EBOLA Per Infowars: Exclusive: Patients being "disappeared" to prevent panic

[the watcher]

If they hid them all, would you notice or just assume it's all over? PRAISE the CDC, they did it!!!! By "leaking" one every so often, it actually makes it appear less damaging, than denying there are none at all and being caught and called a lier.

This is the logic that prevades in Washington.

But anyone that thinks we're hearing the truth is deluded lol. I predict in the next 4 weeks you'll see the true full brunt of just how out of control this is.

 

[kittyknits]

I hope so because I know some people who need to know the truth.

 

[Warthog]

Just to kind of say, Really? Can't you just say per Infowars? Hint Hint. Maybe your title is incorrect, misleading and maybe the writer should consider editing the title?

But I guess it is no to the hints of above. A link on Drudge is Per Drudge .

Haven't you heard? The days of Alex Jones being woo woo are over! Seems like he's been right all along!!!!

 

[Reasonable Rascal]

The fact a doctor attached his name to this lends credance in my book. Hiding patients? You know they are. And the flu season comment is spot on in my book. A perfect storm forming.

The fact that he is a doctor does not mean he isn't a conspiracy nut either. I'm not judging *his* veracity here, but Infowars is a strongly suspect source for very good reason.

RR

 

[mrrk1562]

D.O's generally try to keep you healthy ...they really don't want to see you in their office sick ..my d.o trys to go with the least invasive way ...checks my blood levels ..sez I need to eat more of this.. less of that ...want to treat the cause of pain not give me a pain med if I really don't need it ....when im sick with a sore throat and head and chest cold ..he tells me to stay home from work ...get lots of rest ..and being that your staying home drink beer instead of cough syrup with codine ..gives me what is basically an anti hystimin to dry me up ...drinking beer numbs the throat ..wash's it makes me pee ..which flush's the virus out of my system ..and along with doing that drink grape fruit juise and chicken noodle soup ..he only give me an anti biotic only when I really need it ..our bodies are pretty good about taking care of us if we give it the right things and not a bunch of man made chemicals ...

 

[the watcher]

The fact that he is a doctor does not mean he isn't a conspiracy nut either. I'm not judging *his* veracity here, but Infowars is a strongly suspect source for very good reason.

RR

I'm not a Jones fan either, actually can't stand to hear him, but everyone complains about the "anonymous sources" quoted. Well here is a Doc with a name and a message.

 

[Josie]

Deleted...because Josie screwed up the first attempt to post!

 

[Josie]

So did I--just looking at his educational background IMHO its a JOKE!

1. He is not an MD, but a DO, which in most cases means he couldn't get into medical school, which is not difficult to do.
2. He went a school to get his DO that is not even ranked.

Assuming arguendo one disagrees with 1 and 2 and contends he was a genius and had personal reasons to get DO (rather than MD) we have no way to know if he finished top of class or bottom--big difference.

I always tell people the person who finished LAST is still called DR!!

Just as all plumbers are not equal, nor mechanics, so too with Drs.

What the H-E-double hockey sticks are you talking about? Quit swallowing the line put out by the AMA (You know...that organization that supported O-care.)

The difference between DO and MD is more about approach. DO's tend to look at the patient as a number of complex systems that are intricately interact. MD's tend to look at the effect of injury or disease on the human body. Most DO's tend therefore, to act as primary care because very few specialize. Also, DO's may or may not do manipulations like a chiropractor. Both complete four years of undergrad, four years of grad and a residency. They both must pass board certification in order to practice. It is NOT a matter of GPA that decides if you pursue an MD or DO. It's more about the approach you are comfortable in taking while treating the patient. I have known and used both. Not a huge difference IMHO. Just for clarification, there are ones in both that I wouldn't trust my worst enemy to. They were/are THAT bad.

FYI...Kansas City University of Medicine and Bioscience, where Dr. Lawrenzi received his graduate degree, IS accredited by AOA among other governing agencies. MD school are accredited by the LCME. Per Wiki..."MD-granting medical schools are accredited by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education, while DO-granting medical schools are accredited by the American Osteopathic Association Commission on Osteopathic College Accreditation."

I guess I am wondering just what kind of "ranking" you are looking for. Size? Cost? Party? Graduates gainfully employed?

My apologies for the thread drift.

 

[Faroe]

A credible news site for you would be what?

ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, USA Today?

What?

LOL you forgot NPR. For some reason that one gets under my skin more than all the others. Even the intro theme music feels like brainwashing.

AJ is impossibly annoying, but if he has someone like Joel Skousen on, I'll deal with it and listen.

 

[Nowski]

The D.O.'s that I have had experience with, knew more about the actual
functioning of the entire human body, than did the M.D.'s.

The D.O.'s were more about trying to fix your health problems using
natural methods. D.O.'s are more like physicians were before big
pharma came on the scene.

Most of the M.D.'s today just want to write up a script of some kind.
Always pushing some pill. Even had a doc basically tell me that once.

Be safe everyone.

Regards to all,
Nowski

 

[blueridge]

obolacide?


No worries - the obala reports will likely return shortly after the Nov. elections - after the PR jerk allows them again.

 

[Reasonable Rascal]

So did I--just looking at his educational background IMHO its a JOKE!

One of the best pulmonologists I know graduated from one of those Caribbean medical schools because he couldn't get into, and afford, one in the US. This guy is sharp and pretty much runs rings around any US-trained pulmonologist I have worked with. He's a WASP, BTW, not Indian or Pakistani and whatever. It's not the school but what the doc does with his schooling.

RR

 

[Baloo]

One of the best pulmonologists I know graduated from one of those Caribbean medical schools because he couldn't get into, and afford, one in the US. This guy is sharp and pretty much runs rings around any US-trained pulmonologist I have worked with. He's a WASP, BTW, not Indian or Pakistani and whatever. It's not the school but what the doc does with his schooling.

RR

I agree in part. There are good people from bad schools just like there are bad people from good schools.

However, the school does matter. For instance, I started my doctorate at about the #20 school. After finishing 2d in my class after the first year my profs said I need to transfer as I was beyond what the school could offer me. So I did--to the Number 1 school.

What a world of difference. The students were significantly more intelligent and what we were taught was totally different.

There is a difference. I know from personal experience.

 

[medic38572]

So this would be the work of the rapid response federal ebola swat team that was announced? People need to understand, the $500k to $1mil. per person to save YOUR life from ebola will not happen. They want it here, made sure it got here and spread, now they will use it to keep the current regime in power.

Bingo....

 

[Doc1]

I am a Jones fan and here's why: The conservative/libertarian/religious/free market right has a nasty habit of eating their own. You almost never see the left/progressives do this. They're smarter than us, at least insofar as they realize that a weakened front hurts all of their positions. You should all - got that? ALL! - support the alternative media and its various personalities...or at least hold your tongues when you're inclined to snipe. Remember what your Momma said? "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all." No, I'm not suggesting censorship, but I hear those on the right condemn those on "our" side far more than I hear them condemn the left.

Speaking of alternative media, you all do realize that TB2K is part of the alternative media, right? Right? No one here - to include myself, Dennis and any of the publicly-known members has done anything that amounts to a hill of beans compared to Alex Jones. The guy virtually single-handedly built an alternative media empire that now has better numbers than much of the Main Stream Media and rather than become subverted by his success, is still a PITA to the Powers That Be.

Is this hero-worship on my part? Nope. Do I slavishly agree with everything on Prison Planet? Nope. What I am doing is honestly recognizing the very real accomplishments of a man who has done much to advance the things that most of us here believe in and according him well-deserved respect. I think that's the least we can do.

Best regards
Doc

 

[medic38572]

I am a Jones fan and here's why: The conservative/libertarian/religious/free market right has a nasty habit of eating their own. You almost never see the left/progressives do this. They're smarter than us, at least insofar as they realize that a weakened front hurts all of their positions. You should all - got that? ALL! - support the alternative media and its various personalities...or at least hold your tongues when you're inclined to snipe. Remember what your Momma said? "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all." No, I'm not suggesting censorship, but I hear those on the right condemn those on "our" side far more than I hear them condemn the left.

Speaking of alternative media, you all do realize that TB2K is part of the alternative media, right? Right? No one here - to include myself, Dennis and any of the publicly-known members has done anything that amounts to a hill of beans compared to Alex Jones. The guy virtually single-handedly built an alternative media empire that now has better numbers than much of the Main Stream Media and rather than become subverted by his success, is still a PITA to the Powers That Be.

Is this hero-worship on my part? Nope. Do I slavishly agree with everything on Prison Planet? Nope. What I am doing is honestly recognizing the very real accomplishments of a man who has done much to advance the things that most of us here believe in and according him well-deserved respect. I think that's the least we can do.

Best regards
Doc

Good Post, Doc1

 

[John13]

I am a Jones fan and here's why: The conservative/libertarian/religious/free market right has a nasty habit of eating their own. You almost never see the left/progressives do this. They're smarter than us, at least insofar as they realize that a weakened front hurts all of their positions. You should all - got that? ALL! - support the alternative media and its various personalities...or at least hold your tongues when you're inclined to snipe. Remember what your Momma said? "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all." No, I'm not suggesting censorship, but I hear those on the right condemn those on "our" side far more than I hear them condemn the left.

Speaking of alternative media, you all do realize that TB2K is part of the alternative media, right? Right? No one here - to include myself, Dennis and any of the publicly-known members has done anything that amounts to a hill of beans compared to Alex Jones. The guy virtually single-handedly built an alternative media empire that now has better numbers than much of the Main Stream Media and rather than become subverted by his success, is still a PITA to the Powers That Be.

Is this hero-worship on my part? Nope. Do I slavishly agree with everything on Prison Planet? Nope. What I am doing is honestly recognizing the very real accomplishments of a man who has done much to advance the things that most of us here believe in and according him well-deserved respect. I think that's the least we can do.

Best regards
Doc

Agreed! He has a great team of reporters!

 

[Mavelle]

Exactly, that's what most of us want to know. Weird.

 

[jed turtle]

I am a Jones fan and here's why: The conservative/libertarian/religious/free market right has a nasty habit of eating their own. You almost never see the left/progressives do this. They're smarter than us, at least insofar as they realize that a weakened front hurts all of their positions. You should all - got that? ALL! - support the alternative media and its various personalities...or at least hold your tongues when you're inclined to snipe. Remember what your Momma said? "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all." No, I'm not suggesting censorship, but I hear those on the right condemn those on "our" side far more than I hear them condemn the left.

Speaking of alternative media, you all do realize that TB2K is part of the alternative media, right? Right? No one here - to include myself, Dennis and any of the publicly-known members has done anything that amounts to a hill of beans compared to Alex Jones. The guy virtually single-handedly built an alternative media empire that now has better numbers than much of the Main Stream Media and rather than become subverted by his success, is still a PITA to the Powers That Be.

Is this hero-worship on my part? Nope. Do I slavishly agree with everything on Prison Planet? Nope. What I am doing is honestly recognizing the very real accomplishments of a man who has done much to advance the things that most of us here believe in and according him well-deserved respect. I think that's the least we can do.

Best regards
Doc

lots of good points there. let's give credit where credit is due, especially to those who question authority and whose efforts have accelerated our own education.

 

[ChicagoMan74]

I saw this article, then saw it was per INFOWARS, so I did not even read.

I don't blame you. I take their reports and sources with a grain of salt. I was quite disappointed that they were on the COMPLETELY wrong side of the Mike Brown/Ferguson story.

 

[Be Well]

I don't blame you. I take their reports and sources with a grain of salt. I was quite disappointed that they were on the COMPLETELY wrong side of the Mike Brown/Ferguson story.

AJ often mixes/matches related topics into one story that misleads.

Grain of salt? Big big salt shaker with big holes.

"Half the truth is often a great lie".

If people have a habit of purposely misleading or are clumsy enough to mislead accidentally often, then when can they be trusted?

 

[kittyknits]

D.O's generally try to keep you healthy ...they really don't want to see you in their office sick ..my d.o trys to go with the least invasive way ...checks my blood levels ..sez I need to eat more of this.. less of that ...want to treat the cause of pain not give me a pain med if I really don't need it ....when im sick with a sore throat and head and chest cold ..he tells me to stay home from work ...get lots of rest ..and being that your staying home drink beer instead of cough syrup with codine ..gives me what is basically an anti hystimin to dry me up ...drinking beer numbs the throat ..wash's it makes me pee ..which flush's the virus out of my system ..and along with doing that drink grape fruit juise and chicken noodle soup ..he only give me an anti biotic only when I really need it ..our bodies are pretty good about taking care of us if we give it the right things and not a bunch of man made chemicals ...

Seriously, this sounds like what MD's should be doing and what many did before they sold out to big pharma.

AF doctors I saw in the 70's were a lot like this.

 

[brokenwings]

One of my doctors is a DO. He went to school longer than a regular doctor does. He was the BEST OBGYN in my whole area!! Everyone loved him and he had a booming practice. After insurance starting changing he had to quit and to go work for "The Man" as he called the hospital. He hated it so he quit. He was the only doctor who would listen to my other health problems and help me with them too. He is the only doctor I have ever met who researched and found out how to treat thyroid problems the right way. He also was the only doctor who would prescribe bio-identical hormones. Anyway, he is still a doctor just not in his own practice and office anymore. He is one of the greats!! My other doctor who is a regular internist doesn't give a damn how I need to be treated for my thyroid and he doesn't care that nothing helps my migraines. After going to him for 25 years he just doesn't get it. If I could find another DO I would go to him in a heart beat!

 

[JohnGaltfla]

 

[ittybit]

If the family that Duncan stayed with were all alive, we would have seen them on tv by now. Even if they had no desire to on tv. The just lost everything, and were poor before Duncan came to America. Someone would be willing to pay them a lot of money for an exclusive. Enough money to buy them a house and to live on. Yet, they want us to believe they are turning that down to stay on couches in their church's rec room?

Right! Even the President of the USA can't get them to align with his message of hope for America, that Ebola is not a problem. Sure, whatever you want to believe, right?

Not you, NS, but the hypothetical "man on the strett", ya know.

 

[Suzieq]

The thread went from talking about Ebola Patients missing to attacking the doctor who told the story.

 

[changed]

Seabird, this comment is not directed at you at all, but I don't like Alex Jones and I highly doubt that a medical doctor is going to use the term "disappeared."

 

[SAPPHIRE]

DO's I've known were much more into holisic treatments with patients working together to get WELL............NOT LIKE ALLOPATHs WHO MOSTLY PUSH BIG PHARMA/INVASIVE PROCEDURES/SURGERY to the max.............won't go into details.........but most of the hospital docs I've heard/seen lately strike me as clones....NO OFFENSE TO ANY TRUE PRACTITIONER OF HIPPOCRATIC MEDICINE.............

 

[Mulder]

Now that is a great idea for a fitting avatar.

 

[LilRose8]

What the H-E-double hockey sticks are you talking about? Quit swallowing the line put out by the AMA (You know...that organization that supported O-care.)

The difference between DO and MD is more about approach. DO's tend to look at the patient as a number of complex systems that are intricately interact. MD's tend to look at the effect of injury or disease on the human body. Most DO's tend therefore, to act as primary care because very few specialize. Also, DO's may or may not do manipulations like a chiropractor. Both complete four years of undergrad, four years of grad and a residency. They both must pass board certification in order to practice. It is NOT a matter of GPA that decides if you pursue an MD or DO. It's more about the approach you are comfortable in taking while treating the patient. I have known and used both. Not a huge difference IMHO. Just for clarification, there are ones in both that I wouldn't trust my worst enemy to. They were/are THAT bad.

FYI...Kansas City University of Medicine and Bioscience, where Dr. Lawrenzi received his graduate degree, IS accredited by AOA among other governing agencies. MD school are accredited by the LCME. Per Wiki..."MD-granting medical schools are accredited by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education, while DO-granting medical schools are accredited by the American Osteopathic Association Commission on Osteopathic College Accreditation."

I guess I am wondering just what kind of "ranking" you are looking for. Size? Cost? Party? Graduates gainfully employed?

My apologies for the thread drift.

Good for you Josie! People really need to understand that D O's are bonifide doctors, they just look at a more total patient and holistic approach rather than concentrate on disease. They are more interested in prevention and more natural ways to deal with a health issue, where the other docs are more into hitting an issue with only established 'cures'. I appreciate that a D.O. will offer biodentical drugs rather than chemical drugs and get a better result....even though the big pharma HATE biodenticals and try hard to shove them under the rug. OK thread drift OFF.

 

[LilRose8]

DO's I've known were much more into holisic treatments with patients working together to get WELL............NOT LIKE ALLOPATHs WHO MOSTLY PUSH BIG PHARMA/INVASIVE PROCEDURES/SURGERY to the max.............won't go into details.........but most of the hospital docs I've heard/seen lately strike me as clones....NO OFFENSE TO ANY TRUE PRACTITIONER OF HIPPOCRATIC MEDICINE.............

in total agreement here

 

[EastWest]

I am a Jones fan and here's why: The conservative/libertarian/religious/free market right has a nasty habit of eating their own. You almost never see the left/progressives do this. They're smarter than us, at least insofar as they realize that a weakened front hurts all of their positions. You should all - got that? ALL! - support the alternative media and its various personalities...or at least hold your tongues when you're inclined to snipe. Remember what your Momma said? "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all." No, I'm not suggesting censorship, but I hear those on the right condemn those on "our" side far more than I hear them condemn the left.

Speaking of alternative media, you all do realize that TB2K is part of the alternative media, right? Right? No one here - to include myself, Dennis and any of the publicly-known members has done anything that amounts to a hill of beans compared to Alex Jones. The guy virtually single-handedly built an alternative media empire that now has better numbers than much of the Main Stream Media and rather than become subverted by his success, is still a PITA to the Powers That Be.

Is this hero-worship on my part? Nope. Do I slavishly agree with everything on Prison Planet? Nope. What I am doing is honestly recognizing the very real accomplishments of a man who has done much to advance the things that most of us here believe in and according him well-deserved respect. I think that's the least we can do.

Best regards
Doc

Well said Doc! A.J. has been doing this since he was a very young man and made some mistakes along the way. I've been an listener for almost a decade now and find no fault in his reporting he's well ahead of the rest of the so called media. FYI Drudge links him regularly because he's not controlled by the PTB or afraid to report the truth.

 

[LilRose8]

I am a Jones fan and here's why: The conservative/libertarian/religious/free market right has a nasty habit of eating their own. You almost never see the left/progressives do this. They're smarter than us, at least insofar as they realize that a weakened front hurts all of their positions. You should all - got that? ALL! - support the alternative media and its various personalities...or at least hold your tongues when you're inclined to snipe. Remember what your Momma said? "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all." No, I'm not suggesting censorship, but I hear those on the right condemn those on "our" side far more than I hear them condemn the left.

Speaking of alternative media, you all do realize that TB2K is part of the alternative media, right? Right? No one here - to include myself, Dennis and any of the publicly-known members has done anything that amounts to a hill of beans compared to Alex Jones. The guy virtually single-handedly built an alternative media empire that now has better numbers than much of the Main Stream Media and rather than become subverted by his success, is still a PITA to the Powers That Be.

Is this hero-worship on my part? Nope. Do I slavishly agree with everything on Prison Planet? Nope. What I am doing is honestly recognizing the very real accomplishments of a man who has done much to advance the things that most of us here believe in and according him well-deserved respect. I think that's the least we can do.

Best regards
Doc

Doc, thanks for a well thought out and cogent reply. I, too, believe he has been right more than wrong( recently) and way ahead of the curve lately. He is saying what everyone here is saying, so why is he not respected?

 

[Seabird]

Seabird, this comment is not directed at you at all, but I don't like Alex Jones and I highly doubt that a medical doctor is going to use the term "disappeared."

No offense taken, Changed! I questioned the article at first, too. But the message reflects what my gut is feeling. And no other public information source has done so. Perhaps--and I could be wrong--but just perhaps this is the only way a whistleblower could get the warning out.

PS: I trust Drudge implicitly. That's why I labeled it 'Per Drudge.' That's solid.

 

[Milk-maid]

I have medical personnel all scattered through-out my family... they talk just like we do. They use everyday words.

 

[Plain Jane]

All that has to happen is for Duncan's relatives to give a press breifing IN PERSON, as well as Nurse Pham's boyfriend, and Nurse Vincent's family when they are done with quarentine. Credibility in the CDC will be mostly restored.

 

[bw]

Seabird, this comment is not directed at you at all, but I don't like Alex Jones and I highly doubt that a medical doctor is going to use the term "disappeared."

To say someone had been disappeared entered the vernacular with the Argentina dirty war. It has a precise meaning and is immediately understandable. Even a well-spoken person can use it to get a point across.

 

[summerthyme]

All that has to happen is for Duncan's relatives to give a press breifing IN PERSON, as well as Nurse Pham's boyfriend, and Nurse Vincent's family when they are done with quarentine. Credibility in the CDC will be mostly restored.

Really? I might believe that those people are still alive and kicking were I to see them at a press conference, but the CDC has blown it permanently in terms of credibility. They're making it up as they go along, and you CAN'T back off from something like that without wholesale changes- starting by firing that fraud at the top.

Summerthyme

 

[Countrymouse]

I am a Jones fan and here's why: The conservative/libertarian/religious/free market right has a nasty habit of eating their own. You almost never see the left/progressives do this. They're smarter than us, at least insofar as they realize that a weakened front hurts all of their positions. You should all - got that? ALL! - support the alternative media and its various personalities...or at least hold your tongues when you're inclined to snipe. Remember what your Momma said? "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all." No, I'm not suggesting censorship, but I hear those on the right condemn those on "our" side far more than I hear them condemn the left.

Speaking of alternative media, you all do realize that TB2K is part of the alternative media, right? Right? No one here - to include myself, Dennis and any of the publicly-known members has done anything that amounts to a hill of beans compared to Alex Jones. The guy virtually single-handedly built an alternative media empire that now has better numbers than much of the Main Stream Media and rather than become subverted by his success, is still a PITA to the Powers That Be.

Is this hero-worship on my part? Nope. Do I slavishly agree with everything on Prison Planet? Nope. What I am doing is honestly recognizing the very real accomplishments of a man who has done much to advance the things that most of us here believe in and according him well-deserved respect. I think that's the least we can do.

Best regards
Doc

Very good points, Doc.

And I'm bumping this on the hope that it will STAY at the forefront of our attention for the next 4 weeks, for as a poster above put it---by then (almost 2 more 21-day cycles), and certainly by the "new standard" of 42 days, if things are spreading here as they did in the west African states (even among health care workers--who in AFRICA actually WERE WEARING LEVEL 4 HAZMAT, which OUR Health Care Workers are NOT), the level of infected among both HCWs and the general population will be too great to hide.

Of course, if it reaches that level then we can all bend over and kiss our collective bottoms goodbye....

 

[Countrymouse]

Doc, thanks for a well thought out and cogent reply. I, too, believe he has been right more than wrong( recently) and way ahead of the curve lately. He is saying what everyone here is saying, so why is he not respected?

I think 2 reasons:

1. What he said is what some in the population WANT to happen (i.e., they are complicit) so they try to discredit him as part of their CYA strategy.

2. What he said is what others in the population DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE CAN HAPPEN---they cannot face that things will be that bad, so they refuse to see and believe that things can get that bad, so they discredit him as part of their way of trying to ignore that the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming freight train.