BRKG Supreme Court rules Texas has no Standing

Bps1691

Veteran Member
Nope, didn't miss it. It is why I used the word 'collectively'. He can and will protect those fulfilling His will and purposes - but I would remind you that when you look at nearly ALL the prophets sent to warn His Nation about what was going to happen as a result of their disobedience - all of them were either killed by those they were trying to save, or YAHWEH sent them into captivity and destruction along with the nation He judged. Jeremiah comes to mind.
Agree, but God's grace was upon them and just as our Savior did, the prophets served him and stood true until the very end

Young Steven is perfect example and once again proved that though the ungodly come against you, God will be there giving the strength to stand true

... gold is refined in the fire
 

1snoopy

Contributing Member
Please dear Lord don't be done with us yet. My heart is so heavy for my adult children and grand children. I feel like I have failed them on so many levels. Please don't let me have to tell them that God is fed up with this great nation that I love so much. I'm not much use physically anymore but I have an eagle eye with any rifle and will do anything to protect those that I love. I will not comply. thank you Jesus for salvation.
 

somewherepress

Has No Life - Lives on TB
No one in any capacity of authority will follow any such orders he signs and gives.

None.

In fact, they have already told him so when he first floated invoking that Act to bring ANTIFA to heel in the cities.

When the entirety of civil government has willfully failed and sided with the enemy on every occasion they had to defend liberty, the Constitution and our natural rights - there is no help coming from anyone to save us or Trump.

On specifically what do you base your assertion that:

"No one in any capacity of authority will follow any such orders he signs and gives"
and
"In fact, they have already told him so when he first floated invoking that Act to bring ANTIFA to heel in the cities."

If so, would you please provide the specifics.

Or do you have an inside source in government that has provided you with that information? If so please provide some details.
 

wintery_storm

Veteran Member
So the Marchers tomorrow just as well bring ropes and bullets if they want any recourse or regress??
Only if they have the rope tied around a few dozen prominent politicians. Kicking their asses in front of them down the street. That will never happen the right is too polite. The Left would get away with it though.
 

Hogwrench

Senior Member
On specifically what do you base your assertion that:

"No one in any capacity of authority will follow any such orders he signs and gives"
and
"In fact, they have already told him so when he first floated invoking that Act to bring ANTIFA to heel in the cities."

If so, would you please provide the specifics.

Or do you have an inside source in government that has provided you with that information? If so please provide some details.
There were several threads here talking about it at the time.
 

ElevenO

Veteran Member
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jazzy

Advocate Discernment
the fight is not over.
this TX-SC was just ONE iron in the fire. as mentioned above the TX challenge was NOT the end of it all. lin wood has his filings, sidney powell, rudy and others have their actions. the SC didnt believe TX had standing or proved direct injury, thats it.

the SC didnt vote on whether or not there was fraud or illegitimate election. we are not there at that step yet. this is not freak out time.
 

rob0126

Veteran Member
The only other option I see is limited martial law, but I don't know all what's going on behind the scenes.

General Flynn seems to think there is something else to be done about all this.

So I won't write them off just yet.

As for SCOTUS, they are about as useless as a wet paper sack.
 

INVAR

Sword At-The-Ready
As for SCOTUS, they showed us they do not have to intestinal fortitude to do what’s right. I said this early on on the main election thread that they would refuse to hear the cases because they are all compromised. At least all of Trumps appointments and roberts.


They, and every other institution, industry and big company out there knows where the power is going to lie, and they are going to do anything to share in it. They are going to make sure, they say, act and do nothing to put at risk, their seats, their positions and their stuff - and possibly have a chance to empower themselves beyond imagination.

This is not revelation - this is what happened every single time Communists took over. Everyone fell into line.

Some earlier than others with the hopes of enrichment or that the crocodile will eat them last.
 

somewherepress

Has No Life - Lives on TB
You can go hunt for all the other instances of government officials who went on record to say they would not enforce it back in June.

Pentagon officials oppose use of Insurrection Act
You can go hunt for all the other instances of government officials who went on record to say they would not enforce it back in June.

Pentagon officials oppose use of Insurrection Act

Seems you are way behind on the news. Your report is from June 3, 2020.

Mark Esper was fired by Trump on Nov 9 for his opposition to using the Insurrection Act and many other disloyal officials have likewise been replaced.

Trump Fires Mark Esper, Defense Secretary Who Opposed Use of Troops on U.S. Streets
Mr. Esper’s removal was quickly followed by speculation that the president was not finished: The F.B.I. director and the C.I.A. director could be next, according to administration officials.

By Helene Cooper, Eric Schmitt and Maggie Haberman
  • Published Nov. 9, 2020Updated Nov. 11, 2020
WASHINGTON — President Trump fired Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper on Monday, upending the military’s leadership at a time when Mr. Trump’s refusal to concede the election has created a rocky and potentially precarious transition.
Mr. Trump announced the decision on Twitter, writing in an abrupt post that Mr. Esper had been “terminated.”
The president wrote that he was appointing Christopher C. Miller, whom he described as the “highly respected” director of the National Counterterrorism Center, to be the acting defense secretary. Mr. Miller will be the fourth official to lead the Pentagon under Mr. Trump.
Two White House officials said later on Monday that Mr. Trump was not finished, and that Christopher A. Wray, the F.B.I. director, and Gina Haspel, the C.I.A. director, could be next in line to be fired. Removing these senior officials — in effect decapitating the nation’s national security bureaucracy — would be without parallel by an outgoing president who has just lost re-election.

Democrats and national security veterans said it was a volatile move in the uncertain time between administrations, particularly by a president who has made clear that he does not want to give up power and that he would be reasserting his waning authority over the most powerful agencies of the government.
“President Trump’s decision to fire Secretary Esper out of spite is not just childish, it’s also reckless,” said Representative Adam Smith, Democrat of Washington and the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee. “It has long been clear that President Trump cares about loyalty above all else, often at the expense of competence, and during a period of presidential transition, competence in government is of the utmost importance.”

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Two senior administration officials noted on Monday that Mr. Trump enjoyed firing people and had only two more months to do so. Mr. Esper’s dismissal also gave the president the chance to reclaim some of the postelection headlines, which have been dominated by President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s victory.
At the Pentagon, Mr. Esper’s departure means that Mr. Miller would — if he lasts — see out the end of the Trump administration. Defense Department officials have privately expressed worries that the president might initiate operations, whether overt or secret, against Iran or other adversaries during his last days in office.
“In my experience, there would only be a few reasons to fire a secretary of defense with 72 days left in an administration,” Representative Elissa Slotkin, Democrat of Michigan and a former Pentagon official in the Obama administration, said in a statement.
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“One would be incompetence or wrongdoing, which do not seem to be the issue with Secretary Esper,” she said. “A second would be vindictiveness, which would be an irresponsible way to treat our national security. A third would be because the president wants to take actions that he believes his secretary of defense would refuse to take, which would be alarming. Whatever the reason, casting aside a secretary of defense during the volatile days of transition seems to neglect the president’s most important duty: to protect our national security.”
Mr. Esper’s downfall had been expected for months, after he took the rare step of disagreeing publicly with Mr. Trump in June and saying that active-duty military troops should not be sent to control the wave of protests in American cities.
The defense secretary was aware that he was likely to be fired, but Pentagon officials said he hoped to continue serving as long as possible to try to sustain orderly leadership of the Defense Department. Although Mr. Esper had a resignation letter prepared, his allies said he did not think anything was imminent from Mr. Trump on Monday.
But the president expressed his ire in the Oval Office on Monday morning, and the White House gave Mr. Esper only a few minutes’ advance notice of his firing.

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In a two-page letter to Mr. Trump obtained by The New York Times, Mr. Esper said, “I serve the country in deference to the Constitution, so I accept your decision to replace me.”
Friends and colleagues of the new acting secretary praised Mr. Miller’s Army Special Forces background and counterterrorism credentials but expressed surprise that he had been elevated to such a senior position, even in a temporary capacity. Mr. Miller does not have the stature to push back on any precipitous actions that Mr. Trump might press in his final weeks in office, colleagues said.
“A move like this probably sends a chill through the senior ranks of the military,” Nicholas J. Rasmussen, a former top counterterrorism official in the Bush and Obama administrations, said in an email. “Not because of anything about Chris Miller personally, though it’s a highly unconventional choice, to be sure. But simply because a move like this contributes to a sense of instability and unstable decision-making at exactly the time when you want to avoid sending that kind of message around the world.”

Mr. Miller, 55, is a former Army Green Beret who participated in the liberation of Kandahar early in the war in Afghanistan. He also previously served as the top counterterrorism policy official in the National Security Council in the Trump White House. After that job, he briefly served in a top counterterrorism policy role at the Pentagon this year.
It was only in August that Mr. Miller replaced Russ Travers, who was the acting head of the counterterrorism center.
Upon his arrival at the Pentagon on Monday afternoon, Mr. Miller tripped on the stairs and said, “That would have been great, broke my ankle on the way in.”
Mr. Miller began his military career as an enlisted infantryman in the Army Reserve in 1983. He also served as a military police officer in the District of Columbia National Guard. He was commissioned as a second lieutenant in 1987 and became an Army Green Beret in 1993.
In addition to his deployment to Afghanistan, he also served in Iraq in 2003, both with the Fifth Special Forces Group.
Rosa Brooks, a Georgetown University law professor and a Defense Department official during the Obama administration, led a group of 100 current and former national security officials and election experts from both parties this year in exercises to simulate the most serious risks to a peaceful transition of power.
That exercise anticipated an 11th-hour switch of the defense secretary, particularly if Mr. Esper was perceived to suggest to the president that he should accept an election loss.

When Mr. Esper broke with Mr. Trump in June on deploying active-duty troops to U.S. cities, the secretary’s spokesman tried to walk back the damage, telling The Times that Mr. Trump did not want to use the Insurrection Act either, or he would have invoked it already. White House officials disagreed.
Mr. Esper, 56, a former secretary of the Army and a former Raytheon executive, became defense secretary in July 2019, after Mr. Trump withdrew the nomination of Patrick M. Shanahan, the acting defense secretary, amid an F.B.I. inquiry into allegations from Mr. Shanahan’s former wife that he had punched her in the stomach. Mr. Shanahan denied the accusations.
Mr. Shanahan had been standing in for Jim Mattis, who resigned as defense secretary in 2018, citing his own differences with the president.
Mr. Esper had taken pains to hew to the Trump line during his tenure. But concern over invoking the Insurrection Act to send troops to quell civil unrest across the country was deep in the Pentagon. Under heavy public criticism, Mr. Esper ultimately broke with the president.
Mr. Trump has referred to Mr. Esper as “Mr. Yesper.” Ironically, it was the defense secretary’s public break with the president during a news conference in June that infuriated Mr. Trump to begin with. Those comments came after Mr. Esper had accompanied Mr. Trump on his walk across Lafayette Square outside the White House, where protesters had been tear-gassed, prompting condemnation from former military and civilian Defense Department officials.
By midsummer, Mr. Esper was walking a fine line to push back on Mr. Trump’s other contentious positions involving the military.
The Pentagon, without once mentioning the word “Confederate,” announced in July that it would essentially ban displays of the Confederate flag on military installations around the world.

After the events in June, Mr. Esper avoided the news media and kept a low profile to prevent being pulled into election politics.
He traveled often beginning in early summer, including overseas trips to North Africa, the Middle East and India. When he did speak in public, either abroad or in Washington, it was often in prerecorded remarks on safe subjects (criticizing China and Russia on the Africa trip) or in friendly places (a session on military readiness at The Heritage Foundation, where Mr. Esper had served as the organization’s chief of staff).
Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, called Mr. Esper five minutes before the president’s Twitter post to tell him he had been fired. Mr. Esper was still at the Pentagon cleaning out his desk on Monday afternoon when Mr. Miller arrived, administration officials said. It was unclear if the two men spoke; Mr. Miller met with Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Yet on the single biggest issue of 2020 — the coronavirus pandemic — history may show that Mr. Esper has, by far, outperformed his boss, who largely refused to wear a mask and contracted the coronavirus during an outbreak at the White House. Mr. Esper, by contrast, has strictly adhered to guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on wearing a mask when unable to keep a recommended social distance.
At a Pentagon virtual town-hall-style meeting, the defense secretary responded to a sailor on the aircraft carrier Gerald R. Ford who said that the required social distancing aboard the ship was hurting morale.
“It is tedious — I understand that,” Mr. Esper said. “But I think it’s showing, in terms of the Navy’s results in terms of infection rates, that they’re doing a very good job.”
Jennifer Steinhauer contributed reporting.




 
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Salal Sue

Senior Member
Please dear Lord don't be done with us yet. My heart is so heavy for my adult children and grand children. I feel like I have failed them on so many levels. Please don't let me have to tell them that God is fed up with this great nation that I love so much. I'm not much use physically anymore but I have an eagle eye with any rifle and will do anything to protect those that I love. I will not comply. thank you Jesus for salvation.
Sorry meant to hit the love button not laughing at all
 

Hogwrench

Senior Member
Mark Esper was fired by Trump on Nov 11 for his opposition to using the Insurrection Act and many other disloyal officials have likewise been replaced.
Do you really believe that was the end of it. Trump has surrounded himself with these swamp creatures that have been lurking for years. I love the guy, but his choices in personnel suck. And these bastards have been lurking in every office, bureau, and cabinet for a long time waiting to strike.
 

INVAR

Sword At-The-Ready
Seems you are way behind on the news. Your report is from June 3, 2020.

And what did I plainly write in the post YOU quoted????

INVAR said:
"You can go hunt for all the other instances of government officials who went on record to say they would not enforce it back in June."

Wake me when Trump actually invokes the Act and we see personnel actually enforce it.

Until that happens - it's not happening and I have no faith that it will happen.
 

rob0126

Veteran Member
HUGE! Attorney Matthew DePerno confirms Dominion Voting Machines Changed Votes From Trump to Biden --Human Error Attempting to have state lift gag order on information. Developing story.

Video 3:27

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Aw2_tIhAI&feature=emb_logo

I don't know about everyone else, but I don't trust the courts to do anything on our behalf anymore. (when did they ever?)

Like I said many threads ago, If the courts won't recognize the fraud and rule against it, then it doesn't matter if they have live footage of it. (and they actually do in some cases)

I don't trust trump for many reasons. However, if the commies can be stopped by the military, then so be it.

I'd like for a better alternative though.
 
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Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
Trump will soon have his Patton moment, perhaps some serious Churchill thrown in. I see the day he takes the podium, preferably with Flynn close. They both dawn the Kevlar helmets, and they speak of war, total war.....the enemy within, the Chinese influence, the totality of the deep states move to world government at our demise..........the commies within, the fifth column, open season. Surrender or face the kraken. green lighting the patriots. Now or never, is fast approaching.
 

Safetydude

Senior Member
Our pay day as a country has come home to roost. Trump might as well concede now and let the CW2 kick off in earnest. People were right, this is our last Christmas as a semi-free nation. Those of us still here are here and not home with the Lord are here for a reason, double down on what ya need to be doing. Look up for our redemption draws near!

Oh, yeah, the Great American Gospel Enterprise (the evangelical churches...I mean businesses) share very greatly in our demise by being silent for decades over a cheap grace gospel, prosperity teaching, lack of conviction in the pulpits. Good news is God is sifting the wheat and tares and the real church (the followers of Jesus) will arise but will be forced underground Into the new Body of Christ as it was in the first century.

Time to go reread Travis O’Dean’s Overthown series as it is going to be a time where God will have to send His protective angels to watch over and lead us. The book of Lamentations will be our national cry. Liberal America will get what it wants but will not like what it gets!

God in judgement remember mercy!
 
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