BRKG RUTH BADER GINSBURG DEAD (9/18/20)

DryCreek

Veteran Member
Gorsuch has turned out to be a real dud, amigo. He is in the same mold as Bush's 1990? Souter. so yeah, Trump proved yet again he doesn't know how to pick high quality people to implement his vision.
Yeah, but I don't recall him having a large chitinous horn protruding from his head.

Is he possibly a R.I.N.O. instead?
 

mistaken1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Rest in Peace
Prayers and Condolences to her family.
We lost a brilliant jurist, I may not have agreed with her but she founded her decisions and dissents on principals and the law and didn’t pull stuff from the clouds.
again Rest in Peace
r

Well played, LOL
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
here is her tiktok account.

whoa

What I thought I saw/heard, in the first few seconds before I stopped it, (that was enough for me) was......

cuss, cuss, here I am driving (and it looked like she WAS driving) stopped......she was doing her driving on the LEFT SIDE, and if that holds true, she won't have a say in our anything, anyway, cuz she's driving on the wrong side of the road and thinks that's ok.

Just saying, that's what I thought I saw/heard.

'Sides know why we drive on the right side? Because it is the RIGHT side.
 

hunybee

Veteran Member
What I thought I saw/heard, in the first few seconds before I stopped it, (that was enough for me) was......

cuss, cuss, here I am driving (and it looked like she WAS driving) stopped......she was doing her driving on the LEFT SIDE, and if that holds true, she won't have a say in our anything, anyway, cuz she's driving on the wrong side of the road and thinks that's ok.

Just saying, that's what I thought I saw/heard.

'Sides know why we drive on the right side? Because it is the RIGHT side.


she is in the usa. in LA. the reason she looks like she is driving on the other side of the road is because she is using the selfie camera to make the video (and yes, she is actually driving), and it revereses the picture so everything looks backwards.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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Marsha Blackburn: ‘There Is Precedent’ for Short Confirmation Process

Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) said there is precedent for confirming a U.S. Supreme Court judge in a short period of time, providing her remarks Friday on Sirius XM’s Breitbart News Tonight with host Jerome Hudson.
Blackburn joined Breitbart News Tonight just a few hours after the Supreme Court announced the death of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who had served on the Court since 1993 and was one of its most well-known, liberal members.

Blackburn first expressed her condolences for Ginsburg’s family and offered praiseworthy comments of the late justice, saying, “She was quite a remarkable individual and so accomplished and so straightforward and blunt and really earned her spot, and that always impressed me. She and I came from very different political positions. You can say that she was truly a principled classical liberal.”

Hudson pointed out that Ginsburg’s open seat on the Supreme Court has already generated significant politicization from Democrats who oppose Trump appointing the next justice.
Blackburn affirmed, “We know that the Democrats are going to try to make this an issue in the election. We know that it is important that we fill this vacancy on the court. It’s important that we move forward.”

Hudson highlighted Blackburn’s influential role on the Senate Judiciary Committee, which votes to bring Supreme Court nominees before the Senate floor, and noted Democrats are seeking to block such a vote from occurring.
Blackburn, in response, cited various past justices who were confirmed more quickly than usual, noting that “there is precedent” for the process to transpire in a short period of time.

“Bear in mind,” Blackburn said, “John Paul Stevens was confirmed in 19 days. Sandra Day O’Connor was confirmed in 33 days. Justice Ginsburg was confirmed in 42 days. So that gives you an idea that even though it typically takes about 60 days to confirm a justice, there is precedent for doing it in a shorter period of time.”

Asked how the sudden court vacancy will affect the upcoming presidential election, just over six weeks away, Blackburn assessed, “This is something that energizes support for the president because people do not want activist judges on the court. They do not want judges who are going to legislate from the bench. What they want are judges who will abide by the rule of law … and that I fully believe is going to resonate with a lot people. This is something that is going to cause people to think, ‘I’ll go vote for Donald Trump’ because the courts are important.”
Hudson also noted that incumbent senators’ stances on filling the court vacancy may have an impact on their Senate races. Blackburn responded that constituents “want somebody who is going to be even-handed on the court, and they do not want someone who is going to be an activist. So in these races that are close races, North Carolina, Maine, McSally’s race in Arizona, Ernst’s race in Iowa, you know that these candidates are being able to say, ‘I’m going to support a constitutional jurist, a constructionist.’”
“That is something that is calming to people,” Blackburn added. “They don’t want to hear, ‘Oh I’m going to support an activist judge.’”

 

inskanoot

Veteran Member
For over a year, it has simply been a matter of when the death announcement would be made. Who is genuinely surprised that the announcement came less than two months before the election?

The real surprise would be another Supreme vacancy before the election.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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Better formatting at link.

Trump’s list of possible Supreme Court nominees

President Donald Trump has named more than 40 people he has promised to choose from to fill a potential vacancy on the Supreme Court
Trump’s list of possible Supreme Court nomineesThe Associated PressWASHINGTON
WASHINGTON (AP) — Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s death Friday, just six weeks before Election Day, is expected to unleash a pitched battle over whether President Donald Trump should nominate — and the Republican-led Senate should confirm — her successor, or whether the seat should remain vacant until the outcome of Trump’s race against Democrat Joe Biden is known.
Trump had previously named more than 40 people he promised to choose from to fill a potential vacancy on the Supreme Court. The names of his first two nominees, Justice Neil Gorsuch and Justice Brett Kavanaugh, appeared on the lists before their nominations. The most recent additions to Trump’s list came earlier this month.
Here are the people now on Trump’s list:
BRIDGET BADE
Bade is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit. She is a graduate of Arizona State University and ASU’s Sandra Day O’Connor College of Law.
AMY CONEY BARRETT
Barrett is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit. She’s a graduate of Rhodes College and Notre Dame’s law school and a former clerk to Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia.
KEITH BLACKWELL
Blackwell is a justice of the Georgia Supreme Court. Blackwell previously served on the Georgia Court of Appeals and as deputy special attorney general in the state.
DANIEL CAMERON
Cameron is Kentucky’s attorney general. He previously served as legal counsel to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. Cameron is a graduate of the University of Louisville and its Brandeis School of Law.
CHARLES CANADY
Canady a justice of the Florida Supreme Court. A former Florida congressman, he was the prime sponsor of the first congressional effort to ban the procedure abortion opponents call “partial-birth abortion.” He also served as general counsel to former Florida governor and Trump rival Jeb Bush.
PAUL CLEMENT
Clement is a partner with Kirkland & Ellis, LLP. He previously served as U.S. solicitor general, arguing over 100 cases before the U.S. Supreme Court. Clement was a clerk for Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia. He is a graduate of the Georgetown University School of Foreign Service, Cambridge University and Harvard Law School.
STEVEN COLLOTON
Colloton is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 8th Circuit. He graduated from Princeton University and Yale’s law school. He was a law clerk for Supreme Court Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist.
TOM COTTON
Cotton is a U.S. senator from Arkansas. Before being elected in 2014, Cotton served in the U.S. House and in the Army. He earned his undergraduate and law degrees from Harvard.
TED CRUZ
Cruz is a U.S. senator from Texas and was previously Texas’ solicitor general. He was a law clerk for Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist. Cruz is a graduate of Princeton University and Harvard Law School. He has said he’s not interested in becoming a justice.
STUART KYLE DUNCAN
Duncan is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit and formerly general counsel of the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty. He is a graduate of Louisiana State University, LSU’s Paul M. Hebert Law Center and Columbia University Law School.
ALLISON EID
Eid is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit. She graduated from Stanford and the University of Chicago’s law school and was a law clerk to Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.
STEVEN ENGEL
Engel is the assistant attorney general for the Office of Legal Counsel of the U.S. Department of Justice. Engel clerked for U.S. Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy. He is a graduate of Harvard College, Cambridge University and Yale Law School.
NOEL FRANCISCO
Francisco is the former U.S. solicitor general. Before his appointment in 2017, Francisco was in private practice and served in the Office of Legal Counsel as deputy assistant attorney general and as associate counsel to Trump. Francisco clerked for U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia. He is a graduate of the University of Chicago and its law school.
BRITT GRANT
Grant is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit and formerly a justice on the Supreme Court of Georgia. She graduated from Wake Forest University and attended law school at Stanford.
RAYMOND GRUENDER
Gruender is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 8th Circuit. He has undergraduate, business and law degrees from Washington University in St. Louis.
THOMAS HARDIMAN
Hardiman is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit. He graduated from the University of Notre Dame and Georgetown’s law school.
JOSH HAWLEY
Hawley is a U.S. senator from Missouri and previously Missouri’s attorney general, a professor at the University of Missouri School of Law, and an attorney with the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty. Hawley was a clerk for Chief Justice John Roberts. He is a graduate of Stanford University and Yale Law School. Hawley has said he doesn’t have any interest in becoming a justice.
JAMES HO
Ho is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit. Before his appointment in 2018, Ho was in private practice and had served Texas as solicitor general. Ho clerked for U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. He graduated from Stanford and the University of Chicago Law School.
GREGORY KATSAS
Katsas is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. Prior to his 2017 appointment he served as deputy assistant to the president and deputy counsel to the president. Katsas served as a law clerk to Justice Clarence Thomas. He is a graduate of Princeton and Harvard Law School.
RAYMOND KETHLEDGE
Kethledge is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit. He went to law school at the University of Michigan. He was a law clerk to Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy.
BARBARA LAGOA
Lagoa is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit. Before her appointment in 2019, Lagoa was a justice on the Florida Supreme Court. She is a graduate of Florida International University and Columbia Law School.
CHRISTOPHER LANDAU
Landau is the U.S. ambassador to Mexico. He was a clerk for Justice Clarence Thomas and Justice Antonin Scalia. Landau is a graduate of Harvard College and Harvard Law School.
JOAN LARSEN
Larsen is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit. She graduated from the University of Northern Iowa and Northwestern University School of Law and was a law clerk to Justice Antonin Scalia.
MIKE LEE
Lee is a U.S. senator from Utah. He graduated from Brigham Young University and attended its law school. He served as a law clerk to Justice Samuel Alito.
THOMAS LEE
Lee serves on the Supreme Court of Utah. He graduated from Brigham Young University and attended law school at the University of Chicago. He was a law clerk to Justice Clarence Thomas.
EDWARD MANSFIELD
Mansfield is a justice of the Iowa Supreme Court. He previously served as a judge on the Iowa Court of Appeals.
FEDERICO MORENO
Moreno is a federal judge in Florida. He graduated from the University of Miami School of Law.
CARLOS MUNIZ
Muñiz is a justice on the Florida Supreme Court. Prior to his appointment in 2019, Muñiz served as general counsel to the U.S. Department of Education and in various positions in the Florida state government. Muñiz is a graduate of the University of Virginia and Yale Law School.
KEVIN NEWSOM
Newsom is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit. He’s a graduate of Harvard’s law school and a former law clerk to Supreme Court Justice David Souter.
MARTHA PACOLD
Martha Pacold is a federal judge in Illinois and former deputy general counsel at the Treasury Department. A graduate of Indiana University and the University of Chicago Law School, she clerked for Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.
PETER PHIPPS
Phipps is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit. He graduated from the University of Dayton and Stanford Law School.
SARAH PITLYK
Pitlyk is federal judge in Missouri and former special counsel at the Thomas More Society. She clerked for then-Judge Brett Kavanaugh of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. She graduated from Boston College, Georgetown University and the Katholieke Universiteit Leuven in Belgium; and Yale Law School.
WILLIAM PRYOR
Pryor is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit. He went to law school at Tulane.
ALLISON JONES RUSHING
Rushing is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit. She clerked for U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and then-Judge Neil Gorsuch on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit. She graduated from Wake Forest University and Duke University School of Law.
MARGARET RYAN
Ryan was a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces and previously served in the Marine Corps. A graduate of Notre Dame’s law school, she is a former clerk to Justice Clarence Thomas.
DAVID STRAS
Stras is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 8th Circuit. He went to law school at the University of Kansas and was a law clerk to Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.
DIANE SYKES
Sykes is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit. She’s a graduate of Northwestern University and Marquette University Law School.
AMUL THAPAR
Thapar is a judge of the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Kentucky. Thapar, who is of South Asian descent, has also served as an assistant U.S. Attorney in Washington and in the Southern District.
KATE TODD
Todd is deputy counsel to President Donald Trump and formerly served as chief counsel of the United States Chamber Litigation Center. Todd clerked for U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. She graduated from Cornell University and Harvard Law School.
TIMOTHY TYMKOVICH
Tymkovich is chief judge of the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals. He formerly served as Solicitor General in Colorado, where he argued several cases in front of the Supreme Court. Among them: Colorado’s failed bid to preclude the state from providing legal protections for gays and lesbians.
LAWRENCE VANDYKE
VanDyke is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit. He graduated from Montana State University, Bear Valley Bible Institute and Harvard Law School.
DON WILLETT
Willett is a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit and formerly a justice on the Supreme Court of Texas. He went to law school at Duke.
PATRICK WYRICK
Wyrick is a judge on the Supreme Court of Oklahoma.
ROBERT YOUNG
Young is a former chief justice of the Michigan Supreme Court. He also served as a judge on the Michigan Court of Appeals.
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This story has been corrected to reflect that Robert Young is a former chief justice of the Michigan Supreme Court, not the current chief justice.


 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Tump can only nominate, not appoint. And then the candidate has to want to go through the brutal Marxist confirmation horror. After Kavenaugh, who’d want to do that? And that’s a huge part of the dem playbook: intimidate such that good repubs no longer want to go through the process.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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How Ginsburg’s death could reshape the presidential campaign

A presidential campaign that was already tugging at the nation’s most searing divides has been jolted by the death of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg
How Ginsburg’s death could reshape the presidential campaignBy STEVE PEOPLESAssociated PressThe Associated PressNEW YORK
NEW YORK (AP) — A presidential campaign that was already tugging at the nation’s most searing divides has been jolted by the death of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, potentially reshaping the election at a moment when some Americans were beginning to cast ballots.
For months, the contest has largely centered on President Donald Trump’s handling of the coronavirus, the biggest public health crisis in a century that has badly damaged his prospects for reelection as the U.S. death toll nears 200,000 people.
But in a flash, Ginsburg’s death on Friday added new weight to the election, with the potential that Trump or his Democratic challenger, Joe Biden, could pick a successor who could decide abortion access, environmental regulations and the power of the presidency for a generation.
With early voting underway in five states and Election Day just over six weeks away, Democrats and Republicans were largely unified late Friday in praising Ginsburg as a leading legal thinker and advocate for women’s rights. But strategists in both parties also seized on the moment to find an advantage.
Facing the prospect of losing both the White House and the Senate, some Republicans viewed the Supreme Court vacancy as one of the few avenues remaining for Trump to galvanize supporters beyond his most loyal core of supporters, particularly suburban women who have abandoned the GOP in recent years.
“It’s hard to see how this doesn’t help Trump politically,” said veteran Republican strategist Alex Conant. “Biden wants this election to be a referendum on Trump. Now it’s going to be a referendum on whoever he nominates to the Supreme Court.”
Multiple Republicans close to the White House believe that Trump will likely nominate a woman, who could serve as a counterweight of sorts to Biden’s choice of running mate Kamala Harris, who would be the first woman to serve as vice president.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., pledged to quickly bring to a vote whomever Trump nominates. But he faces potential division within his own ranks, including from Sens. Mitt Romney of Utah, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Susan Collins of Maine and Cory Gardner of Colorado. Collins and Gardner are in particularly tight races for reelection this fall.
That’s fueling optimism among Democrats that the vacancy could drive home the significance of the election to their base.
“The implications for Senate races could be profound,” said Democratic strategist Bill Burton.
“The presidential race will see some immediate churn as activists on both sides will be newly energized,” he continued. “The persistent question will be whether huge protests around the Capitol and the country will inflame such vigorous energy that it leads to awful clashes.”
McConnell, in a note to his GOP colleagues Friday night, urged them to “keep their powder dry” and not rush to declare a position on whether a Trump nominee should get a vote this year. “This is not the time to prematurely lock yourselves into a position you may later regret,” he said.
Biden, who has already pledged to appoint the first Black woman to the Supreme Court, told reporters late Friday that “voters should pick the president and the president should pick the justice to consider.”
Democrats are enraged by McConnell’s pledge to move forward, especially after he blocked President Barack Obama from appointing a justice to replace Antonin Scalia nine months before the 2016 election. That decision cast a long political shadow, prompting Pete Buttigieg, the former South Bend, Indiana, mayor who mounted a spirited bid for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination, to make expansion of the Supreme Court a centerpiece of his campaign. Biden rejected the idea.
Some Democrats privately concede that the Supreme Court vacancy could shift attention away from the virus, which has been a central element of Biden’s campaign.
Trump took the unprecedented step in 2016 of releasing a list of Supreme Court picks before he was elected, a move that was credited with unifying skeptical conservative voters to unite behind him. Republicans also believe that the high-profile debate over Trump’s last Supreme Court pick, Brett Kavanaugh, helped the GOP retain the Senate during the 2018 midterms, when the party lost control of the House.
The president, seeking to build the same type of energy that surrounded his 2016 bid, released another list of potential Supreme Court nominees last week.
But some Democrats said the political environment is already overheated, with partisan divides over everything from wearing a mask to curb the pandemic to addressing climate change. Ginsburg’s death, they say, may not change that.
“It’s already pretty ugly out there,” said Megan Jones, a Democratic strategist who worked for former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. “I do not know how this does not become a fight of epic proportions.”

 

FireDance

TB Fanatic
They must have know she wasn't doing well. That is likely why Trump expanded his possibles list just recently. That included several Senators. I wonder if they would be excluded from voting for themselves. If so, they may not be selected as they would be needed to make the required Senate majority.

It might also mean that vetting has already been done, so selection could be eased.
Surely! I mean she’s been on Death’s doorstep for months. Or inside it. (Difficult to know for sure)

So, if I were a planning person I would have had most of this done about six months ago.
 

straightstreet

Life is better in flip flops
Question. If Trump did appoint him, how would he be replaced ? Special election, Replacement appointed by legislature, the party, or by the boy dictator ?
I don't know but hopefully not by the boy dictator. (I like that name for him. It describes what he is)
 

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
she is in the usa. in LA. the reason she looks like she is driving on the other side of the road is because she is using the selfie camera to make the video (and yes, she is actually driving), and it revereses the picture so everything looks backwards.
So you're saying she doesn't really have a correct perspective on things [/sarc
 

Sub-Zero

Veteran Member
Tump can only nominate, not appoint. And then the candidate has to want to go through the brutal Marxist confirmation horror. After Kavenaugh, who’d want to do that? And that’s a huge part of the dem playbook: intimidate such that good repubs no longer want to go through the process.
So, in an ideal world, President Trump would nominate and the Senate would confirm (Nov 3 would be icing on the cake).

You know his top picks have been vetted. Let Congress do what they want as far as "investigations" and by the time they present their findings we will already have a new S.C. Judge.

In sum, screw the House of Reps. Who, at this point, cares? The gloves need to come off.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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As a commentator pointed out, they are chanting RGB......Its RBG - lol

LOL! The computer generation... don't know the difference from Red-Green-Blue and a defunct liberal judge...

Summerthyme

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BornFree

Came This Far
Tump can only nominate, not appoint. And then the candidate has to want to go through the brutal Marxist confirmation horror. After Kavenaugh, who’d want to do that? And that’s a huge part of the dem playbook: intimidate such that good repubs no longer want to go through the process.

I am thinking that if he nominates a women it will make it much harder for the sleezy democrats to attack. Mostly the sexual harassment stuff would be off the table I would think.
 

et2

Has No Life - Lives on TB
So screw you - you rotten evil sick communists!! Burn the cities down. We don't care. We will still prevail and keep America free!!
Rest in Peace
Prayers and Condolences to her family.
We lost a brilliant jurist, I may not have agreed with her but she founded her decisions and dissents on principals and the law and didn’t pull stuff from the clouds.
again Rest in Peace
r

Murdering babies ... she voted yes. Great principles.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic

Trump handled this exactly the way he should have. It takes all the steam out of the Dems responses to him.
After a couple of days, he will go ahead and nominate a replacement for her. Right now there is a lot of political maneuvering and pressure being applied behind the scene.

For those of you so anxious for his new SC nominee, ask yourself how his previous appointments are working out. :shk:
When you give someone a secure job for the rest of their life, where they will be beholding to no one, you never know what you're going to get.
It's really hard to find a staunch conservative like Thomas is or Scalia was, who will stay that way once they don't have to answer to anyone .
That is not true when it comes to liberals. There are plenty of hardcore liberal fanatic judges out there who will be that way till the day they die. Not so with conservative judges.
Here is hoping Trump gets lucky and picks a good one this time.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
Rush was talking about this yesterday (at noon, interestingly, BEFORE she passed away)--

He was saying that IF the DAMOCRATS win, THEN:

1. They will immediately grant STATEHOOD to Puerto Rico and Washington DC--automatically creating FOUR NEW DEM Senators---and giving themselves an unbeatable majority in the Senate. The two-party system would essentially cease to exist, and no Republicans would EVER be in charge of the House, Senate, or Presidency again.

To ENSURE this, the Democratic Congress resulting from #1 above would NEXT...

2. They will vote to abolish the filibuster, automatically making just a simple majority -- 51 votes rather than 66%-- required to pass any legislation
3. They will PACK the Supreme Court with all-liberal judges

DEMOCRAT / SOCIALIST / COMMUNISTS in charge of the Executive (Presidency)
DEMOCRAT / SOCIALIST / COMMUNISTS in charge of the legislative (Congress)
DEMOCRAT / SOCIALIST / COMMUNISTS in charge of the judicial (Supreme Courts--and all lower courts)

GAME. OVER. for the U. S.
Actually Puerto Rico doesn't want statehood. They have had referendums on it before and the people there voted against it. There are several financial advantages to not being a state.
So no matter what the Dems want, it won't happen as long as the voters in PR don't want it.
PR is notoriously corrupt and money is everything there.
 
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