Tristan
Has No Life - Lives on TB
WOW....threw his arse right under the bus.
Wonder how long it will be until the FULL LIST of JOHNS is finally divulged....won't that be fun!?!?
Not necessarily fun, but necessary.
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INTL Queen Strips Prince Andrew of All Military Titles and Patronages
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Not necessarily fun, but necessary.
Normallguy
"just a human bein'"
Son.... You're on your own.
BadMedicine
Would *I* Lie???
Who'd be upset if some REAL palace intrigue broke out?
Naaaaaah me! So what do you think? Does andy have some ARs or what? grenades? I mean, he's DEF getting suicided, POSSIBLY even by his own hand... so is this going to be Nepal 2001-2.0 or is he really a kiddo diddler cornball? C'mon andy, avenge the colonies you prepubescent ass-clown!
Naaaaaah me! So what do you think? Does andy have some ARs or what? grenades? I mean, he's DEF getting suicided, POSSIBLY even by his own hand... so is this going to be Nepal 2001-2.0 or is he really a kiddo diddler cornball? C'mon andy, avenge the colonies you prepubescent ass-clown!
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
he has a pilots license, plane accidents can be arranged to look like an accident.
Josie
Has No Life - Lives on TB
IMHO, one of two things will happen next. Either Andy will sing (and name names) to save his butt or since he's on his own now and has to fund his own defense, donors to his legal fund will come out of the woodwork in exchange for his silence in regards their names. I guess the Queen could slip him some pounds under the table but since I've read that one of his houses is up for sale, I figured h was selling to pay the barrister/attorney.
Bridey Rose
Veteran Member
I am hoping my former boss won't be on the list. I sensed that Bill was a bad influence on him, but I had no idea how bad until this mess reared its ugly head!
WOW....threw his arse right under the bus.
I even wrote a glowing bio highlighting what a great family man my boss was only to find out now he'd been molesting 15-year-old girls supplied by Epstein. Talk about "assume" making an ass out of "u" and "me"!
If I'm disappointed, I can only imagine how his wife feels.
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Melodi
Disaster Cat
I just thought of another reason why this is happening right now when it has been pretty obvious it was going to happen for the last few months.
Europe and the UK may be about to find themselves in a Big War, I hope not, but the signs are not looking good.
In Wartime the "honorary" military posts held by members of the Royal Family become extremely important in terms of raising troop morale, keeping the public upbeat, and helping to maintain a spirit of public fortitude.
Andy is a total jerk, but he is also a real Falkland's War Hero, one of the few members of the royal family since WWII to have served in direct combat (I think Harry had some as well, but I'm a bit confused on that one).
If the Queen didn't strip him of his military titles now, and war broke out this weekend (or soon); The Firm could find itself between a rock and a hard place with Andrew being the one who should be officially in Uniform giving speeches, inspiring the troops, breaking bottles on ships (in place of his Mom) and been seen looking all "military-like" in important defense briefings.
She absolutely had, under all circumstances, made sure this would happen.
In reality, of the two of them, if he were willing to leave Meghan for a few months, she'd be better off putting Harry in that role (if he would take it which he almost certainly won't). That's because while Harry married someone that was really unsuitable (as it turned out) and has formally "left" the family, he hasn't done anything nearly as disastrous as being involved in sex scandals with minors.
But he did have real military experience (Harry) and William has flown rescue helicopters professionally over the Irish sea, before he was asked to step down from that position and take on more royal duties.
Europe and the UK may be about to find themselves in a Big War, I hope not, but the signs are not looking good.
In Wartime the "honorary" military posts held by members of the Royal Family become extremely important in terms of raising troop morale, keeping the public upbeat, and helping to maintain a spirit of public fortitude.
Andy is a total jerk, but he is also a real Falkland's War Hero, one of the few members of the royal family since WWII to have served in direct combat (I think Harry had some as well, but I'm a bit confused on that one).
If the Queen didn't strip him of his military titles now, and war broke out this weekend (or soon); The Firm could find itself between a rock and a hard place with Andrew being the one who should be officially in Uniform giving speeches, inspiring the troops, breaking bottles on ships (in place of his Mom) and been seen looking all "military-like" in important defense briefings.
She absolutely had, under all circumstances, made sure this would happen.
In reality, of the two of them, if he were willing to leave Meghan for a few months, she'd be better off putting Harry in that role (if he would take it which he almost certainly won't). That's because while Harry married someone that was really unsuitable (as it turned out) and has formally "left" the family, he hasn't done anything nearly as disastrous as being involved in sex scandals with minors.
But he did have real military experience (Harry) and William has flown rescue helicopters professionally over the Irish sea, before he was asked to step down from that position and take on more royal duties.
ShadowMan
Designated Grumpy Old Fart
The crown has done a lot worse.....going back in history. That would be one way to end this mess with some finality. Can't convict the dead. Hmmmmmm. Wouldn't be the first time. He can't hang himself, that's already been done.
Hfcomms
EN66iq
Rings of blazing saddles and the parson.
SpokaneMan
Veteran Member
How embarrassing! This just may end up being worse than his upcoming trial in USA.
Blessings upon those in uniform who hold dear the code, “Duty, Honor, and Country.” It matters not what country, as long as it is moral and values the lives of all Mankind. I’m greatly heartened with this, and hope Randy Andy, the playboy rapist, gets what he deserves- imprisonment unto death.
OA
tiredude
Veteran Member
'out of my way....ni...."..............
Brit royalty played the same roll as Hollywood used to do here. Hollywood is gone, nobody cares. I give the House of Windsor one more generation.
His Street Name was Randy Andy.
Griz3752
Retired, practising Curmudgeon
Maybe two but I think the party is over. There is quite a bit of traction for Canada & possibly ANZAC to leave the Commonwealth when E.II passes.
If the UK wants to maintain a monarchy after she passes,, I think the facade may hang on for a while but, it's not a cheap proposition for the UK PUBLIC Purse to support a Monarchy.
It may come down to just that ....we'll see .....
Griz3752
Retired, practising Curmudgeon
Quite possibly an accurate guesstimate; we'll possibly never know until someone writes a book or if/when the full /ial transcripts are released. I doubt his 'honourary' captaincy won't come up in a Civil suit so, it's going to be the book.....
The current case is in the US. She can't be compelled to testify.
artichoke
Greetings from near tropical NYC!
It sounds like he's still the Duke of York, a member of nobility (which is different from royalty -- those were the two opposing sides in the Magna Carta). He could have sat in the House of Lords back before they made a bunch of them "retire", maybe he still can because he's a Duke which is >> than a Lord. As a Duke he probably still gets to live in his big castle or estate in his dukedom. But he may have to start renting out bedrooms to pay for the upkeep.
He's no longer referred to as Prince, a royal title. Combined with saying he would be defending the legal case as a private citizen, I guess it means he's no longer a prince.
The evidence must be pretty strong. I doubt they'd do this to him if they thought the accusations might be false.
A Royal Patronage is just an association that another organization can have with the Royal Family. Those that Andrew used to visit will now be visited by someone else. This would be necessary if he's no longer a prince. What is Royal Patronage? Meaning behind the status explained
He's no longer referred to as Prince, a royal title. Combined with saying he would be defending the legal case as a private citizen, I guess it means he's no longer a prince.
The evidence must be pretty strong. I doubt they'd do this to him if they thought the accusations might be false.
A Royal Patronage is just an association that another organization can have with the Royal Family. Those that Andrew used to visit will now be visited by someone else. This would be necessary if he's no longer a prince. What is Royal Patronage? Meaning behind the status explained
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Bumblepuff
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Melodi
Disaster Cat
Really good observations, I came to the thread to post that I misunderstood slightly what was going on - Andrew had agreed not to USE his title HRH (His Royal Highness) and probably Duke of York (I'm not sure on that one) but he hadn't been "stripped" of the title yet.
But there are stories today all over the UK press about many people there calling for him to be "stripped of his titles" the way that Diana was. Which would formally change his legal positions, rank, and status. He's would still probably be at least "Lord Andrew" and maybe "Duke" if that wasn't taken away.
But he would no longer be His Royal Highness legally, not just agreeing to forgo using it or being addressed as such in public.
Oh as for the costs of the monarchy:
This could change in the future, but so far every decade or so when the economics have been examined, it always turns out that the UK (especially England) would lose so much more
from tourism than they would gain from not paying for a royal family, that usually the issue drops off the radar.
I think the other thing that has helped maintain the monarchy is Elizabeth's personality and her constant battles to be frugal within the limits placed on her by her position. Kate is continuing that tradition, being able to do things A Queen was simply not allowed to do 50 years ago - like gain high praise for continuing to use and revamp ten-year-old outfits or having real family vacations with the kids.
Someday, tourists may fail to find everything so interesting and the UK public might tire of their royal soap opera; I suspect that either they will fade into history or they will become more real figureheads like the royalty in Scandinavia. There, the royal family all study something or have careers (the Queen of Denmark is an archeologist and children's book illustration), the King of Sweden used to ride his bike to the street market every morning to buy flowers when we lived there.
They have titles, some privileges, and are expected to provide limited pageantry in good times, or hope in the face of a national crisis. We arrived in Sweden, three days after the Estonia Disaster in time to see the King address the nation, the way The President would in the United States.
The British Royals on the other have, until now, been discouraged from having any sort of real career (except military). I've always thought Charles would be a happier person and probably make a better King if he had been allowed to study architecture instead of just having to be a "Patron" of various related causes.
Melodi
Disaster Cat
From today's UK Daily Mail and now I am even more confused - I really don't know exactly what Andrew's situation is at this point, very confusing...[snipped from a very long and photo-heavy article]
www.dailymail.co.uk
Will taxpayers STILL have to pay for 'private citizen' Andrew's security? Minister REFUSES to say whether Duke of York will get police protection on the public purse as he faces £6m legal bill to clear his name over Virginia Roberts' sex allegations
Queen has stripped the duke of his military titles, patronages and HRH titles, casting him from Royal Family
Will face legal case as 'private citizen', raising questions about whether taxpayer-funded security could be cut
Despite his luxurious lifestyle Andrew is not cash rich, and recently sold his ski chalet to pay for his legal costs
By RORY TINGLE, HOME AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT FOR MAILONLINE and REBECCA ENGLISH, ROYAL EDITOR FOR THE DAILY MAIL
PUBLISHED: 11:29, 14 January 2022 | UPDATED: 12:51, 14 January 2022
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A Government minister today refused to say whether Prince Andrew would continue to get taxpayer-funded police protection as he faces a £6million legal bill to clear his name.
The Queen stripped the duke of his military titles, patronages and HRH titles yesterday and said he would have to face the US sex abuse case as a 'private citizen'.
Sources said the 'ruthless and swift' decision had been 'widely discussed' at the palace following Andrew's failed bid to persuade a judge to dismiss the civil lawsuit in which he is accused of having sex with a trafficking victim.
With cash-strapped Andrew being effectively cast out of the Royal Family, security minister Damian Hinds would not be drawn on whether taxpayers would still foot the bill to protect him.
Speaking on LBC, Mr Hinds said: 'Our security forces, the police and others, do what they judge is necessary to protect our country, to protect people in it.'
He said it is a 'long-standing - and I think correct - principle that we don't talk about who and how in particular'.
When pushed, he said: 'I know this is going to come across to you possibly, and possibly to some listeners, like me obfuscating and avoiding the question, and I suppose maybe even in some ways it is avoiding the question, but only because it is right to say that the police and our wider security forces do what is right and proportionate to protect the people of this country.
'And we don't publicise exactly what that covers.'
Will we STILL have to pay for 'private citizen' Andrew's security?
The Queen stripped the duke of his military titles, patronages and HRH titles yesterday and said he would have to face the US sex abuse case as a 'private citizen'.
Will taxpayers STILL have to pay for 'private citizen' Andrew's security? Minister REFUSES to say whether Duke of York will get police protection on the public purse as he faces £6m legal bill to clear his name over Virginia Roberts' sex allegations
Queen has stripped the duke of his military titles, patronages and HRH titles, casting him from Royal Family
Will face legal case as 'private citizen', raising questions about whether taxpayer-funded security could be cut
Despite his luxurious lifestyle Andrew is not cash rich, and recently sold his ski chalet to pay for his legal costs
By RORY TINGLE, HOME AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT FOR MAILONLINE and REBECCA ENGLISH, ROYAL EDITOR FOR THE DAILY MAIL
PUBLISHED: 11:29, 14 January 2022 | UPDATED: 12:51, 14 January 2022
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A Government minister today refused to say whether Prince Andrew would continue to get taxpayer-funded police protection as he faces a £6million legal bill to clear his name.
The Queen stripped the duke of his military titles, patronages and HRH titles yesterday and said he would have to face the US sex abuse case as a 'private citizen'.
Sources said the 'ruthless and swift' decision had been 'widely discussed' at the palace following Andrew's failed bid to persuade a judge to dismiss the civil lawsuit in which he is accused of having sex with a trafficking victim.
With cash-strapped Andrew being effectively cast out of the Royal Family, security minister Damian Hinds would not be drawn on whether taxpayers would still foot the bill to protect him.
Speaking on LBC, Mr Hinds said: 'Our security forces, the police and others, do what they judge is necessary to protect our country, to protect people in it.'
He said it is a 'long-standing - and I think correct - principle that we don't talk about who and how in particular'.
When pushed, he said: 'I know this is going to come across to you possibly, and possibly to some listeners, like me obfuscating and avoiding the question, and I suppose maybe even in some ways it is avoiding the question, but only because it is right to say that the police and our wider security forces do what is right and proportionate to protect the people of this country.
'And we don't publicise exactly what that covers.'
Melodi
Disaster Cat
snipped from another long UK Daily Mail article - if anyone is really interested in this stuff, there is more than you ever wanted to know in today's edition on this topic. Best read at the link...
www.dailymail.co.uk
Prince Charles and William demanded Andrew's exile: Shamed Duke of York was stripped of titles at crisis summit with Queen in attempt to 'ensure the survival of the Royal Family at all costs' as he faces sex assault lawsuit
Palace sources said the 'ruthless and swift' decision had been 'widely discussed' within the Royal Family
Duke of York will be banned from using the styling 'HRH' in an official capacity, according to royal source
News is a further blow for Andrew as he considers whether to press ahead with trial or settle with accuser
Experts say the duke must do a deal 'for the sake of the Queen', who is entering her Platinum Jubilee year
He was spotted today in the back of a Range Rover while being driven from his home in Windsor Great Park
By REBECCA ENGLISH ROYAL EDITOR FOR THE DAILY MAIL and JACK NEWMAN and RORY TINGLE, HOME AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT and MARTIN ROBINSON, CHIEF REPORTER FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 22:34, 13 January 2022 | UPDATED: 01:54, 14 January 2022
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The Queen last night cast Prince Andrew out of the Royal Family, stripping him of all his military titles and patronages.
In a brutal two-line statement Buckingham Palace also forced him to drop his HRH title and dashed his hopes of resuming public duties.
It said the ninth in line to the throne would be defending his United States sex abuse case 'as a private citizen'.
Palace sources said the 'ruthless and swift' decision had been 'widely discussed' within the Royal Family following Andrew's failed bid to persuade a judge to dismiss the civil lawsuit in which he is accused of having sex with a trafficking victim.
Prince Charles and his son William are understood to have been 'instrumental' in the move to force him out before the Queen made up her mind on Wednesday, straight after the court verdict.
'This is about the survival of the institution at all costs. Always has been and always will be,' a senior palace source said. In its statement the palace declared: 'With the Queen's approval and agreement, the Duke of York's military affiliations and royal patronages have been returned to the Queen.
'The Duke of York will continue not to undertake any public duties and is defending this case as a private citizen.'
Andrew was yesterday summoned for a 90-minute meeting with his mother at Windsor Castle – and was accompanied by his personal lawyer, Gary Bloxsome, who drove with him from his nearby home, Royal Lodge.
But Mr Bloxsome, who was employed by the prince to orchestrate his fight back against Virginia Roberts' allegations of rape and sexual assault, was unable to enter the royal residence and was left sitting in the car, castle insiders revealed.
The Queen last night cast Prince Andrew out of the Royal Family, stripping him of all his military titles and patronages
In a brutal two-line statement Buckingham Palace also forced him to drop his HRH title and dashed his hopes of resuming public duties +46
Buckingham Palace said in a statement this afternoon, which read: 'With The Queen's approval and agreement, The Duke of York's military affiliations and Royal patronages have been returned to The Queen'
The duke now faces a jury trial in the autumn over Miss Roberts' claims, which he has consistently denied. It is believed that discussions among family members have been going on for several weeks as Andrew's attempts to derail the case were repeatedly shot down. Prince Charles has spoken to his mother by phone from Scotland, where he is in residence, following the judgment against his brother in a New York court.
Prince William was at Windsor Castle on Wednesday to conduct an investiture on behalf of his grandmother and would have spoken to her personally as well.
A well-placed palace source said the Queen and her advisers had decided to follow 'the same model' of effective banishment with Andrew as she had with the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.
'They have taken this decision to insulate the institution from being hit by all the shrapnel that is flying around,' they added.
'It follows the same model as the Sussex separation. The removal of titles and patronages means the institution can now legitimately say it is not involved.
'It was a ruthless and swift decision which will have been recommended by the Prince of Wales and the Duke of Cambridge and sanctioned by the Queen.'
Other sources said the decision would have 'pained' the Queen enormously, given Andrew's position as her so-called favourite son.
But just as with Harry and Meghan, the 95-year-old monarch would have known she needed to act for the sake of the monarchy and her legacy.
'She has the ability, when push comes to shove, to know what is best for the institution and will act in her role as head of state, not a mother,' said another source who knows her well. 'She loves Andrew and this doesn't mean he is no longer her son. But a decision had to be made as it was overshadowing everything the family did and her forthcoming platinum jubilee. Everyone will be feeling very relieved he has finally been cut adrift. It may even help him to have more clarity in fighting the case.'
The beleaguered prince, 61, was last night keen to make clear that his battle to clear his name and restore his reputation was not over. A source close to the duke said his legal team were 'unsurprised' by the judge's decision not to throw the sex case out given last week's bruising hearing in New York, during which he was openly dismissive of their argument to dismiss the suit.
They added: 'This is a marathon not a sprint and the duke will continue to defend himself against these claims.'
Another source said they would continue to pursue every legal avenue before the claims got to trial, saying: 'We are still at very early stages of this case.' Miss Roberts, 38, who now uses her married name Giuffre, claims she was forced to sleep with the prince three times in 2001, when she was 17. She says she was trafficked and 'lent out' by his friends, the convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein and his then girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell, convicted last month of procuring underage girls for Esptein to abuse.
Breaking her silence after the judge's verdict, she wrote on Twitter early on Friday morning: 'I’m pleased with Judge Kaplan’s ruling yesterday that allows my case against Prince Andrew to go forward. I’m glad I will have the chance to continue to expose the truth & I am deeply grateful to my extraordinary legal team.
'Their determination helps me seek justice from those who hurt me and so many others. My goal has always been to show that the rich and powerful are not above the law & must be held accountable.
'I do not walk this path alone, but alongside countless other survivors of sexual abuse & trafficking.'
Following his disastrous Newsnight interview in 2019, Andrew was forced by the Queen, Charles and William to step down from official duties. But he was allowed to keep a dozen military affiliations, including Colonel of the Grenadier Guards – a position inherited from his father the Duke of Edinburgh – and dozens of charitable patronages went into 'abeyance' while he worked to clear his name. Many of those organisations chose to desert him anyway, but some, mostly in the military, had no choice but to keep the prince in position because it was only in the Queen's gift, as head of the Armed Forces, to take them away.
There was a sense of widespread relief last night that the decision had finally been taken for them. A royal source said the military posts would be 'redistributed' to other members of the Royal Family. But as a former Royal Navy officer who served with distinction in the Falklands, Andrew will be allowed to retain his military rank of vice admiral.
The Mail has also been told that Andrew will, for now, remain a member of the Order of the Garter, the most prestigious order of chivalry, which is also in the gift of the Queen. However it is unlikely that the prince will take part in the annual procession at Windsor Castle in June.
Like Harry and Meghan before him, Andrew will no longer be able to use the style 'His Royal Highness' in any official capacity, although he has not officially been stripped of it.
But the humiliation of the move will be lost on no one. It is not clear how he intends to style himself but he most likely will simply be called the Duke of York.
It is not clear yet whether Andrew will lose his round-the-clock Scotland Yard bodyguards, which he had retained despite stepping back from official duties. Harry and Meghan were forced to relinquish theirs, but that was as much because they had chosen to move abroad.
Andrew's daughters Beatrice and Eugenie had their bodyguards taken away from them when they decided not to take on royal duties.
Prince Charles and William demanded Andrew's exile from Royal Family
Palace sources said the 'ruthless and swift' decision had been 'widely discussed' within the Royal Family following Andrew's failed bid to persuade a judge to dismiss the civil lawsuit.
Palace sources said the 'ruthless and swift' decision had been 'widely discussed' within the Royal Family
Duke of York will be banned from using the styling 'HRH' in an official capacity, according to royal source
News is a further blow for Andrew as he considers whether to press ahead with trial or settle with accuser
Experts say the duke must do a deal 'for the sake of the Queen', who is entering her Platinum Jubilee year
He was spotted today in the back of a Range Rover while being driven from his home in Windsor Great Park
By REBECCA ENGLISH ROYAL EDITOR FOR THE DAILY MAIL and JACK NEWMAN and RORY TINGLE, HOME AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT and MARTIN ROBINSON, CHIEF REPORTER FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 22:34, 13 January 2022 | UPDATED: 01:54, 14 January 2022
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The Queen last night cast Prince Andrew out of the Royal Family, stripping him of all his military titles and patronages.
In a brutal two-line statement Buckingham Palace also forced him to drop his HRH title and dashed his hopes of resuming public duties.
It said the ninth in line to the throne would be defending his United States sex abuse case 'as a private citizen'.
Palace sources said the 'ruthless and swift' decision had been 'widely discussed' within the Royal Family following Andrew's failed bid to persuade a judge to dismiss the civil lawsuit in which he is accused of having sex with a trafficking victim.
Prince Charles and his son William are understood to have been 'instrumental' in the move to force him out before the Queen made up her mind on Wednesday, straight after the court verdict.
'This is about the survival of the institution at all costs. Always has been and always will be,' a senior palace source said. In its statement the palace declared: 'With the Queen's approval and agreement, the Duke of York's military affiliations and royal patronages have been returned to the Queen.
'The Duke of York will continue not to undertake any public duties and is defending this case as a private citizen.'
Andrew was yesterday summoned for a 90-minute meeting with his mother at Windsor Castle – and was accompanied by his personal lawyer, Gary Bloxsome, who drove with him from his nearby home, Royal Lodge.
But Mr Bloxsome, who was employed by the prince to orchestrate his fight back against Virginia Roberts' allegations of rape and sexual assault, was unable to enter the royal residence and was left sitting in the car, castle insiders revealed.
The Queen last night cast Prince Andrew out of the Royal Family, stripping him of all his military titles and patronages
In a brutal two-line statement Buckingham Palace also forced him to drop his HRH title and dashed his hopes of resuming public duties +46
Buckingham Palace said in a statement this afternoon, which read: 'With The Queen's approval and agreement, The Duke of York's military affiliations and Royal patronages have been returned to The Queen'
The duke now faces a jury trial in the autumn over Miss Roberts' claims, which he has consistently denied. It is believed that discussions among family members have been going on for several weeks as Andrew's attempts to derail the case were repeatedly shot down. Prince Charles has spoken to his mother by phone from Scotland, where he is in residence, following the judgment against his brother in a New York court.
Prince William was at Windsor Castle on Wednesday to conduct an investiture on behalf of his grandmother and would have spoken to her personally as well.
A well-placed palace source said the Queen and her advisers had decided to follow 'the same model' of effective banishment with Andrew as she had with the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.
'They have taken this decision to insulate the institution from being hit by all the shrapnel that is flying around,' they added.
'It follows the same model as the Sussex separation. The removal of titles and patronages means the institution can now legitimately say it is not involved.
'It was a ruthless and swift decision which will have been recommended by the Prince of Wales and the Duke of Cambridge and sanctioned by the Queen.'
Other sources said the decision would have 'pained' the Queen enormously, given Andrew's position as her so-called favourite son.
But just as with Harry and Meghan, the 95-year-old monarch would have known she needed to act for the sake of the monarchy and her legacy.
'She has the ability, when push comes to shove, to know what is best for the institution and will act in her role as head of state, not a mother,' said another source who knows her well. 'She loves Andrew and this doesn't mean he is no longer her son. But a decision had to be made as it was overshadowing everything the family did and her forthcoming platinum jubilee. Everyone will be feeling very relieved he has finally been cut adrift. It may even help him to have more clarity in fighting the case.'
The beleaguered prince, 61, was last night keen to make clear that his battle to clear his name and restore his reputation was not over. A source close to the duke said his legal team were 'unsurprised' by the judge's decision not to throw the sex case out given last week's bruising hearing in New York, during which he was openly dismissive of their argument to dismiss the suit.
They added: 'This is a marathon not a sprint and the duke will continue to defend himself against these claims.'
Another source said they would continue to pursue every legal avenue before the claims got to trial, saying: 'We are still at very early stages of this case.' Miss Roberts, 38, who now uses her married name Giuffre, claims she was forced to sleep with the prince three times in 2001, when she was 17. She says she was trafficked and 'lent out' by his friends, the convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein and his then girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell, convicted last month of procuring underage girls for Esptein to abuse.
Breaking her silence after the judge's verdict, she wrote on Twitter early on Friday morning: 'I’m pleased with Judge Kaplan’s ruling yesterday that allows my case against Prince Andrew to go forward. I’m glad I will have the chance to continue to expose the truth & I am deeply grateful to my extraordinary legal team.
'Their determination helps me seek justice from those who hurt me and so many others. My goal has always been to show that the rich and powerful are not above the law & must be held accountable.
'I do not walk this path alone, but alongside countless other survivors of sexual abuse & trafficking.'
Following his disastrous Newsnight interview in 2019, Andrew was forced by the Queen, Charles and William to step down from official duties. But he was allowed to keep a dozen military affiliations, including Colonel of the Grenadier Guards – a position inherited from his father the Duke of Edinburgh – and dozens of charitable patronages went into 'abeyance' while he worked to clear his name. Many of those organisations chose to desert him anyway, but some, mostly in the military, had no choice but to keep the prince in position because it was only in the Queen's gift, as head of the Armed Forces, to take them away.
There was a sense of widespread relief last night that the decision had finally been taken for them. A royal source said the military posts would be 'redistributed' to other members of the Royal Family. But as a former Royal Navy officer who served with distinction in the Falklands, Andrew will be allowed to retain his military rank of vice admiral.
The Mail has also been told that Andrew will, for now, remain a member of the Order of the Garter, the most prestigious order of chivalry, which is also in the gift of the Queen. However it is unlikely that the prince will take part in the annual procession at Windsor Castle in June.
Like Harry and Meghan before him, Andrew will no longer be able to use the style 'His Royal Highness' in any official capacity, although he has not officially been stripped of it.
But the humiliation of the move will be lost on no one. It is not clear how he intends to style himself but he most likely will simply be called the Duke of York.
It is not clear yet whether Andrew will lose his round-the-clock Scotland Yard bodyguards, which he had retained despite stepping back from official duties. Harry and Meghan were forced to relinquish theirs, but that was as much because they had chosen to move abroad.
Andrew's daughters Beatrice and Eugenie had their bodyguards taken away from them when they decided not to take on royal duties.
Prince Andrew suspected of ‘intimate relationship’ with Ghislaine Maxwell
Paul Page, who served as a Royal protection officer for Prince Andrew, claims the British socialite regularly visited the Duke of York
Prince Andrew, Duke of York, is driven from Crathie Kirk Church. © Duncan McGlynn / Getty Images)
In an ITV documentary scheduled to air Tuesday, Paul Page, who protected the Duke of York from 1998 to 2004, alleges that Maxwell was so close to Prince Andrew that she was allowed to enter and exit Buckingham Palace at will.
While working in the Royalty and Specialist Protection Command unit, former officer Page stated that a colleague of his “remembered her coming in four times in one day,” as she regularly visited the prince when he was living at the palace.
Maxwell visited Buckingham Palace in 2001, according to Page, the same year that Jeffrey Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre alleges Prince Andrew had sex with her at the British socialite’s London townhouse.
“I first met Ghislaine Maxwell in 2001. From the way she was allowed to enter and exit the palace at will, we realised and suspected that she may have had an intimate relationship with Prince Andrew,” Page told the documentary.
Page’s claim was supported by Euan Rellie, a banker who befriended Maxwell during their university years. Speaking to ITV, Rellie reportedly claimed that he “got the sense that Prince Andrew and Ghislaine had probably been girlfriend and boyfriend in the past” due to their “easy warmth around each other.”
In 2009, Paul Page was found guilty of a £3 million property investment scam.
His comments will be broadcast after a US court ruled that the civil sex abuse lawsuit against Prince Andrew can proceed, leaving the senior royal potentially facing either having to settle or testify.
In the wake of the court’s ruling, Buckingham Palace announced that the Duke of York has returned his military affiliations and Royal patronages to the Queen and will cease using the title ‘His Royal Highness’.
Prince Andrew declined to comment on the allegations made in the documentary, according to ITV.
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Paul Page, who served as a Royal protection officer for Prince Andrew, claims the British socialite regularly visited the Duke of York
Prince Andrew, Duke of York, is driven from Crathie Kirk Church. © Duncan McGlynn / Getty Images)
In an ITV documentary scheduled to air Tuesday, Paul Page, who protected the Duke of York from 1998 to 2004, alleges that Maxwell was so close to Prince Andrew that she was allowed to enter and exit Buckingham Palace at will.
While working in the Royalty and Specialist Protection Command unit, former officer Page stated that a colleague of his “remembered her coming in four times in one day,” as she regularly visited the prince when he was living at the palace.
Maxwell visited Buckingham Palace in 2001, according to Page, the same year that Jeffrey Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre alleges Prince Andrew had sex with her at the British socialite’s London townhouse.
“I first met Ghislaine Maxwell in 2001. From the way she was allowed to enter and exit the palace at will, we realised and suspected that she may have had an intimate relationship with Prince Andrew,” Page told the documentary.
Page’s claim was supported by Euan Rellie, a banker who befriended Maxwell during their university years. Speaking to ITV, Rellie reportedly claimed that he “got the sense that Prince Andrew and Ghislaine had probably been girlfriend and boyfriend in the past” due to their “easy warmth around each other.”
In 2009, Paul Page was found guilty of a £3 million property investment scam.
His comments will be broadcast after a US court ruled that the civil sex abuse lawsuit against Prince Andrew can proceed, leaving the senior royal potentially facing either having to settle or testify.
In the wake of the court’s ruling, Buckingham Palace announced that the Duke of York has returned his military affiliations and Royal patronages to the Queen and will cease using the title ‘His Royal Highness’.
Prince Andrew declined to comment on the allegations made in the documentary, according to ITV.
Prince Andrew suspected of ‘intimate relationship’ with Ghislaine Maxwell
In an ITV documentary scheduled to air Tuesday, Paul Page, who protected the Duke of York from 1998 to 2004, alleges that Maxwell was so close to Prince Andrew that she was allowed to enter and exit Buckingham Palace at will.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Walrus Whisperer
Hope in chains...
Jeez, one would think that all the male royals do is hit on various assorted females.
Idle hands are the Devil's workshop! Having pretty much unlimited funds and everything you ever wanted, without having to work s 9-5 job to earn it tends to corrupt quite thoroughly.
Summerthyme