WAR Russian air defense systems headed for Iran (could trigger Israeli strike)

This delivery could trigger an Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear facilities. The S-300 is a game changer and could nullify Israel's ability to stop Iran's nuclear program with an airstrike.

I've warned about this before:

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=292078
(Note: The SA-20 is the NATO term for the S-300 air defense system)

http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2008/11/is-israel-about-to-strike-irans-nuclear.html

Finish all preps ASAP!

(One should note that these developments are occurring into the presidential inauguration and power transition....a time of significant vulnerability for the U.S.)

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Russian air defence systems for Iran
Dec. 19
Vladimir Radyuhin

http://www.hindu.com/2008/12/19/stories/2008121977771500.htm

MOSCOW: Russia has begun deliveries of its most potent air defence systems to Iran, a Russian news agency reported.

Russia is currently fulfilling a contract to deliver S-300 air defence systems to Iran, RIA news agency reported quoting confidential sources in the Russian Defence Ministry.

The move has rattled Israel, which has immediately dispatched a senior Defence Ministry official to Russia to thwart the sale.

Moscow earlier met its obligations on supplying Tor-M1 systems to Iran and is currently implementing a contract to deliver S-300 systems, RIA said. Russia supplied 29 Tor-M1 short-range air-defence complexes to Iran a year ago under a $1.4-billion contract.

The S-300 is a long-range air defence system. Earlier defence sources said Moscow was planning to sell Iran five batteries of 300PMU-1 launchers at a price of $800 million. A typical S-300 battery contains 48 missiles on 12 mobile launchers. The S-300PMU can intercept missiles and aircraft from more than 120 km away.

The powerful combination of advanced short-range and long-range air defence systems will enable Iran to counter any Israeli or U.S. attacks. Israeli Defence Ministry official Amos Gilad arrived in Moscow on Wednesday to try and persuade the Russians to cancel the deal on the grounds that it could upset the balance of power in West Asia. Russia has rejected the Israeli protest.

Russia’s military and technical cooperation with Iran has a positive impact on stability in this region,” deputy head of Russia’s Federal Military Technical Cooperation Service Alexander Fomin told RIA.

We have developed, are developing and will continue to develop this cooperation further. The region’s security to a large extent depends on this, he added.

In another move that strengthens Russia’s influence in West Asia, Moscow offered to give Lebanon as a gift 10 MiG-29 fighter jets. U.S. media described the offer as a slap to the U.S., which has refused to provide Lebanon with modern warplanes that could threaten Israel.

Lebanon’s Defence Minister Elias Murr said the unexpected offer made his trip to Moscow this week “the most important visit I have made since my appointment as Minister of Defence.

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Russian S-300 anti-air weapon already delivered to Iran
DEBKAfile Special Report

http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=5778

December 18, 2008, 12:00 PM (GMT+02:00)

Russian S-300s on way to guarding Iran's nuclear sites

Despite the efforts of US and Israeli leaders, Moscow has begun delivering the highly sophisticated medium-range air defense S-300 system to Iran for securing its nuclear and strategic sites against potential attack.

The RIA news agency reported Wednesday night, Dec. 18: "Moscow has earlier met its obligations to supply Tor-M1 (short-range) systems to Iran and is currently implementing its contract to deliver S-300 systems."

DEBKAfile's military sources disclose the S-300 deliveries began two weeks ago.

Their installation, coinciding with the return home of members of Iranian air defense officers from training in Russia, means that air or missile attacks on Iranian sites will henceforth be extremely difficult and carry a high price.

On 9th October, DEBKAfile's Moscow sources reported that Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert failed in the key mission of his trip to persuade Russian leaders to refrain from selling this advanced weapon to Iran and Syria.

On July 9, US Secretary of State Robert Gates said: "Based on what I know, it's highly unlikely that those air defense missiles would be in Iranian hands any time soon." Clearly, Gates was misinformed and his intelligence wrong, since five months on, those missiles are on their way to Iran.

While both the Bush administration and Israeli leaders insisted that a military option remained on the table if Iran persisted in its nuclear weapons program, neither took into account that Tehran was not deterred or standing idle.

This week, the Israeli defense ministry announced that Amos Gilead, a high official, would travel to Moscow Wednesday, Dec. 17 in a final bid to hold the Kremlin's hand. But Olmert and defense minister Ehud Barak had missed another boat.

DEBKAfile's military and intelligence sources report that after Iran, Moscow will install the S-300 in Syria, focusing on securing the Russian naval bases going up in the Mediterranean port of Tartous. By selling these countries top-line weaponry, Moscow is strengthening its military presence and influence in two Middle East countries of especial interest to the United States and Israel – a tactic Soviet Russian employed in the Cold War.

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The S-300 Arrives

http://formerspook.blogspot.com/2008/12/s-300-arrives.html

Dec. 18

Aviation Week is reporting that Russia has already begun deliveries of the S-300 air defense system to Iran.

Moscow's confirmation comes just days after U.S. defense officials reported that Tehran had signed an agreement to acquire the state-of-the-art missile system. At the time, it was suggested that Russia would ship the air defense hardware through Belarus, to avoid direct participation in the deal.

But, when questioned by the RIA-Novosti news agency, a Russian official practically bragged about the sale, saying that weapons deliveries to Iran "have a positive impact on regional stability."

While U.S. intelligence has not confirmed the S-300's arrival in Iran, there is little reason to doubt the Aviation Week account. The mobile system is air-transportable, and Russia has enough heavy lift assets to move a full battery (or entire battalion's worth of equipment) to Iran, in relatively short order.

Shipments of the S-300 to other export clients--including Vietnam and China--have been handled by ship, through ports on the Black Sea. Air transport is not only much faster, it avoids potential political problems associated with military shipments through the Black Sea and Suez Canal, or the Caspian Sea. There was some speculation that Israel might attempt to interdict SAM shipments made by ship.

Iran is apparently receiving the S-300PMU1 Favorit, one of the newest models of the air defense system. Capable of engaging multiple targets simultaneously, the S-300 version being acquired by Tehran can intercept aircraft at ranges up to 200km, and ballistic missiles at a distance of 40km. The S-300's overall capabilities are roughly akin to those of the U.S. Patriot system.

As we've noted in previous posts, the S-300 (NATO designation: SA-20) fills a critical gap in the Iranian air defense system. Until its acquisition of the SA-15 last year, Tehran relied on a collection of aging Russian, Chinese and U.S. equipment to defend its airspace. The only "long-range" SAM currently in Tehran's inventory, the Russian-built SA-5, has no capability against tactical aircraft or ballistic missiles. Correcting those deficiencies (and others), the S-300 represents a quantum leap in Iranian air defense capabilities.

The system's rush delivery to Tehran is clearly aimed at deterring an Israeli or U.S. air strike. And, in that regard, the S-300 is something of a game-changer, forcing changes in potential tactics and strike plans. Operating in airspace defended by the system carries considerable risks; it's a threat that must be considered in any future campaigns against Iran.

But Iran's new SAM system is hardly invulnerable. With precise intelligence, optimal planning and tactical execution, the S-300 menace can be neutralized. Still, achieving that goal will be difficult. Locating mobile SAMs requires more ISR assets, and taking them out dictates a greater allocation of standoff weapons and aircraft dedicated to the SEAD (suppression of enemy air defense mission.

Such requirements would (seemingly) pose the greatest challenge for the Israelis, who have a more limited ability to project airpower over long distances, and sustain air attacks against those targets. However, it would be a grave mistake for the Iranians--or their Russian suppliers--to underestimate the IAF.

During last year's strike on that Syrian nuclear facility, the Israeli strike package flew unmolested to the target and back again. By some accounts, the Syrians never knew that Israeli jets were in their airspace until the bombs demolished that nuclear reactor. More embarrassing, Damascus's integrated air defense system never engaged the IAF formation.

Achieving that level of surprise--and success--has long been a hallmark of the Israeli Air Force. It's also an indication of how well the IAF knows its adversaries and their vulnerabilities. There have been reports that Israel used information operations to blind the Syrian IADS, specifically an attack on the computers and nodes that control the air defense system.

Both Israel and the United States are capable of a similar effort against Iran. Once operational, the S-300 batterys in Iran will be tied into the country's air defense network, a system that has long been vulnerable to saturation, jamming and confusion. Without reliable information from early warning radars and air defense centers, the S-300 will be forced into an autonomous mode.

While most surface-to-air missiles are capable of operating on their own, they are less efficient and more susceptible to interdiction efforts. Isolating a SAM battery is often the first step in killing it.
 
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Iranian source reports delivery of Russian missiles

Iranian source reports delivery of Russian missiles

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3642017,00.html

Published: 12.21.08, 15:50 / Israel News

Russia has begun delivering S-300 air defence systems to Iran which could help repel any Israeli and US air strikes on its nuclear sites, the official IRNA news agency reported on Sunday.

"After few years of talks with Russia ... now the S-300 system is being delivered to Iran," IRNA quoted Email Kosari, deputy head of parliament's Foreign Affairs and National Security committee, as saying.

Kosari did not say when the deliveries began. Iran's Foreign Ministry declined to comment on the report. (Reuters)

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Russia starts missile delivery to Iran: Iranian MP

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/21/AR2008122100575.html

Reuters
Sunday, December 21, 2008; 9:45 AM

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Russia has begun delivering S-300 air defense systems to Iran which could help repel any Israeli and U.S. air strikes on its nuclear sites, the official IRNA news agency reported on Sunday.

"After few years of talks with Russia ... now the S-300 system is being delivered to Iran," IRNA quoted Email Kosari, deputy head of parliament's Foreign Affairs and National Security committee, as saying.

Kosari did not say when the deliveries began. Iran's Foreign Ministry declined to comment on the report. Russia's Foreign Ministry also declined comment, saying it may react on Monday.

The United States, its European allies and Israel say Iran is seeking to build nuclear arms under the cover of a civilian atomic energy program. Iran denies the charge.

Israel's insistence that Iran must not be allowed to develop an atomic bomb has fueled speculation that the Jewish state, widely assumed to have the Middle East's only nuclear arsenal, could mount its own pre-emptive strikes.

In October, Russia's Foreign Ministry denied media speculation that Moscow would sell the medium-range S-300 system, adding Moscow had no intention of selling weapons to "troubled regions."

But Russia's RIA news agency last week quoted "confidential sources" as saying that Russia was fulfilling a S-300 contract with Iran.

The most advanced version of the S-300 system can track targets and fire at aircraft 120 km (75 miles) away. It is known in the West as the SA-20.

Russian arms sales and nuclear cooperation with Iran have strained relations with Washington, which says Tehran could use them against their interests in the region and also against its neighbors.

Russia, building Iran's first nuclear power plant in the southern port city of Bushehr, says Tehran does not have the capability to make nuclear weapons.

Kosari said the S-300 system would be used "to reinforce Iran's capability to defend its borders."

"The delivery of this system is a display of good relations between Iran and Russia, which cannot be harmed by Israel," IRNA quoted Kosari as saying.

(Additional reporting by Conor Sweeney in Moscow; Writing by Parisa Hafezi; Editing by Katie Nguyen)
 
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TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
Iranian source reports delivery of Russian missiles

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3642017,00.html

Published: 12.21.08, 15:50 / Israel News

Russia has begun delivering S-300 air defence systems to Iran which could help repel any Israeli and US air strikes on its nuclear sites, the official IRNA news agency reported on Sunday.

"After few years of talks with Russia ... now the S-300 system is being delivered to Iran," IRNA quoted Email Kosari, deputy head of parliament's Foreign Affairs and National Security committee, as saying.

Kosari did not say when the deliveries began. Iran's Foreign Ministry declined to comment on the report. (Reuters)


Oh lord. :shk:
 

almost ready

Inactive
Looks like the delivery is currently in progress

The speedy delivery by air may have been a surprise. You don't think they'd announce until they had this in place and functional, at least some units. New moon in 6 days, but with Olmert talking peace with Syria and the elections off some time yet, who knows what will happen.

Iran says air defense purchase completed
Published: Dec. 21, 2008 at 4:02 PM
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TEHRAN, Dec. 21 (UPI) -- Iran has begun accepting delivery of components for an advanced Russian S-300 air defense system, a senior Iranian lawmaker said Sunday.


Esmaeil Kosari, deputy chairman of the Iranian Parliament's commission on national security and foreign policy, told the Iranian news agency IRNA that Iran and Russian have finalized a deal on the surface-to-air defense system, and that the Islamic Republic would deploy it to strengthen its border areas.

The report comes after Iran recently acknowledged taking delivery of 29 Russian-made Tor-M1 air defense missile systems as part of a $700 million contract signed in 2005, RIA Novosti reported. Russian officials say they have trained Iranian military specialists, including radar operators and crew commanders.

The Russian news agency says the advanced version of the S-300 missile system purchased by Iran, called S-300PMU1, or SA-20 Gargoyle, has a range of more than 100 miles and can intercept ballistic missiles and aircraft at low and high altitudes.

S O T, thanks for the heads up. AR
 
You don't think they'd announce until they had this in place and functional, at least some units.


And this is a key point.

It's almost as if the Iranians and Russians were intentionally pressing the Israelis to strike going into the transfer of power in Israel and, more so, America.

Now why would that be?...

:kaid::kaid::kaid:

What's really alarming is that the Kremlin might be pressing to kick off the Apocalypse into Christmas given the machinations of the Antichrist:

http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2008/09/rise-of-antichrist.html
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
And this is a key point.

It's almost as if the Iranians and Russians were intentionally pressing the Israelis to strike going into the transfer of power in Israel and, more so, America.

Now why would that be?...

:kaid::kaid::kaid:

What's really alarming is that the Kremlin might be pressing to kick off the Apocalypse into Christmas given the machinations of the Antichrist:

http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2008/09/rise-of-antichrist.html

I think its not going to happen, there will be no Israeli strike on Iran, what entitles the Israelis to bomb Iran\nothing whatsoever
get a ****ing life
 

Jean B

Veteran Member
What's really alarming is that the Kremlin might be pressing to kick off the Apocalypse into Christmas given the machinations of the Antichrist:

I'm still waiting to see if we get through to Christmas without a major incident. I hope this is not on the agenda.
 

Kent

Inactive
I think its not going to happen, there will be no Israeli strike on Iran, what entitles the Israelis to bomb Iran\nothing whatsoeverget a ****ing life

Oh, I don't know, maybe because Iran said they would wipe Israel off the earth, and with nukes they could do it.
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
Oh, I don't know, maybe because Iran said they would wipe Israel off the earth, and with nukes they could do it.

they don't have them, not even one

don't get me wrong I think the Iranians are crap but they won't be able to nuke the Jews or anyone else
its gone very quiet in Iran
I've been there
 

genrim

Veteran Member
From the Washington Post:

Russia starts missile delivery to Iran: Iranian MP

Sunday, December 21, 2008; 9:45 AM

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Russia has begun delivering S-300 air defense systems to Iran which could help repel any Israeli and U.S. air strikes on its nuclear sites, the official IRNA news agency reported on Sunday.

"After few years of talks with Russia ... now the S-300 system is being delivered to Iran," IRNA quoted Email Kosari, deputy head of parliament's Foreign Affairs and National Security committee, as saying.

Kosari did not say when the deliveries began. Iran's Foreign Ministry declined to comment on the report. Russia's Foreign Ministry also declined comment, saying it may react on Monday.

The United States, its European allies and Israel say Iran is seeking to build nuclear arms under the cover of a civilian atomic energy program. Iran denies the charge.

Israel's insistence that Iran must not be allowed to develop an atomic bomb has fueled speculation that the Jewish state, widely assumed to have the Middle East's only nuclear arsenal, could mount its own pre-emptive strikes.

In October, Russia's Foreign Ministry denied media speculation that Moscow would sell the medium-range S-300 system, adding Moscow had no intention of selling weapons to "troubled regions."

But Russia's RIA news agency last week quoted "confidential sources" as saying that Russia was fulfilling a S-300 contract with Iran.

The most advanced version of the S-300 system can track targets and fire at aircraft 120 km (75 miles) away. It is known in the West as the SA-20.

Russian arms sales and nuclear cooperation with Iran have strained relations with Washington, which says Tehran could use them against their interests in the region and also against its neighbors.

Russia, building Iran's first nuclear power plant in the southern port city of Bushehr, says Tehran does not have the capability to make nuclear weapons.

Kosari said the S-300 system would be used "to reinforce Iran's capability to defend its borders."

"The delivery of this system is a display of good relations between Iran and Russia, which cannot be harmed by Israel," IRNA quoted Kosari as saying.


(Additional reporting by Conor Sweeney in Moscow; Writing by Parisa Hafezi; Editing by Katie Nguyen)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/21/AR2008122100575.html
 

Scotto

Set Apart
It does seem that Iran has been defiant and goading Israel on for quite some time now. Maybe Israel should just nuke the crap out of 'em and get it over with already. With Iran's threats of "wiping them off the map," they'd better $h!t or get off the pot.
 

imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
We were just discussing this here...

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?p=3176215#post3176215

Did you know that just a few weeks ago -on July 9, US Secretary of State Robert Gates said: “Based on what I know, it’s highly unlikely that those air defense missiles would be in Iranian hands any time soon.”

Now there is some real reassuring intelligence, huh?

It's going to be real interesting when that skinny lil socialist gets to play CIC in 4 weeks. That ought to be a real boost to our global image.

Those warnings from Powell and from Biden were based on something.
 
I think its not going to happen, there will be no Israeli strike on Iran, what entitles the Israelis to bomb Iran\nothing whatsoever
get a ****ing life

Very well argued. :whistle:


Nevertheless, I hope you're correct and the Israelis don't strike Iran. As for why they would, I venture to point out that Iran poses an existential threat to the Jewish state if armed with nukes.
 
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Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLBQW5c3q1Q


The S-300PMU [SA-10 land-based, SA-N-6 naval version] surface-to-air missile system is able to engage a number of targets simultaneously, countering intensive aircraft raids at low-to-high altitude. The SA-10 offers significant advantages over older strategic surface-to-air missile systems, including multitarget handling and engagement characteristics, a capability against low altitude targets with small radar cross-sections such as cruise missiles, a capability against tactical ballistic missiles, and possibly a potential to intercept some types of strategic ballistic missiles.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLBQW5c3q1Q


The S-300PMU [SA-10 land-based, SA-N-6 naval version] surface-to-air missile system is able to engage a number of targets simultaneously, countering intensive aircraft raids at low-to-high altitude. The SA-10 offers significant advantages over older strategic surface-to-air missile systems, including multitarget handling and engagement characteristics, a capability against low altitude targets with small radar cross-sections such as cruise missiles, a capability against tactical ballistic missiles, and possibly a potential to intercept some types of strategic ballistic missiles.

Iran's acquiring the SA-20 (S-300PMU-2 Favorite) - not the SA-10:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SA-10#S-300PMU-1.2F2_.28SA-20.29

From above:

Iran is apparently receiving the S-300PMU1 Favorit, one of the newest models of the air defense system. Capable of engaging multiple targets simultaneously, the S-300 version being acquired by Tehran can intercept aircraft at ranges up to 200km, and ballistic missiles at a distance of 40km. The S-300's overall capabilities are roughly akin to those of the U.S. Patriot system.

As we've noted in previous posts, the S-300 (NATO designation: SA-20) fills a critical gap in the Iranian air defense system. Until its acquisition of the SA-15 last year, Tehran relied on a collection of aging Russian, Chinese and U.S. equipment to defend its airspace. The only "long-range" SAM currently in Tehran's inventory, the Russian-built SA-5, has no capability against tactical aircraft or ballistic missiles. Correcting those deficiencies (and others), the S-300 represents a quantum leap in Iranian air defense capabilities.

The system's rush delivery to Tehran is clearly aimed at deterring an Israeli or U.S. air strike. And, in that regard, the S-300 is something of a game-changer, forcing changes in potential tactics and strike plans. Operating in airspace defended by the system carries considerable risks; it's a threat that must be considered in any future campaigns against Iran.
 
Israel And Iran Scramble In The Shadows

Israel And Iran Scramble In The Shadows

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htintel/articles/20081216.aspx

December 16, 2008: Israeli intelligence organization Mossad has failed in its campaign to sabotage Iran's nuclear weapons program. So far. Six years ago, Mossad said it would stop the Iranian efforts to build nukes. Mossad admitted that it had devoted a substantial portion of its resources to that effort since then. This included establishing companies that appeared to be willing to supply Iran with essential equipment they needed. This had some success in slipping specially modified gear into Iranian nuclear weapons facilities.

For example, Iran recently revealed that an Israeli spy they recently executed had allowed Israeli technicians to install special electronic equipment in computer equipment the spy bought for the Iranian government. The deceased spy, Ali Ashtari, procured legal, and illegal (barred by one of the many export sanctions directed at Iran) computer equipment for the Iranian government. But the Israelis paid more, and that enabled the Israelis to, in effect, install special components that enabled them to monitor what the Iranians were doing with some of the equipment that Ashtari obtained. Apparently, Ashtari did not know all the details of just what the Israelis installed in the imported computers and other electronic equipment. The Israeli "additions" apparently enabled Iranian weapons and technology developments to be monitored. The Iranians did not comment on what they are doing to get rid of all the Israeli modified gear they are using.

This effort was apparently one of the few successes in the Mossad effort. But Iran has, in the meantime, made steady progress in developing nuclear weapons. Mossad is not, obviously, discussing all of its efforts, and there may be other operations that have infiltrated the Iranian nuclear program, but have not yet bore fruit. So the Mossad operation may still succeed.

But in the meantime, Mossad has apparently had another failure. Israel has been trying to prevent Russia from delivering S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems to Iran. The S-300is similar to the U.S. Patriot system, which makes an Israeli effort to bomb Iranian facilities much more dangerous, and potentially impossible. Israel has apparently delayed Russian efforts to sell the S-300 to Iran, but recent reports indicate the deal is on again. It may be off again in another few weeks.

It's just another challenge for Mossad, in a battle that won't be over until Iran detonates its first nuke, and maybe not even then (building a reliable missile warhead or air-dropped bomb is quite an engineering feat.)
 

bobpick

Inactive
Consider this:

Take a down pillow and climb atop a tall building on a windy day. Cut the pillow and let the feathers fly.

Now wait 1/2 hour and then go collect the feathers. You can't, you say. We can't control where the wind blows, nor can we control the actions of nations. Debating what X will do, or what Y has purchased is rather a moot point. They will do as they please without consulting us.

Do as you please and prepare for where the winds will blow.
 

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Russia-Iran S-300 deal shrouded in mystery

OK....this report is from Iran's PressTV today:


Russia-Iran S-300 deal shrouded in mystery
Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:13:44 GMT

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=79213&sectionid=351020101

There have been contradictory reports about a Kremlin decision to provide Tehran with the S-300 system, which could effectively rule out an Israeli air strike on Iran's nuclear facilities.

Russia says it will only sell exclusively defensive systems to Iran amid Western disgruntlement over Tehran-Moscow military cooperation.

Commenting on media reports on the delivery of an advanced Russian air defense system to Iran, head of Russia's state-run arms exporter Rosoboronexport's press service Vyacheslav Davidenko said Moscow would continue cooperation with Tehran.

"At present, only systems of a defensive nature are being delivered to Iran, and air defense systems fall within this category," Davidenko told Itar-Tass on Monday.

The Rosoboronexport representative's remarks came after Iran confirmed the commencement of the delivery of a powerful anti-aircraft missile defense system from Russia.

Deputy Head of the National Security and Foreign Policy Commission in Iran's Majlis (parliament) Ismail Kowsari said Sunday that Tehran has sealed an agreement with Moscow on the delivery of the advanced S-300 surface-to-air missile system after lengthy negotiations.

Russia's military-technical cooperation agency later announced in a statement that, "The information on the delivery of S-300 air-defense systems to Iran, which has appeared in certain media outlets, does not correspond to reality".

Iran's Foreign Ministry Spokesman Hassan Qashqavi told reporters on Monday that Tehran "has not yet received anything final in this regard, therefore I can neither confirm nor deny this agreement".

This is while Interfax news agency later quoted an unnamed military source as saying that the S-300 missiles would soon be delivered to Iran from Russian Defense Ministry warehouses.

"The delivery of the S-300s to Iran is expected to be carried out from Defense Ministry storage sites. Currently the S-300s are being prepared for transfer to Rosoboronexport and then their shipment to the customer," he said.

The source added that Russia was planning to deliver S-300PMU1 systems, with a longer range than that of older versions.

The S-300 surface-to-air system features high jamming immunity and is able to engage up to 100 targets simultaneously.

"This is a purely defensive weapon, intended to protect especially important sites from aerial attack," Interfax quoted him as saying.

The advanced version of the S-300 system, the S-300PMU1 (SA-20 Gargoyle), can simultaneously intercept 100 ballistic missiles and aircraft, at low and high altitudes within a range of over 150 km.

According to intelligence officials familiar with S-300 defense capabilities, the missile system would effectively rule out an Israeli war against Iran.

"This is a system that scares every Western air force," says long-time Pentagon advisor Dan Goure, adding that it "could be a catalyst for Israeli air attacks before it's operational."

A senior Russian official said earlier that military cooperation between Moscow and Tehran would continue to ensure stability in the Middle East.

"Military-technical cooperation (arms sales) between Russia and Iran has a positive influence on stability in this region," Alexander Fomin, deputy head of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation, said Wednesday.

Israel has threatened to launch air strikes against Iran under the pretext that the country is developing a military nuclear program.

Iran rejects the allegations and insists that its work is directed at the civilian applications of the technology.

The International Atomic Energy Agency, the UN nuclear monitoring agency, which routinely inspects Iran's main enrichment facility at Natanz through visits and permanent video surveillance, confirmed in its latest report that it has "been able to continue to verify the non-diversion of declared nuclear material in Iran".

The UN body, however, insists that unless Tehran increases its cooperation with the agency, it "will not be able to provide credible assurance about the absence of undeclared nuclear material and activities in Iran".

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Now.

Why is a 'Russian official' explicitly detailing the delivery process of this missile system?

Why, given the admission in the article that delivery of the S-300 (SA-20) system could trigger an Israeli strike before it's received, are Iran and Russia being so incredibly transparent about the transaction?

Again....Iran and Russia are baiting Israel to attack:

http://www.spiritoftruth.org/iraniannuclearbomb.htm

In fact, this is obviously so at this point.

As to why?

To setoff World War Three in a manner that looks like 'the Jews fault':

http://www.spiritoftruth.org/truth.htm
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
ISRAEL IS NOT going to do a preemptive attack Iran. :sht:

hurrah MTE

its not going to happen

in spite of New Labour's desire for it to be so

Israel WILL NOT ATTACK IRAN

Kissenger to confirm or not

there will not be WWIII and the people on TB2000 should take credit for it except Moon who is a new labour war monger
 

Worrier King

Deceased
I guess we can quote you on this?

:p

You can.... the key word being preemptive.

Israel having a reason for retaliation is a whole 'nother equation.

Once again.... your going to have to hit at least 3,000 targets in Iran near simultaneously, or your going to see catastrophic results in Israel and to the regions oil infrastructure. Israel is not stupid enough to light that fuse.... the U.S. might be.

It would take a combined effort of most of the Western worlds military, the people using Iran as a proxy front comprehend this, and it would be impossible to coordinate such a attack and keep it a secret.
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
israel will not strike iran


you can quote me or flame me if I'm wrong

remember this


but it won 't have anything to do with monkeyman II
 

Vis Mega

Senior Member
I thought that deal was over and done with.

I'd bet dollars to dounts that that system is AT THE LEAST already secretly installed around the power planet disgusied as an older system.

Any time a major arms deal like this gets leaked on to the media you can bet its a done deal and not to mention that some 'free samples' have already been loaned out for testing and examination NOT TO MENTION that if YOU were the Russians and you had some of your best scientists working there would you not 'volenteer' the air defence system at the least for the period that your men were on the ground and to ensure the completion of the building contract?

If we're hearing about it, its a done deal.

Besides, if it triggers an Israeli strike wouldn't that mean the IDF has a work slow down or perhaps they even have to find scabs to fly the air planes?
 

truthseeker

Membership Revoked
I think the Russian's will back out of this deal.

Otherwise they could face nuclear destruction Moments after Iran lobbing anything in Israel's direction. The Russians wont put themselves into that situation. Im sure the Israeli's have to pay a price for Russia's cooperation.
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
One might think that it would be possible to fire up a bunch of drones that would 'spoof' the system and let the real stuff through.

Could one think that?
 

hank287

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The Israelis will neutralize anything the Russians and Arabs throw against them. If and when the Israelis attack Iran it may be with their submarines first or in concert with their superior air power. The arabs are jumping jackasses whose only effective weapon used against the Jews is the human bomb. Very creative but not very effective. Anyone fighting againt the Apple of God's Eye are cursed. Look at the whiney arabs of Gaza begging the Israeli gov't to turn the electricity back on! Pathetic. If it were me I would chase every last arab in Gaza west into the Sinai desert and let Egypt deal with their 'brethren'. Every arab in Judea and Samaria cleansed from the Land and pushed east into Jordan. Let them pound sand. They are insane. If I could press a button which would vaporize every muslin/arab on the planet I would do it. Nuff said.
 
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