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Russian Government Officials Told To Immediately Bring Back Children Studying Abroad
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In Europe, when it gets serious, you have to lie... at least if you are an unelected bureaucrat like Jean-Claude Trichet. In Russia, however, when it gets serious, attention immediately turns to the children.

Which is why we read a report in Russian website Znak published Tuesday, according to which Russian state officials and government workers were told to bring back their children studying abroad immediately, even if means cutting their education short and not waiting until the end of the school year, and re-enroll them in Russian schools, with some concern. The article adds that if the parents of these same officials also live abroad "for some reason", and have not lost their Russian citizenship, should also be returned to the motherland. Znak cited five administration officials as the source of the report.

The "recommendation" applies to all: from the administration staff, to regional administratiors, to lawmakers of all levels. Employees of public corporations are also subject to the ordinance. One of the sources said that anyone who fails to act, will find such non-compliance to be a "complicating factor in the furtherance of their public sector career." He added that he was aware of several such cases in recent months.

It appears that the underlying reason behind the command is that the Russian government is concerned about the optics of having children of the Russian political elite being educated abroad, while their parents appear on television talking about patriotism and being "surrounded by enemies."

While we doubt the impacted children will be happy by this development, some of the more patriotic locals, if unimpacted, are delighted. Such as Vitaly Ivanov, a political scientist who believes that the measure to return children of officials from studying abroad, is "long overdue." According Ivanoc, the education of children of the Russian elite abroad is subject to constant ridicule and derision against the ruling regime. "People note the hypocrisy of having a centralized state and cultivating patriotism and anti-Western sentiment, while children of government workers study abroad. You can not serve two gods, one must choose."

On the other hand, political analyst Stanislav Belkovsky quoted by Znak, believes that such decisions should be approached with more pragmatism. Such a recommendation is more likely to lead to an outflow of officials from the state, rather than allow the return of the children studying at elite foreign universities. He also warned of attempts to recreate an echo chamber such as that experienced after the failed July coup attempt on Turkey's President Erdogan.

But what he said next was more disturbing: "On the one hand, this is all part of a package of measures to prepare the elites for some 'big war' even if it is rather conditional, on the other hand - this is another blow to the unity of President Putin with his own elite" Belkovsky said. He adds that the Western sanctions launcedh in March 2014, had sought to drive a wedge between Putin and elites. In response, the Kremlin began to act precisely according to the logic of these sanctions. "But while a ban for having assets in the West is one thing, and understanable, when it comes to a ban for offshore health and education services, the blowback will be far greater, as it represents a far more important element of the establishment's life strategy."

Ultimately the motivation behind Putin's decision is unclear: whether it is to show Russia's high-ranking oligarchs who is boss, to boost a sense of patriotism among the nation by sending a symbolic message that the west is no longer a welcome destination for Russia's rich kids, or just a preemptive move of repatriating of any individuals affiliated with Russian politics, is unclear, however it underscores the severity of the ongoing diplomatic crisis and just how dramatic the upcoming isolation between Russia and the West is likely to become in the coming months - unless of course tensions don't dramatically deescalate - resulting in even greater collapse in global commerce and a further slowdown to world economic growth, which may ultimately lead to an armed conflict, whether regional or global, as the only possible outcome.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Oh dear Lord.


Are we even going to MAKE it to December?



(Pope said "last Christmas"----I wonder how he knew all THIS would happen, 10 months in advance?)
 

TorahTips

Membership Revoked
We got a while before birds fly. We are, however, moving in that direction. This is saber-rattling. We are moving in the wrong direction. I fear that Vlad the Impaler before or shortly after the election, if Hillary is to become president. He hates her. I imagine that he may do something nasty if she is elected or if it looks like she will be elected.

I think he may hold off if Trump is elected with hopes of being able to deal with him rationally.
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
Didn't NAZI Germany do something similar before their shenanigans and worse start?

YEP!! If I recall correctly, Hitler called for the "Volksdeutsche" who were considered "Germans in terms of people or race", to return to the Fatherland in the prelude to WWII. Many expatriate Germans living abroad did send their military age sons to fight for Germany.

The other thing is that Putin may be trying to minimize Western influence on Russian Elite Children. Sort of a rebuilding of the Iron Curtain, which is also not a good sign. Anyway you look at this it is not good and we're (ONCE AGAIN) handling things poorly.
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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Here is the original Russian article translated by Google,

Fair Use Cited
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Russian officials and deputies advised to return the children and parents home

Ekaterina Vinokurov

Russian officials, up to the highest level, it is recommended to return to the country of children studying abroad. And to do so without waiting for the end of the study, and by shifting offspring in Russian universities. At home, parents should also return to officials and deputies, if the older generation of the family for some reason resides abroad without losing the citizenship of the Russian Federation, told Znak.com just five companions whom informal request from the presidential administration are most directly affected.

The recommendation will apply to all: from the staff of the administration as well as regional administrations, to deputies of all levels. Do not escape the new duties even employees of public corporations. Those who wait to the implementation of tacit request, reminded of the already known when the next of kin of the stay of the younger or the older generation abroad became a complicating factor in subsequent career in the public sector, said one of the interlocutors. According to him, in recent months it has become aware of several such cases.

"In this situation, the time is offered to resolve the issue, but in the case of failure to do so hiring, which is expected to place the applicant in the civil service, there is no" - led example of the source Znak.com.

Varying severity of scandals related to the fact that the children of the Russian political elite are educated abroad, while their parents on television talking about patriotism and "surrounded by enemies", in recent years become permanent. In 2012, Alexei Navalny in his blog published information that the students abroad all three daughters Zheleznyaka Sergei, a prominent member of the faction "United Russia" in the State Duma. Abroad he was educated and stayed the son of Senator Elena Mizulina - however, his return did not even get it - adult.

The former children's ombudsman Pavel Astakhov, a clear preference for Europe in choosing the best environment for their children. Especially for this, according to unofficial sources, he paid with his position.

The former children's ombudsman Pavel Astakhov, a clear preference for Europe in choosing the best environment for their children. Especially for this, according to unofficial sources, he paid with his position.

Away from the Fatherland gnaws granite science and son of the former Ombudsman for Children Pavel Astakhov, whose second child was born and did in Cannes. As one of the interlocutors Znak.som close to the presidential administration, this is clearly visible evroorientatsiya Astakhov family along with numerous scandals played a role in the decision about his resignation from the post of children's ombudsman.

Peskov "heard" about the recommendations of officials to return to Russia of children from abroad

She grew up and was educated in the US Daughter Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, Catherine. Tatler magazine noted that after returning to Russia she said in Russian with a clear accent. The same magazine in the September issue of 2016 in the list of most eligible suitors Russia mentions the son of Industry Minister Denis Manturov. His education was a young man in Switzerland, "having studied there as much to his father not incurred the wrath of the authorities," - quote from the Tatler.

Ideas legislative ban children abroad to study officials periodically arise in the State Duma.

For example, in 2013, when discussing a bill to ban officials have accounts and assets abroad, the Communist Party faction made an appropriate amendment, but that was rejected. In August this year against another former State Duma Speaker Sergei Naryshkin, and the heads of all four Duma factions received a letter from the president of the Association of entrepreneurs to develop business-patriotism "Avanti" Rahman Yansukova. The message contained a proposal to develop such a bill, so the children of officials during the training in the West can "become targets for recruitment." The reactions of the State Duma, however, was not followed - perhaps because the deputies have already departed to carry out his campaign.

Vitaly Ivanov political scientist believes that the recommendation for the return of the children of officials from abroad - a measure of "long overdue, and even overripe." "Education of the Russian elite children abroad is subject to the constant complaints and derision against the regime. Say, centralized at the state level are cultivated patriotism and anti-Western sentiment, and the children of officials are studying abroad. You can not serve two gods, one must choose. If such a measure will be initiated and implemented, it will bring consistency and certainty, which is not enough "- said Ivanov.

OIG: Over 7 years of Russia emigrated over 300 thousand people.

Political analyst Stanislav Belkovsky meanwhile believes that such things should be approached with great pragmatism. This recommendation is more likely to lead to an outflow of officials from the vertical, rather than allow the return of the children of the elite foreign universities. According to him, the recommendations made at the level of the AP - is just a logical consequence of what officials were prepared in 2014, when, for example, the Travel Abroad actually became not only the security forces, but many of them. Sees as attempts to replicate the experience of President Erdogan of Turkey, which after the July coup attempt announced Travel Abroad Turkish scientists, says Belkovsky.

"On the one hand, this is all part of the package of measures to prepare elites to some" big war ", even if it is rather conventional, on the other hand - this is another blow to the unity of President Vladimir Putin with his own elite - he says about the consequences of the expert . - The sanctions of the West, which began to enter since March 2014, pursued the aim to drive a wedge between Putin and elites. In response, the Kremlin began to act in the logic of these sanctions. But a ban have assets in the West is still possible to take easy, but it is impossible to use where health and education services - not, as it is - an important element of life establishment strategy.

https://www.znak.com/2016-10-11/ros...omendovano_vernut_detey_i_roditeley_na_rodinu
 

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TB Fanatic
ZeroHedge? Not worried. Nor should you be.

ZeroHedge just reported about it being published, Znak reported the Actual News (in Russian...)

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Russian officials and deputies advised to return the children and parents to the motherland
https://translate.google.com/transl...etey_i_roditeley_na_rodinu&edit-text=&act=url

(Google Translate)
 

LightEcho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
This is contrary to the discussion I just had on this thread- http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...ow-pointing-to-war-between-the-USA-and-Russia

On that thread, I was looking at Russia as planning the invasion and first strike. In this thread, we are seeing a master chess player responding to dire threats and moving pieces to safety in case a planned out attack cannot happen. This is a move to be ready for a sudden fast attack/ response to an agressive US coalition. Obama/ Kerry and their chief puppets are playing a dangerous game of chicken. When one of two angry neighbors starts walking toward his nemesis with a shotgun in hand, it is time to pull in the children and open the pungi stick pits.

Key people in Amerika have directly threatened Russia. And to further emphasize how serious they take this, we already saw US coalition aircraft commit acts of war in Syria. The Soros and Saudi and Erdogan devils are driving the US to take out Assad with John Kerry and Barak Hussein Obama as the directors of this psychotic play. Putin knows he must be ready to pop red buttons at a moment's notice. I am sure he has China standing by to make their move too.
 

Ben Sunday

Deceased
"On the one hand, this is all part of a package of measures to prepare the elites for some 'big war' even if it is rather conditional, on the other hand - this is another blow to the unity of President Putin with his own elite"

I find this ominous, as it usually is. Others here have mentioned Nazi Germany and this would be something similar to those dark days.

Severing all diplomatic relations is probably the next step.

Quoting lines from Countrymouse:

Oh dear Lord.


Are we even going to MAKE it to December?



(Pope said "last Christmas"----I wonder how he knew all THIS would happen, 10 months in advance?)

He didn't. This is ugly, jagged edge geopolitics and pre war nose thumbing. This is not a religious event or question.
 

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This is contrary to the discussion I just had on this thread- http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...ow-pointing-to-war-between-the-USA-and-Russia

On that thread, I was looking at Russia as planning the invasion and first strike. In this thread, we are seeing a master chess player responding to dire threats and moving pieces to safety in case a planned out attack cannot happen. This is a move to be ready for a sudden fast attack/ response to an agressive US coalition. Obama/ Kerry and their chief puppets are playing a dangerous game of chicken. When one of two angry neighbors starts walking toward his nemesis with a shotgun in hand, it is time to pull in the children and open the pungi stick pits.

Key people in Amerika have directly threatened Russia. And to further emphasize how serious they take this, we already saw US coalition aircraft commit acts of war in Syria. The Soros and Saudi and Erdogan devils are driving the US to take out Assad with John Kerry and Barak Hussein Obama as the directors of this psychotic play. Putin knows he must be ready to pop red buttons at a moment's notice. I am sure he has China standing by to make their move too.


Funny you should mention that:

Sputnik ‏@SputnikInt 15h
Russia & China quickly forming 'strategy of synergy' in Syria
http://sptnkne.ws/cxtf #SyriaCrisis
CudrJyPWAAAnu0u.jpg:small



Sputnik ‏@SputnikInt 13h
Beijing: US missile defense in Europe
poses 'direct threat' to Russia

http://sptnkne.ws/cx3D #USRussia #military
CuePEq8WYAE8Ks_.jpg:small



Sputnik ‏@SputnikInt 13h
US missile defense network
poses threat to safe use of outer space by any country
– Russian Gen Staff



Sputnik ‏@SputnikInt 12h
US' Standard 3 missiles
able to destroy Russian and Chinese spacecraft
- Russian Gen Staff

http://sptnkne.ws/cx4e military
CueXq1ZW8AAnd7t.jpg:small
 

Doc1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Cut through the dross and this is purely a war prep IMHO. Everything else is deflection and disinformation. The Russian elites could care less if their children are being exposed to foreign propaganda or ridicule. They are more than sophisticated enough to understand that all other countries are going to have different perspectives and different controls of the media. Any international diplomat or functionary is trained to expect this. What NO government wants is for the families of key personnel to effectively be held hostage in other lands when the bombs start to fall. This is likely as not to represent "hostage" in figurative, rather than literal terms. No government wants their key people to be more worried about their families than doing their job or in purely military terms to have personnel reluctant to carry out targeting orders because a loved one lives in the affected area. Again, this is simple: It's a war prep and any other consideration is subordinate to that.

Best regards
Doc
 

willowlady

Veteran Member
It appears that the underlying reason behind the command is that the Russian government is concerned about the optics of having children of the Russian political elite being educated abroad,

Trying to sell us that bridge in Brooklyn, again. This is NOT good news.
 

Nowski

Let's Go Brandon!
So what does immediately mean?

The new Russia, is battening down the hatches,
in preparation for a possible false flag, before the FUSA elections,
if it appears that Trump will win, or if the Hildebeest,
is to be placed into the POTUS.

A false flag event in Syria, which will then result in FUSA troops,
on the ground. The FUSA cannot loose Syria, as it will result
in the demise of the petro-dollar.

The insertion of FUSA troops into Syria, will result in a
massive push back by the new Russia.

There has not been another time, since The Cuban Missile Crisis,
where the world has been this close to nuclear war.

We could all have only weeks left, to live on this Earth.

November 4th 2008. Remember that date.
The countdown to the end of the age, started on that date.

May The Most High God have mercy, on our souls.

Regards to all deplorables,
Nowski
 

Zoner

Veteran Member
Cut through the dross and this is purely a war prep IMHO. Everything else is deflection and disinformation. Again, this is simple: It's a war prep and any other consideration is subordinate to that.

Best regards
Doc

I agree. And since they want the children to come home it would be well if their parents escort them home so they can adjust properly...

And the politicians are all busy getting reelected to think about any of this. Good time to strike.
 

danielboon

TB Fanatic
China, Russia consider joint defense response to U.S. missile shield

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/china-russia-consider-defense-response-us-missile-shield/ :siren::siren: Lt. Gen. Viktor Poznikhir of the Russian military’s General Staff accused the Pentagon of developing the shield as part of planning for a possible first nuclear strike. “The missile defense system considerably shifts the balance of offensive weapons, allowing the planning of a more efficient pre-emptive strike,” he said at a security conference in China.

Russia and China have frequently expressed concerns about the U.S. missile shield, but Poznikhir dropped any diplomatic reticence in his blunt speech that reflected a widening rift between Moscow and Washington.

“Russian military experts believe that the U.S. hopes to gain the capability to strike any region of the world, including Russia and China, with nuclear-tipped missiles with impunity,” he said. Poznikhir argued that Washington’s calculus would be to launch a first disarming strike and then rely on the missile shield to shoot down the remaining enemy missiles launched at the U.S. in a retaliatory strike.

He used an analogy of two gladiators armed with swords facing each other.

“If one of the gladiators takes up a shield, it will give him a marked advantage and make him think that he would be able to win, particularly if he strikes first,” he said. “What would another gladiator do? Naturally, he also would pick up a shield and also a longer and stronger sword. This is what happening now as a result of the U.S. missile deployment.”

Poznikhir said that both Russia and China have taken countermeasures in response to the U.S. missile defense program, but he didn’t elaborate.

He noted that Russia and China held drills earlier this year to simulate a joint action to fend off missile strikes under the protection of a missile defense system near their borders. Poznikhir added that Moscow and Beijing will conduct a similar exercise next year.

Like other Russian officials before him, Poznikhir shrugged off U.S. statements that the missile defense system is intended to fend off threats from North Korea and Iran. He argued that the planned U.S. system will include hundreds of missile interceptors - a capability far exceeding the need to deal with any potential threats from Iran and North Korea.

“Under the pretext of countering the North Korean and Iranian ‘missile threats,’ the system intended primarily for engaging Russian and Chinese missiles is being developed,” he said.

“The illusion of invulnerability and impunity under the missile defense umbrella would encourage Washington to take unilateral steps in dealing with global and regional issues,” Poznikhir said. “That can objectively lead to lowering the threshold of nuclear weapons use to pre-empt the enemy’s action.”

He added that governments in Europe and Asia which agreed to host elements of the U.S. missile shield had made their people “hostages of the U.S. unpredictable action.”
 

MountainBiker

Veteran Member
...Russian state officials and government workers were told to bring back their children studying abroad immediately, even if means cutting their education short and not waiting until the end of the school year, and re-enroll them in Russian schools...
It would be one thing if they were being told at the end of the school year, or no new students going abroad, but to do so in the middle of a semester? That catches my attention.
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
Gee folks, Reagan wanted to give our Star Wars missile defense to the Russki's so they could feel safe against first attack. Obviously he was some sort of Commie agent.

Putin is KGB. Everything he thinks or does is colored by that. As for jerking the kids back, do you suppose Daddy has a fat bank account there outside the Russian economy.?

Naaaaah! He'd never do anything like that.
 

doctor_fungcool

TB Fanatic
I've been doing a massive amount of reading both on markets......and the possibility of a major war enveloping the globe. In all my days I have never seen the world so unstable....


.
This article is more than a year old....however, it has some really interesting scenarios concerning WWIII........If you get cold chills running up and down your spin while reading it....join the club!

NOTE: If what I think will happen... happens, I'll meet you on the other side.


OH..........by the way....I'M ISSUING A FUNG WWIII RED ALERT for the next 60 days...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/14/heres-how-world-war-three-could-start-tomorrow/
 
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doctor_fungcool

TB Fanatic
GAZETTE [ANE – MIC] Geographic Targets The need for speed & geo – targeting Both the [PRC] Peoples Republic of China and the [ANE-MIC] American Neocon Empire – Military Industrial Complex have Nuclear Weapon’s but to have even a chance of defeating the Empire, Nukes’ have to be rapidly delivered, not take a half hour from launch to target. There is a serious need for speed of delivery. The weapons must be not only of rapid delivery but up close and personal, Submarines are to date the most effective but in the age of drones, a smaller target, sleek and almost unstoppable, surface ships should serve the purpose just a well as Submarines with less cost. The Nuke weapons must inflict as much damage that is possible, and this is where geographic targets are far more important than cities unless they have nuclear launch capabilities or is an enemy leadership site, Washington, D.C. is the Empire’s. But, geographic targets increase the value of a nuclear strike. The San Andreas Fault Line in California is a major target, with a nuclear strike at the junction, of the San Andreas Fault & Imperial Fault line, [193 km] northeast of San Diego California. Yellowstone National Park has the largest volcano on the earth, and with all the fracking for oil and the increase in seismic activity, within the geographic region it will increase the nuclear strike value by tenfold at a minimum and will cause damage far into Canada and Mexico. Washington State in the general geographic area of Mt. St. Hellen, there are other volcanos that are just as dangerous and with an added kicker from a nuclear weapon again will increase the damage in the realm of magnitude’s. Nevada the Hoover Dam, the economic damage will increase the value of the cost of a nuclear weapons attack. In modern warfare, as with Sun Tzu, a war must be avoided if at all possible, but if not it must be fought on your terms and not that of the enemy, it must be a first strike, it must be a rapid strike, it must be a devastating strike to the enemy with as little loss to your own forces, and this is even more a necessity when the fight for survival is against the [ANE – MIC] and [HRC] Hillary Rodham Clinton, has made it clear that the Empire under the [HRC] presidency is to strike both the Russian and Chinese People and bend them to the will of [HRC], her [MIC] Military Industrial Complex heads are going around to their pre – strike units at this very moment, and have gone to a Nuclear First Strike status. HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN

http://www.pravdareport.com/news/hotspots/conflicts/30-09-2016/135745-usa_russia-0/
 

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TB Fanatic
I've been doing a massive amount of reading both on markets......and the possibility of a major war enveloping the globe. In all my days I have never seen the world so unstable....


.
This article is more than a year old....however, it has some really interesting scenarios concerning WWIII........If you get cold chills running up and down your spin while reading it....join the club!

NOTE: If what I think will happen... happens, I'll meet you on the other side.


OH..........by the way....I'M ISSUING A FUNG WWIII RED ALERT for the next 60 days...

hxxp://xxx.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/14/heres-how-world-war-three-could-start-tomorrow/

-snip-

The "Can't tell" telegraph website is on the TB2K NO-Fly list
(for threatening to sue Dennis if any stories are posted!!!)

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?435122-PROSCRIBED-SITES-LIST
 

China Connection

TB Fanatic
One of my reasons for being back home in Australia is that I expect war, to start and China etc to be involved.

The movie below is about two men who were in Nepal which was a British colony and were mountaineering on Mout Everest and got impounded into a P.O.W. camp when the second world war started.

China is one place I wouldn't like to get impounded



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Seven Years in Tibet
1997 ‧ Drama film/History ‧ 2h 19m
7/10IMDb
2.5/4Roger Ebert
61%Rotten Tomatoes
An egocentric Austrian mountaineer (Brad Pitt) gradually learns selflessness from the young Dalai Lama.
Initial release: October 8, 1997 (USA)
Director: Jean-Jacques Annaud
Music composed by: John Williams
Awards: Rembrandt Awards: Best Actor
Nominations: Japan Academy Prize for Outstanding Foreign Language Film, Golden Globe Award for Best Original Score

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Seven Years in Tibet: My Life Before, During and After (1952; German: Sieben Jahre in Tibet. Mein Leben am Hofe des Dalai Lama; 1954 in English) is an autobiographical travel book written by Austrian mountaineer Heinrich Harrer based on his real life experiences in Tibet between 1944 and 1951 during the Second World War and the interim period before the Communist Chinese People's Liberation Army invaded Tibet in 1950.

The book covers the escape of Harrer and his companion, Peter Aufschnaiter, from a British internment camp in India. Harrer and Aufschnaiter then traveled across Tibet to Lhasa, the capital. Here they spent several years, and Harrer describes the contemporary Tibetan culture in detail. Harrer subsequently became a tutor and friend of the 14th Dalai Lama.

Seven Years in Tibet was translated into 53 languages, became a bestseller in the United States in 1954, and sold three million copies.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Years_in_Tibet
 

Sleeping Cobra

TB Fanatic
"There has not been another time, since The Cuban Missile Crisis,
where the world has been this close to nuclear war"

I was thinking about the cuban missile crisis and how close to war we are today.
 

cowboy

Veteran Member
The new Russia, is battening down the hatches,
in preparation for a possible false flag, before the FUSA elections,
if it appears that Trump will win, or if the Hildebeest,
is to be placed into the POTUS.

A false flag event in Syria, which will then result in FUSA troops,
on the ground. The FUSA cannot loose Syria, as it will result
in the demise of the petro-dollar.

The insertion of FUSA troops into Syria, will result in a
massive push back by the new Russia.

There has not been another time, since The Cuban Missile Crisis,
where the world has been this close to nuclear war.

We could all have only weeks left, to live on this Earth.

November 4th 2008. Remember that date.
The countdown to the end of the age, started on that date.

May The Most High God have mercy, on our souls.

Regards to all deplorables,
Nowski

Shoo! The way the Russian air fleet is working it looks like they will be done by midnight. I sort of took "the end of the study" to mean don't wait for the 3:00 bell.
 

Possible Impact

TB Fanatic
:siren: :siren: :siren:

All Normal US-Russian Channels of Cooperation ‘Frozen’
- Ambassador


23:54 11.10.2016(updated 00:05 12.10.2016)
https://m.sputniknews.com/politics/201610111046240020-us-russia-cooperation/

All normal channels of collaboration between the United States and Russia
have been cut off across a wide range of critical issues, Russian Ambassador
to the United States Sergey Kislyak said on Tuesday.

WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — Kislyak added that the United States and Russia
once had a bilateral commission of 21 working groups focused on science,
technology, military, nuclear and other issues, which no longer exists.

“All the normal channels of cooperation between states [US and Russia]
are frozen,” Kislyak stated.

 

LightEcho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Gee folks, Reagan wanted to give our Star Wars missile defense to the Russki's so they could feel safe against first attack. Obviously he was some sort of Commie agent.

Putin is KGB. Everything he thinks or does is colored by that. As for jerking the kids back, do you suppose Daddy has a fat bank account there outside the Russian economy.?

Naaaaah! He'd never do anything like that.

Money? You mean fiat digits on computers? When this war goes hot, those will be worth less than dust. Money won't matter. Physical assets, labor force, means of production, means of protection, stored energy and exploitable energy sources, military hardware... these are what they will count on.

We are far beyond worrying about debt and money exchanges. That includes "frozen assets".
 

doctor_fungcool

TB Fanatic
O.T.....please don't comment on this info....this is just a heads up as to where we're headed.


https://www.rt.com/news/362391-us-south-korea-drills/


US-South Korea naval drills reportedly include rehearsal of Kim Jong-un assassination
Published time: 11 Oct, 2016 15:46

Joint US-South Korea naval drills will involve the nuclear-powered USS Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier and will see both militaries rehearse strategies to kill North Korean leaders in the event of attacks by Pyongyang, a Defense Ministry official has said.

Read more
In this September 26, 2016 US Navy handout photo, Republic of Korean ships Seoae Ryusungryong, Yul Gok Yii, Kang Gam Chan and the US Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Spruance, conduct maneuvers during a combined maritime operation in the waters East of the Korean Peninsula. © US Navy S. Korean helicopter crashes during ‘show of force’ snap drills with US navy

The Invincible Spirit naval exercises, which started on Monday, will run for six days and will see drills take place in the Sea of Japan and Yellow Sea.

A South Korean defense spokesperson said in a statement the drills will involve ship-to-ground and submarine-to-ground cruise missile exercises with average flight ranges of up to 1,000km.

The exercises are taking place amid reports North Korea is preparing to test a sixth nuclear bomb or another long-range missile.

The USS Ronald Reagan, which is based in Kanagawa, Japan, is the flagship vessel of Carrier Strike Group 5 and will join dozens of warships and submarines for the large-scale naval exercises, the first of their kind since July 2010.

Plans to take out North Korean leaders in the event of a strike by Pyongyang will also be practiced, a South Korean Defense Ministry official told the Yonhap news agency.

"The 'Invincible Spirit' exercise has put a bigger focus on striking North Korea's key nuclear and missile facilities. The change comes after the North's fifth nuclear test last month," the official said.

The Korea Massive Punishment and Retaliation strategy would directly target key sites in the North, including its war command post, atomic sites and leadership, such as Kim Jong-un.
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South Korean (blue headbands) and U.S. Marines take positions as amphibious assault vehicles of the South Korean Marine Corps fire smoke bombs during a U.S.-South Korea joint landing operation drill in Pohang, South Korea, March 12, 2016. © Kim Hong-Ji US-South Korea ‘preemptive attack simulation’ drills enrage Pyongyang

The plan would also involve special operations forces, the official said.

Pyongyang claimed to have conducted its fifth atomic test last month, triggering a 5.3 magnitude tremor near the detonation site.

US President Barack Obama responded by saying the test would have “serious consequences” and repeated America’s “unbreakable” commitment to the security of South Korea and Japan.

Shortly after, the US and South Korea conducted joint naval exercises in the Sea of Japan and flew two supersonic bombers over the South.

One of the B-1B aircraft flew the closest a bomber had ever flown to the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) separating the North and South.

The US has 28,500 troops stationed in South Korea and approximately 50,000 based in Japan.
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agree absolutely wholeheartedly

but am just barely not old enough to recall social anecdote from the missiles of October!

Question for old timers, did Kruschev ever issue an order for students on VISA to return to the USSR?

Is there precedent? Or is this a first in your memory?
 

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'Proportional Response':
Did the White House Just Threaten to Hack Russia?

23:58 11.10.2016(updated 23:59 11.10.2016)
https://m.sputniknews.com/politics/201610111046239820-white-house-russia-cyberattack-response/

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Four days after publicly accusing the Russian government of hacking into
the Democratic National Committee (DNC), the Obama Administration
has announced plans for what it terms a “proportional” response.

On Friday, the US Department of Homeland Security and the Office of the
Director of National Intelligence released a statement formally accusing
Moscow of attempting to influence the US election by hacking into servers
belonging to the DNC. It followed a series of informal accusations against
Russia for the hacks, also made without evidence.

On Tuesday, the White House offered some idea of how
it plans to respond.

"There are a range of responses that are available to
the president and he will consider a response that is
proportional
," White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest
told reporters.

"The president has talked before about the significant
capabilities that the US government has to both defend
our systems in the United States but also carry out
offensive operations in other countries
."

He added that whatever action the US decides to take
will not be announced to the public in advance.


Speaking to Radio Sputnik, Ohio State University Professor Emeritus
of International Law John Quigley pointed out that the basis for the
decision is largely ungrounded.

"Well, it seems a bit ambiguous. The statement said that it is consistent
with methods used which is a formulation that falls short of saying that
they definitely know what is going on," Quigley said.

"Speculation a week or so ago was that the United States would not come
out with these accusations because it raises the question of what it could
do next," he added. "The likelihood is that it will not do much. I think that
probably the president wanted to make this information public but that he
doesn’t really have in mind any specific countermeasure."

The Russian government has dismissed the allegations against it as part
of a "hysterical campaign."

Speaking to Russia’s Channel One broadcaster, Russian Foreign Minister
Sergey Lavrov stated, 'When I discussed the issue with US Secretary
of State [John] Kerry last time, I told him that we have had some
consultations. After all, we also do not want our nationals to engage
in cybercrime. This can be turned against Russia."

"We do not want to cause any damage to other countries as well," Lavrov
detailed, adding, "It is funny, that there is quite a hysterical campaign
underway in the context of the elections debates [suggesting] that we
have hacked the sites of the Democratic Party and Pentagon."

Lavrov said that Kerry expressed interest in bilateral consultations over
the issue, but apparently the White House derailed the overture.


 
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All Normal US-Russian Channels of Cooperation ‘Frozen’
- Ambassador


23:54 11.10.2016(updated 00:05 12.10.2016)
https://m.sputniknews.com/politics/201610111046240020-us-russia-cooperation/

All normal channels of collaboration between the United States and Russia
have been cut off across a wide range of critical issues, Russian Ambassador
to the United States Sergey Kislyak said on Tuesday.

WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — Kislyak added that the United States and Russia
once had a bilateral commission of 21 working groups focused on science,
technology, military, nuclear and other issues, which no longer exists.

“All the normal channels of cooperation between states [US and Russia]
are frozen,” Kislyak stated.


This tells me that the Russians have intercepted intelligence regarding possible hostile moves in the offing, things that we have not seen in print.
 
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