EBOLA Per Infowars: Exclusive: Patients being "disappeared" to prevent panic

NoPlugsNM

Deceased
I think the reason has less to do with panic and more to do with managing the political fallout before the election.



I think the Ebola Game has more to do with upsetting people and making them afraid to go out . . managing the turnout FOR the election . . cutting down the amount of people who would have created CHANGE in the status quo.


NP
 

City Marm

Contributing Member
Patients being disappeared

After listening to the Dr. that called into the show and then some other medical
people calling in and commenting on that show, I believe it could be true.
Remember the man that recently vomited and died on a plane that landed at JFK
airport? We were told it was not from Ebola, but a heart attack. Even congressman Peter King commented that how do we know that it's not from Ebola? There isn't an instant test. This was played on the local NYC metro radio station that I heard.
The media is too quick to say not Ebola. and as for that NYC Dr. that was just
hospitalized I find it hard to believe he is the first Ebola patient in NYC. There
is an entire Liberian community in Staten Island and they all fly into JFK. There are
millions of people here and I think some of them could have easily fallen through the proverbial "cracks"
 

Josie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I can't speak to the source but I too did a little checking on James Lawrenzi's background. He seems credible. His claim is walking hand in hand with my gut. Like others have mentioned, NOTHING on Duncan's family and living companions? They have apparently disappeared. My feeling is that there are many more cases that are not being reported. We hear nothing but Ebola from media outlets for maybe five days or so and then it just drops off the radar? I don't think so. The only reason we have heard about the cases so far are that the nurses were reported about and TPTB didn't realize the hysteria it would bring. So they are wisked off to facilities that are better equipped and much more secure. The info leaving those facilities is tightly controlled. IMO, the reason we know about the doc in NYC is because of social media. Too many witnesses with cell phones and it happened before the lid could be screwed on tight. My prediction is that this doctor will be the only case and he will be cured also.

I have had more than one medical professional convey to me that they are very worried about this. These are front line professionals that have seen and witnessed not only bad flu seasons but everything from things like e-coli outbreaks to scabies infestations. They know how quickly these invaders can infect a community. They know how badly the seasonal flu can attack a person. In the past, they haven't usually been hysterical about these types of things. But let me tell you this, they have told me they are concerned. But if I have any type of body language skills, I am reading that they are scared. And what they are NOT saying speaks more to me than what they are saying.
 

Flippper

Time Traveler
In this age of instant social media gratification, I find it EXTREMELY unlikely this to be true. The mathematical logistics of this are just too complicated to manage.

Not only would TPTB have to successfully "whisk away" the patient, but an effective means of silencing friends, family, co-workers, neighbors, service providers (mail, UPS, landscapers, repairmen, etc), etc. would have to be implemented. emails, facebook, twitter, etc. would have to be locked down FOR EVERY ONE OF THE AFOREMENTIONED relations.

To bastardize the saying of Benjamin Franklin, the only way two people can keep a secret is to kill one of the two.

This scenario of "disappearing patients" is HIGHLY unlikely, IMHO.

You mean like the disappearing Ebola? obola's birth certificate? obola's fake birth certificate? They are perfectly capable of keeping secrets and knowing how to make others keep secrets when the need arises-how about those missing emails in the IRS? They have unlimited amounts of FRN with which to bribe the little people.

As for anything from Jones being automatically tossed in the waste bin, I'd be careful about that. I've no doubt he's part of the managed news, but like Beck, they are given credibility by hosting genuine patriots, scholars, doctors, etc. in order to make themselves appear legit. I still listen to Beck's iheart station for short stints because of that. Once a year is about all I can take from Jones, he grates on me. If you notice, they will take one topic and beat it to death, I've heard Limbaugh do an entire show on one tired, inane tidbit of news. This is conditioning.

If this Ebola thing is real, and is as virulent as it folks here discuss, it behooves the people hating Ebola czar to keep it secret so folks don't take precautions. That is the best way to guarantee it's spread. Makes it easier to prevent an economic crash when people cut way back on spending. They want you dead, but they want you dead on their terms and timetable.
 

pinkelsteinsmom

Veteran Member
So this would be the work of the rapid response federal ebola swat team that was announced? People need to understand, the $500k to $1mil. per person to save YOUR life from ebola will not happen. They want it here, made sure it got here and spread, now they will use it to keep the current regime in power.
 

Southside

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I watched the interview and the doctor seemed very credible. He is supposed to come be on the show in person Friday. I pray for his safety as now he may disappear. He said he just wants people to know and for other doctors to come forward. He says they are not even allowed to use the word ebola and several cases have been changed to malaria to cover it up. I do remember the man in Kansas City who had possible ebola and his apartment was sealed off then nothing.

Yes, I also watched, as I often do. The fact is Alex Jones is WAY AHEAD of the curve. He has a HUGE following, and he gets "Well vetted" people to come on his show and spill the beans. He followed up this segment with others, vetted in the same manner, told the same story. Ultra Credible.

Southside
 

Southside

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The problem with Infowars and so many other fringe sites is everything is a crisis or conspiracy. They spend all their time crying wolf and at some point they will be correct and few will listen because of their past record of reporting half truths. I did read the article, even though the thought of taking them serious gave me Ebola symptoms, and on one hand it makes sense and on the other, it doesn't make sense.

Obama doesn't want the borders closed so it makes sense to hide Ebola victims. However, if that is the case, why didn't they hide the doctor in NYC? Talk about a panic in the making! I have always wondered how the Duncan family and friends could possibly managed not to get sick so from that standpoint, the article makes sense. But it would make more sense to not hide the Duncan contact illnesses because everyone knew about them and hide the doctor before he was reported.

I did check out the doctor and found lots of information on him but nothing bad. I was surprised. He does appear to add credibility to the story. I guess we just need to see how things unfold and if the Infowars article is true, it will come out.

Willow

Though I find the Doctor that came on the show to be completely credible, your synopsis above is pretty much spot on. Alex does often run around with his "hair on fire".

Southside
 

pinkelsteinsmom

Veteran Member
So this would be the work of the rapid response federal ebola swat team that was announced? People need to understand, the $500k to $1mil. per person to save YOUR life from ebola will not happen. They want it here, made sure it got here and spread, now they will use it to keep the current regime in power.
 

LightEcho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
None of us knew about the case in Atlanta until they came out and announced she had recovered.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
While I don't disagree that I've also read this, I believe that conditions in West Africa (extreme high temps and humidity, working in tents or even outside in the sun, NO air conditioning) are far different than your average hospital (which, at least to me, is often downright COLD)

I'm certain that these are still not an "all day, every day" wear garment, but I suspect HCW's here could wear them for 2-3 hours before the strain of having to do everything wearing double gloves, etc became too much and they needed a break.

Summerthyme

The typical situation for the moon suits is that after about 2-3 hours you have lost 10+ pounds and need to rehydrate at a rate that challenges your body's capacity to uptake fluids without generating more fluid loss.
8 hour shift?? Pretty much heat stroke even in hospital...
There is a reason that the protocols for REMOVING them are so rigorous and require more than one person to take them off. THe wearer is pretty much exhausted and makes mistakes.

This is why you get weighed before you don them and after you take them off and shower..to decide whether you can be safely orally rehydrated or require an IV for recovery.

Remember that the body can handle AROUND 12 to 15 hundred ml per hour liquid input without vomiting or diarrhea starting. Makes it rough when you are losing a couple litres an hour...
 

the watcher

Inactive
It's not hard to make someone disappear. How many times have we read cops doing it to inmates? Slap them in under John Doe, move them around to differant jails, etc. It happens. Now if you want to keep the persona non grata, stick them in one of the military hospitals. No questions are asked and no one knows any differant. Throw a gag order in on that and viola.
 

Sleeping Cobra

TB Fanatic
I think the crematoriums will be super busy in the future. :whistle: Ashes don't tell tales.

And i don't want to sound crude.
 
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Suzieq

Veteran Member
Remember a while back the POTUS wrote an executive order, that if anyone appears sick and had a respiratory infection, could be detained and put into a holding area.
 

Oilpatch Hand

3-Bomb General, TB2K Army
No matter how plausible the proposition may be, remember that it's brought to you by Alex Jones/Infowars.

Nobody has managed to satisfactorily explain where these "disappearing" persons are being taken. That brings us to another point:

Just because the klieg lights are no longer shining on somebody doesn't mean they have "disappeared." In the case of the Dallas Ebola patient, we know he had family and acquaintances who may have been exposed, but then again, it appears that none of them have contracted the disease as a result of that exposure. As there's no news story there (FLASH: MAN DOESN'T CONTRACT EBOLA! :rofl: ) news coverage of those indiviuduals has ceased, for the most part.

So, did these people who passed the incubation period without symptoms and without contracting the disease disappear, involuntarily or otherwise? Why, no, of course not. They're still there, probably thankful that the people with the microphones and videocams are finally leaving them alone to pick up the pieces of their interrupted lives.
 

Suzieq

Veteran Member
Here's more of that interview with Dr. James Lawrenzi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd4tnT-5FKM

5:20 minutes into video, Dr. James Lawrenzi said they were told not to use the word Ebola, if an active Ebola patient comes into their hospital. Say they have some kind of viral infection and put them in isolation.

6:20 minutes into video, Nurses and Drug Reps. came into his office. They said some of their contacts are telling them, that the they have gone into the hospital in Kansas City and took all protective equipments in all departments away! They never came back and replaced any of it. Doctor wants to know if this is going on in other hospitals around the country, or is it just going on in the Kansas City hospital?
 
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Baloo

Veteran Member
I can't speak to the source but I too did a little checking on James Lawrenzi's background. He seems credible. His claim is walking hand in hand with my gut. Like others have mentioned, NOTHING on Duncan's family and living companions? They have apparently disappeared. My feeling is that there are many more cases that are not being reported. We hear nothing but Ebola from media outlets for maybe five days or so and then it just drops off the radar? I don't think so. The only reason we have heard about the cases so far are that the nurses were reported about and TPTB didn't realize the hysteria it would bring. So they are wisked off to facilities that are better equipped and much more secure. The info leaving those facilities is tightly controlled. IMO, the reason we know about the doc in NYC is because of social media. Too many witnesses with cell phones and it happened before the lid could be screwed on tight. My prediction is that this doctor will be the only case and he will be cured also.

I have had more than one medical professional convey to me that they are very worried about this. These are front line professionals that have seen and witnessed not only bad flu seasons but everything from things like e-coli outbreaks to scabies infestations. They know how quickly these invaders can infect a community. They know how badly the seasonal flu can attack a person. In the past, they haven't usually been hysterical about these types of things. But let me tell you this, they have told me they are concerned. But if I have any type of body language skills, I am reading that they are scared. And what they are NOT saying speaks more to me than what they are saying.

So did I--just looking at his educational background IMHO its a JOKE!

1. He is not an MD, but a DO, which in most cases means he couldn't get into medical school, which is not difficult to do.
2. He went a school to get his DO that is not even ranked.

Assuming arguendo one disagrees with 1 and 2 and contends he was a genius and had personal reasons to get DO (rather than MD) we have no way to know if he finished top of class or bottom--big difference.

I always tell people the person who finished LAST is still called DR!!

Just as all plumbers are not equal, nor mechanics, so too with Drs.
 

Digital Omnivore

Veteran Member
So did I--just looking at his educational background IMHO its a JOKE!
1. He is not an MD, but a DO, which in most cases means he couldn't get into medical school, which is not difficult to do.

I have a friend who is a D.O. who could have gotten into an Ivy League medical school to get a MD. The curriculum are fairly similar. As for getting into Medical School, it can be pretty difficult depending on which school you are applying to.
 

Baloo

Veteran Member
I have a friend who is a D.O. who could have gotten into an Ivy League medical school to get a MD. The curriculum are fairly similar. As for getting into Medical School, it can be pretty difficult depending on which school you are applying to.

I know this is a digression, but I am just curious why your friend would choose DO over Ivy League MD? (FYI I have a doctorate from Ivy league school, and at the time of my entry it was ranked tied for 1 in USA)
The future career opportunities are quite different.
 

Meadowlark

Has No Life - Lives on TB
What do you call the guy who partied his way through med school, and barely graduated and passed the med boards by his fingernails?




Doctor!
 

msswv123

Veteran Member
I can't speak to the source but I too did a little checking on James Lawrenzi's background. He seems credible. His claim is walking hand in hand with my gut. Like others have mentioned, NOTHING on Duncan's family and living companions? They have apparently disappeared. My feeling is that there are many more cases that are not being reported. We hear nothing but Ebola from media outlets for maybe five days or so and then it just drops off the radar? I don't think so. The only reason we have heard about the cases so far are that the nurses were reported about and TPTB didn't realize the hysteria it would bring. So they are wisked off to facilities that are better equipped and much more secure. The info leaving those facilities is tightly controlled. IMO, the reason we know about the doc in NYC is because of social media. Too many witnesses with cell phones and it happened before the lid could be screwed on tight. My prediction is that this doctor will be the only case and he will be cured also.

I have had more than one medical professional convey to me that they are very worried about this. These are front line professionals that have seen and witnessed not only bad flu seasons but everything from things like e-coli outbreaks to scabies infestations. They know how quickly these invaders can infect a community. They know how badly the seasonal flu can attack a person. In the past, they haven't usually been hysterical about these types of things. But let me tell you this, they have told me they are concerned. But if I have any type of body language skills, I am reading that they are scared. And what they are NOT saying speaks more to me than what they are saying.


This is right in line with what the thousands of nurses were saying on the press conference call last week. I know I posted an article on another thread about using the code F/T instead of the other "E" word.
 

Sub-Zero

Veteran Member
The problem with Infowars and so many other fringe sites is everything is a crisis or conspiracy. They spend all their time crying wolf and at some point they will be correct and few will listen because of their past record of reporting half truths. I did read the article, even though the thought of taking them serious gave me Ebola symptoms, and on one hand it makes sense and on the other, it doesn't make sense.

Obama doesn't want the borders closed so it makes sense to hide Ebola victims. However, if that is the case, why didn't they hide the doctor in NYC? Talk about a panic in the making! I have always wondered how the Duncan family and friends could possibly managed not to get sick so from that standpoint, the article makes sense. But it would make more sense to not hide the Duncan contact illnesses because everyone knew about them and hide the doctor before he was reported.

I did check out the doctor and found lots of information on him but nothing bad. I was surprised. He does appear to add credibility to the story. I guess we just need to see how things unfold and if the Infowars article is true, it will come out.

Willow

So, if you don't like conspiracy theories, why are you on TB2K?
 

Tennessee gal

Veteran Member
disappearing ebola patients? to where? FEMA camps? that would make the most sense for quarantine purposes.

i am far more disturbed by the disappearing hazmat suits. those should NOT be disappearing but should have become REQUIRED DAILY WEAR at ALL hospital receiving stations all across the country long before Eric Duncan ever showed up in Dallas.

the more i read, the more i am convinced they want to destroy the USA with ebola.

everything is going according to plan.

I agree Jed and it really ( excuse my language ) pisses me off the hospitals removing the protective gear from the staff and not replacing it. If I were on staff I'd tell the management they can stick the job where the sun doesn't shine and walk out. They don't care one bit about protecting their staff. No job is worth dying over needlessly.
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
I have a friend who is a D.O. who could have gotten into an Ivy League medical school to get a MD. The curriculum are fairly similar. As for getting into Medical School, it can be pretty difficult depending on which school you are applying to.

it turned out that my cardiologist when i had a heart attack this past spring was a DO. lucky for me! she was excellent and understanding when we informed her that i would not be doing statins. we are very health conscious and learned to eliminate vegetable cooking oils from our diet to deal with the causes of heart disease and she concurred that we were headed in the right direction. i have NOTHING against DOs, at all.
 

TxGal

Day by day
If the story is true, I'd be a little concerned for the safety of the Dr who came forward with the info. Seems more than a few 'whistleblower' types tend to have accidents...
 

kittyknits

Veteran Member
it turned out that my cardiologist when i had a heart attack this past spring was a DO. lucky for me! she was excellent and understanding when we informed her that i would not be doing statins. we are very health conscious and learned to eliminate vegetable cooking oils from our diet to deal with the causes of heart disease and she concurred that we were headed in the right direction. i have NOTHING against DOs, at all.


That's interesting. Maybe they have not been as brain-washed about big pharma being the answer to everything as MD's apparently have.

I had never heard of a DO degree until today; I'm going to check if there are any in my area.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Is this why we haven't seen any of Duncan's family or people that were in close contact with him?

That's got my vote---they're probably all ash and in urns (or storage cubes in a research lab) by now....

except---there WAS a pic circulating of supposedly Duncan's "nephew" who was living with them when the quarantine order came down. I haven't had time to compare pics (I don't even know if there ARE any "before" pics of the nephew other than that one video I posted), so that's a question mark...
 

Hansa44

Justine Case
From the Mayo Clinic...


What kind of doctor is a D.O.? Does a D.O. have the same training as an M.D.?
Answers from Brent A. Bauer, M.D.


A doctor of osteopathic medicine (D.O.) is a fully trained and licensed doctor who has attended and graduated from a U.S. osteopathic medical school. A doctor of medicine (M.D.) has attended and graduated from a conventional (allopathic) medical school.

The major difference between osteopathic and allopathic doctors is that some osteopathic doctors provide manual medicine therapies, such as spinal manipulation or massage therapy, as part of their treatment.

After medical school, both M.D.s and D.O.s must complete residency training in their chosen specialties. They must also pass the same licensing examination before they can treat people and prescribe medications.



With

Brent A. Bauer, M.D.
 

Coulter

Veteran Member
The problem with Infowars and so many other fringe sites is everything is a crisis or conspiracy. They spend all their time crying wolf and at some point they will be correct and few will listen because of their past record of reporting half truths. I did read the article, even though the thought of taking them serious gave me Ebola symptoms, and on one hand it makes sense and on the other, it doesn't make sense.

Obama doesn't want the borders closed so it makes sense to hide Ebola victims. However, if that is the case, why didn't they hide the doctor in NYC? Talk about a panic in the making! I have always wondered how the Duncan family and friends could possibly managed not to get sick so from that standpoint, the article makes sense. But it would make more sense to not hide the Duncan contact illnesses because everyone knew about them and hide the doctor before he was reported.

I did check out the doctor and found lots of information on him but nothing bad. I was surprised. He does appear to add credibility to the story. I guess we just need to see how things unfold and if the Infowars article is true, it will come out.

Willow

A credible news site for you would be what?

ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, USA Today?

What?
 
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