ALERT RUSSIA INVADES UKRAINE - Consolidated Thread

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Abert

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colonel holman said:
THIS is about as provocative as we can get. Russia should be especially pissed about this flight with this weapon-carrier. A cruise missile launch would be tiny minutes flight to Moscow; even closer to some key first strike installations
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True - 100% provocation - but Russia will not be deterred - because even if that B-52 got the insane order to launch - While Russia's S400/500 might or might not be able to intercept all the cruise missiles targeting Moscow - the actual result would be that most of the key military bases and cities in the US (and Europe) would be gone 15 to 30 min later - and as the US has admitted - we have no defense. All during the Cold War both the US and Russia avoided situations that could be mistaken for an attack.
These are actions of a desperate nation - and an even more unstable and desperate president.
 
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raven

TB Fanatic
Abert said:
True - 100% provocation - but Russia will not be deterred - because even if that B-52 got the insane order to launch - While Russia's S400/500 might or might not be able to intercept all the cruise missiles targeting Moscow - the actual result would be that most of the key military bases and cities in the US (and Europe) would be gone 15 to 30 min later - and as the US has admitted - we have no defense. All during the Cold War both the US and Russia avoided situations that could be mistaken for an attack.
These are actions of a desperate nation - and an even more unstable and desperate president.
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Their belief system is perverted from reality. They could just as easily decide to burn it all down . . .
So we would beg them to save us.
 
Doomer Doug

Doomer Doug

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Doomer Doug said:
One of the major truck stops heading east/west on I/84 to and out of Portland just burnt to the ground. Taking down our transport system one chunk at a time. This truck stop was a transport hub.
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Some updated info says it happened in sherman county near dalles and biggs. It means no food to eat east of Portland for truckers. No place to park during bad weather. Last several months of EXTREME cold weather saw heavy use of this transport hub. And now it is ashes.
 
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DuckandCover

Proud Sheeple
colonel holman said:
THIS is about as provocative as we can get. Russia should be especially pissed about this flight with this weapon-carrier. A cruise missile launch would be tiny minutes flight to Moscow; even closer to some key first strike installations
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Similar to the Russians having subs off our coasts. Typical cold war type stuff.
 
Roger Thornhill

Roger Thornhill

Some irascible old curmudgeon
von Koehler said:
View: https://youtube.com/shorts/1hqN6FI49CY?feature=share


A minute
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I'm sorry, but this is a load of codswallop. A casualty ratio of 1000:1? What orifice is he pulling these numbers from?
Does he really believe that ten thousand NATO troops could defeat a million-man Russian army? NATO currently doesn't have the trained troops, equipment , or supplies to do much of anything, and the Germans and British have admitted this. The only military worthy of consideration is the Poles, and even they are not ready for a confrontation with Russia.

Do some research on current combat troop strengths, military supplies and resupply capacity, logistics, training and interoperabilty, along with a myriad of other factors. Zeihan is delusional.
 
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DuckandCover

Proud Sheeple
Roger Thornhill said:
I'm sorry, but this is a load of codswallop. A casualty ratio of 1000:1? What orifice is he pulling these numbers from?
Does he really believe that ten thousand NATO troops could defeat a million-man Russian army? NATO currently doesn't have the trained troops, equipment , or supplies to do much of anything, and the Germans and British have admitted this. The only military worthy of consideration is the Poles, and even they are not ready for a confrontation with Russia.

Do some research on current combat troop strengths, military supplies and resupply capacity, logistics, training and interoperabilty, along with a myriad of other factors. Zeihan is delusional.
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Well, the Uke military (granted, with some supplies from NATO) has pretty much fought Russia to a stalemate. Are you thinking NATO is weaker than the Uke military?--- of course it would take many more than 10,000 troops!
 
WildDaisy

WildDaisy

God has a plan, Trust it!
DuckandCover said:
Well, the Uke military (granted, with some supplies from NATO) has pretty much fought Russia to a stalemate. Are you thinking NATO is weaker than the Uke military?
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Yes.

US isnt as strong as it thinks either....not with today's culture. We got men who are women, women who are men, and a whole bunch of "its" that identify as inanimate objects and furry creatures. Not to mention this thing being the beginning of who knows what in the ranks. I guess we could confuse the enemy long enough to shoot them.

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Roger Thornhill

Roger Thornhill

Some irascible old curmudgeon
NATO has shipped so much equipment and ordnance to the Ukraine military that many stocks are almost completely depleted. The US assistant secretary of defense has stated that it will take SEVEN YEARS to build our supply of artillery shells and replacement barrels back to MINIMUM acceptable levels. The British Navy has turned into laughingstock, unable to keep either submarines or aircraft carriers at sea. The Germans have almost no armored vehicles ready for the field. The terrible details are many.

I love my country, and served in the military for many years. But I don't think we have even a fraction of the response capability we had thirty or forty years ago.
 
Zagdid

Zagdid

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wait-n-see said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1634641505246924800
View: https://twitter.com/PeImeniPusha/status/1634641505246924800?cxt=HHwWgMDS9bnytK8tAAAA
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Looks like the Mckinsey brothers got a new gig.
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Red Baron

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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Over the last year, the Ukraine war has played out both on the battlefields of Ukraine, and on global markets where energy warfare, sanctions, and industrial mobilisation efforts went head to head. Russia wanted to freeze Europe, while the Western allies sought to strangle the Russian economy with sanctions.

A year on - I want to look at how successful these competing economic campaigns have been. Setting the stage to look at battlefield developments, attrition, and force regeneration in the near future.

1:16:22

The Economic War in Ukraine a Year On - The energy war, politics & production

View: https://youtu.be/xmO1kfCr_II


Timestamps:
00:00:00 — Opening Words
00:02:18 — WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT?
00:02:49 — FREEZING EUROPE
00:03:48 — The Euro Response
00:05:59 — Climate & Culmination
00:07:20 — Cost To The Eurozone
00:09:46 — EU: Are Citizens’ Lives Heading The Right Direction? (graph)
00:11:21 — The External Costs
00:13:17 — Evaluation
00:14:02 — Side Note On Nord Stream Claims
00:17:45 — BREAKING UP UA's SUPPORT
00:20:37 — Support levels
00:21:43 — US Public Opinion
00:24:10 — More Global Opinion?
00:27:23 — Evaluation
00:27:51 — THE ECONOMIC WAR (ON RUSSIA)
00:29:02 — Energy Markets & Exports
00:34:10 — Follow On Sanctions And Induced Competition
00:35:43 — The Dispute Over Stats
00:37:23 — The Picture From Russia
00:39:01 — The Russian Budget
00:43:26 — Evaluation
00:44:26 — THE STRATEGIC BOMBING CAMPAIGN
00:46:57 — Economic Impacts
00:48:46 — The GBAD Problem
00:50:57 — THE PRODUCTION RACE - UKRAINE
00:53:25 — Strategic Imperative
00:56:28 — THRE PRODUCTION RACE - THE WEST
01:03:23 — THE PRODUCTION RACE - RUSSIA
01:06:25 — Defence Spending Is Surprisingly Low
01:08:17 — The Impact Of Sanctions & Inflation
01:14:52 — CONCLUSIONS
01:15:43 — CHANNEL UPDATE
 
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Troke

On TB every waking moment
Roger Thornhill said:
I'm sorry, but this is a load of codswallop. A casualty ratio of 1000:1? What orifice is he pulling these numbers from?
Does he really believe that ten thousand NATO troops could defeat a million-man Russian army? NATO currently doesn't have the trained troops, equipment , or supplies to do much of anything, and the Germans and British have admitted this. The only military worthy of consideration is the Poles, and even they are not ready for a confrontation with Russia.

Do some research on current combat troop strengths, military supplies and resupply capacity, logistics, training and interoperabilty, along with a myriad of other factors. Zeihan is delusional.
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Careful. It is Received Wisdom here that the Ukrainian debacle was caused by NATO provoking war with Russia via Ukraine. If Russian intelligence was stupid enough to believe that NATO had that military capability , they were stupid enough to believe Ukraine had no defense...oh wait.................
 
wait-n-see

wait-n-see

Veteran Member
The media are not quick to admit that Ukrainians are fleeing en masse… to Russia

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by Deep Geopolitics

Russia is the first destination for Ukrainian refugees in 2023​

Nearly 2,9 million Ukrainian refugees due to the Russian invasion have been registered in Russia as of October 3, 2022. In addition, around 1,6 million are believed to have fled to Poland as of February 14, 2023.

In total, more than eight million Ukrainian refugees have been registered across Europe. Most of them fled the country across the border with Poland.


STATESDATENUMBER OF REFUGEES
Russia10/3/222,852,395
Poland2/14/231,563,386
Germany1/31/231,055,323
Czech Republic2/12/23489,865
Italy1/27/23169,837
Spain2/13/23166,832
UK2/7/23161,400
France10/31/22118,994
Romania2/12/23109,871
Moldova2/12/23109,410
Slovakia2/14/23109,185
Turkey1/26/2395,874
Austria2/13/2393,171
Netherlands11/25/2285,210
Switzerland2/13/2380,324
Ireland2/13/2375,260
Lithuania2/13/2374,611
Belgium2/13/2367,761
Estonia2/13/2367,243
Portugal2/12/2357,859
Sweden2/13/2350,740
Bulgaria2/13/2350,373
Finland2/6/2347,067
Norway2/10/2339,931
Denmark1/29/2339,756
Latvia2/13/2335,322

We cannot say that the near 3 million Ukrainians traveling to Russia make the "one" of the Western media! Only 2 million choose Poland and Germany, but that thwarts the narrative!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1631070243425484801
View: https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1631070243425484801?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1631070243425484801%7Ctwgr%5E33d62e5ae6fe160a184fc83cf9e304341cd8a0a1%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.reseauinternational.net%2Fles-medias-ne-sempressent-pas-davouer-que-les-ukrainiens-fuient-massivement-en-russie%2F


Poland hosted the largest number of Ukrainian refugees.
Czechoslovakia received the highest number of refugees per capita.

Ukrainian refugees in Germany​

As of January 31, 2023, more than one million Ukrainian refugees were registered in Germany. There majority of Ukrainian refugees in the country have been registered in March and April 2022. At the end of April 2022, more than 610 refugees were officially registered by the authorities.

Germany had the highest monthly financial allowance for Ukrainians who fled the war compared to other European countries.

Temporary protection for Ukrainian refugees in the EU​

Members of the European Union (EU) implemented the Temporary Protection Directive (TPD), which guaranteed access to housing, social assistance and health care for Ukrainian refugees.

People fleeing the war had the right to obtain a residence permit in the EU, to enter the labor market and to enroll their children in educational establishments.

Protection was granted for one year from the beginning of the war in February 2022, but it could be extended depending on the situation in the country.

Poland, Germany and the Czech Republic had the highest number of people registered for temporary protection in the EU.
 
wait-n-see

wait-n-see

Veteran Member
A new Russian air-to-air missile with unprecedented precision in Ukraine

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March 12, 2023

by Sputnik Africa

“One missile is enough to shoot down a combat aircraft”. The accuracy of the new R-37M long-range air-to-air missiles used by Russian forces in Ukraine was found to be close to 100%, Sputnik learned from a knowledgeable source.

Highly combat-effective in the special military operation, Russia's new R-37M air-to-air missile is almost 100% capable of hitting its target, a knowledgeable source told Sputnik.

« When using this missile, the probability of hitting the targets is close to 1, i.e. one missile is enough to shoot down a Ukrainian combat aircraft “, indicated the interlocutor to our correspondent.

The R-37Ms shot down “ Su-27 and MiG-29 fighters, Su-25 attack aircraft, Su-24M front-line bombers, low-flying helicopters and various drones, including Bayraktar. At the same time, the missile proved to be very effective in hitting aircraft maneuvering with a large overload She added.

R-37M missile​

The R-37M belongs to the long-range air-to-air missiles. It can fly at six times the speed of sound (Mach 6) which makes it hypersonic. It has a range of 300 km and can hit a target flying at an altitude of 30 meters to 25 kilometers, according to information from open sources.

The missile was designed to destroy fighters, attack aircraft, bombers, military transport aircraft, helicopters, drones and cruise missiles day and night, from all angles, and despite the enemy's use of means electronic warfare.

According to the interlocutor of Sputnik, R-37M version intended for the Russian Aerospace Forces is more efficient than the RVV-BD version intended for export.
 
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Abert

Veteran Member
wait-n-see said:
A new Russian air-to-air missile with unprecedented precision in Ukraine

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March 12, 2023

by Sputnik Africa

“One missile is enough to shoot down a combat aircraft”. The accuracy of the new R-37M long-range air-to-air missiles used by Russian forces in Ukraine was found to be close to 100%, Sputnik learned from a knowledgeable source.

Highly combat-effective in the special military operation, Russia's new R-37M air-to-air missile is almost 100% capable of hitting its target, a knowledgeable source told Sputnik.

« When using this missile, the probability of hitting the targets is close to 1, i.e. one missile is enough to shoot down a Ukrainian combat aircraft “, indicated the interlocutor to our correspondent.

The R-37Ms shot down “ Su-27 and MiG-29 fighters, Su-25 attack aircraft, Su-24M front-line bombers, low-flying helicopters and various drones, including Bayraktar. At the same time, the missile proved to be very effective in hitting aircraft maneuvering with a large overload She added.

R-37M missile​

The R-37M belongs to the long-range air-to-air missiles. It can fly at six times the speed of sound (Mach 6) which makes it hypersonic. It has a range of 300 km and can hit a target flying at an altitude of 30 meters to 25 kilometers, according to information from open sources.

The missile was designed to destroy fighters, attack aircraft, bombers, military transport aircraft, helicopters, drones and cruise missiles day and night, from all angles, and despite the enemy's use of means electronic warfare.

According to the interlocutor of Sputnik, R-37M version intended for the Russian Aerospace Forces is more efficient than the RVV-BD version intended for export.
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I linked a few other article on this new missile in my post #48,475 - once again Russia has been able to test and verify the effectiveness of their newer weapon systems - not on a test range - but in a hot war, While this missile has been documented in several shoot downs of Mig's (it set a record for a kill at over 200km) its ultimate field test will have to wait for NATO to jump in,
The R-37 was primarily developed to shoot down our critical AWACS—Airborne Warning And Control System—aircraft! BTW: They would work just as well on those B-52 flying the Russian border.

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Zagdid

Zagdid

Veteran Member
wait-n-see said:
A new Russian air-to-air missile with unprecedented precision in Ukraine

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March 12, 2023

by Sputnik Africa

“One missile is enough to shoot down a combat aircraft”. The accuracy of the new R-37M long-range air-to-air missiles used by Russian forces in Ukraine was found to be close to 100%, Sputnik learned from a knowledgeable source.

Highly combat-effective in the special military operation, Russia's new R-37M air-to-air missile is almost 100% capable of hitting its target, a knowledgeable source told Sputnik.

« When using this missile, the probability of hitting the targets is close to 1, i.e. one missile is enough to shoot down a Ukrainian combat aircraft “, indicated the interlocutor to our correspondent.

The R-37Ms shot down “ Su-27 and MiG-29 fighters, Su-25 attack aircraft, Su-24M front-line bombers, low-flying helicopters and various drones, including Bayraktar. At the same time, the missile proved to be very effective in hitting aircraft maneuvering with a large overload She added.

R-37M missile​

The R-37M belongs to the long-range air-to-air missiles. It can fly at six times the speed of sound (Mach 6) which makes it hypersonic. It has a range of 300 km and can hit a target flying at an altitude of 30 meters to 25 kilometers, according to information from open sources.

The missile was designed to destroy fighters, attack aircraft, bombers, military transport aircraft, helicopters, drones and cruise missiles day and night, from all angles, and despite the enemy's use of means electronic warfare.

According to the interlocutor of Sputnik, R-37M version intended for the Russian Aerospace Forces is more efficient than the RVV-BD version intended for export.
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Read the reports of Russian jets flying high cover over combat areas. BVR radar intercepts with missiles sent miles out and target destruction verified by radar then ground forces. Very effective.
 
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Artificially Intelli

Senior Member
Roger Thornhill said:
I'm sorry, but this is a load of codswallop. A casualty ratio of 1000:1? What orifice is he pulling these numbers from?
Does he really believe that ten thousand NATO troops could defeat a million-man Russian army? NATO currently doesn't have the trained troops, equipment , or supplies to do much of anything, and the Germans and British have admitted this. The only military worthy of consideration is the Poles, and even they are not ready for a confrontation with Russia.

Do some research on current combat troop strengths, military supplies and resupply capacity, logistics, training and interoperabilty, along with a myriad of other factors. Zeihan is delusional.
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I've put Zeihan on ignore. He comes across as intelligent and educated, but then he makes crazy insane statements like 1000:1 casualty ratio in favor of NATO. He loses all credibility. He may be educated, but he's either a moron, or he's part of the propaganda machine.
 
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Artificially Intelli

Senior Member
DuckandCover said:
Well, the Uke military (granted, with some supplies from NATO) has pretty much fought Russia to a stalemate. Are you thinking NATO is weaker than the Uke military?--- of course it would take many more than 10,000 troops!
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We must be looking at different maps. I'm not seeing a stalemate. Once Bahkmut falls, and it will soon, the whole eastern front blows open for the Russians.
 
jward

jward

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lukashenko flew to Iran for a visit, – the Belarusian media report.

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Lukashenko going for Iran,he will hold meetings with Supreme Leader of Iran Ali Khamenei,they will discuss projects in the fields of industry, agriculture, transport and logistics

Special attention will be paid to the situation in the region and in the world as a whole,"
President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko has arrived on an official visit to Iran. Belarusian flight number one landed at Mehrabad International Airport
 
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