Obama Set To Give Tomb Of Jesus And Temple Mount To Forces Of Allah

Fisher

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OBAMA SET TO GIVE TOMB OF JESUS AND TEMPLE MOUNT TO FORCES OF ALLAH
Christianity Surrenders to Islam
Get Ready for Armageddon

Posted by thelastcrusade - August 26th, 2009
By Paul L. Williams, Ph.D.
thelastcrusade.org

The Crusades are now being conducted in reverse.

The holy war was called to free the Church of Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem from the clutches of Muslims.

Nearly one thousand years later, the Obama Administration is in the process of giving the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, the Temple Mount, and other sacred sites back to the forces of Islam.

Militant Christianity is now in full retreat.

The surrender of the sites is advocated not only by the Vatican but leading mainline Protestant denominations, including the Presbyterian Church (USA), the United Church of Christ, the United Methodist Church, the American Baptists, and the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America.

George Mitchell, Special Envoy to the Middle East, is meeting today in London with Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu to lay the foundation for the Obama Peace Plan.
 

SarahLynn

Veteran Member
When Israel has full control of the Holy Places in Jerusalem and throughout Israel, all faith groups, even Muslims, have much freer access, and Holy Places of all faiths are treated with respect. We saw how the Muslims disrespected the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem, using pages from the Bible as toilet paper, littering the church with empty alcohol bottles and cigarette butts, defacing and destroying artifacts in the church. Friends of ours who have taken tours to Israel comment on how the Muslims generally treat Christian tourists up on the Holy Mount. Israelis and others who try to visit ancient Jewish shrines and burial places are routinely attacked by Muslims.
The Holy Land belongs to Israel and they have proven that they will administer the Holy Places fairly-Israel should be put in charge of the entire land of Israel-not some international UN sponsored group.
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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When Israel has full control of the Holy Places in Jerusalem and throughout Israel, all faith groups, even Muslims, have much freer access, and Holy Places of all faiths are treated with respect. We saw how the Muslims disrespected the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem, using pages from the Bible as toilet paper, littering the church with empty alcohol bottles and cigarette butts, defacing and destroying artifacts in the church. Friends of ours who have taken tours to Israel comment on how the Muslims generally treat Christian tourists up on the Holy Mount. Israelis and others who try to visit ancient Jewish shrines and burial places are routinely attacked by Muslims.
The Holy Land belongs to Israel and they have proven that they will administer the Holy Places fairly-Israel should be put in charge of the entire land of Israel-not some international UN sponsored group.
Weren't the Muslims the ones that blew up all those ancient buddist statues a few years ago?
 

penumbra

centrist member
Wording is everything. :whistle:

Of course it's not his to give. If Israel agrees to the Obama Peace plan then it is their own undoing. Think about it. Look at what the article actually says, and what it implies, and how many people are pushing this, including the Vatican.

Israel will ultimately decide her own fate.
 

momof23goats

Has No Life - Lives on TB
yet one more of his promises. i must say, that Israel has these in their country, not in Obama's. and well, they don't think to much of him there.
HE might get into serious trouble, when he meets his maker, for all of this crap, he is trying to pull off. which i might add , hasn't been of much success at all.

Mostly every thing he has tried, has failed famously. :whistle:
 

brokenwings

Veteran Member
This is change I don't EVEN want to believe in!!! Oh my dear God in Heaven, have mercy on us. We need to stand up for Israel!!
 

mudwrench

Senior Member
This is change I don't EVEN want to believe in!!! Oh my dear God in Heaven, have mercy on us. We need to stand up for Israel!!
is nice those other christian churches have decided its alright to do this wonder if they asked the orthodox church what they thought since it has been their headquarters?????????????? the orthodox church unchanged since 33
 

Karnie

Veteran Member
There's a farm north of town that a friend has had his eye on, but it has not been on the market. I think I'll just give it to him! Thanks, Resident Obama! I'd never have thought it was this easy!
 

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Sharon

Inactive
In the report given at the link, it also says:

The surrender of the sites is advocated not only by the Vatican but leading mainline Protestant denominations, including the Presbyterian Church (USA), the United Church of Christ, the United Methodist Church, the American Baptists, and the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America.

George Mitchell, Special Envoy to the Middle East, is meeting today in London with Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu to lay the foundation for the Obama Peace Plan.


I truly have a hard time believing this report as truth. How could the Vatican, the mainline Protestant demoninations, the Presbyterian Church, the United Church of Christ, the United Methodist Church, the American Baptist and the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America all agree with this?

I'm stepping out on a limb here, but I don't believe it. I don't believe Netanyahu would agree with this either.
 

denfoote

Inactive
1 Thessalonians 5:2-4 (King James Version)

2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
 

imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
I'm stepping out on a limb here, but I don't believe it. I don't believe Netanyahu would agree with this either.

Bibi is quite the hardliner (unlike many others in his political arena) and would never agree to relinquish Jerusalem.

Netanyahu to UK: Jerusalem is Sovereign Capital of Israel

--snip--

Prime Minister Netanyahu's response made it equally clear that he was having none of it.

"Jerusalem is not a settlement. It is the sovereign capital of the State of Israel, and Israel will not accept limits on its sovereignty there," he told reporters bluntly. "We have been building in Jerusalem for 3,000 years."

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133100
 

Garryowen

TB Fanatic
I wasn't aware that Obama owned any of those sites in Israel. Of course, not knowing where he is from for certain, perhaps this is one of those things the messiah is ready to reveal at the last day.
 

Fly Girl

Veteran Member
is nice those other christian churches have decided its alright to do this wonder if they asked the orthodox church what they thought since it has been their headquarters?????????????? the orthodox church unchanged since 33
We Orthodoxers are too pre-occupied with our own scandals right now.......
 

lectrickitty

Great Great Grandma!
Didn't he say in one of his books that he would side with the Muslims?

It's not like he didn't tell us what he plans for our country. Change is not always for the better.
 

Walrus Whisperer

Hope in chains...
"When ye therefore shall see the obomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Then let them which be in Judea flee into the mountains. . . For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be" (Matthew 24: 15, 16, 21).

Oh boy.
 
yet one more of his promises. i must say, that Israel has these in their country, not in Obama's. and well, they don't think to much of him there.
HE might get into serious trouble, when he meets his maker, for all of this crap, he is trying to pull off. which i might add , hasn't been of much success at all.

Mostly every thing he has tried, has failed famously. :whistle:
It's not just Obama that will pay for this but.....all of America will pay for this. God clearly warns us what will happen if we split his land.
 
Bibi is quite the hardliner (unlike many others in his political arena) and would never agree to relinquish Jerusalem.

Netanyahu to UK: Jerusalem is Sovereign Capital of Israel

--snip--

Prime Minister Netanyahu's response made it equally clear that he was having none of it.

"Jerusalem is not a settlement. It is the sovereign capital of the State of Israel, and Israel will not accept limits on its sovereignty there," he told reporters bluntly. "We have been building in Jerusalem for 3,000 years."

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133100
This is where I am a little upset or should I be honest and say a LOT up set with Bush. Bush said he was going to move the American Embassy to Jerusalem which would then be the capital of Israel. He didn't do what he promised. McCain said the same thing during one of the debates, Obama kept his mouth shut and it was right then and there that I knew Obama wasn't going to be a friend of Israel.
 

yaya_nc78

Contributing Member
Buckle up and PRAY!

Well, folks, if I haven't been awakened before now -- I AM AWAKE NOW! If Americans only really knew, they would be on their knees praying and putting their noses as deep in the Bible as they could. Tribulation is about to be here and Jesus is coming sooner than we think, IMHO. Our country will pay for our sins of the past and Obamanation's sins as well.

God have mercy on us!
 

tiger13

Veteran Member
He has no sovereign right to the land, so it is not his to give to anyone. I do not recall him being elected as the one world dictator. Piss off Obastard
 

RJM40

Inactive
Either Netanyahu is being strong-armed, or this story is a lie. Any guesses as to which is the case?

If this happens, I wonder what our retribution will be in the US this time....
 

imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
Look for a 7 year peace agreemnet ...with BHO steering the train...

Obama Steers the Peace Train On
Analysis by Jerrold Kessel and Pierre Klochendler

JERUSALEM, Aug 27 (IPS) - It isn't formal yet, but it's bound to be soon - within the coming six weeks, Palestinians and Israelis will again be sitting down around the peace table.

That's the upshot of Wednesday's London meeting between U.S. President Barack Obama's special Middle East envoy, Senator George Mitchell, and Israeli Prime Minster Benjamin Netanyahu.

Mitchell is set to come to Jerusalem in a fortnight's time with the goal of finalising an agreement on both an Israeli settlement freeze and the consequent re-igniting of direct peace talks.

But, who's running the peace process imbroglio?

The Palestinians are highly sceptical.

Yes, we agree to a meeting between Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and Netanyahu, but that doesn't constitute the start of formal talks, is the official Palestinian position.

"What exactly will we be negotiating about," asked caustically Sufian Abu- Zaida, a prominent Palestinian official on Israel Radio. "You Israelis have laid down all the pre-conditions and you refuse to tackle the substantive issues."

Palestinian affairs analysts are even more damning about the prospects of the talks going anywhere.

"It is good to have hope. It is much better to be realistic. I fear that much of the talk about 'jump-starting' the peace process remains handicapped by relying on the same old techniques and approaches that have been tried many times and always failed," argues Rami Khoury, a leading commentator on Middle East affairs in his syndicated column.

"The determination of the Obama administration to push for an Arab-Israeli peace will go nowhere if the various initiatives and gestures by all concerned continue to dance around the central issues of the conflict, rather than to attack them head-on," Khoury cautions.

The Israeli prime minister, in contrast, is very much cock-of-the-hoop.

Netanyahu has been under sniper fire from his far-right constituency about even contemplating any kind of settlement freeze. Yet, he believes he can weather that storm, especially since he's confident he has outmanoeuvred what has until now been an unyielding U.S. demand for a total halt to settlement building.

Indeed, according to both Israeli and U.S. sources, the agreement in-the- making will not include Israeli building inside occupied East Jerusalem, and that the temporary freeze - reportedly for nine months at most - on construction in the West Bank settlements will exclude some 2,500 apartments on which building has already begun.

Netanyahu aides are also parading as "success" the U.S. readiness to link Israel's "concession" on settlements to a more resolute U.S.-led Western effort to curb Iran's nuclear programme.

This buoyancy on the part of the Israeli leader has exacerbated Palestinian and Arab fears that, when the talks do get under way, it will again be Israel calling the shots, not the U.S.

Says one Palestinian spokesperson, requesting anonymity: "I just hope this is not a repeat of the Camp David debacle" (the fruitless attempt by former U.S. president Bill Clinton in 2000 to negotiate a Palestinian-Israeli settlement which ended in failure, with Palestinians charging that Clinton had allowed Israel's then leader, Ehud Barak, to try to railroad them into an unacceptable deal).

But is the Israeli tail really wagging the U.S. dog once more, as Palestinians have long charged, especially during the eight-year peace paralysis under the Bush Administration?

On the face of it, there may indeed be similarities to previous U.S.-mediated peace initiatives. Still, the current drive does hold out realistic hope that, this time, things may take a different turn and be more attuned not only to Israeli security needs, but also to Palestinian national needs:

- Eventually, the settlement freeze might fall some way short of what Obama had originally insisted. This is, however, the first time ever that the U.S. has managed to make peace talks absolutely conditional on an Israeli policy shift on the arch-symbol of Occupation, and, what's more, by the most ultra- nationalist government Israel has ever had.

- Even though Netanyahu insists Israeli sovereignty over the whole of Jerusalem cannot be compromised, what Israel does in the occupied part of the city is now under more rigorous scrutiny than ever.

- Because of Obama's insistence, Netanyahu has already given way - albeit grudgingly - on the vision of a two-state solution as the only way to reach a just peace. Nor has U.S. contempt for the iniquity of continued occupation been fuzzed, as it often was by past Administrations.

- Concern for Palestinian human security has been given equal status with consideration of Israel's security.

- The U.S. is not content with an innocuous dance around confidence- building measures for its own sake, or with dealing with spurious questions over which side needs first to fulfil its obligations before serious negotiations can begin.

- The U.S. is committed, as the Palestinians insist, that talks immediately tackle the core issues - borders, refugees and Jerusalem. The U.S. is also unlikely to be swayed by Netanyahu's demand that he will not accept the other core issues on the table unless the Palestinians accept Israel's identity as a Jewish state (Israeli exclusion of the possibility of any refugees being allowed to return to within its borders).

- Most significantly, the Obama approach is comprehensive and all- embracing. Obama is the first U.S. leader to embrace the Arab League peace initiative of 2002 so that getting Israelis and Palestinians to live in peace constitutes the foundation of a total regional peace. Camp David came unstuck in the reluctance of the Arab world to support a separate Palestinian-Israeli peace.

There have been timetables in previous U.S.-brokered peace plans. But when Washington now talks of realistically seeking a full peace within two years, it sounds anything but idle talk.

What is even more encouraging is the lack of fanfare with which the U.S. is tying together the knots of a comprehensive strategy. Its prospects may even be enhanced if the President's renowned high-flown rhetoric is kept further under wraps.

The onus is still on the U.S. to prove that it is up to the task of translating this into practical dividends.

But, even at this early stage, there is less cause for Palestinian pessimism. And, collaterally, less reason for Netanyahu's over-arching confidence.

Until proven otherwise, Obama is still driving this peace train. (END/2009)

http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=48238
 
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