We have a real, honest-to-God flat-earther in our membership as well. There are all kinds of twisted minds in a society. This place is just a microcosm of that.
It's not. Having said that, hospitals often say to staff "get the flu shot or don't work here". Biden is going to eventually require vax passports. It's coming. This is a massive privacy concern.Oh yeah. We were on a team Zoom call when my boss asked us to raise our hand if we've been fully vaccinated, and then raise our hands if we haven't yet received any shot. I honestly felt that was totally none of anyone's business.
Packy, that didn't happen to be the fall of 1998, did it?I survived a mystery flu/bug that made its way through the local university here back in 1998, IIRC, some 15,000 students got it and were sick for a good week and a half, and I'm talking bed ridden sick. It really didn't make it beyond the town here which was odd in and of itself. I was living in campus housing (small apartment) and cooking my own food so it wasn't because of dorm food.
And I was sick for 10+ weeks in the summer of 2019. As we discussed, I think COVID or SARS crap was around then, brought in by the Chinese exchange students. If it was around, I'm sure I was exposed. I still haven't had the opportunity for an affordable antibody test, but I'll bet I've had it.Yes, I think it was fall semester that I was so sick.
Get them on a commercial flight and take them up to 40K feet and have them look out the window at the curvature of the earth and 'splain that Lucy!'We have a real, honest-to-God flat-earther in our membership as well. There are all kinds of twisted minds in a society. This place is just a microcosm of that.
No, immediately after the first shot. A couple of nurses had to go home within 15 minutes of the shot. One nurse who had already had COVID and took the shot said she felt like she had COVID again only worse. And she had a hard time when she had it the first time.From what I’ve read, that’s after shot #2.
Millions or billions of viruses around for millions or billions of years and we're not extinct.Something silly: over 100 years of empirical data. But you’re the one who doesn’t believe that viruses make people sick. A total flat-earthier in that regard.
I believe viruses exist but not sure it's been proven they cause disease.'m not sure he even believes they exist. He keeps saying the CDC doesn't even have samples of sars-cov-2. Honestly, I'd like to think that no one is that stupid and that he just likes arguing. But.............
No ISOLATED virus.Did you REALLY REALLY MISS all of the Dr Niman sequencing done in Dec 2019 and Jan 2020, as posted in the first hundred pages o the Omnibus COVID thread???
Or are you of the opinion that viri don't ever exist?
As for Pasteur, yes, he got really lucky with his apparatus.
In J&J`s case, they along with all of the other pharmeucutical companies have complete immunity to any lawsuits that may come about because of the harm or deaths of people because of their vaccines. This is a law. So there is no monetary downside to being even slightly reckless.That's why I think the bulk of their shots are saline. They can't afford another lawsuit.
Never volunteer for a trial of anything. They always have to work out the defects. Everything has defects, especially drugs. How many times have they admitted serious/deadly side effects they were aware of from the beginning, years if not decades earlier! ...and you are the guinea pig. They don't care about you
As we’ve seen documented on this forum since the Kung Flu hit, how severely one is afflicted is ENTIRELY a roll of the genetic dice. Members here know people personally in their 70’s and 80’s who’ve come down with it and had few (or no) symptoms. But others had friends or family in their 30’s and in otherwise perfect health who got it and died. It really is a genetic crap-shoot.
on a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
on a long enough timeline the resistance to getting the vaccine drops to zero.
and once they have a vaccine passport,
they will insist that you are vaccinated by every possible vaccine there is.
Wasn't johnson and johnson baby powder sold for decades knowingly containing asbestos? Now admitted - they offer a token settlement.
There's a response worth considering.Not sure why I would get a shot for a virus that hasn't been isolated yet blamed for causing a disease but no proof except "testing" done with a test not suited for it.
I was talking about covid, not the non- "vaccines"The REPORTED numbers are miniscule.
Several days ago VAERS had a few thousand deaths and (I think) 50,000 effects.
It's been said that only 1-10% of cases are reported.
Number of COVID Vaccine Injuries Reported to VAERS Surpasses 50,000, CDC Data Show • Children's Health Defense
Let's give the benefit of doubt and use the higher number-10%.
That would mean 22,000 death and 50, 000 injuries as of March 26 related to the virus.
Of course none of it could be lamed on the virus.
These same numbers were causing people to panic here on the Main Coronavirus thread and lots implied we're all gonna die.
Keep in mind that medicine is the third leading cause of death in this country.
No, the numbers are fake. People are being reported as dying from covid, but heck, for some strange reason deaths from flu, heart attacks, etc. have all but disappeared .....gee I wonder why.....LOL. About 40,000 people died in car wrecks in the US in 2019; Over 400,000 from covid in 2020. Yep, exactly the same.........
It seems that most of the problems do come after the second, but the first person I know of that died from the vaccine had just had his first shot. At supper tonight our son told us that one of his customers told him his sister had her first shot a few days ago and then had a stroke. She’s lost her memory from the stroke.From what I’ve read, that’s after shot #2.
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Is that why the US life expectancy decreased by a little over 1 full year in the last year?No, the numbers are fake. People are being reported as dying from covid, but heck, for some strange reason deaths from flu, heart attacks, etc. have all but disappeared .....gee I wonder why.....
Yep you're right, but it was a quick reply to someone who said that over half a million additional deaths never happened.Terry, that story was posted here when it came out. Total Dup.
I remember ten years ago when this thread started off with.. I know the bulk of the members here are the “plus” side of 50.I know the bulk of the members here are on the "plus" side of 60, so I can understand the worry and concern about catching COVID. After reading Dennis' post about the J&J vax, I got curious to know how many others here are going to get their shot.
My hubby and I are vehemently opposed to it. Not only because it's experimental and we don't trust the gov or big pharma, but also because we'd just rather take our chances with the virus. We know a lot of people who came down with it, including my 71 year old father, and they barely had the sniffles. But I'm not judging or blaming anyone who has gotten the vaccine. It just feels like those of us holding out are becoming a smaller tribe with each passing day. Thankfully, we both have medical clearance to decline the vaccine. I have a hyper-histamine condition where I have allergic reactions to many foods (one of the criteria that doctors recommended would not do well with the vax) and my hubby has a genetic blood clotting disorder (another condition that does not mesh well with the vax). I do foresee issues with my employer. Most everyone on my team is in the process of getting their vaccines now, and my boss is already talking about bringing everyone onsite at the headquarters regularly for a meet-up. That means flying and travel. I don't think legally they can force me, but I guess I'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
Anyway, what say you? Have you been vaccinated? Do you plan to get vaccinated? Thoughts? Comments?