Obama Mentions "Reparations"

American Rage

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Obama notes ‘tragic’ US past
American history's "sad" aspects require action, the senator tells cheering journalists
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By Laurie Au
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CHICAGO » Sen. Barack Obama, speaking to a gathering of minority journalists yesterday, stopped short of endorsing an official U.S. apology to American Indians but said the country should acknowledge its history of poor treatment of certain ethnic groups.

"There's no doubt that when it comes to our treatment of Native Americans as well as other persons of color in this country, we've got some very sad and difficult things to account for," Obama told hundreds of attendees of UNITY '08, a convention of four minority journalism associations.

The Hawaii-born senator, who has told local reporters that he supports the federal recognition bill for native Hawaiians drafted by U.S. Sen. Daniel Akaka, noted other ethnic groups but did not mention native Hawaiians when answering a question about his thoughts on a formal U.S. apology to American Indians.

"I personally would want to see our tragic history, or the tragic elements of our history, acknowledged," the Democratic presidential hopeful said.

"I consistently believe that when it comes to whether it's Native Americans or African-American issues or reparations, the most important thing for the U.S. government to do is not just offer words, but offer deeds."

Obama, who appeared tired in his first major appearance since returning Saturday from a 10-day trip abroad, met with a receptive audience at the Chicago convention. Some journalists had waited three hours for the 40-minute appearance.

The group had expected Obama and Sen. John McCain to speak on Thursday night, but because of scheduling conflicts, only Obama could attend yesterday morning's talk.

When Obama walked on stage at the McCormick Center, many journalists in the audience leapt to their feet and applauded enthusiastically after being told not to do so. During a two-minute break halfway through the event, which was broadcast live on CNN, journalists ran to the stage to snap photos of Obama.

The Illinois senator talked about his trip overseas, reiterating his opinion that violence is down in Iraq but worsening in Afghanistan. And he expressed his approval of the Senate's passage of a major housing bill to help homeowners avert foreclosure.

Obama, who acknowledged that he needed a nap, stood up to say farewell to the audience of journalists, many of whom gave him another standing ovation.
 

mzkitty

I give up.
Wah, wah wah.......... try being a woman in the workforce all these years.

PAY ME!!! I want REPARATIONS!!! I want them NOW!!!! You all OWE ME!!!


:rolleyes:
 

mbo

Membership Revoked
If you're a narcissistic liberal white, with deep-seated guilt, you're gonna just swoon for Obama.




CNN, NBC, ABC, and CBS proves that point every day.

"During a two-minute break halfway through the event, which was broadcast live on CNN, journalists ran to the stage to snap photos of Obama."

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mbo

Membership Revoked
Of anything that the Federal Government would blow my money on, a single penny spent for "Reparations" would be the most infuriating.


"I consistently believe that when it comes to whether it's Native Americans or African-American issues or reparations, the most important thing for the U.S. government to do is not just offer words, but offer deeds." - Obama


Obama, go screw yourself. :smkd:



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Laurane

Canadian Loonie
Can I say it????

the white 1/2 will cancel out the black 1/2 (is that right?) - so Obama doesn't qualify for reparations. :whistle:
 

NoPlugsNM

Deceased
African governments SOLD their citizens to the slave traders, they should be who pays reparations, it began with them. The actual amount of black population in America today immigrated into the US after the slaves were freed. There are only a few families who are descendents of the origional slaves.

As far as the American Indians, currently the US gov pays them each and every month individually. Their lifestyles are subsidized no differently than those on the welfare roles except the amount is much greater per household/individual. Their reservations are some of the most valuable properties any one group or individual could own, and they prosper financially from their casinos and other endeavors, which I might add, is not calculated into their subsidy incomes.

If we are just considering how the American Indian lives, their low to moderate housing is their choice. It is certainly a peg up from the tee pee that they seem to prefer. I live near a reservation, most have very nice manufactured homes and they have built very nice apartment complexes, all their housing has been funded by the gov/tax dollars. As I see it we have continually been paying the American Indians reparations.

NP
 

Spenglerist

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An interesting observation of the Indians in California is their proclivity for starting wildfires so they can earn extra money working as firefighters.

Apparently the State welfare checks are not sufficient to keep them boozed up.
 

mbo

Membership Revoked
the white 1/2 will cancel out the black 1/2 (is that right?) - so Obama doesn't qualify for reparations. :whistle:



Oabama's ancestors were slave-traders, not slaves. He has no ancestors in the U.S. during either the Civil War or the Jim Crow decades. His "African" ancestors were from the Sudan, who traded in slaves captured from other regions of Africa.


He's a Leninist.


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topcat46

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Good quote

This was posted over at Lawrence Auster's site which I thought was quite good:

"Quote of the week, maybe of the year…
… by a commenter at Lucianne.com. It was made in response to Barack Obama’s comment to minority journalists, “There’s no doubt that when it comes to our treatment of Native Americans as well as other persons of color in this country, we’ve got some very sad and difficult things to account for.”

Reply 1—Posted by: djmed, 7/29/2008 5:16:15 PM
Let’s quit feeling guilty about stuff that happened before any of our grandparents were born and concentrate on the people that want us dead now."
 

American Rage

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An interesting observation of the Indians in California is their proclivity for starting wildfires so they can earn extra money working as firefighters.

Apparently the State welfare checks are not sufficient to keep them boozed up.

In Oklahoma, they like to buy brand new cars and take them to the reservation. When they quit paying for them, the dealership has no recourse b/c the vehicle is on indian land and can't be repossessed.


Rage
 

Oilpatch Hand

3-Bomb General, TB2K Army
the white 1/2 will cancel out the black 1/2 (is that right?) - so Obama doesn't qualify for reparations. :whistle:


That's one way to view it. Another might be that Obama himself doesn't qualify for reparations because he is not descended from slaves. His father was Kenyan, with no known slave ancestry. His mother was a Caucasian from Kansas, also with no known slave ancestry.

Looks like the only thing Barack Hussein Mohammed Obama would be eligible for in the way of slavery reparations would be paying them. :lkick:
 

NoPlugsNM

Deceased
I always find my thoughts drifting to places that no one seems to acknowledge - the US has pretty much gone broke taking care of OHTER PEOPLES PROBLEMS instead of shoring up their peoples and countrys needs.

The US threw open the barn door for corporations to move into a world-like economy, utilizing cheap labor to make enormous profits off the US citizens, gaing great coffers, but did nothing for the countrys backbone - just broke it.

All of our 'leadership' profits from their corporate investments, profits from their 'special deals' - why would our leadership move to change a thing? Truth is, they would shoot themselves in the foot and certainly not continue their cushy lifestyles if they actually represented the people in the manner they were elected to perform.

Unfortunately, all those drifting thoughts of mine don't seem to be thoughts that enter the dendrite realms of the majority, even the minority who can read the writing on the wall cannot get these points across well enough to perpetrate change. Such a shame that this great freedom loving nation of people cannot do what is necessary to keep their freedoms alive.

NP
 

mbabulldog

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damn, I know this is going to sound racist no matter how I present it, but I have to throw this out there:

OK, let's say this whole stinking pile o'political BS gets approved. Now, all "persons of color" will have to prove their lineage and family tree back to the days of slavery. With all the inner-city youth and multi-generations of same not even knowing who their fathers (or in some cases, mothers) are, how the devil are they going to file a claim???
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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I'll say it again - the day that slave reparations get authorized by the government is the LAST DAY I will ever pay federal income taxes. I'll gladly burn all my possessions and go to prison before I'll ever pay another dime to them.
 

Worrier King

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I'll say it again - the day that slave reparations get authorized by the government is the LAST DAY I will ever pay federal income taxes. I'll gladly burn all my possessions and go to prison before I'll ever pay another dime to them.

I'm down with that. I have the exact same thought's and will even consider starting to milk the IRS.

You set your dependents to 4 or 5 and they withhold minimal taxes. Then let it be up to them to expend resources tracking you down and catching you, fust as one of thier tactics is to break people with legal fee's, etc.

May the dem/repubs and their supporters enjoy the flames of hell for the Mammon they have witlessly obeyed and served.
 

mbo

Membership Revoked
I'll say it again - the day that slave reparations get authorized by the government is the LAST DAY I will ever pay federal income taxes. I'll gladly burn all my possessions and go to prison before I'll ever pay another dime to them.

It won't be a check - the government knows there would be an uprising over that.

It will come in different forms.

It will be called different things...

"Urban Renewal" / "21stCenturyCities Education" (free college for the urban set) / "Housing Renaissances" (free housing or mortgages if you live in desginated zones and are of a certain color) / Zero or no cost loans to the diversity crowd, etc.


All of those programs will of course cost billions upon billions, and not a dime would be available to you or your family, but you're really not supposed to know that.


Just keep paying your taxes and fees. :whistle:

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Worrier King

Deceased
damn, I know this is going to sound racist no matter how I present it, but I have to throw this out there:

OK, let's say this whole stinking pile o'political BS gets approved. Now, all "persons of color" will have to prove their lineage and family tree back to the days of slavery. With all the inner-city youth and multi-generations of same not even knowing who their fathers (or in some cases, mothers) are, how the devil are they going to file a claim???

They won't make them prove diddly. All your going to need is dark skin.

And who cares if anyone sounds racist anymore, anyone who thinks they aren't prejudiced is fooling themselves.

I've noticed that the most "pro-black" white folk find themselves very uncomfortable when they are actually put into a black hood, or among large numbers of blacks.

Yes there are a lot of decent black folk and it will be sad if your skin color becomes your uniform.
 

Oilpatch Hand

3-Bomb General, TB2K Army
damn, I know this is going to sound racist no matter how I present it, but I have to throw this out there:

OK, let's say this whole stinking pile o'political BS gets approved. Now, all "persons of color" will have to prove their lineage and family tree back to the days of slavery. With all the inner-city youth and multi-generations of same not even knowing who their fathers (or in some cases, mothers) are, how the devil are they going to file a claim???



Yes, that's going to be a problem.

For the would-be claimants.












The statement first quoted above has been reviewed by the Politically Correct Police, and its content has been found to be merely impolitic, but not necessarily racist. :lkick:
 

American Rage

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damn, I know this is going to sound racist no matter how I present it, but I have to throw this out there:

OK, let's say this whole stinking pile o'political BS gets approved. Now, all "persons of color" will have to prove their lineage and family tree back to the days of slavery. With all the inner-city youth and multi-generations of same not even knowing who their fathers (or in some cases, mothers) are, how the devil are they going to file a claim???

I doubt it. They'll claim that we stole Africa's greatest resource, its children, and thus we owe all Africans equally. African will be defined as having 25 % or greater African DNA. And whether they came here 500 years or 5 months ago, we will owe them equally. But that's just my conjecture.

rage
 

pixmo

Bucktoothed feline member
Based on what I've read here, at other places and the responses I've heard in meatworld, this could be the fuel to start a civil war, IMO.

Unless people are just talking...guess time will tell. Hope this never sees the light of day so I won't have to find out :shk:
 

Mark Armstrong

Veteran Member
B.O. is getting amazingly confident to even hint at reparations this early, before the election, before the official nomination even.
 

Mark Armstrong

Veteran Member
But then again, I guess he has to bring up reparations in at least a vague sort of way before the election, so he can claim to have a mandate for it after the election.
 

Hermit

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I wouldn't mind reparations .... as long as they're balancing out black slavery reparations with the vast amounts of extra tax money that has to be sunk into the criminal justice system to arrest, try, convict, and imprison blacks, compared to all other races.

The way I figure it, they would owe us all hundreds of times what we owe them. :)
 

Scotsman

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...."I personally would want to see our tragic history, or the tragic elements of our history, acknowledged," the Democratic presidential hopeful said.

Acknowledged?!?!

Oh aye, I suppose the minority rights, the black history month, affirmative action, and reserved college seats aren't "acknowledgement" for Senator Obama.

:kk2: :smkd: :stfu:

Good God above....how I hate that "man"....
 

Harbinger

Veteran Member
CHICAGO » Sen. Barack Obama, speaking to a gathering of minority journalists yesterday, stopped short of endorsing an official U.S. apology to American Indians but said the country should acknowledge its history of poor treatment of certain ethnic groups.

Except the poor treatments of caucasion....ri i i ight...we aren't an ethnic people!

"There's no doubt that when it comes to our treatment of Native Americans as well as other persons of color in this country, we've got some very sad and difficult things to account for," Obama told hundreds of attendees of UNITY '08, a convention of four minority journalism associations.

Uh huh!....we are not acknowledged as people of color.... interesting...indians, chinese, hispanics and of course blacks...er I mean...."african americans" "are people of color"..and there for we don't have rights like others do...Oh ok! We hear you loud and clear!

The Hawaii-born senator,(that remains to be seen..since there is no proof of origin!)] who has told local reporters that he supports the federal recognition bill for native Hawaiians drafted by U.S. Sen. Daniel Akaka, noted other ethnic groups but did not mention native Hawaiians when answering a question about his thoughts on a formal U.S. apology to American Indians.


"I personally would want to see our tragic history, or the tragic elements of our history, acknowledged," the Democratic presidential hopeful said.

Uh huh!....Acknowledged but not willing to put a stop to it! The criteria is still the same just different playing pieces in the game. Its now those who have "no color, or ethnic back ground" (Caucasians) that are being dehumanized...killed, raped, slandered, etc. We hear you loud and clear!


"I consistently believe that when it comes to whether it's Native Americans or African-American issues or reparations, the most important thing for the U.S. government to do is not just offer words, but offer deeds."


To every one but ....the "non colored race, citizens of the U.S!" That's right...Every one else deserve help acknowledgment...and kind words...but not us! Yeah! The running democratic presidential candidate can't even have a nice thing to say to the "Non colored race! Thanks for nothing!



We here you loud and clear obamantion of desolation... We are no longer a color, a race, nor have ethnic back ground or rights...Those who are European decent, we are the others!

Gee are we even considered people by the ""people of colored races""


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NoPlugsNM

Deceased
My family has already paid reparations without even being 'owners' or 'participants' in slave trade, they fought for the slaves freedoms in the civil war.

Maybe I need to seek reparations for the value of the lives of my family members, seems to me to have been a lost cause as now via taxes, etc I will become a slave to the bill.

Just because someone is 'black' and living in the US today does not make them entitled to reparations - or has no one told them they may not be a 'decendant' of a slave, color/race does not justify that assumption.

NP
 

Aardaerimus

Anunnaku
Obama, you idiot...

There is no better way to CREATE racial tension and hatered than by holding accountable individuals who were not even present and are in no way responsible for the actions of their ancestors.

You want white people to hate black people? Just make them pay for crimes they never committed... Stealing from a white person to appease a black person is no way to bridge racial divides and generate unity.
 

Ravekid

Veteran Member
I'll say it again - the day that slave reparations get authorized by the government is the LAST DAY I will ever pay federal income taxes. I'll gladly burn all my possessions and go to prison before I'll ever pay another dime to them.

Why harm yourself in that way? It would be a much better idea to just make some extra money on the side and not pay income taxes on that money. You make some extra cash, you get a nice hourly rate because you don't pay taxes either. Plus, you let all these other liberal fools pay their "fair share." Do this until the amount of income tax you _should_ have paid is equal to that of the reparation.
 

fruit loop

Inactive
Yeah, same here. No taxes if they go to "reparations".

My great-great-great-great-grandmother died on a death march called the Trail of Tears. Pay HER, not me. Go get a job and make your own living, like I do.
 

Mr. Mason

Membership Revoked
My family has already paid reparations without even being 'owners' or 'participants' in slave trade, they fought for the slaves freedoms in the civil war.

That's not good enough...

Our grandfather's and father's also paid the 6 trillion spent on social programs, enough to have written a check for a million dollars to every black person in the United States, but that's not good enough either.
 
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