance.

He could have reached no other conclusion, obviously, given the Monday night debacle. Cruz, as a loyal Republican, surely doesn't want his party's chances in November to completely disappear because its candidate appears to have terminal ADHD behind the mike.

Cruz can actually help Trump here, if Trump is willing to listen and learn. And in his quietest moments, The Donald should be able to readily admit that he needs the help, assuming he actually has the personal courage to acknowledge the fact.

Cruz is likely saying one thing for public consumption, but I'm willing to bet that his message to Trump differs considerably from the glib sound bite he offered the press, to-wit:



Compare that statement to what Cruz is telling Trump behind the scenes:



And, if The Donald is really as bright as everyone insists that he is, he will gladly accept Cruz's help.

You are really good at projection and creative writing, and highly skilled at the art of the backhanded compliment, based on the above. Formatting your imaginary Ted Cruz "conversation" as if it were a quote was well done.

Long story short, Cruz' foulups have not been forgotten, and Cruz is doing what he can to retain RNC support when he comes up for re-election. His recent statements have less to do with Trump, and more to do with Cruz, in my opinion.
 

Oilpatch Hand

3-Bomb General, TB2K Army
Not sure he'd be my debate coach pick. Talk about sounding old and tired. Not sure I'd trust him that far either. Trump needs coaching but Cruz? Mmmmmm.

I'd be interested to hear who you have in mind as an alternative.

The people currently surrounding Trump obviously didn't prepare him adequately...you saw what happened to him on Monday. He ended up feeding Hillary hanging verbal curve balls, which she gleefully belted out of the park every time. About the only thing she didn't do was a victory tap-dance all over his head with hobnailed boots.

I don't see what Trump has to lose by getting better coaching...if not from Cruz, then from somebody. But Cruz is a very effective public speaker and is quite capable of imparting a few tips that can help Trump in the next debate. Cruz issued his endorsement of Trump and presents no competitive risk at this point. Both individuals issued statements indicating an intent to work together for the success of the GOP effort in November. If Cruz is willing to assist, I don't see why Trump would refuse; after all, Trump must be able to see that he needs the help.

If, after Monday, Trump does not see that he needs help in this area, he may be the only one who doesn't.
 

Mixin

Veteran Member
Trump has never been a good debater but that didn't stop him from winning the nomination.

Many, many of us have had the misfortune to become acquainted with slick, lyin' liars and we will back the candidate who is talking from his heart, even if he isn't doing it as skillfully as some would like.

Cruz stabbed Trump in the back once, he should not trust him in any matters.
 

Meadowlark

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Pledge or no pledge, I would say Ted simply came to his senses. Clearly he considers Hillary the far greater danger. As for Trumps performance during the debate. I think he did just fine as a Washington outsider and acted very much presidential. Whether he practices for the next debate or not, I don't care as long as his handlers do not change him from Donald to a robotic imitation of Hillary.
 
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