Obama: Forget The Difference Between Capitalism And Communism, "Just Decide What Works"

[Housecarl]

Un-bloody believable....

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Obama: Forget The Difference Between Capitalism And Communism, "Just Decide What Works"

By Tim Hains
Posted on March 25, 2016
Comments 102

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"So often in the past there has been a division between left and right, between capitalists and communists or socialists, and especially in the Americas, that’s been a big debate," Obama said during a visit to Argentina Thursday. "Oh, you know, you're a capitalist Yankee dog, and oh, you know, you're some crazy communist that's going to take away everybody's property."

"Those are interesting intellectual arguments, but I think for your generation, you should be practical and just choose from what works. You don’t have to worry about whether it really fits into socialist theory or capitalist theory. You should just decide what works," he added. "And I said this to President Castro in Cuba."

PRESIDENT OBAMA: I guess to make a broader point, so often in the past there's been a sharp division between left and right, between capitalist and communist or socialist. And especially in the Americas, that's been a big debate, right? Oh, you know, you're a capitalist Yankee dog, and oh, you know, you're some crazy communist that's going to take away everybody's property. And I mean, those are interesting intellectual arguments, but I think for your generation, you should be practical and just choose from what works. You don't have to worry about whether it neatly fits into socialist theory or capitalist theory -- you should just decide what works.

And I said this to President Castro in Cuba. I said, look, you've made great progress in educating young people. Every child in Cuba gets a basic education -- that's a huge improvement from where it was. Medical care -- the life expectancy of Cubans is equivalent to the United States, despite it being a very poor country, because they have access to health care. That's a huge achievement. They should be congratulated. But you drive around Havana and you say this economy is not working. It looks like it did in the 1950s. And so you have to be practical in asking yourself how can you achieve the goals of equality and inclusion, but also recognize that the market system produces a lot of wealth and goods and services. And it also gives individuals freedom because they have initiative.

And so you don't have to be rigid in saying it’s either this or that, you can say -- depending on the problem you're trying to solve, depending on the social issues that you're trying to address what works. And I think that what you’ll find is that the most successful societies, the most successful economies are ones that are rooted in a market-based system, but also recognize that a market does not work by itself. It has to have a social and moral and ethical and community basis, and there has to be inclusion. Otherwise it’s not stable.

And it’s up to you -- whether you're in business or in academia or the nonprofit sector, whatever you're doing -- to create new forms that are adapted to the new conditions that we live in today.

 

[tiger13]

As long as that ****** gets to party on somebodies dime, he could care less what he says. This f#cker is on crack, perhaps he will overdose some day very very soon.

 

[Nowski]

He is bottom line, a POS ******.

What he said, is exactly what a POS ****** would say. What he said, is exactly the
way that it is, in the jungles of Africa.

You work your tail off, to advance in life, based on a capitalistic system,
and a ****** comes along and takes it, based on the communist system.
That's your inclusion. It is not stable, because the ****** knows nothing but
absolute destruction, violence, and mayhem.

At least he is consistent, have to give him that.

Regards to all,
Nowski

 

[Jeff B.]

This guy is an idiot. He ignores all the minor details like property rights and individual rights...

But then, some of us were pretty sure about that eight or nine years ago and have had our suspicions confirmed for the last seven

Jeff B.

 

[Adino]

no problemo, decision made

capitalism in its pure form works every single time

communism in its pure form fails every single time

pure capitalism (w/ all the cronies in the current system thrown in jail) is chosen

you're fired

 

[JF&P]

He's a "Programmed" Illuminati pawn.....Marxism is in his blood.

 

[Blacknarwhal]

no problemo, decision made

capitalism in its pure form works every single time

communism in its pure form fails every single time

pure capitalism (w/ all the cronies in the current system thrown in jail) is chosen

you're fired

I'll just leave this here....

 

[marsh]

He's a short timer. He makes no qualms about expressing his Marxist beliefs and bragging about the changes he has made to eliminate individual and property rights and bring us closer to the communist model with an elite party class. His foreign policy (and Clinton's) inflames and uses Islamo-fascists and extremists to increase the wealth of neocons and the resulting diaspora in the region to destroy Western European democratic culture and society.

 

[Hfcomms]

Actually, although I hate to admit it Obama is partially correct here.

Obama: Forget The Difference Between Capitalism And Communism, "Just Decide What Works"


What 'passes' for Capitalism in today's world is little different from Communism, isn't it? You take Capitalism from say 50 or 75 years ago and compare that to Communism and there was a huge difference. Today, not so much as the meaning of Capitalism has morphed and is now cronyism and Fascism. With our markets all manipulated and controlled, with our Constitution relegated to mere lip service are we really Capitalists with free markets today? I think not.

 

[West]

Actually, although I hate to admit it Obama is partially correct here.

Obama: Forget The Difference Between Capitalism And Communism, "Just Decide What Works"


What 'passes' for Capitalism in today's world is little different from Communism, isn't it? You take Capitalism from say 50 or 75 years ago and compare that to Communism and there was a huge difference. Today, not so much as the meaning of Capitalism has morphed and is now cronyism and Fascism. With our markets all manipulated and controlled, with our Constitution relegated to mere lip service are we really Capitalists with free markets today? I think not.

Yeah, (just add for those that don't know) any business that has employees in the USA has to have a FEINumber, and should be incorporated for liability reasons, this means that the employer/corporation is responsible to collect all of the income taxes and mandated payroll liabilities for every hour a employee works and pay the cost to stay compliant.

So in a nut shell...Every employee gets to take home only 1/3 +- of their total labor cost, 2/3rds plus goes to the government and other government bureaucracies. The government gets the majority of your labors. Add the fact that what little pay one does get to take home, gets taxed again and again when one buys things.

 

[raven]

Actually, although I hate to admit it Obama is partially correct here.

Obama: Forget The Difference Between Capitalism And Communism, "Just Decide What Works"

What 'passes' for Capitalism in today's world is little different from Communism, isn't it? You take Capitalism from say 50 or 75 years ago and compare that to Communism and there was a huge difference. Today, not so much as the meaning of Capitalism has morphed and is now cronyism and Fascism. With our markets all manipulated and controlled, with our Constitution relegated to mere lip service are we really Capitalists with free markets today? I think not.

Ultimately, there is always capitalism . . . because it is the only economic system that actually works. It is over this core economic layer that all forms of governance are overlaid. What is interesting is that while capitalism is the only thing that works, there are so few people that choose to exercise the principles of capitalism.
Most people choose the easy life of either slavery or employment

 

[Meadowlark]

He's a short timer. He makes no qualms about expressing his Marxist beliefs and bragging about the changes he has made to eliminate individual and property rights and bring us closer to the communist model with an elite party class. His foreign policy (and Clinton's) inflames and uses Islamo-fascists and extremists to increase the wealth of neocons and the resulting diaspora in the region to destroy Western European democratic culture and society.

I would go so far as to call it a Freudian slip, revealing his true self.

 

[Meadowlark]

Ultimately, there is always capitalism . . . because it is the only economic system that actually works. It is over this core economic layer that all forms of governance are overlaid. What is interesting is that while capitalism is the only thing that works, there are so few people that choose to exercise the principles of capitalism.
Most people choose the easy life of either slavery or employment

We have not been practicing the Adam Smith model of capitalism for decades. We have turned into an oligarchich kleptocracy.

 

[raven]

We have not been practicing the Adam Smith model of capitalism for decades. We have turned into an oligarchich kleptocracy.

Capitalism is always practiced.
Oligarchic Kleptocracy is simply the form of governance that we in America prefer - it is the form of slavery the will of the people have chosen.

 

[dstraito]

Un-bloody believable....

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Obama: Forget The Difference Between Capitalism And Communism, "Just Decide What Works"

By Tim Hains
Posted on March 25, 2016
Comments 102

Video
https://youtu.be/BadFTesAPzY

"So often in the past there has been a division between left and right, between capitalists and communists or socialists, and especially in the Americas, that’s been a big debate," Obama said during a visit to Argentina Thursday. "Oh, you know, you're a capitalist Yankee dog, and oh, you know, you're some crazy communist that's going to take away everybody's property."

"Those are interesting intellectual arguments, but I think for your generation, you should be practical and just choose from what works. You don’t have to worry about whether it really fits into socialist theory or capitalist theory. You should just decide what works," he added. "And I said this to President Castro in Cuba."

Standard Communist Manifesto stuff. Dilute the culture, laws, values and mores of the culture you want to take over. Blend the lines between the what is and what you want it to be. Be patient, don't try to dictate the change as an immediate all or nothing event but erode, press and nudge for decades until you get the minds of the people brainwashed in your favor.


This will not end well.

 

[Dozdoats]

I read the thread title, and thought, NO ONE could be stupid enough to say such a thing who just got home from freaking CUBA.

And then I remembered it was Commandante Zero.

 

[China Connection]

Neither system works because neither system works true to its principles. Both systems allow those at the top to bleed the system to death.

What does China and the U.S. have in common???? Huge unpayable debt.

 

[duffer]

He is bottom line, a POS ******.

What he said, is exactly what a POS ****** would say. What he said, is exactly the
way that it is, in the jungles of Africa.

You work your tail off, to advance in life, based on a capitalistic system,
and a ****** comes along and takes it, based on the communist system.
That's your inclusion. It is not stable, because the ****** knows nothing but
absolute destruction, violence, and mayhem.

At least he is consistent, have to give him that.

Regards to all,
Nowski

True about Barry. That's one reason why I don't care if Hillary gets to be President, because she'll have to live with the knowledge that the elite

only gave her the job after they'd previously given it to a smirking strutting negroidal.