Overnighting at a remote location. Prep level-FAIL.

Groucho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
27 ton steel box? M-1 Abrams armored fighting veehickle?
Probably a Bradly Fighting vehicle. Abrams weighs north of 60 tons. Don't know for sure. They didn't have the easy living things when I was in. We had the manly M60A1's and very scary aluminum M113's. Of course, none of us can hold a candle to Greenhart who was in the M41 which was a horse drawn tank. :lkick:
 

Bps1691

Veteran Member
In the bad ol days my dad and I would just use a piece of an old tea shirt and a piece of string.

Put the ground coffee in the cloth, make a ball out of it, tie it with a string. Fill a pot/clean old tin can/etc. with water. Get the water boiling and throw in the coffee ball. When it gets dark enough take out the bag (save it) and move the can/pot off the fire- then enjoy.

When it was all night fishing trips, after the first can/pot was getting low, we'd untie the ball, add more coffee, fill up the can with water and start over. By morning I swear you could stand a spoon straight up in the coffee cup.
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Having "camped" in a 27ton steel box for a month at a stretch, in fabulous locations like Death Valley in the summer and Germany during a record cold winter.

My threshold for roughing it includes hot n cold running water. I have the basic gear for caveman ops, but no desire to use it.

If sunrise isn't actually a mushroom cloud, I'll have coffee. Not instant, I want real coffee.



I have a long trip that will probably involve an overnight at some remote location and loaded said gear....or what I thought would be needed. Cot, fart sack, little multifuel stove, dog food, etc.

A few weeks ago I saw a camping, French press. Didn't give it much thought.

This morning it hit me, no easy way to make coffee. :lol:

I reckon there is something to be said for running your gear.

If you have a pot, water and coffee grounds, you can make coffee.
 

CELLO

Veteran Member
A few years ago I turned my E350 Ford 15 passenger van into a camper. 640 watts of solar panels on the roof. 440 amp hour battery bank and a Magnum 2000 watt inverter lets me grind coffee beans and brew coffee in my "Mr Coffee". I'm too cheap to throw away old coffee so I brew a pot and immediately turn off the pot... fresh the first day then I microwave by the cup until the pot is gone a few days later.

Old guys need the comfort!
 

Texican

Live Free & Die Free.... God Freedom Country....
There are 55 posts about coffee. Coffee is very important to lots of folks especially to TB2Kers.

Now as to instant coffee, I use Folgers Classic Roast Instant Coffee to make an 3 cup vacuum insulated drinking cup each morning. Water heats very well in the microwave, but also have a propane stove as a fall back position. The Folgers is good especially with Coffee Mate Sugar Free Chocolate Creme creamer. Have to limit coffee and sugar intake and this works seven days a week. Have four 16 ounce bottles of the Folgers instant classic roast coffee. At least a year's supply, but will be ordering more.

There are numerous cans of real to brew ground coffee also sitting on the shelves which will be used if the instant coffee is used up.

We also have a french press which makes excellent coffee.

No coffee withdrawal allowed.

Texican....
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
Trader Joes sells "Instant Coffee Packets" so does Starbucks, Folgers etc. Tried them all
the TJ's was the best, Starbucks the strongest. Folger packets was a good all-around pick.

For 45 years I worked, I drank swill, usually cold and stale. So I'm not a coffee connoisseur.

But back in the 1990's when I worked for Apple we had GOOD coffee, a Kona Gold drip that was to die for.
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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About five years ago I replaced an ancient aluminum percolator used for car camping with a GSI stainless steel 6 cup percolator. These are -very- nicely made and finished. Sturdy enough for camping and attractive enough for use at home. The six cup model is $24.95 USD at the GSI website. I got mine at a Fleet/Farm of all places.


On one camp outing with DD and three of her 20-something friends, I had the GSI percolator going on the Coleman white gas stove and they remarked that they had never seen a percolator before at all. Being food snobs, they were not thrilled at the thought of (horror!) actually boiling coffee.

The outing was saved when I let them use my Snow Peak French Press I pictured earlier on this thread.

GSI Outdoors - Stainless Stovetop Percolator (R/T 0:26)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=-RAum3chB5s&feature=emb_logo
 

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China Connection

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Moka pot
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The moka pot is a stove-top or electric coffee maker that brews coffee by passing boiling water pressurized by steam through ground coffee. Named after the Yemeni city of Mocha, it was invented by an Italian engineer named Alfonso Bialetti in 1933 and quickly became one of the staples of Italian culture. Wikipedia



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I've been reading this thread for hours now, and I'm still trying to figure out how a Troop, who served in the same Army as I did, in a Combat Arms unit who went and lived in the field as much or more than I did, can't make his own field coffee.

I am almost speechless. Almost. :p
 

medic38572

TB Fanatic
I've been reading this thread for hours now, and I'm still trying to figure out how a Troop, who served in the same Army as I did, in a Combat Arms unit who went and lived in the field as much or more than I did, can't make his own field coffee.

I am almost speechless. Almost. :p

Some one who has lost his way! But out of respect we could understand why someone from the air force couldn't do it!
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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I've been reading this thread for hours now, and I'm still trying to figure out how a Troop, who served in the same Army as I did, in a Combat Arms unit who went and lived in the field as much or more than I did, can't make his own field coffee.

I am almost speechless. Almost. :p

I didn't have a gear inspection before I left.

Missing 3 tent pegs and coffee pot. :D

The situation has been rectified, BTW.
 
I didn't have a gear inspection before I left.

Missing 3 tent pegs and coffee pot. :D

The situation has been rectified, BTW.

Yeah, I get it. We all become complacent about some things. I have a peculator type coffee pot like the Baron posted above, but I haven't seen it in a couple of years. It's probably stashed nest to the dry rotted (by now) rubber hose for the propane grill.
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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I've been reading this thread for hours now, and I'm still trying to figure out how a Troop, who served in the same Army as I did, in a Combat Arms unit who went and lived in the field as much or more than I did, can't make his own field coffee.

I am almost speechless. Almost. :p

The Brits have it covered,

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The British Perfected the Art of Brewing Tea Inside an Armored Vehicle

Devastating World War II ambush inspired morale-boosting tank kettle

WIB history July 18, 2017 James Simpson

There are few things more British than tea, even if it was originally a Portuguese tradition of brewing South Asian leaves. The culture of tea-drinking permeates British society—including the military.

But tea-break culture posed a big problem for the generals in charge of Britain’s armored formations. Tank crewmen had to stop and climb out of their vehicle in order to have a brew, making it difficult to safely sustain an armored advance.

The answer was the British Army boiling vessel—a built-in kettle for armored vehicles. The boiling vessel represented an urgent response to one disastrous World War II.

On June 12, 1944, just six days after Allied forces stormed the beaches of Normandy, British general Bernard Montgomery ordered the 22nd Armored Brigade to break through the faltering German line and race to the city of Caen.

The British force had already lost two Cromwell tanks to a German Panzer IV plus another Cromwell and a Stuart in the town of Livry, but on the morning of June 13, the Brits covered four miles without even glimpsing the enemy.

At 8:30 AM, they stopped for morning tea and a spot of maintenance in the crossroads town of Villers-Bocage, 18 miles from Caen.

A squadron of the 4th County of London Yeomanry proceeded to a ridge known as Point 213, a mile outside of town. The British officers held an impromptu briefing in a nearby house while the crews of the squadron’s armored vehicles began brewing tea.

Just 200 meters away, however, a German Tiger tank watched unnoticed

Tea party

The tank’s commander was Michael Wittman, a highly-decorated veteran of the Battle of Kursk. Wittman had only just completed a five-day drive from Beauvais. His 12-tank company had winnowed to just four serviceable vehicles. Despite exhaustion and shortages, Wittman immediately recognized the opportunity before him.

“I had no time to assemble my company,” he said later. “Instead, I had to act quickly, as I had to assume that the enemy had already spotted me and would destroy me where I stood. I set off with one tank and passed the order to the others not to retreat a single step but to hold their ground.”

At 9:05 AM Wittman engaged the British, destroying a Sherman Firefly—the only British tank carrying the 17-pound gun and thus the only immediate threat to the superior Tiger.

Wittman’s talented and experienced gunner Balthasar Woll continued firing on the move, picking off three parked Cromwells along the road to Point 213 before extending the one-tank rampage through Villers-Bocage, where the other three Tigers provided reinforcement.

The British were caught with their pants down, some quite literally. They scrambled into action. One Firefly crew reversed into a side-street, perfectly positioning to take on Wittman’s Tiger … only to find that the Firefly’s gunner’s seat was empty. They’d left the critical crew member behind.

Overall, the British lost 14 tanks, nine half-tracks, four gun carriers and two anti-tank guns in just the first 15 minutes of the battle.

As the most famous example of several such incidents from the North Africa and European campaigns, the Battle of Villers-Bocage highlighted the danger posed by crews having to vacate their vehicles to take a break.

n 1946, the British Medical Research Council published “A Survey of Casualties Amongst Armored Units in Northwest Europe.” It found that 37 percent of all armored regiment casualties from March 1945 until the end of the war some months later were crew members outside their vehicles.

Being confined to the inside of a tank was a smelly and claustrophobic experience. But the comforts of hot food and drink required open flames that weren’t compatible with the interiors of armored vehicles.

The boiler vessel, first fitted to the postwar Centurion tank, changed that.

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Armored brew

The Centurion design drew from the British Army’s experiences in North Africa. It went on to become one of the most ubiquitous main battle tanks, serving almost everywhere the British had any influence: Iraq, India and South Africa, to name a few countries.

The tank came fitted with a boiler vessel, or bivvie—a cuboid kettle powered by the tank’s electrics. The unit became an essential subsystem for all British Army armor. Today the Electrothermal-made “Cooking/Boiling Vessel FV706656” is fitted to all the Army’s main fighting vehicles.

The basic concept of the boiling vessel has not changed since the 1950s. The large container quickly boils and maintains the heat of a gallon of water for drinking, washing and heating tinned and retort rations.

The unit plugs directly into the vehicle. These days most armored vehicles have auxiliary generators which prevent the vessel draining the batteries.

The boiler vessel helps crews to stay in their vehicles for prolonged periods. This is especially important in chemical, biological, radiological or nuclear scenarios. It also eliminates the need for fires inside and outside vehicles—fires that pose a safety risk and could betray a unit’s location.

Most importantly, the boiling vessel is an inexpensive piece of equipment that hugely improves morale. Like the Japanese navy’s saltwater baths, it’s a minimalist morale-booster that’s especially suited to a particular culture.

It’s catching on. The U.S. Army has added boiling vessels to its Abrams tanks and Bradley fighting vehicles. And other armies across the world are doing the same. They might not be brewing tea, but they like being able to make tank crews a little bit happier and a whole lot safer, whatever their hot beverage of choice.

 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
On our excursions at "The Shelving Flats Wilderness" at Lake George, NY, Owner drinks tea for the duration. He has "Sweet & Low" for other things but doesn't use it for tea. Instead "real" sugar. He also has the little packets of "creamer" which as he says "lightens the coffee but not the mood."

I don't get coffee for the duration. Not that I get it a lot anyway. That may be to preserve my delight when coffee is actually made available to me. (Dunkin Donuts French Vanilla, Medium cup, double cream & sugar, with a snaplid open and placed on the fencepost.)

On our way back after the trip, Owner usually pulls into Dunkin Donuts to make his "transition" back to civilization. THEN I get my coffee and Boston Creme - although I think I like Apple Fritters better now. They're more money.

Dobbin
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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One thing I noticed, french press coffee does taste better.

I don't understand the chemistry of it, but it is a noticeable difference.
 

AlfaMan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Hell, go to home depot and get a power inverter for your car. Plugs into your lighter socket and costs 30 bucks. Load up your favorite electric coffee pot (or for that matter, your K cup machine) and brew away!
If we have to bug out both the K cup and Nespresso machine go in the blazer. The missus has probably 3 years of K cup coffee and a year of Nespresso Vertuo pods stuffed back. No reason to suffer bad coffee out in the rough!

For meals, get one of those military MRE heaters. Also plugs into your lighter socket. It's designed for 24 volt electrics, but does work to warm MRE's. Just takes a bit longer to heat.

Warm food and good coffee when your'e in the rough make a world of difference.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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Hell, go to home depot and get a power inverter for your car. Plugs into your lighter socket and costs 30 bucks. Load up your favorite electric coffee pot (or for that matter, your K cup machine) and brew away!
If we have to bug out both the K cup and Nespresso machine go in the blazer. The missus has probably 3 years of K cup coffee and a year of Nespresso Vertuo pods stuffed back. No reason to suffer bad coffee out in the rough!

For meals, get one of those military MRE heaters. Also plugs into your lighter socket. It's designed for 24 volt electrics, but does work to warm MRE's. Just takes a bit longer to heat.

Warm food and good coffee when your'e in the rough make a world of difference.

This was a one shot deal, for the most part. First time I've stayed on site in 9 years. Normally, I overnight in a hotel and it isn't an issue. Right now, It seemed prudent to avoid the excess contact with unknowns.

I stay on the run and can stop wherever for whatever. The last two days were 740mi, 25hrs, with 8 stops to work on raggedy-ass Generacs...and one POS Kohler. :lol:

The whole issue was having that first pot of coffee before crawling in the truck.

Or more accurately, my lack of planning for it.


It turned into a good lesson in test runs and checking your gear occasionally.
 

WanderLore

Veteran Member
Ps: sitting in the rain right now in jeep. Waiting for number 1 son, at the trail in the woods. He camps here a lot. Gonna pass off 4 dozen eggs for him and daughter and family back in the city.
He has coffee. I am glad I have chickens.
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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One thing I noticed, french press coffee does taste better.

I don't understand the chemistry of it, but it is a noticeable difference.

99% of the time I have coffee with cream and sugar.

I -will- drink coffee black only from a French Press.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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99% of the time I have coffee with cream and sugar.

I -will- drink coffee black only from a French Press.

No doubt. ^^^


Army coffee got me in the habit of a splash of milk. Now, maybe some Bailey's in winter.

Didn't even have any fake creamer this morning. Drank it black. This was with Community, breakfast blend.

It was worth the effort.


Probably not an everyday thing, but definitely more of it in the future.
 

Voortrekker

Veteran Member
Most truck stops nationally aren’t allowing people inside these days.
Not true, I am a truck driver and hit up trucks stops daily. We need to fuel and conduct other business. There is the six feeto rule and diners only have take out. Some states they may be open only if they have a drive thru (so we can take out). When truckstops close, trucks will shut down.

We can't run without fuel.
 

h_oder

Veteran Member
Went to the land this weekend. Bought some instant (figured better than nothing). Woke to DH cooking breakfast with all possible pots & pans... went without the coffee this morning. After packing up camp - in the rain - hubby asked how I was doing on the way home. My response? "I will make sure that there is a container for heating water ONLY on the next trip.,..
 

FaithfulSkeptic

Carrying the mantle of doubt
You don't need anything extra other than a small microscreen, which takes up very little space in a camp kettle kit. You put your coffee in some just boiled water, let it brew, then pour it thru the screen into your cup.
 

Walrus Whisperer

Hope in chains...
I never drank coffee till I was pregnant. Craved it, the stronger & blacker, the better. 3 days after I had my daughter, I couldn't even stand the smell let alone drink it. Now it's Lipton black tea ever since. Weird.
 
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