ECON Report food and grocery price increases/shortages here - UPDATE, new runs on the stores

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Doomer Doug

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It took a while but the downtown portland CITY TARGET, which is a scaled down version of a suburban target is now in FULL THIRD WORLD MODE. First, the selection now resembles what a Soviet grocery store would liik like in 1965. Next, target has now FULLY IMPLEMENTED RATIONING.
DAIRY IS 2 ONLY, EGGS, MILK, CHEESE EYC. BREAD IS FOUR ONLY AND ALL CANNED GOODS, BOXED MACATONI ETC IS 8 EACH OF ONE TYPE. DOOMER DOUG HAVING BOUGHT HIS STUFF IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY AND EARLY MARCH I DIDN'T CHECK TO SEE IF IT WAS 8 CANS OF PROGESSI LENTIL SOUP, LIKE I BOUGHT A MONTH AGO, OR 8 CANS OF PROGRESSO SOUP IN TOTAL
THE NEW NORMAL IS GOING TO BE THIRD WORLD CESSPOOL STYLE.
 

lonestar09

Veteran Member
Since the wife works at Walmart, she has learned that if she needs anything these days, (mostly topping off), to get them like the soviets did. Before the public is allowing in or at first break and stash it in the car.
When this first started, I was thinking the same exact thing and if need be would have gone everyday to get things if needed
 

anney

Veteran Member
We live in bedroom community outside Little Rock, AR. I chose not to got to Walmart as they have implemented the rules of only so many in at a time. They have the carts lined up with yellow tape marking lines for everyone to stand in at the Food Entrance door.

I went to our local Kroger store, was there at 7am when they opened. There were 4 other people waiting to go in.

The meat case was very sparse of any beef, I got the last 3 pound package of hamburger meat. Chicken, hams, turkeys, pork all plentiful.

The pasta aisle was extremely sparse, lots of spaghetti sauce available. Dry beans were picked through, same as the rice. Bread was picked over but still also available.

Baking aisle had plenty including sugar and flour.

Most dairy was fairly full including milk, butter and eggs.

Toilet paper aisle had toilet paper, you could tell that not all the toilet is put out as there were holes in different brands. I'm sure it was all gone in about an hour, along with the paper towels.

Cleaning supplies ok except for any wipes, bleach or oddly, dishwasher soap.

One thing I thought odd was no broth of any kind, chicken, beef or veg. Plenty of soups, canned goods. The fresh veg and fruits were full.

In the freezer section, certain items picked over but still fairly plentiful.

The store filled up pretty quickly within an hour, I had finished by 8am. They had put the plexi-glass shields in front of the cashiers. There were marks on the floors stating "Stand here" about 6 feet apart at the check outs. Most everyone had on masks or cloth covering their faces and lots of gloves.

Kroger normally has lots of sale items and good digital coupons. There was very little sale items listed this week and the prices definitely reflected that, quite high.
 
Review this article (it's a little long) about food distribution. I had seen a similar article and saved it, but then it was just gone.

Natural News
 

pauldingbabe

The Great Cat
It took a while but the downtown portland CITY TARGET, which is a scaled down version of a suburban target is now in FULL THIRD WORLD MODE. First, the selection now resembles what a Soviet grocery store would liik like in 1965. Next, target has now FULLY IMPLEMENTED RATIONING.
DAIRY IS 2 ONLY, EGGS, MILK, CHEESE EYC. BREAD IS FOUR ONLY AND ALL CANNED GOODS, BOXED MACATONI ETC IS 8 EACH OF ONE TYPE. DOOMER DOUG HAVING BOUGHT HIS STUFF IN JANUARY, FEBRUARY AND EARLY MARCH I DIDN'T CHECK TO SEE IF IT WAS 8 CANS OF PROGESSI LENTIL SOUP, LIKE I BOUGHT A MONTH AGO, OR 8 CANS OF PROGRESSO SOUP IN TOTAL
THE NEW NORMAL IS GOING TO BE THIRD WORLD CESSPOOL STYLE.

But this is happening everywhere I'm sorry I may be confused...
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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Well, I staged an early morning patrol to secure essential Martini and Bloody Mary supplies at 8:00 am today at our local mega-grocer, Woodman's, in a Metro Milwaukee suburb.

Sunday, 8:00 am. How bad could it possibly be?

Idled the car for 15 minutes waiting for a coveted handicapped parking spot to become available. Fine, I hadn't cranked up the Baronmobile in eight days, so at least the battery got charged. BTW - Yes, the Baronmobile is red. "Red Baron" used to be my CB radio "handle" back in the 70's because I always drove a red vehicle.

Anyway,

I deploy my surgical face mask, wash down the electric scooter with some sanitary wipes, and venture off to the vast liquor department. "The largest in Wisconsin."

I secure quantities of adult beverages and motor over to the checkout. Wow, nobody in line at the liquor checkout. I guess the winos are still sleeping it off. Good call on my part! I notice a new Plexiglas panel in front of the cash register. Fine, I wipe off my hands before and after using the keypad.

Since it doesn't look too crowded, I am really feeling my Wheaties and decide to venture into the mega-mart and secure a few frozen bags of loneliness, nasal spray, sanitizing wipes, mouthwash, the latest issues of Cuban Booty Party and College Cheerleader Life, etc. Typical old geezer stuff.

Feeling pretty good about myself for getting so much accomplished so early in the morning.

Then my little world came crashing down all around me.

Woodman's has always been absolutely notorious for not investing in enough employees. They have twenty regular checkout lanes along with ten or so self-checkout lanes. You are lucky if there are three cashiers working. Need help in the store? Go jump in the lake. The regular checkout lanes do -not- use conveyors. Instead the cashier has to manually reach into your cart, take out one or two items, scan it and repeat the process over and over and over and over again until the cart is finally empty. I know of no other grocery store that uses this system.

Things got worse. For the first time ever, a -single- line was created and you had to wait until a checkout lane was available. Apparently it was some ill conceived attempt at social distancing. Fine, but the single line extended all the way to the back of the store and -nobody- was exercising one iota of social distancing at all while in line.

Involuntarily, a hearty Foxtrot Oscar sprang from my lips as I jettisoned my non-liquors items (already paid for) into a nearby cooler and sped off to the parking lot.

I am done with that place. I'm going to resume ordering food online from Aldi's and other grocers.
 
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Snaglpuss

Contributing Member
Went to Menard's this A.M.
More than half the customers were wearing masks and or gloves.
About half the cashiers had on masks and gloves. They must have been self supplied since they were all different styles.
Picked up a load of potting mix that was on sale. I'm concerned they may limit sales to food / essential items only at some future time and then be SOL when I want to pot up stuff in the future.
They were closing out their cheaper seeds at 11 for $1. Picked up a bunch of radish and lettuce seeds.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
But this is happening everywhere I'm sorry I may be confused...
No he Doomer is right. The supply chain should have recovered by now and refilled the shelves despite the larger demand. They are not. Why? Are there too many sick to drive the trucks? Is there nothing to ship? Is nothing being produced to ship? I do not know the answer, but I can tell you that not much is shipping when compared to needs / wants. It is making things like a soviet grocery store in the 70s or early 80s.

The wife is still working in receiving as the current crew is sick or not coming to work. She is telling me that Walmart is not getting enough to meet their needs. Number of trucks is down. Walmart owns their own trucks.....So I am guessing they are out of product at some of the DCs as a minimum and can not get restocked.
 

Zahra

Veteran Member
Ventured to a local Boise Albertsons on Friday morning. Bread aisle, fresh produce, dairy, eggs, and meat dept. all well stocked, although I notice that that price per pound for chicken had gone up at least 25% from two weeks ago. Picked up some excellent top sirloin steaks @30% off to go in the freezer. No toilet paper or paper towels (empty shelves in that entire area). Got some Kerr quart jars on sale though.

Normal amount of traffic inside the store and people were keeping a respectable amount of space between each other. All in all I saw about 6 people (including myself) wearing masks, and I was the only person I noticed who also wore disposable exam gloves & surgical shoe covers.

The continued lack of paper goods at this stage of the game confuses me too. I'd have thought the manufacturers would have caught up with demand by now.
 

skwentnaflyer

Veteran Member
Went to Menard's this A.M.
More than half the customers were wearing masks and or gloves.
About half the cashiers had on masks and gloves. They must have been self supplied since they were all different styles.
Picked up a load of potting mix that was on sale. I'm concerned they may limit sales to food / essential items only at some future time and then be SOL when I want to pot up stuff in the future.
They were closing out their cheaper seeds at 11 for $1. Picked up a bunch of radish and lettuce seeds.


I was there last night. Saw a few folks with masks, fewer with gloves. None of the cashiers were wearing either.
I was concerned about "essential" sales also, so I wanted some tomato seedlings as insurance. We have our own started, but I feel better having extra. I doubt I'll have any trouble finding a home for extras at planting time.

Plenty of water, no canned soup. Didn't check the paper goods aisle. Needed some clear plastic and all the smaller rolls were cleared out, so I had to get a larger roll, which is probably a better idea anyway.
 

Zahra

Veteran Member
I was shopping online today for a regular mason jar sealing accessory to go with my Food Sealer, and sellers on Ebay are charging between $55.00 and $100.00! (For only ONE!)

It appears the masses are awakening to the thought that food shortages & depression might be in the near future!
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
When this first started, I was thinking the same exact thing and if need be would have gone everyday to get things if needed

This is what we did when we topped off with fresh... and made it a point to walk around like we were clueless so as to not attract attention like some of the village idiots were doing... they came in with their tactical lists and shopped like they were on an episode of Preppers or whatever that show is called on Netflix talking loudly back and forth to each other either on their phones or with walkie talkies. We took our time I noted where the holes were at and what others were "stocking up" on in their carts.

Lots of screaming because there was no TP, Flour, or Yeast. We went down the flour aisle and one woman commented that half of the idiots buying yeast wouldn't know what to do with it anyway, lol, and we both agreed, I'd say she's about 60ish.

Soviet style grocery lines is what I thought of when the TP scare came up and now all of the stores are doing just that... stand in a line six feet apart, here's your number come to the door when called. Food is rationed, they follow you in the store, you walk in one way and follow the arrows on the floor, forgot something? Too bad. Here's your receipt, have a nice day.

It's amazing how much life has changed in two short months.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
No he Doomer is right. The supply chain should have recovered by now and refilled the shelves despite the larger demand. They are not. Why? Are there too many sick to drive the trucks? Is there nothing to ship? Is nothing being produced to ship? I do not know the answer, but I can tell you that not much is shipping when compared to needs / wants. It is making things like a soviet grocery store in the 70s or early 80s.

The wife is still working in receiving as the current crew is sick or not coming to work. She is telling me that Walmart is not getting enough to meet their needs. Number of trucks is down. Walmart owns their own trucks.....So I am guessing they are out of product at some of the DCs as a minimum and can not get restocked.

I don't believe all those thousands of Chinese containers sitting on the docks could possibly have been offloaded yet, unless all the longshoremen are out sick, which I doubt. Someone's pulling a spooky here.
 

Cacheman

Ultra MAGA!
I was shopping online today for a regular mason jar sealing accessory to go with my Food Sealer, and sellers on Ebay are charging between $55.00 and $100.00! (For only ONE!)
My wife was looking for the same thing (didn't check Ebay) and everyone was sold out, however, this was last Oct/Nov so maybe they don't make it anymore?
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I don't believe all those thousands of Chinese containers sitting on the docks could possibly have been offloaded yet, unless all the longshoremen are out sick, which I doubt. Someone's pulling a spooky here.

It all comes down to how much money the commodities brokers are making... hence the reason milk, eggs, and pork are being dumped and soon cattle will follow suit. As per Market to Markets report (PBS online check it out) the brokers would sooner slaughter the animals and let their carcasses rot than sell it at THEIR loss. Screw the farmer, screw the average American who is going hungry... it's the Irish Famine Part Deux courtesy of a commodities broker who may not even be an american... many of them are in fact chinese! Now let that sink in for a minute!

Famine brought to you courtesy of the trade wars. Remember the majority of the chicken farms, feedlots, etc., are now owned by the chinese. They want to pay only 50 cents a pound live weight for pigs and not that much more for beef and I forget how much they want to pay per pound for live chickens, eggs, and milk... and it's not much.

Just like the English landowners and how they treated the Irish and the Scots to some extent, the chinese don't care about you or me, only their bottom line and possibly their people back home.
 
Went to Sam's in Winston-Salem, NC, off University Parkway several days ago and it looked to be 95% stocked. Paper goods, beans, rice, frozen and fresh, dairy, canned goods, etc. all there. This was shortly after opening. Store was somewhat crowded. Yesterday I went to the Wal-Mart near where I live in SWVA and at mid-afternoon it remained 85% stocked. Dairy was down some, soups, dried beans, rice, flour, yeast, TP, low or non-existent. Lots of masks being worn, not so many gloves.
 

nehimama

Has No Life - Lives on TB
My wife was looking for the same thing (didn't check Ebay) and everyone was sold out, however, this was last Oct/Nov so maybe they don't make it anymore?

I was able to buy a wide mouth sealing accessory a week or two ago. I've read several reviews that claim the regular mouth sealers are crap. Guess I'll stick with what I've got.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
It all comes down to how much money the commodities brokers are making... hence the reason milk, eggs, and pork are being dumped and soon cattle will follow suit. As per Market to Markets report (PBS online check it out) the brokers would sooner slaughter the animals and let their carcasses rot than sell it at THEIR loss. Screw the farmer, screw the average American who is going hungry... it's the Irish Famine Part Deux courtesy of a commodities broker who may not even be an american... many of them are in fact chinese! Now let that sink in for a minute!

Famine brought to you courtesy of the trade wars. Remember the majority of the chicken farms, feedlots, etc., are now owned by the chinese. They want to pay only 50 cents a pound live weight for pigs and not that much more for beef and I forget how much they want to pay per pound for live chickens, eggs, and milk... and it's not much.

Just like the English landowners and how they treated the Irish and the Scots to some extent, the chinese don't care about you or me, only their bottom line and possibly their people back home.

Hmm, I did not know all that. The chinese got their evil clutches in and won't let go.

:dvl2:
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Hmm, I did not know all that. The chinese got their evil clutches in and won't let go.

:dvl2:

And here in lies the problem even news hounds such as yourself do not know this important little fact. The only reason I knew about it was it was mentioned on Market to Market that the chinese owned Smithfield Foods and that they were buying more farmland here in Iowa and out guvnah was trying to put a stop to their buying up farmland and the demoncrats were fighting her attempts at stopping the chinese.
 

Terrwyn

Veteran Member
Online shopping is dead in the water. Pissed today because Thrive market which I paid a 60 buck membership fee to join ( stupidly I might add) is not taking any orders.
Did find some cat food for pickup only at Walmart and found 20lbs of potatoes shipped from Idaho. Everyone from Chewey to Vitacost out of anything that matters.
So thankful to TB for the heads up. I have a years supply of cat food for my kids.
Do any of you have ideas on where this is all going to end up? I have read hundreds of post apocalyptic books and the zombie apocalypse happened fast not like this. I cant wrap my head around where this is headed.
 

Kris Gandillon

The Other Curmudgeon
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We're good for several months but because of what we've been reading on this thread and recent experience trying to stay topped off (unsuccessfully), we try to order for delivery, TP, paper towels, etc. and have not been successful for almost 3 weeks now. We try Walmart, the local grocery stores, Target, etc. But so far, no success.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
Online shopping is dead in the water. Pissed today because Thrive market which I paid a 60 buck membership fee to join ( stupidly I might add) is not taking any orders.
Did find some cat food for pickup only at Walmart and found 20lbs of potatoes shipped from Idaho. Everyone from Chewey to Vitacost out of anything that matters.
So thankful to TB for the heads up. I have a years supply of cat food for my kids.
Do any of you have ideas on where this is all going to end up? I have read hundreds of post apocalyptic books and the zombie apocalypse happened fast not like this. I cant wrap my head around where this is headed.

Maybe they're herding us into the cattle chutes, although I hate to think it.

:dvl2:
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
We're good for several months but because of what we've been reading on this thread and recent experience trying to stay topped off (unsuccessfully), we try to order for delivery, TP, paper towels, etc. and have not been successful for almost 3 weeks now. We try Walmart, the local grocery stores, Target, etc. But so far, no success.

And oddly enough the stores here have very few holes, top ramen is neigh impossible to find, but if you know how to cook there's pasta to be had.
 

kittyluvr

Veteran Member
I posted this article in another thread. As costs are increasing all along the supply chain, our glorious governor has decreed no more than a 10% price increase under penalty of law. Venezuela here we come.

COVID-19 Pandemic Price Gouging Targeted By Newsom

By Tracey Petersen Published Apr 4, 2020 10:18 am


Sonora, CA – Governor Gavin Newsom is taking aim at sellers that spike prices on critical consumer goods and medical supplies.

On Friday, Newsom signed an executive order expanding consumer protection against price gouging as California continues to respond to the coronavirus outbreak.


“This crisis has impacted every Californian and our normal way of life, and we are ensuring that all consumers are able to purchase what they need, at a fair price,” said Governor Newsom.

The order generally prohibits sellers from hiking prices on items like food, hygiene goods, medical or emergency supplies by more than 10 percent. It also gives the state’s Justice Department and Attorney General’s office additional tools to take action against price gougers. The order runs through Sept. 4th.

Those convicted of this misdemeanor could face a $1,000 fine or up to six months in jail or both. The governor’s entire order that further outlines the crimes and law enforcement actions can be found here.




Written by Tracey Petersen.
 

Marseydoats

Veteran Member
Online shopping is dead in the water. Pissed today because Thrive market which I paid a 60 buck membership fee to join ( stupidly I might add) is not taking any orders.
Did find some cat food for pickup only at Walmart and found 20lbs of potatoes shipped from Idaho. Everyone from Chewey to Vitacost out of anything that matters.
So thankful to TB for the heads up. I have a years supply of cat food for my kids.
Do any of you have ideas on where this is all going to end up? I have read hundreds of post apocalyptic books and the zombie apocalypse happened fast not like this. I cant wrap my head around where this is headed.

I am already sick of all this, and like you, I wish I knew where things were going to end up. I think I will be able to buy fresh produce from a small local farm, but they can't supply everybody in the community, though they are dang sure trying. I can only do a limited amount in containers, which I have put in the big chicken coop. I only have a few hens and we moved them to a smaller coop. Dh can't sit outside all night to shoot raccoons and varmits.
I only have about 2 1/2 mos. of cat and dog food...
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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Online shopping is dead in the water. Pissed today because Thrive market which I paid a 60 buck membership fee to join ( stupidly I might add) is not taking any orders.
Did find some cat food for pickup only at Walmart and found 20lbs of potatoes shipped from Idaho. Everyone from Chewey to Vitacost out of anything that matters.
So thankful to TB for the heads up. I have a years supply of cat food for my kids.
Do any of you have ideas on where this is all going to end up? I have read hundreds of post apocalyptic books and the zombie apocalypse happened fast not like this. I cant wrap my head around where this is headed.

Saw this today re: Thrive,
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We are currently experiencing an unprecedented surge of member orders as concern grows about COVID-19. While we are doing everything we can to get orders out quickly, we are currently experiencing delays of 7-10 days.

From Nick Green, Co-founder & CEO: We are working around the clock to ship your orders as fast as possible, while also maintaining our commitments to carbon neutrality (no air shipments at 10x carbon impact) and fair practices for our amazing warehouse team, who have already been working overtime to handle surging order volume. I want to personally thank you for your patience if your order takes longer than usual to arrive. As always, we’ll communicate in real-time on any delays.

Read more details here.
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I just checked Aldi and they can deliver in about 24 hours (SE WI).

 

Nich1

Veteran Member
Question on Aldi delivery. Geographical limitations would prevent home delivery here, as Aldi is 20+ miles away. It appears that curbside pickup may be available. There is really no NEED for things at this moment but, would someone share the cost to use instacart to fill an order for pickup? You never know what is ahead. I may want to try it.
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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Question on Aldi delivery. Geographical limitations would prevent home delivery here, as Aldi is 20+ miles away. It appears that curbside pickup may be available. There is really no NEED for things at this moment but, would someone share the cost to use instacart to fill an order for pickup? You never know what is ahead. I may want to try it.

Good question. I have never used the pick-up option at Aldi. Have done home delivery about six times this year @ $3.99 plus a tip that you select. I'll specify a 15% tip.

So I logged in to Aldi to pursue their pick up service.

Bottom line - $1.99 for orders above $35.00 USD.

Interesting to note that there are about half as many locations that provide for pick up. Many more locations offer home delivery. Also their availability is way out to Friday and Saturday whereas I can get home delivery as soon as tomorrow.

Aldi stores have very few employees, which keeps the cost down. Maybe three or four employees at any one time. I suspect only a few stores have enough employees to sustain the pickup service. Home delivery uses Instacart which is a personal shopper/driver contractor relationship that does not require any Aldi employees to function.
 

zeker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
haven't been to town (pop10k) this yr until today

wore my gloves and mask

they had an info/greeter to tell me to wash my hands b4 he got me a cart

I was not allowed wear my gloves

no posted limit for folks in the store, but wait to be indoctrinated

you must follow the arrows on the floor and the little 'feetprints' in each asile so you don't go the wrong way

no kids allowed

most everything was still in stock with a few items limited purchase

no flour no yeast or sanitizer

lotsa TP

I did notice most of the can food was more expensive than when I was there last (nov)

lotsa meat at regular prices, not a lotta variety

the cashier went to great pains to inform of the cleaning she does to the debit machine etc

she had gloves on but no mask

I forgot to ask her if the 'no mask' was a company policy

very few shoppers and the town had very little traffic on the rds

home hardware/lumberyard was closed but a guy at the door went in and got what I needed

he said I could order online and curb pickup

cdn tire was closed except for auto repair (not sure what a US comparable store would be)

even the Mennonite feed store did not want folks in their office

I guess you tell them what you want and they bring to you??

the menfolk were working on the fenceline so I offered to get my own bags of feed

they had a sign announcing this new stuff, and at the btm of the sign it read

"this too shall pass"

altho the Mennonite lady has never been friendly to me she was sociable today

I hope they don't get taken too bad when folks run outta $ for feed
 
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WildDaisy

God has a plan, Trust it!
I have tried for a month to get TP and no go. I have plenty stored up for a while, but we're using it sparingly. I decided to make ourselves some cloth wipes for each bathroom and used a baby wipe dispenser with witch hazel and baby soap in it to make the wipes wet. Have a container in each bathroom. Wipe and put in the pail. I wash every day anyway, whats one more load.
 

questionable1

Contributing Member
I went on a beer run saturday. A local grocery store. I didnt check tp levels but every thing else was samo. A couple people with masks. No holes that i noticed.
The farm stores are all out of chicks. I lucked into a new delivery and picked up turkeys. I try to wait until the chicks have feathers before i buy pullets but they've been selling out.
The closest feed store started limiting people inside. There was a line saturday afternoon so i didnt bother.

Amazon has been delivering close to normal. When i ordered it said late april. One delivery is today, the other is wednesday.
 

NoMoreLibs

Kill Commie's, Every Single One Of Them!
Still seeing paper shortages but overall most I'll's are stocked pretty good. Oddity here I'm finding is that there are no hamburger buns, plenty of hot dog buns but for some reason there's a run on the burger bun's. Plenty of milk too.

WM was wiped out of cereal, or is it serial, but local store had all you could want.
 

Nich1

Veteran Member
Good question. I have never used the pick-up option at Aldi. Have done home delivery about six times this year @ $3.99 plus a tip that you select. I'll specify a 15% tip.

So I logged in to Aldi to pursue their pick up service.

Bottom line - $1.99 for orders above $35.00 USD.

Interesting to note that there are about half as many locations that provide for pick up. Many more locations offer home delivery. Also their availability is way out to Friday and Saturday whereas I can get home delivery as soon as tomorrow.

Aldi stores have very few employees, which keeps the cost down. Maybe three or four employees at any one time. I suspect only a few stores have enough employees to sustain the pickup service. Home delivery uses Instacart which is a personal shopper/driver contractor relationship that does not require any Aldi employees to function.
Thank you, Red Baron. Good info. I'll see what Aldi in this area is doing.
 

rlm

Contributing Member
For the folks looking for vacuum jar sealers, I've been very happy with my Pump n Seal manual jar vacuum sealer.
I've had one of these for many years and wouldn't hesitate to recommend it to anyone.
 
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