POL November 3: The 2020 U.S. ELECTION DAY MAIN THREAD

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Welcome AMERICA To the Venezuela Election Experience

By Elda Primera
Published November 18, 2020 at 12:32pm

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In principle, when it comes to fraudulent elections, Venezuelans have an experience that should be unrepeatable for other nations.

The terrible Venezuelan experience keeps millions of people subject to an oppressive regime that makes them live on the edge of misery with human rights violations of all kinds. The free and fair elections in Venezuela are predetermined, and the fair and free vote is little more than another false promise from a Socialist syndicate.

In 1998 the late Hugo Chavez won a disputed National Presidential election with 56.2% of the vote, then was reelected in 2000 with 58.2% of the vote, survived a recall referendum in 2004 with 59.25% support, and was reelected again in 2006 with 62.8%, before winning a fourth term in 2012 with only 55.1% of the vote.

Before being sworn into office on January 10, 2013, Hugo Chavez died of cancer, and vice president Nicolas Maduro assumed office as a special presidential election was to be held. In this election Nicolas Maduro suspiciously won by 1.5%, narrowly defeating a center-right candidate Henrique Capriles Radonski (later formerly banished from holding any political office for 15 years due to insubordination in regards to failing to acknowledge Nicolas Maduro’s legitimate election victory).

In the Venezuelan experience, once a President wins an election under suspicious circumstances, it seems the politico stays in power for life, and the party stays in power forever.

Smartmatic electric voting systems was founded by three Venezuelan engineers and incorporated in Delaware. Smartmatic established its headquarters in Boca Raton, Florida. The Miami Herald has reported that the Government of Venezuela may own up to 28% of Smartmatic, through an acquisition of another company named Bizta, and operated by two of the same owners of Smartmatic. Other reports say Bizta has repurchased those shares from Smartmatic. Regardless, Smartmatic and Bizta partnered with Venezuela telephone giant CANTV to supply Venezuela with voting machines and software as far back as 2004.

Venezuela’s laws were established, in fairness, before the Hugo Chavez election. The laws stated automated voting was required in its Venezuela national election. Smartmatic was one of several firms that retrofitted gambling machines into electronic voting booths. Smartmatic was a little known firm, with virtually no experience in voting technology, with financial backing from the socialist government, and was selected as the vendor shortly before Hugo Chavez survived a very contentious recall referendum.

In elections that lack integrity, public sentiment does not reflect the outcome, and it seems as though the winning party continues to always win elections by increasing margins, providing even greater mandates for more power, regardless of the public sentiment.

The political Enrique Aristeguieta says in every election and especially in Venezuela, if you vote electronically, massive fraud is possible. In his opinion, electronic voting should be prohibited unless it is absolutely shielded.

Aristeguieta is confident that the truth will emerge eventually, but perhaps not soon.

The Smartmatic controversies
The Smartmatic company participated in 14 elections in Venezuela, installing more than half a million voting machines and processing more than 377 million totally controversial votes.

In Venezuela, deputy Julio Borges denounced that the system did not prevent irregularities during the recall referendum. However, the process was validated by international observers. Though it is unclear if the International Observers had the education and technological knowledge to observe software irregularities in the voting machines.

Losing candidates in the Philippines, another country Smartmatic has produced disputed results, also denounced fraud in elections managed irregularly by Smartmatic. In addition, Smartmatic was denounced in 2019 in Argentina for voting errors and inconsistent results.

However, in the constituent elections held in 2017, it was the first time that the company came into conflict with the Venezuelan authorities.

The Venezuelan company Smartmatic was accused of having close ties to the late Hugo Chávez by the opposition to the current Maduro regime. Perhaps it was the relationship with Chavez Venezuelan government that led Smartmatic to distance themselves to access new markets. It should be noted that Antonio Mugica CEO of Smartmatic declared inconsistent results in Venezuela after the elections.

Smartmatic vs Dominion
According to the attorney and international analyst, Giulio Cellini, the accusations made in the United States by President Trump regarding the possibility of fraud are concerning. In Cellini’s view, this is not a massive fraud but rather eventual irregularities that could constitute fraud if proven in some states.

Cellini says that these irregularities may invalidate the election in terms of credibility. They may define the number of votes that could be legitimate, or illegitimate. There is a lack of transparency, and questions are not definitively answered.

The American election system has had no criticism, or objection, from any sector in the recent past, and this lack of trust today is risky for democracy going into the future.

In other words, Cellini says that the presentation of evidence should be exhibited because these accusations can be harmful to democracy. If fraud can be proven, it would be a bad indicator, and he hopes that the complaints are unfounded, because the credibility of the institutions are involved.

Regarding Smartmatic, he was in the United States as an international observer participating in the presidential primaries in a State Department Program. Cellini says that in Los Angeles County the voting system they use is Smartmatic with Dominion machines.

Cellini says the Smartmatic and Dominion software made a great impression on him despite the Venezuelan experience. Given the concern, officials informed Cellini that Smartmatic had successfully bid the contract and provides the software on the Dominion machines.

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WELCOME AMERICA: TO THE VENEZUELA ELECTION EXPERIENCE.


Journalist José Robles considers President Trump’s position legitimate, and feels strongly that President Trump has the right to express his disagreement with a fraud. Unusual conditions questionable situations, and inconsistent reporting, as have been reported.

The case of the United States is closely related to Smartmatic because it is directly involved with Dominion machines. It is important to remember that this company has been the main provider of services in the Venezuelan electoral processes.

There is evidence that in the Venezuelan elections of thousands of votes from deceased people and people who appear to vote multiple times with different names. The results that do not reflect the reality of the populationy. For Robles, it has been said that Smartmatic was created precisely to fix elections.

While, Robles says that this situation could constitute a severe blow to democracy and American institutions, he does not underestimate the position of President Trump if he manages to prove the fraud. The election could be manipulated and hacked. It is an ongoing investigation.

Finally, beyond the candidates, citizens expect transparent results. It must be ensured that the truth prevails, and that citizens defend their right to free, fair, and transparent elections.

Otherwise, we would be facing a terrible result for the strongest democracy in the world, and it would be the largest attack perpetrated in the nation that is a beacon for freedom to the entire world.
 

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HAPPENING NOW: Alex Jones Leading Crowd of Trump Supporters Storming Georgia State Capitol (VIDEO)

By Cassandra Fairbanks
Published November 18, 2020 at 12:41pm

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Alex Jones is currently leading a group of Trump supporters who have stormed the Georgia State Capitol to “Stop the Steal.”


Jones spoke outside prior to entering the building with Republican operative Ali Alexander and America First host Nick Fuentes.
Watch @ali‘s broadcast:StopTheSteal.US patriots take the Georgia Gold Dome w/ Alex Jones! #StopTheStealAli @AliScopes
— Joe Palmer ✘ (@JoeSPalmer) November 18, 2020
“We’ve got to do whatever it takes. If we lose this, we’ve lost the Republic,” Alexander told the crowd inside the Capitol.
Alex Jones, Ali Alexander and Nick Fuentes are preparing to ‘Storm the Capitol’ here in Atlanta #Atlanta #Georgia #StopTheSteaI pic.twitter.com/i9pqrGStw2
— Brendan Gutenschwager (@BGOnTheScene) November 18, 2020
Alex Jones is leading the crowd of Trump supporters into the Georgia State Capitol now #Atlanta #Georgia #Elections2020 pic.twitter.com/ufCkjKLINS
— Brendan Gutenschwager (@BGOnTheScene) November 18, 2020
Inside the Georgia State Capitol now, with Alex Jones leading the group of Trump supporters as they file in past security #Atlanta #Georgia #Georgians pic.twitter.com/nQeYglgRQC
— Brendan Gutenschwager (@BGOnTheScene) November 18, 2020
“America first!” chants from the crowd of hundreds of Trump supporters gathering in Atlanta #Georgia #Atlanta #Election2020 pic.twitter.com/l0q6qfgmSw
— Brendan Gutenschwager (@BGOnTheScene) November 18, 2020
As Gateway Pundit previously reported, attorney Lin Wood said he has irrefutable evidence that Georgia local election officials were instructed by the state to report original vote totals and NOT report recount totals which are different.

So far three Georgia counties have found ‘missing’ votes for President Trump in the statewide recount.

Lin Wood said he filed an emergency injunction Tuesday night against Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger.

“Relief sought includes an order prohibiting certification which includes defective absentee ballots and requiring that a hand recount be performed,” Lin Wood said in a tweet Wednesday morning.
 

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REPORT: Georgia Elections Officials Instructed by State to Report Original Vote Totals and NOT Recount Totals

By Cristina Laila
Published November 18, 2020 at 12:06pm

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GA Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger

Attorney Lin Wood said he has irrefutable evidence that Georgia local election officials were instructed by the state to report original vote totals and NOT report recount totals which are different.

So far three Georgia counties have found ‘missing’ votes for President Trump in the statewide recount.

The recount however appears to be rigged because elections officials are not checking signatures and now it is being revealed that the state is instructing officials to report original vote totals.

“I have irrefutable evidence that GA local election officials were instructed by state to report original vote totals & NOT report recount totals which are different. These people are corrupt to point of criminality. They are intentionally engaged in fraud in a federal election.” Lin Wood said.

I have irrefutable evidence that GA local election officials were instructed by state to report original vote totals & NOT report recount totals which are different.
These people are corrupt to point of criminality. They are intentionally engaged in fraud in a federal election.
— Lin Wood (@LLinWood) November 18, 2020
Lin Wood said he filed an emergency injunction Tuesday night against Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger.

“Relief sought includes an order prohibiting certification which includes defective absentee ballots and requiring that a hand recount be performed,” Lin Wood said in a tweet Wednesday morning.
Good morning.
Last night, I filed an Emergency Motion for Injunctive Relief against GA Secretary of State.
Relief sought includes an order prohibiting certification which includes defective absentee ballots & requiring that a hand recount be performed.2020-11-17 TRO Motion with Exhibits.PDF
— Lin Wood (@LLinWood) November 18, 2020
Jenny Beth Martin, the co-founder of Tea Party Patriots called elections officials in Georgia and asked whether the original vote totals or the recount numbers will be officially counted for the election.

The officials told Martin they will only certify original vote totals even if the numbers do not match the recount.

Jenny Beth Martin recorded the phone call and posted the audio to her Twitter account.
AUDIO:
BOMBSHELL: I called elections officials in Georgia to ask whether the election night numbers OR the recount numbers will be officially counted for the election.
Officials told me they will only certify election night numbers, even if the numbers do not match. pic.twitter.com/8UFTSbKs9D
— Jenny Beth Martin (@jennybethm) November 18, 2020
President Trump again on Wednesday said the Georgia recount is a joke.
“Even though thousands of fraudulent votes have been found, the real number is in matching signatures. Governor must open up the unconstitutional Consent Decree and call in the Legislature!” Trump said.
The Georgia recount is a joke and is being done UNDER PROTEST. Even though thousands of fraudulent votes have been found, the real number is in matching signatures. Governor must open up the unconstitutional Consent Decree and call in the Legislature!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 18, 2020
 

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Dominion Voting Systems Is Not PCI Compliant and Failed 10 of 12 Requirements

By Jim Hoft
Published November 18, 2020 at 11:50am
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The ElectionsOnline HOA software uses online voting and PDF postal mail voting.
They are compliant and follow all Payment Card Industry Data Security Standards for all their voting data, especially things through the net. They treat votes just as important as money.

Dominion Voting Systems is not PCI compliant and fails 10 of the 12 requirements.

So the $800 HOA voting software is clearly more secure than the $800,000 government software. Think on that!

The 12 requirements for Payment Card Industry compliance are:
1. Firewalls: block access of foreign or unknown entities attempting to access data (FAIL)
2. Proper Password Protections – (FAIL: many share same password)
3. Protect Voter/Cardholder Data – (FAIL: data dumps of private voter data)
4. Encrypt Transmitted Data – N/A
5. Use and Maintain Anti-Virus – on all devices that interact with net or data (FAIL: has malware)
6. Properly Updated Software – Firewalls & anti-virus and patches for vulnerabilities (FAIL)
7. Restrict Data Access – strictly “need to know” only (FAIL: many externals have access)
8. Unique IDs for Access – creates less vulnerability, quicker response time (FAIL)
9. Restrict Physical Access – secure locked locations, logs any access (FAIL: can access hardware or software)
10. Create and Maintain Access Logs – use special software to log access & accuracy (FAIL: can alter logs)
11. Scan and Test for Vulnerabilities – Done regularly (FAIL: years pass with same issues)
12. Document All Your Policies – For flow, storage, access, etc.
It is very disturbing that elections officials would choose Dominion Voting Systems for their communities considering its poor ratings and likelihood of fraud.
 

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Democrat canvassers in disputed Michigan county doxxed and harassed Republican colleagues

It was after the doxxing and harassment that the two who had declined to certify the county, over reported voter irregularities, did succumb to abuse and criticism and reverse their decision.

Wayne County, Mich., home of Detroit, was the subject of controversy on Tuesday, as the board of canvassers first deadlocked and did not certify the county's election results due to discrepancies, but then backtracked and certified them for Biden.

Criticism of the two Republican canvassers, Monica Palmer and William Hartmann, was swift, fierce, and abusive. Their refusal to certify Wayne County was called racist.

Rumble video on site 2:18 min

Abraham Aiyash, a Democratic organizer and the representative elect for Michigan's 4th House of Representatives district, said:

"You are standing here today telling folks that black Detroit should not have their votes counted. And know the facts: you are certainly showing that you are a racist. You may say that you are not, you may claim that you are not, but let's be very clear," he said, before telling everyone where she lived.

"Your words today and your actions today made it clear that you are okay with silencing the votes of an 80 percent African American city. And what that tell us, Ms. Palmer from Grosse Pointe Woods, that has a history of racism, are deciding to enable and perpetuate the racist history of this country."
You named the school her children went to while screaming that she was a racist.

You went after her kids.

It is on video, you can’t lie and dissemble your way out of this. https://t.co/5w1p6hDNhn
— Jack Posobiec ?? (@JackPosobiec) November 18, 2020
Aiyash tried to walk back what he had said.

He’s trying to dissemble his way out of this, and it’s not going well pic.twitter.com/2XWvINXdrJ
— Jack Posobiec ?? (@JackPosobiec) November 18, 2020
Aiyash was not the only one who lashed out against Palmer. Another man on the call said that the reasons for the two Republicans to not certify the elections was a result of Palmer and Hartmann's "racism."

Rumble video on site 2:18 min

"I just want to let you know: the Trump-stink, the stain of racism that you, William Hartmann and Monica Palmer, will follow you throughout history. Your grandchildren are going to think of you like Bull Connor or George Wallace.

Monica Palmer and William Hartmann will forever be known in Southeastern Michigan as two racists who did something so unprecedented that they disenfranchised hundreds of thousands of black voters in the city of Detroit because they were ordered to. Probably, Monica, you did it because you think Q told you to, or some other crazy stuff like that.

"But just know that when you try to sleep tonight, that millions of people around the world now on Twitter know the name Monica Palmer and William Hartmann as two people completely racist and without an understanding of what integrity means or a shred of human decency. The law isn't on your side, history won't be on your side, your conscience will not be on your side, and lord knows when you go to meet your maker, your soul will be very, very warm."
Take note what happened tonight. 2 Republican officials in MI stood up to the machine. Within minutes they were doxxed, threatened, and CNN/Politico labeled them racists. Where does this behavior lead?
— Jack Posobiec ?? (@JackPosobiec) November 18, 2020

It was after this public pushback against the canvassers that the two who had declined to certify the county, over reported voter irregularities, did succumb to abuse and criticism and reverse their decision.

In addition to the abuse on the Zoom call, users on Twitter posted Palmer's home address, and the identity of her husband's employer.

The vote was then taken again, and the vote to certify was unanimous.

Really frustrating thing is that the board was muted for about five minutes and came back on and basically said never mind, we changed our minds and certified the results. No explanation. https://t.co/fL9aEsQJfr
— Kathy Gray (@michpoligal) November 18, 2020
The original decision, split along party lines, was made by two Democrats and two Republicans who could not come to an agreement over absentee ballot poll books were found to be out-of-balance. This was not entirely unusual for the county, where similar discrepancies did not prevent the certification of an August primary, or the 2016 presidential election.

President Trump claimed that there were more votes in Detroit than there are people, and claimed the state as a win. It was quickly labeled by Twitter as in dispute.
In Detroit, there are FAR MORE VOTES THAN PEOPLE. Nothing can be done to cure that giant scam. I win Michigan!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 18, 2020
 

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Georgia Sec. of State Makes Bizarre Claim About Trump's Absentee Votes, Which Calls Into Question Other Claims
By Sister Toldjah | Nov 17, 2020 4:00 PM ET

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Georgia Republican Sec. of State Brad Raffensperger is in the hot seat with many high-profile Republicans in the state including incumbent Senators Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue, who last week called for him to step down. President Trump has also criticized his handling of the presidential election there, calling him “a so-called Republican (RINO)” who allegedly made it “easier” for Democrats to commit election fraud with mail-in ballots.

Raffensperger has hit back against their claims about his handling of the absentee vote-counting process and the recount process in the state by alleging that the national GOP and their legal team don’t understand Georgia election laws, among other things. He has also posted supposed “fact checks” to counter some of their allegations against him.

But today, Raffensperger gave an interview to local news outlet WSB-TV where he made a claim that makes absolutely no sense regarding the number of Republicans he said voted absentee in the GOP primary but didn’t vote in the general:
In new intv with me, @GaSecofState says 24,000 GOPs who voted absentee in primary did not vote in General – says Donald Trump cost himself the election by sowing distrust in absentee: "he would have won by 10 thousand votes he actually suppressed, depressed his own voting base"
— Justin Gray (@JustinGrayWSB) November 17, 2020
Watch:
Live exclusive at 4 on @wsbtv: the typically mild mannered @GaSecofState comes out swinging in our interview – says Donald Trump cost himself the election by discouraging mail in votes: "he would have won by 10 thousand votes he actually suppressed, depressed his own voting base" pic.twitter.com/1mM7Mmf8xi
— Justin Gray (@JustinGrayWSB) November 17, 2020
I haven’t seen the full interview because I don’t believe it’s been dropped yet, but even if that snippet were put “in context” it still wouldn’t make sense.

Are we supposed to believe that 24,000 faithful Republicans who voted via absentee ballot in the primary took Trump’s lectures to heart about the potential for fraud with mail-in ballots so much so that they decided not to vote altogether, which they would have had to know would hurt Trump’s chances to defeat Biden? I’m calling BS on that big time.

RedState senior copy editor Susie Moore’s BS detector went off, too, when she read what the SoS alleged: “I believe in DJT SO much that I’m NOT gonna vote for him…..” she sarcastically said in response to the tweet.

It just doesn’t add up.

Raffensperger’s highly questionable claim here and the non-sensical conclusion he drew from it calls into question other claims he’s made, such as the one where he alleged Sen. Lindsey Graham urged him to throw out legal ballots in the Georgia presidential race.

I noticed today that Raffensperger has backtracked a bit and added the word “implied” to his remarks about Graham, which proves that it wasn’t something actually said, and instead was just something the embattled Raffensperger assumed without evidence.

To be honest, I hadn’t paid that much attention to the war between Raffensperger, the state GOP, and the Trump campaign until today. But seeing as to what he said a few hours ago about Trump’s absentee ballot voters and what he alleged about Graham last night (which as I noted earlier he’s already walking back), it now makes a lot more sense why there’s been some stiff Republican pushback against him.

This guy has a tendency to go off half-cocked, and then ends up having to correct the record later. He did it regarding the “updated” number of ballots that needed to be counted in Georgia a few days after Election Day and he did it with his comments about Graham. Just what else has he gotten wrong in this election?
 

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Oopsie! Georgia Secretary of State Reveals Some Blue Counties Forgot to Upload Their Votes
By Brandon Morse | Nov 05, 2020 11:45 AM ET
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The state of Georgia is adding to the ridiculousness of the 2020 election, as the Georgia Secretary of State has announced that some counties forgot to click “upload” in order to submit the votes for that county.

And wouldn’t you know it? All these counties are blue.

According to San Francisco Chronicle’s Washington correspondent Tal Kopan, Georgia’s Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said that a number of counties didn’t click the “upload” button to submit the votes for their county.

“Georgia secretary of state says some counties have forgotten to click the “upload” button, so they’ve sent a reminder out,” tweeted Kopan.
Georgia secretary of state says some counties have forgotten to click the “upload” button, so they’ve sent a reminder out
— Tal Kopan (@TalKopan) November 5, 2020
Raffensperger said that when it comes to counting the votes, “fast is great and we appreciate fast. We more appreciate accuracy.” Kopan noted that just over 60,000 votes could be added to the totals by the end of the night.

“I am prayerful that we could get a resolution by the end of the day today,” added Raffensperger.

As Kopan notes, the majority of these votes come from (wouldn’t you know it?) blue counties.

“The bulk of those outstanding ballots come from blue counties, including 17K from Chatham, 7K from Clayton, 11K from Fulton and 7K from Gwinnett, if I got my notes down right,” tweeted Kopan.
Fulton Co. elections director tells CNN they’ve cut their outstanding ballots to about 2,000 and have sent tabulations over to be uploaded imminently
— Tal Kopan (@TalKopan) November 5, 2020
It seems odd that they continue to “find” votes in various places, especially in states that Joe Biden needs. What’s more, these votes always seem to be for Biden. Even the errors that continue to plague this election always seem to err in the Democrats’ favor.

While there is yet no conclusive proof that fraudulent voting is happening, it’s hard not to suspect foul play. It’s hard to square the fact that many states Trump is winning are mysteriously finding votes that put Biden in the lead.

Welcome to the clown show that is the 2020 elections.
 

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A Stack of 10,000 Ballots Should Be Hard to Miss -- but Not for DeKalb County, Georgia Election Workers

By Shipwreckedcrew | Nov 18, 2020 3:15 PM ET

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On November 16, 2020, a credentialed statewide poll watcher in Georgia was present and observing the recount taking place in DeKalb County, Georgia. DeKalb is a suburb of Atlanta; it was one of the counties that reported its election tally hours after most of the rest of Georgia counties had reported, and the vote total as reported was 83.1% to 15.7% in favor of Joe Biden — 308,000 to 58,000 votes.

The poll watcher has signed an affidavit under penalty of perjury with regard to what he observed, and conversations he had with county election workers during the course of the recount that he observed.

He states in his affidavit that the viewing area he was allowed to occupy was situated such that he was not able to read entries on a computer screen being made by the workers as they engaged in the recount process. But he was able to read the writing on the sheets attached to the boxes which listed the ballots/votes in each box for the two candidates, Biden and Trump.

He began taking notes of the counts reflected on the sheets attached to the boxes and noticed one particular count that stood out to him.

After recording the totals from nine different boxes, he could see a pattern in the totals reflected in each box in terms of the total number of ballots — but his affidavit doesn’t say what that pattern/expectation was.

But it became meaningful when he noted a total written on a sheet that was far out of line with what he had been seeking — one box had a sheet on it where the numbers written by an election worker were that the box contained 10,707 ballots for Biden and 13 ballots for Trump — a difference in that one box of 9,694 votes.

The affidavit states that the two election workers at the table where the box was relocated spoke briefly with each other but he could not overhear what they said.
One of them then called over a more senior election worker to speak with them.

The more senior official then took the paper with the figures to another table near where the boxes containing ballots were being held and spoke with two officials at that table. The poll watcher was able to get close enough to hear the officials discuss whether they could determine what the worker who wrote the figures meant to write, speculating that the comma was in the wrong place on the number. The poll watcher overheard them mention making a change, but not specifically what was said.

The election worker who had carried the sheet to that table then took the sheet and went looking for yet another more senior election supervisor. Eventually, the person with the sheet took it to another table with two other workers and left it with them. As she was being followed by the poll watcher she turned towards him and told him to quit following her as she no longer had anything with her.

The poll watcher then reported what he had observed to the Election Director for DeKalb County, who was at first hostile and skeptical. After explaining what he had observed, the Election Director met with another County Election official and they both walked to the table where the sheet with the numbers had been left.

After a few moments, he returned to the poll watcher and told him that the box would be recounted. He made the observation that the box did not contain 10,000 ballots so there was clearly a problem that needed to be resolved. He invited the poll watcher and a Democrat counter-part to observe the recount of that box, which was going to happen when a new shift of workers started shortly thereafter.

Prior to starting, the Pollwatcher learned the ballots were “early votes” — in-person votes prior to election day, which had previously been scanned by an optical scanner, with “1,105” written on the box.

The recount of the box showed that it contained 1,081 for Biden and 13 for Trump — a difference of 1068, not 9,694 as the worker conducting the recount had originally written. The total number of ballots in the box was 1,103 — third party votes and no votes in the race being the difference.

Two practical issues are revealed by this anecdote. First, the original reference to “10,707” for Biden is disconnected from any fact — it’s not a transposition of numbers or a mistakenly located comma. Two workers who had been counting boxes of ballots, where the poll watcher said there was a pattern to the totals that each box seemed to contain, suddenly had a ballot total that was exponentially different from other boxes.

More practically, consider the thickness of a standard package of copy paper which contains 500 sheets. A stack of 10,000 ballots — if the same thickness of copy paper — would be 20 such packages stacked on top of each other — maybe 3 feet tall? Yet two poll workers sitting at the table counting ballots could not recognize the physical impossibility of what they were writing down as the OFFICIAL recount tally for that box of ballots?

This mistake was caught by an observant poll watcher based on the only thing he could observe — the written numbers attached to the boxes by the election workers after they were done counting a box.

The Secretary of State determined that one poll watcher for every 10 recount tables was reasonable and sufficient in terms of neutral observers.
How many “mistakes” are workers making in this recount process that are not getting caught?
 

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Oopsie! Georgia Secretary of State Reveals Some Blue Counties Forgot to Upload Their Votes
By Brandon Morse | Nov 05, 2020 11:45 AM ET
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The state of Georgia is adding to the ridiculousness of the 2020 election, as the Georgia Secretary of State has announced that some counties forgot to click “upload” in order to submit the votes for that county.

And wouldn’t you know it? All these counties are blue.

According to San Francisco Chronicle’s Washington correspondent Tal Kopan, Georgia’s Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said that a number of counties didn’t click the “upload” button to submit the votes for their county.

“Georgia secretary of state says some counties have forgotten to click the “upload” button, so they’ve sent a reminder out,” tweeted Kopan.

Raffensperger said that when it comes to counting the votes, “fast is great and we appreciate fast. We more appreciate accuracy.” Kopan noted that just over 60,000 votes could be added to the totals by the end of the night.

“I am prayerful that we could get a resolution by the end of the day today,” added Raffensperger.

As Kopan notes, the majority of these votes come from (wouldn’t you know it?) blue counties.

“The bulk of those outstanding ballots come from blue counties, including 17K from Chatham, 7K from Clayton, 11K from Fulton and 7K from Gwinnett, if I got my notes down right,” tweeted Kopan.

It seems odd that they continue to “find” votes in various places, especially in states that Joe Biden needs. What’s more, these votes always seem to be for Biden. Even the errors that continue to plague this election always seem to err in the Democrats’ favor.

While there is yet no conclusive proof that fraudulent voting is happening, it’s hard not to suspect foul play. It’s hard to square the fact that many states Trump is winning are mysteriously finding votes that put Biden in the lead.

Welcome to the clown show that is the 2020 elections.


This is dated November 5.
 

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If Americans Can No Longer Trust Our Elections, We’re In Big Trouble

This is an incredibly dangerous moment for the country and may be a pivotal point in the future of America’s democratic republic. Did we just cross the Rubicon?

Willis L. Krumholz

By Willis L. Krumholz
NOVEMBER 17, 2020

The polls from the major networks and universities promised a blue wave. President Trump was down by at least 10 points nationally, and by nearly that much or more in the major swing states. The few pollsters, including Trafalgar, who got 2016 and 2018 right and called 2020 a close race, were widely ridiculed.

Nate Silver, a leftwing poll analyst, was chief among the critics. Silver gave former Vice President Joe Biden a nearly 70 percent chance of winning Florida.

Immediately on Election Day, turnout looked good for the GOP. Trump won Florida decisively and by 8:30 p.m. Central Time, and made huge inroads in urban areas. While Hillary Clinton won Miami-Dade County by 30 points in 2016, the 2020 Trump ticket was down only single digits in the county.

That’s because Trump made significant gains among nonwhite Americans, and according to exit polls had the second-highest nonwhite share of the vote of any Republican since 1976. Cuban Americans are a big reason for Trump decisively winning Florida, but Trump’s gains with minority voters are a nationwide trend. The flipside was lower black and Hispanic turnout for Democrats—except for several major Democratic cities in contested swing states.

In other words, a significant margin of minority voters who didn’t defect to Trump decided not to vote. Indeed, a Bloomberg article days before the election cited anonymous Biden officials who said the campaign was worried about black and Hispanic turnout due to a lack of a ground game in these traditionally Democratic strongholds. But the warnings had gone unheeded.

Instead, the campaign hoped to make up these lost minority votes with gains in the suburbs, particularly among white women. In the end, Trump gained among white women compared to 2016, and only appeared to marginally lose votes from white men—many of which may have been upper-class suburban white men.

Back to Election Night

On election night, Trump’s decisive win in Florida was a bellwether to punters in the betting markets. The Trump campaign also seemed to outperform Election Day voting in states like Michigan and Pennsylvania, especially given the turnout seen in Florida. A shy Trump vote did exist, especially in the suburbs among women, and the GOP was morphing into a working-class, increasingly multiracial party. Betting odds swung in Trump’s favor, peaking at around 85 percent.

That’s when things went south for the Trump campaign. In a yet unexplained move, states including Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin stopped releasing vote counts on election night. Fact-checkers have noted that these states didn’t stop counting—fair enough—but not why they stopped releasing the results of their counting.

Come 4 a.m. the next morning, huge amounts of fresh Biden votes were reported. Trump’s betting odds plummeted, and days later the media declared Biden to be the president-elect.

Except 70 percent of Trump voters, who comprise half the country, are convinced of massive election fraud. Yet corporate media has no intention of investigating claims of fraud. Instead, it has pivoted from saying there is “no evidence” of fraud, to saying that not enough evidence exists to overturn the results.

Contrary to the hope of Trump supporters, the courts will probably be powerless to sort these issues out. This is an incredibly dangerous moment for the country and may be a pivotal point in the future of America’s democratic republic. Did we just cross the Rubicon?

The Morning After
Before all else, we must go to the source of distrust over this election. Whereas Florida finished counting votes on election night, and has a system that knows roughly how many votes are outstanding and will be counted before election night is over, in key states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin an unknown number of ballots could come in at the last second. And they did.
For that, thank Democrat lawsuits to overturn state voting laws at the last second, using COVID as a pretext. For those who doubt that the suits were nakedly political, note that they looked like a wish list based on a bill Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi authored in 2019 to accomplish nationwide mail-in voting.

Many of the suits were quarterbacked by former Hillary Clinton campaign attorney Marc Elias, who was involved in manufacturing Russiagate’s Christopher Steele “dossier.” Like most things rotten in this country, particular blame should be placed on the courts that decided bureaucrats could unilaterally rewrite state laws to turn absentee voting into mail-in voting.

There was no good reason to remove requirements that absentee ballots arrive before the end of Election Day, nor to allow the fraud-welcoming practice of “ballot-harvesting.” The John Roberts Supreme Court stood idly by and let lower courts rip up longstanding state election law. Democrats and the media complain that the legislatures should have acquiesced and affirmed this judicial tyranny by changing the law to allow ballots to be counted before Election Day. That would have only put the legislature’s seal of approval on a mess that the courts stupidly created.
Mail-In Balloting Is an Easier Fraud Mark
Regardless of the existence or level of fraud in the 2020 election, it is a fact that mail-in balloting opens elections to the likelihood of massive fraud and chaos.

First, there’s an easy opportunity for cheating, given the unknown number of ballots that can come in. Because ballots can be accepted after election day, an unscrupulous faction that lags in earlier counting can come up with the votes to make the difference.

Second, there’s less accountability for election officials. In a normal election, it is possible to immediately tell how many votes are cast and from where—once the votes are cast, all that’s left is to count the votes, because officials know by ward and precinct how many votes are in and what type have been cast (are the votes early in-person, absentee, or election day in-person?). Not so for mail-in voting.

One can have a recount, but that will only recount the same bad ballots.

Then, once the counting starts, mail-in voting brings problems of a haphazard chain of custody and reduced controls over voter-eligibility verification. All this is why one can have a recount, but that will only recount the same bad ballots.

The obvious problems with mail-in voting are not a rightwing conspiracy. France banned mail-in voting in the 1970s for these very reasons. In a recent New Jersey mail-in election, about 20 percent of the ballots cast were found to be fraudulent.

A local New York election this year saw huge delays in processing ballots. A 2012 article in the New York Times warns that regular old absentee voting could screw up the electoral process, let alone allowing ballots to come in after election day.

Independent left-leaning journalist Glenn Greenwald writes Georgia had an 80 percent chance to go for Trump on election night, ostensibly because of a good Republican turnout. But so many ballots came in for Biden the next morning that the state ostensibly swung to Biden’s favor, due to major Democratic turnout in the Democratic stronghold of Fulton County.

This doesn’t prove fraud, but Greenwald calls this seesaw process in which many areas are counting votes nearly a week after the election a “disgrace.” “Distrust in U.S. outcomes [under such a system] is dangerous but rational,” writes Greenwald.

‘No Evidence’ of Any Fraud?
The media, Democrats, and many establishment Republicans have reflexively repeated that “no evidence” of fraud existed. Yet evidence does exist. The stories coming out of major vote-counting centers are shocking, and only add to the distrust. Dozens upon dozens of witnesses have signed affidavits attesting wrongdoing or highly inappropriate behavior from officials who are supposed to be impartial.

Detroit poll challengers have signed affidavits, under penalty of perjury, that they saw election workers counting ballots for non-eligible voters, and the double counting of voters. These persons say they were harassed constantly, and that election workers and Democratic operatives would get in their faces and start screaming if they raised a concern.

Federal agents threatened one of these whistleblowers, in an effort to get him to recant his story.

Some “election workers” appeared to be AFL-CIO activists. If concerns were raised, GOP poll challengers said, they were ushered from the room by the police and the entire room would cheer. They say election workers’ goal was to get as many GOP poll challengers as possible kicked out of that room.

Poll challengers also allege that they were pushed out of the room when the military ballots came in. Workers were sent to lunch; Democrats ate inside the building and the Republicans ate outside the area where votes were being counted, and the doors were locked so Republicans couldn’t get back in.

Irregularities alleged by these challengers aside from counting ineligible voters include ballots being dropped off by random vehicles, including a Mercedes Benz and a Ferrari, or arriving after the cutoff period. A sworn affidavit claims ballots were being “fraudulently and manually entered” when the person had no information and the birthdate was simply put as “1/1/1900.” Another Detroit GOP poll challenger says she witnessed names on ballots not coming up in the system but being counted nonetheless. When she raised concerns, she says she was kicked out.

Sworn affidavits by several U.S. Postal Service employees, in at least Pennsylvania and Michigan, along with a city employee from Detroit, alleged they were asked to backdate ballots (make ballots appear as if they were sent on election day) by their superiors. It was later revealed that federal agents threatened one of these whistleblowers, in an effort to get him to recant his story. A Clark County Nevada elections department employee says that his coworkers fabricated proof of residence data to allow ineligible voters.

In Philadelphia, GOP poll challengers had to sue to be allowed to observe what election workers were doing. Democratic state officials counter-sued to stop the access. While GOP poll challengers were moved forward in the room, the vote counters were moved further away, a mockery of state law that allows oversight of this process.

Photos of Philly vote counters show several women wearing Biden masks. A Trump campaign lawsuit has a sworn affidavit from a person who says he or she saw USB drives being delivered to the back of the room where voting machines were housed, and where observers were restricted.

In Philadelphia, GOP poll challengers had to sue to be allowed to observe what election workers were doing.

Meanwhile, the Georgia GOP state party chair claims Fulton County election officials told his observers to go home on election night because they were closing up, but then continued to count ballots “in secret.” In Wisconsin, election clerks allegedly altered “thousands” of absentee ballots to make them eligible.
Add to this multiple videos of what appears to be poll workers throwing away Trump ballots, and at least a handful of examples of dead persons voting. A conservative pollster, Richard Baris, claims to have found evidence of 10,000 deceased persons voting in Michigan. Others also claimed to have found thousands of dead voters in that state.

Meanwhile, Pennsylvania far exceeded its record for 90-year-olds registering to vote. In Nevada, multiple witnesses signed sworn affidavits that they saw a “Biden-Harris” van filling out loads of ballots.

Yes, Republicans have at least anecdotal evidence of fraud, although in one sense the media is right: these anecdotes are not evidence enough to overturn the election. That’s because there’s no way to quantify any of this evidence into an actual number of bad votes, even assuming all these claims are well-founded.


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Then There Are the Statistical Anomalies
There’s more than anecdotal evidence, however. Observers and experts pointed out plenty of statistical anomalies. Some may turn out to be innocuous, or easily explainable. Others have been less well-explained.

First, Republicans took issue with the massive vote dumps for Biden that occurred overnight, in which Biden was getting nearly 100 percent of the vote. One of these was attributed to an extra zero and human error.

Michigan added almost 150,000 votes in one instance, all of which were for Biden except for about 6,000.

Silver tweeted that around 27,000 votes out of Philadelphia went “all for Biden.”

In the face of obvious wonderment of how Biden could get 100 percent of such a large share of votes, Silver was quick to claim that election officials “unintentionally enter vote updates one candidate at a time, rather than entering all candidates together.” Maybe, but when votes stop getting reported and reporting starts coming in early in the morning with nearly 100 percent of votes coming in for Biden that justifiably raised eyebrows.

On a graph, these vote dumps in Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, and Pennsylvania resulted in Biden quickly jumping above Trump, and the odds of a Trump win plummeting. Michigan added almost 150,000 votes in one instance, all of which were for Biden except for about 6,000.

On election night, Trump led in Pennsylvania by almost 800,000 votes. The next morning, Trump’s lead shrunk to less than 100,000. Later, ballots found, including those apparently lingering with the U.S. Postal Service, supposedly put Biden over the edge.

Biden received an unbelievable amount of the mail-in share in Pennsylvania and Michigan.

Biden’s advantage in mail-in voting was to be expected, but the magnitude of the spikes for Biden in these select states is worth scrutiny. According to ballot requests across the country, GOP voters voted by mail too, just not with the same intensity as Democratic voters.

But while Trump received a reasonable share of the mail-in or absentee votes in places like Ohio, Biden received an unbelievable amount of the mail-in share in Pennsylvania and Michigan. Biden’s Pennsylvania mail-in total, excluding about 90,000 mail-in votes from libertarians and those with no party affiliation, equates to winning all the Democratic and Independent mail-in votes, and 9 percent of the GOP mail-in votes.

Said differently, Biden is up 60 points in absentee or mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania, and up by almost 40 points in Michigan. That’s not Biden receiving 60 percent of mail-in votes in Pennsylvania. That’s Biden receiving 80 percent of the mail-in vote. Comparably, Biden was only up single digits in absentee voting in most other battleground states. Biden’s mail-in advantage was 15 points in Ohio and 5 points in Minnesota.

There’s no reason to think Pennsylvania and Michigan should be outliers to national mail-in voting trends. Despite several comments by the president, the Trump campaign ground game in these states encouraged mail-in voting. In Michigan and Wisconsin, according to NBC News, Republicans actually led Democrats in mail-in ballots requested and returned. Yet the vast majority of the ballots that were counted after election day in these states were for Biden.

A Weird, Asymmetric Surge in Only Some Cities
No, this Biden surge in cities wasn’t driven by the suburbs abandoning Trump—Trump didn’t lose the suburbs any more than he lost them in 2016, and losses there were more than replaced by gains in working-class areas. These Biden votes were entirely driven by massive turnout in select Democratic strongholds in swing states. As mentioned before, this turnout was not consistent across the country. In parts of these cities, there was more turnout than registered voters.

Biden only had a net gain of 4,000 votes compared to Hillary Clinton in 2016 in Cuyahoga County (Cleveland), Ohio. Yet Biden had a net gain of almost 70,000 in Wayne County (Detroit), Michigan. In Minneapolis, Democrats bragged of 88 percent turnout—extremely high relative to the rest of the country and the state.
These Biden votes were entirely driven by massive turnout in select Democratic strongholds in swing states.

Biden also outperformed past Democrats in places like Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, where the population is declining. Barack Obama received 233,000 votes in the county in 2012, while Biden received 313,000 votes. In Georgia, a handful of counties had massively higher margins in terms of Biden votes compared to what Hillary Clinton received in 2016—totaling a net gain of more than 200,000 votes.

It was alleged by some conservatives that Wisconsin had an unreal amount of statewide turnout. That isn’t the case, but Milwaukee County did have sky-high turnout. In Milwaukee, Biden received more votes than Obama did in 2008, even though the population has declined by around 10 percent since that time.

Milwaukee “updated” voting data for its wards after a newspaper pointed out that seven wards had more voters than registered voters, and showing turnout well above 100 percent.

Another oddity was the large number of Biden-only ballots with no votes down-ballot in these swing states, where courts had canned existing election law (including Georgia). For example, the difference between Trump and the GOP Senate candidates in Georgia was around 1,000 votes. But Biden received nearly 100,000 more votes than the Democratic Senate candidates. Some of these were split tickets, but the numbers suggest a huge amount of Biden-only ballots.

In Michigan, Trump received 7,000 more votes than the GOP Senate candidate. But Biden received 70,000 more votes than the Democratic Senate candidate.

Apparently, 450,000 ballots in swing states had only a mark for Biden with no down-ballot votes. This amounts to a massive increase in ballots cast for only the presidential candidate in these states relative to history, and ballots like this were overwhelmingly of the mail-in variety.

Ticket-Splitting Was Low, and Congress Trended Red
Anti-Trump establishmentarians claimed everything was attributed to ticket splitting—surely a projection of their views onto the people of Middle America. But ticket splitting was normal, minimal, and went both ways. In fact, this year ticket-splitting nearly hit a historic low. If anything, Trump outperformed the GOP senatorial candidates in states like Michigan and Arizona. Either way, ticket splitting doesn’t explain all the votes for Biden with no down-ballot votes.

Another headscratcher is that, in what was supposed to be a blue-wave election, Democrats beat no Republican incumbents. They also lost around 10 seats (possibly more), and all but one of the nearly 30 races considered competitive.

Why does this matter for the presidential election? The only place Democrats were turning out to vote was in Democrat-run cities in swing states where election laws were thrown out. Again, contrary to the narrative from some establishment types, this wasn’t Republicans outperforming Trump. In the House Democratic campaign committee’s own panicked words, House Republicans were buoyed by Trump.

Republicans are more or less tied with Democrats in the national House popular vote. Trump had at least 1.5 million more votes than House Republicans, while Biden had 5.5 million more votes than House Democrats.

Big Ballot Dumps Trended Biden
Other statistical anomalies have been noticed. In Milwaukee, the number of ballots that were reported in a single batch was highly correlated with Biden receiving the vast majority of the votes—meaning, larger reports of ballots skewed heavily for Biden over smaller reports. This doesn’t prove anything nefarious, but it is an oddity nonetheless.

Biden votes appeared to surge later in areas of Milwaukee where Biden was not performing well. Although this could simply be due to unaccounted-for votes coming in, the phenomenon appears concentrated among wards where Democrats were underperforming, not where Democratic voters were most prevalent.

Ballots in Pennsylvania are also alleged to have arrived before they were sent, arrived the same day, or arrived just one day after being mailed out right before Election Day. A data analyst calls these instances of “fast traveling” ballots suspicious. The share of these fast-traveling ballots as a percent of overall mail-in ballots was incredibly high in Pennsylvania, totaling up to 100,000 ballots in a race with a margin of much less.

Most came from Lehigh County and Philadelphia. Ballots defined as suspicious were much more likely to be requested via mail instead of online. The data analyst calls it odd that the quick turnaround time would depend on how ballots were requested (mail requests somehow got done in a day, compared to online requests, which were more normal).

Late-arriving ballots were apparently a huge percent of the votes cast in several Pennsylvania counties. In general, these late-arriving ballots reduce confidence in the election system, fraud or no fraud.

Information Chaos
There were still other things to set GOP voters’ minds ablaze. Hilariously, Google searches for “election fraud punishment” spiked in Arizona, Michigan, and Pennsylvania several days prior to the election.

Aside from anecdotal evidence of deceased voters, some alleged many thousands of deceased voters—a claim that has yet to be unproven. Former Democrat governor of Illinois, Rod Blagojevich, who was jailed for trying to sell Barack Obama’s Senate seat, confirmed conservatives’ suspicions even more. “In big cities where they control the political apparatus and they control the apparatus that counts the votes, and they control the polling places and the ones who count the votes, it’s widespread and it’s deep,” Blagojevich said.

Still other examples appear to have been false alarms. One picture showed voters with the birthdate listed as “1/1/1900.” While some poll workers are alleged to have improperly entered this date, and other birthdates have been found that can’t possibly be correct, some voters who were subject to spousal abuse or have other reasons for privacy have their birthdates entered as such. In another example, a viral video showed a poll worker filling out ballot after ballot—yet the election authority says that this is a regular part of the process, and the pollworker is evidently duplicating “damaged” ballots.

The Much-Discussed Software Issues
The spookiest thing thrown about in conservative circles involves allegations that Dominion, voting hardware and software used in a vast number of states and in all the swing states, changed vote tallies from Trump to Biden, or deleted Trump votes. What is certainly true is there were several Dominion-related errors, all of which took votes from Trump and gave them to Biden.

Votes were switched in Michigan on at least two separate instances. Dominion claims this was due to user error, but the Michigan GOP has called for a statewide investigation. Even if this was user error, it isn’t comforting that these errors could be so easily made using multi-million-dollar electronic voting machines.

The only place Democrats were turning out to vote was in Democrat-run cities in swing states where election laws were thrown out.
The New York Times is quick to point out that every confirmed error has been explained. But Republicans aren’t satisfied with the explanations when all the errors went against Trump, and speculate there could be many yet to be discovered. That’s because when votes were switched, these errors were only identified by authorities carefully tracking the issue—there was no clear-cut mechanism to flag this problem, which means it could be magnified across the country.

We also know that Dominion caused Georgia election-day voters to be initially turned away because of a glitch, which occurred in two Trump-leaning counties. A Georgia official said that Dominion “uploaded something last night, which is not normal, and it caused a glitch.”

A poll watcher in Georgia alleges that he or she saw a “suspicious [and yet unexplained] shift in votes while monitoring the interim election results on the Georgia secretary of state website.” There were also problems with Arizona voting machines on Election Day. Arizona’s secretary of state is refusing to investigate issues there, and conservatives were quick to point out that she had previously posted about Trump’s “base” being “neo-Nazis.”

Dominion has ties to prominent Democrats, too, adding to suspicions. This includes an overwhelming amount of donations going to Democrats, and a Dominion employee in charge of vote security participating in Antifa calls.
Republicans aren’t satisfied with the explanations when all the errors went against Trump.

Conservative blogs have alleged that thousands of votes were switched in Wisconsin, enough to give the state to Trump if true. Another blogger alleges that millions of votes were switched by Dominion, and this claim was tweeted by President Trump on Nov. 12.

The president’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, is now saying that he has an affidavit from a Dominion worker in Michigan that 100,000 ballots for Biden were brought in the back door so they could “catch up with Trump.” Prominent Republican lawyer Sidney Powell claims Dominion was hacked, and others noticed a subtraction of vote totals in the live data from Virginia.

A data scientist claims there is a linear pattern of a declining Trump margin in more heavily Republican areas—which essentially steals votes from red areas and reduces Trump’s ability to run up the score there—in many key swing states.

These claims are fanciful, to put it nicely, but they deserve scrutiny and investigation. Dominion systems, at the very least, do appear to be prone to hacking. A federal judge and several senators, all Democrats, have criticized Dominion for security problems in the past. Texas decided not to use Dominion because of security issues.

Some allege that corruption was involved in granting massive contracts to Dominion in states like Georgia. Dominion might be completely unproblematic, but it is used in nearly 30 states, was used in all of the swing states, and should be scrutinized.

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Can You Blame Them?
Four years ago, Republican voters would have accepted the current election results. That was before the Trump campaign was spied on, and a constant coup was underway to remove Trump from the presidency. That was before America saw massive riots and looting, resulting in countless injured and dead cops and citizens, while the corporate media ran cover for the rioters and looters.

Maybe Trump’s voters deserve to be skeptical about the outcome of this election. Silver and the other mainstream pollsters didn’t just promise that Trump and Republicans would be defeated soundly, they ridiculed those who said it would be a tight race. Trump’s supporters were again right to doubt the polls.

If Democrats believe half the things they are saying about Trump or his supporters, why wouldn’t massive vote fraud be justified and even moral?

The court-won destructions of state election law smacked Republicans as nakedly political. Nobody seriously believes that allowing mailed ballots to come in after the election has anything to do with actually protecting people from the pandemic, especially when the same officials applauding mail-in balloting have selectively applied coronavirus restrictions to reward their friends and punish their political enemies.

Democrats have compared Trump to Adolf Hitler and have widely called his supporters white supremacists and fascists. If they believe half the things they are saying about Trump or his supporters, why wouldn’t massive vote fraud be justified and even moral?

The same people who ranted about Russia hacking the 2016 election—to the point where almost 70 percent of Democrats falsely believed that Russia had hacked and changed vote totals—tell Trump’s base that it is dangerous and unpatriotic to doubt the results of this election. Russia, via a so-called troll farm, spent less than $100,000 on social media advertising before the 2016 election, but that didn’t stop House Democrats and many Senate Republicans from treating this spending like it was the biggest problem this country faced. The same people who think less than $100,000 of Russian social media advertising could sway an election say there is no way the election could be swayed by fraud.

The same people who think less than $100,000 of Russian advertising could sway an election say there is no way the election could be swayed by fraud.

The censorship of any post questioning any part of the election on social media and the denial and dismissal of obvious signs of fraud only add fuel to the fire. These fly in the face of common sense. Consider an article from the BBC in September 2016, about vote rigging in Africa. The article says that classic signs of fraud include “high turnout in specific areas,” and “delay in announcing results.”

Note that states like Florida had high turnout, but it wasn’t hugely concentrated to certain areas and ballots were counted instantly.

After the election the rejection rate of mail-in (absentee) ballots may have plummeted in the key swing states, meaning officials there don’t appear to have checked ballot validity, even though millions more mail-in ballots were cast in 2020. Georgia is recounting votes, but not checking absentee ballot signatures. And Pennsylvania officials appear to have destroyed absentee ballot envelopes—in violation of state law—which are necessary to determine the validity of votes in an audit.

The Threat to Our Democracy
Nothing here proves election fraud changed 10,000 votes or 1,000,000 votes, and that’s partly the point. It isn’t possible to know what would have happened without a major recanvassing and audits. Even then, unlawful votes are extremely hard to undo. People asking for definitive proof of fraud that would result in a specific total of fraudulent votes are asking for the impossible. The election is supposed to be secure from the get-go.

Trump’s chances in the courts look slim, fraud or no fraud. The legal system is probably not equipped to handle these matters, given the alleged scale and egregiousness. Courts can’t go through ballot by ballot and figure this out. Instead, they would apply brightline rules, such as tossing out ballots in Pennsylvania that came in after a certain date.

People asking for definitive proof of fraud that would result in a specific total of fraudulent votes are asking for the impossible.

But since Pennsylvania officials failed to segregate these ballots, and corrupt officials violated the law and threw out the ballot envelopes, are the courts really ready to invalidate whole categories of votes from a swing state? The courts already failed the country by allowing perfectly decent election laws to be ignored.

Consider too that if Trump does pull off a shocking victory, America will see riots and violence in the streets unlike anything seen before. According to PredictIt, this has at least a one in ten chance of happening.

But if Trump loses his court challenges and recounts, his supporters aren’t going to forget about this. People are angry unlike anything this author has seen before. The Jeffrey Epstein affair, the FBI corruption, and the riots have completely eroded trust in basic institutions, especially on the right.

If the fraud alleged did occur, it was pre-planned, industrialized, and brazen. This isn’t 1960, where John F. Kennedy received more votes in Cook County than the number of people living there. It isn’t 2000, where a legal battle is ensuing over one state’s balloting issues.

Quite obviously, this is not a healthy democratic republic. It will be incredibly hard to deescalate from here.

This is an allegation that there was massive fraud, on a scale never seen before—and the allegation comes from about 50 million Americans. The allegation is plausible because the establishment denying it has hated Trump and his supporters from the get-go. Trump supporters deserve to be paranoid—they have been neither accepted nor understood.

The Republican Party may not like that its voters believe this, but at this point they are riding a tiger. Trump won’t go away, either. Yes, Trump made plenty of mistakes—he tried too hard to work with an establishment that viewed him as an existential threat, and realized only too late that it would never accept him—and in some ways governed too much like a traditional Republican. But Trump is now inseparably tied to the Republican base, largely because of how the establishment has brutalized him and his supporters.

Picture inauguration day: Biden is being sworn in, but Trump isn’t in D.C. Instead, he’s holding a massive rally in the Midwest. Republican Party officials and most politicians (privately at least) will screech at this, but at this point they have no control. They are along for the ride.

Note that these things are happening when the economy is relatively good for most Americans, despite the coronavirus pandemic. Imagine what happens if this is no longer the case. Quite obviously, this is not a healthy democratic republic. It will be incredibly hard to deescalate from here, and that should terrify Americans.

Have We Crossed the Rubicon?
Let’s put this even more bluntly. After the election, Tucker Carlson had a segment on how Republicans dodged a bullet in 2020 by holding the Senate. But with mail-in balloting, how sure can Republicans be that they will hold the two seats in Georgia?

Many establishment Republicans and party insiders are happy to move on from Trump and have touted the good night other Republican candidates had. The base isn’t going to move on from Trump, could care less about Republican senators, and wonders if the country will have a fair election again.

If mail-in ballots go away next time, all this worry was for nothing. But Democrats are unlikely to give up mail-in balloting given the power it provides. If cheating did occur, and it is unaddressed, it will certainly happen again. Maybe Republican areas have 120 percent turnout next election. See how this works?

Overall, people feel like America has been sliding for decades, and indeed the American working class has been sliding for decades. If people begin to feel like elections no longer matter, the only avenue to settle differences is through force and violence. The far-left in this country has already skipped belief in the electoral system and reached this conclusion. How else does a divided people settle disputes without the ballot box?

At the Point of No Return?
The phrase “crossing the Rubicon” refers to the moment Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon River, which precipitated the Roman Civil War and the end of the Roman Republic. It’s like saying “the point of no return.” People can laugh at what this is implying, but America is reaching a dangerous point if the people—on both sides—no longer trust elections.

Only a few things can walk us back from the ledge. First, Democrats need to drop the push for mail-in balloting. The fear, however, is that Democrats won’t be able to resist the advantage this gives them. Trump not leaving politics will provide moral ammo, in Democrats’ minds, for not taking the high road. Plus, even when Trump does get too old for politics, the movement he started isn’t going away.
Next, Biden should be calling for a full auditing of the election, especially in the swing states, if he really wants to bring the country together. This is highly unlikely to happen, however, and Biden’s moves are being closely handled even as D.C. is springing into action in anticipation of the administration change.

Biden should be calling for a full auditing of the election, especially in the swing states, if he really wants to bring the country together.

Republicans in Michigan and Pennsylvania want a full audit before the legislature certifies the results, which is both their right and good for the country. But any audit that results in success for the Trump campaign will result in chaos and violence, given how poorly the media is covering these issues. And Democrats are fighting hard to pressure the swing-state legislatures to certify the results without an audit.

No, there won’t be a revote. The small fraud that got Democrats a new congressional election earlier this year can’t happen for a presidential election, given timetables set by the Constitution. No matter what happens, the courts won’t decide this in a way that is acceptable to more than half the country.

So this is the massive risk our country faces going into the 2020s: if one side no longer agrees to play by the rules of a game, the game is over. It appears that with Trump as an excuse, the left believes the rules of the game no longer apply. The political right is approaching the point where they feel the same way.

Willis L. Krumholz holds a JD and MBA degree from the University of St. Thomas.
 

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Are you sure about that?
Way to go, WI and GA idiots. Double down on dumb.

They're desperate. In the case of WI, it's absolute fraud. The recount was paid for under legal and corporate expectations, and WI wants to change the terms of a contract without consent of the other party. That's a breach of contract law in any state in the Union. To meet in secret or under cover of government authority to commit the crime is conspiracy. If tied to other efforts in other states, RICO becomes a real thing. Fast-track this to SCOTUS, they're ****ed.
 

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McEnany: Fired cybersecurity chief tried to sabotage election legal challenges
by Mike Brest, Breaking News Reporter |

| November 18, 2020 11:27 AM

White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said the top U.S. cybersecurity official, who was abruptly fired by President Trump after defending the integrity of the 2020 election, appeared motivated to discredit the president's legal challenges in battleground states.

Asserting that there is a great deal of evidence of possible misconduct, including hundreds of pages of affidavits in Michigan and "real questions" in Pennsylvania, the chief Trump spokeswoman argued that Chris Krebs, who served as the director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, was misleading the public.

"The president has pointed out that he made an inaccurate statement. He actually made a few, if you look at his Twitter feed. But, look, if you say that this was the most secure election in American history, as the president rightly pointed out, that may be true from the standpoint of foreign interference," she said on Wednesday's episode of Fox & Friends before pointing to ballots found in Georgia that had not been included in the initial count.

"So, to come out and say it’s the most secure election in American history, that's just not an accurate statement, and it seems like a partisan attempt to just hit back at the president as he pursues important litigation," McEnany continued.
Last week, the Homeland Security Department agency led by Krebs released a joint statement with some partners and advisers that said that "there is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised,” which is contrary to what Trump and his allies claim.

They claim that the election was rigged in favor of President-elect Joe Biden, although they have not presented evidence of a widespread plot to overturn the election.

Trump cited the statement, which also stressed that "the Nov. 3rd election was the most secure in American history," in his pair of tweets Tuesday night announcing the firing of Krebs. The president said it was "highly inaccurate."

Krebs's second in command, Matt Travis, also reportedly resigned under pressure, leaving career CISA official Brandon Wales to be acting director.

The firing was met with intense backlash, and Krebs was defended by people across the political spectrum.

“Director Krebs is a deeply respected cybersecurity expert who worked diligently to safeguard our elections, support state and local election officials, and dispel dangerous misinformation. Yet, instead of rewarding this patriotic service, the president has fired Director Krebs for speaking truth to power and rejecting Trump’s constant campaign of election falsehoods," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said. “The president’s insistence on distracting and dividing the country by denying his defeat in the election undermines our democracy."

Still, Trump's supporters have been incensed with Krebs for stepping out of line with what the president and his allies have been arguing in court. Fox Business host Lou Dobbs criticized CISA for failing to disclose in the election security statement that two voting machine companies that have been subject to scrutiny are advisers to the agency.

McEnany was asked if Krebs had a political agenda driving him, which prompted her to explore some possibilities.

"I don’t know if it was a partisan agenda, a personal grievance, what it was. But it definitely seemed to be animated by something, and it seemed to go directly at this president and legitimate claims that he’s pursuing in court," she said.

Steve Doocy, one of the co-hosts of Fox & Friends, then suggested DHS may not have found proof of voter fraud or irregularities,
"Yeah, well, look down in Georgia," McEnany replied. “We have one recount going on right now. Just one. There are others that may or may not happen."

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Oopsie! Georgia Secretary of State Reveals Some Blue Counties Forgot to Upload Their Votes
By Brandon Morse | Nov 05, 2020 11:45 AM ET
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The state of Georgia is adding to the ridiculousness of the 2020 election, as the Georgia Secretary of State has announced that some counties forgot to click “upload” in order to submit the votes for that county.

And wouldn’t you know it? All these counties are blue.

According to San Francisco Chronicle’s Washington correspondent Tal Kopan, Georgia’s Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said that a number of counties didn’t click the “upload” button to submit the votes for their county.

“Georgia secretary of state says some counties have forgotten to click the “upload” button, so they’ve sent a reminder out,” tweeted Kopan.

Raffensperger said that when it comes to counting the votes, “fast is great and we appreciate fast. We more appreciate accuracy.” Kopan noted that just over 60,000 votes could be added to the totals by the end of the night.

“I am prayerful that we could get a resolution by the end of the day today,” added Raffensperger.

As Kopan notes, the majority of these votes come from (wouldn’t you know it?) blue counties.

“The bulk of those outstanding ballots come from blue counties, including 17K from Chatham, 7K from Clayton, 11K from Fulton and 7K from Gwinnett, if I got my notes down right,” tweeted Kopan.

It seems odd that they continue to “find” votes in various places, especially in states that Joe Biden needs. What’s more, these votes always seem to be for Biden. Even the errors that continue to plague this election always seem to err in the Democrats’ favor.

While there is yet no conclusive proof that fraudulent voting is happening, it’s hard not to suspect foul play. It’s hard to square the fact that many states Trump is winning are mysteriously finding votes that put Biden in the lead.

Welcome to the clown show that is the 2020 elections.

They just can't put that shovel down, can they? Only explanation is they're digging their own grave and just don't realize it yet.
 

marsh

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In Nevada, A Corrupt Cash-For-Votes Scheme Is Hiding In Plain Sight

In tribal areas, Native American nonprofits illegally offered gift cards, electronics, and other 'prizes' in an effort to get out the vote—for Joe Biden.

John Daniel Davidson

By John Daniel Davidson
NOVEMBER 18, 2020

It should surprise no one that Nevada has problems with election security and voter fraud, especially after the state mailed an absentee ballot to every registered voter this year whether he requested one or not, then received back more than eight times as many mail-in ballots as they did in 2016. That’s part of the reason Republicans in Nevada filed another lawsuit on Tuesday alleging widespread voter fraud and irregularities.

The mass mailing of unsolicited ballots is of course a recipe for fraud, even more so in a state where the voter rolls contain tens of thousands of people who haven’t voted or updated their records in more than a decade. This is how you get dead people voting, as we reported here at The Federalist and as Tucker Carlson noted last week.

But there’s another, less sensational but perhaps more consequential election scandal in Nevada that hasn’t yet made headlines, even though it’s been hiding in plain sight for weeks now. Under the guise of supposedly nonprofit, nonpartisan get-out-the-vote campaigns, Native American voter advocacy groups in Nevada handed out gift cards, electronics, clothing, and other items to voters in tribal areas, in many cases documenting the exchange of ballots for “prizes” on their own Facebook pages, sometimes even while wearing official Joe Biden campaign gear.

Simply put, this is illegal. Offering voters anything of value in exchange for their vote is a violation of federal election law, and in some cases punishable by up to two years in prison and as much as $10,000 in fines. That includes raffles, free food, free T-shirts, and so on.

The GOTV Effort In Nevada Was Blatantly Criminal
Yet the Nevada Native Vote Project’s Facebook page contains post after post of voters receiving something of value in exchange for proof they cast a vote or handed over an absentee ballot. In one post, two men display $25 Visa gift cards they received after dropping off absentee ballots, presumably to someone who works for the Nevada Native Vote Project.

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In another Facebook post, a spokeswoman for the Reno-Sparks Indian Colony, Bethany Sam, appears on video inside a polling place offering T-shirts, stickers, jewelry, and thousands of dollars in gift cards to voters. Some of these items appear to be part of a raffle, which Sam says voters can enter in person or by emailing or texting a picture of their absentee ballot, while other items are offered to anyone who shows up in person and votes.

Sam appears in another video wearing a Biden-Harris campaign mask with the Biden campaign bus behind her, talking about how important Native votes are to “swing” Washoe County (Biden won the county, which includes Reno, by less than 12,000 votes). In another video, she tells viewers about “Biden swag” available at a GOTV event, along with free Biden cookies. All these videos appear on the official Facebook page of the Reno-Sparks Indian Colony. (I called Sam to ask about this, and about the illegal raffles, but she never called me back.)

Raffling off gift cards—the equivalent of a cash giveaway—appears to have been widespread among Native American communities in Nevada. The Nevada Native Vote Project’s Facebook page lists dozens of gift card winners by name, all of them rewarded simply for their vote, as well as advertisements for the raffles and information on how to enter.

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In addition to the Reno-Sparks Indian Colony, other Native groups throughout Nevada—Elko Indian Colony, Walker River Paiute Tribe, Pyramid Lake Paiute Tribe, Moapa Band of Paiute—hosted voter raffles of some sort, all of them sponsored by the Nevada Native Vote Project.

Others, like the Las Vegas Tribal Community, simply gave away “free stuff” to voters.

Following The (Taxpayer) Money
All of this raises some fairly obvious questions. Where did all these gift cards and prizes come from? Who paid for them? How much “free stuff” was given away? Who’s really behind this so-called GOTV effort?

The Nevada Native Vote Project is a nonprofit group, and its voter advocacy is supposed to be nonpartisan and politically unbiased. Yet the group’s Facebook page includes a post from a group called Native Organizers Alliance about the importance of voting, “because we live in places of political upheaval where the rightwing operates quite openly.” The post includes a political map of Nevada and Wisconsin, with arrows pointing to blue, Democrat-voting areas that say, “Natives live here.”

Funding for the Nevada Native Vote Projects appears to come from an umbrella group called Native Vote that’s an initiative of the National Congress of American Indians, or NCAI. The connections between such groups are not always obvious, but the logos on the T-shirts the Nevada Native Vote Project was handing out at polling places is the same logo on the Native Vote website (see screenshots below).

So where does NCAI get its funding? From a lot of places, including Native tribal groups, charitable foundations, and major corporations. It also gets millions in funding from the federal government. More than a half-dozen government “partners” are listed on NCAI’s supporters page, including the Department of the Interior, Department of Agriculture, the Small Business Administration, and the Environmental Protection Agency, among others. In 2018, these federal agencies provided a total of more than $3 million to NCAI, according to the group’s own disclosures.

It’s unclear whether taxpayer dollars went directly into Native Vote’s GOTV efforts or to purchase gift cards and other “prizes” for Native American voters, but the NCAI logo does appear on Facebook posts advertising illegal Election Day cash raffles in Nevada.

What’s clear, however, is that the GOTV efforts of Native Vote aren’t nonpartisan. Native Vote and NCAI have partnered in the past with a Native advocacy group called Four Directions, jointly producing a voter guide in 2012 and last year partnering with Four Directions to co-host a presidential forum focused on Native American issues.

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This year, back in January, Four Directions co-hosted a presidential forum in Las Vegas with Nevada Tribal Nations. The “donate” page for that forum, and indeed for Four Directions’ own website, goes through ActBlue, an online giving platform that funneled nearly $1.6 billion to Democratic candidates in the 2018 midterms and has since become a powerful fundraising tool for Democratic campaigns and progressive organizations like Black Lives Matter.

This Is Widespread, And Corporate Media Won’t Report It
There are about 60,000 eligible Native American voters in Nevada who make up about 3 percent of the state’s total voting population. That’s almost twice the current margin of Biden’s current lead over President Trump in Nevada. So the Native American vote really does matter, it could even be decisive. It therefore matters how many Native American votes were influenced by an illegal cash-for-votes scheme, especially if funding for it came from American taxpayers via the NCAI.

It also matters because this didn’t just happen in Nevada. Organizers there might have been more obvious about what they were doing, but there’s evidence that similar efforts, including gift card and electronics giveaways, were undertaken in Native communities in South Dakota, Arizona, Wisconsin, Washington, Michigan, Idaho, Minnesota, and Texas.

All of this coordinated illegal activity, clearly designed to churn out votes for Biden and Democrats in tribal areas all across the country, is completely out in the open. You don’t need special access or some secret source to find out about it. You just have be curious, look around, and report it.

Unfortunately, mainstream media outlets are not curious and refuse to report on any of this stuff. What’s described above is an egregious and totally transparent vote-buying scheme in Nevada that was likely undertaken on a similar scale across nearly a dozen other states, but you won’t read about it in The New York Times, or hear about it on CNN.

That’s not because the story is unimportant, but because, for the media establishment, it’s inconvenient. No wonder these groups didn’t try to hide what they were doing.

John is the Political Editor at The Federalist. Follow him on Twitter.
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marsh

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AZ GOP Chair Dr. Kelli Ward Confident Election ‘Will Ultimately Be Decided in Favor of President Donald J. Trump’

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Dr. Kelli Ward, chair of the Republican Party of Arizona, said in a Wednesday update that the day is “expected to be a lawsuit day” for the Arizona Republican Party, and she reaffirmed her confidence that the election will “ultimately be decided in favor of President Donald J. Trump.”

Ward described the day as a “lawsuit day” in her morning update. The Arizona GOP is expected in court Wednesday afternoon over their lawsuit demanding a hand-count audit of votes by precinct rather than by voting centers in Maricopa County.

“The Arizona Republican Party has a lawsuit about election integrity,” Ward said, identifying the Arizona Democratic Party and Democrat Secretary of State Katie Hobbs (D) as the opposition.

“And by the way, the Maricopa County Republican Party did make an issue of this,” Ward said. “They passed a resolution saying we need to vote by precincts all the way back in June before the primary — June of 2020”:

“There is a fundamental difference between sampling ‘polling centers’ and ‘precincts,’ most notable being the fact that there were only around 175 voting centers in this election but there were 748 precincts,” the Republican Party of Arizona said in a statement last week, announcing the legal action:
BREAKING: This afternoon, the @AZGOP filed suit to enforce a hand count by precinct, not voting center, as required by law.
"Arizona voters deserve complete assurance that the law will be followed and that only legal votes will be counted." — Chairwoman @kelliwardaz pic.twitter.com/xzcqUT8jTc
— Arizona Republican Party (@AZGOP) November 13, 2020
Ward said the issue comes down to if the legislature and the law it passed “should that take second fiddle to an election procedures manual created and printed by one member of the executive branch — Katie Hobbs, the Secretary of State who has called Trump supporters — remember — neo-Nazis.”

“I say no,” Ward said, adding that they will “hopefully have good news” to share after today’s showing in court.

Ward also expressed confidence that Trump will, in fact, emerge as the victor in the highly disputed presidential election.

“I’m going to tell you. I believe — I still do now, just as I did on election night — that this election will ultimately be decided in favor of President Donald J. Trump. ur 11 electoral votes will go to him,” she said.

“And we should not and will not ever allow mistakes, glitches, and other irregularities to become a partisan issue. We want full transparency and election integrity,” she added. “That’s it.”

This week, Arizona Reps. Andy Biggs (R) and Paul Gosar (R) expressed their belief that America “deserves an election audit,” providing examples of issues and concerns in a video shared by the Arizona GOP:
This Election is a JOKE.
Glitches, upload errors, ballot dumps, and more…
Arizona Congressmen @RepAndyBiggsAZ & @RepGosar explain why Americans want an Election Audit.
Count all LEGAL votes! Help us get it done: AUDIT THE VOTE pic.twitter.com/35V36YYRVW
— Arizona Republican Party (@AZGOP) November 17, 2020
Joe Biden (D) led Trump by less than 10,400 votes in the Grand Canyon State as of Wednesday afternoon.
 

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Watch: University VP, Police Commissioner Threaten Wayne County Canvassers
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A university vice president went on a tirade against the Republican members of the Wayne County, Michigan, board of canvassers on Tuesday after they refused to certify the disputed results of the November 3 election.

Edward “Ned” Staebler blasted Monica Palmer and William Hartmann, the two Republicans who make up half of the board.

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Please Watch @NedStaebler — a Wayne County Board Member of Canvassers stuff in a locker @HartmannDude and @monicaspalmer — the two members that refused to certify the ballots for the county…pic.twitter.com/iGl3LSf3Sw
— Rex Chapman (@RexChapman) November 18, 2020

Staebler said, before the canvassers changed their minds:
I’m not going to try to change your mind. I just want to let you know that the Trump stink, the stain of racism that you, William Hartmann and Monica Palmer, have just covered yourself in, is going to follow you throughout history. Your grandchildren are going to think of you like Bull Connor or George Wallace.
Staebler was referring to two Democrat segregationists.

“When you try to sleep tonight, millions of people around the world now” will know their names, he argued, calling them “completely racist.”

He concluded, “Lord knows, when you go to meet your maker, your soul is going to be very, very warm.”

Hartmann thanked him for his statement.

Staebler is the vice president of economic development for Wayne State University, a school located in Detroit. His LinkedIn account stated he is also President and CEO of TechTown, which he billed as “Detroit’s most established business incubator/accelerator.”

Employed there since 2011, Staebler made $220,694 in 2017, according to the university’s website.

Staebler’s Twitter account says he lives in Ann Arbor, which is located in Washtenaw County. That is confirmed by details found at Nuwber.com.
Ann Arbor, home to the University of Michigan, is an upscale community. The Zestimate for Staebler’s home is $1.148 million, according to Zillow.

Meanwhile, a man named William M. Davis stated his position as Detroit Police Commissioner, and the city website identified him as representing District 7.
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“I am appalled at the actions of these two so-called Republicans. I would say that you all are confederates,” he said, “you all are not Republicans.”

“I will personally see to it that if we have to pay for— if Wayne County has to pay for anything, you two should have to pay for it, and you should be charged,” Davis said.

He said he wants to have “ethics charges” brought up on both canvassers.

“We’re no longer should to sit around and let white people take advantage of black people. Your day is coming,” he said, his eyes getting big. “Have a good day.”
 
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So a Democrat politician in Michigan doxxed the children of a Republican county official, and people think this is ok?!

Doxxing minors?

To coerce a politicians vote on tolerating election fraud?

How is he not in cuffs?!

What part of Communist Revolution did you fail to comprehend?

There is no law for Communists and Marxists.

Only laws for us little people - to restrict us, to punish us, and soon - to eradicate us.
 

marsh

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Trump Campaign Files For Recount In Two Wisconsin Counties

Wed, 11/18/2020 - 10:45
Update (1110ET): The Trump campaign has filed a petition to recount two counties in Wisconsin - Milwaukee and Dane - alleging that absentee ballots were altered and improperly issued, and that voter ID laws were circumvented.
BREAKING: Trump campaign puts $3 Million behind Wisconsin recount in target counties pic.twitter.com/0y0wEEaBY2
— Jack Posobiec (@JackPosobiec) November 18, 2020
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The Trump campaign is expected to file for a recount in the state of Wisconsin on Wednesday, a move which will cost the campaign up to $8 million in a state which Trump lost by just over 20,000 votes as of Wednesday - the closest margin out of the three Midwestern "blue wall" states" which flipped back after Trump won them in 2016.


According to the state Elections Commission, the Trump campaign will have to pay $7.9 million to fund a Wisconsin recount. https://t.co/LhigzpIJlx
— Gabe Fleisher (@WakeUp2Politics) November 18, 2020
Winning Wisconsin on a recount would give Trump just 10 electoral votes - not enough to retain the presidency, but it would be a decisive victory amid ongoing claims of election fraud and other irregularities throughout swing states. The campaign could shave money off the $7.9 million estimated cost if they file for recounts in select counties.

Recounts would need to start no later than Sunday and be finished by December 1st.

In addition to recounts, an audit of every November election is required by Wisconsin state law, whether requested by a candidate or not. According to the Star Tribune, "The audit will either take place as part of the recount or before the Dec. 1 certification if there is no recount, said Wisconsin Elections Commission spokesman Reid Magney. The audit of ballots from 190 randomly selected reporting units is done by hand to verify the machine count, Magney said."
 

marsh

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15,000 Nevada Voters Also 'Voted' Outside State, Electoral College Candidates Claim

Wed, 11/18/2020 - 10:20
Authored by Mimi Nguyen Ly via The Epoch Times,

Nevada’s Republican Party announced a new election contest on Tuesday to “throw out fraud and ensure election integrity,” citing a slew of alleged voting irregularities that include claims of evidence that 15,000 people who voted in Nevada also voted in another state.



The election contest (pdf), filed in Carson City District Court by Nevada Electoral College candidates who pledged to President Donald Trump, is contesting the results of the presidential election in Nevada. It alleges “substantial irregularities, improprieties, and fraud” that occurred in the election, and that Nevada election officials put in effect an election system that was “highly susceptible to fraud and abuse.”
“Evidence will show that the nature and scale of that fraud and abuse renders the purported results of the Nevada election illegitimate,” the lawsuit read.
Former Nevada Attorney General and Trump campaign Nevada Co-Chair Adam Laxalt said that the lawsuit alleges many mail-in votes were “improperly cast.”
“We are presenting today in our formal contest, that there are north of 15,000 people who voted in Nevada and another state. We are presenting that people that had already done a change of address and left the state outside of the 30 day requirement, their ballots were still cast. We are also presenting dead voters,” he told a news conference on Tuesday.
He took issue with Clark County’s system whereby a complaint has to be lodged in order for an issue to be investigated regarding a contested vote.
“I will only leave one example: If a person has died, and that ballot was mailed to someone’s home, and someone voted that ballot, who is going to complain about that vote cast? No one, quite clearly. So the system isn’t investigating these things,” Laxalt said.
Among other alleged voting irregularities raised, the lawsuit took issue with the reliability of the signature scanning machine used in Clark County, Laxalt said. He pointed to how no professional election integrity body has certified the machine, and how election personnel manually adjusted the factory settings of the machines to 40 percent of a signature match.

Chair of the American Conservative Union and Trump campaign representative Matt Schlapp on Tuesday denounced the widespread unsolicited mail-in ballots across the state. This, coupled with various changes in Nevada election rules just before Election Day that allegedly decreased ballot security and “almost” eliminated signature verification, have resulted in unprecedented voting irregularities in Clark County, he said.

The county has seen multiple complaints over voting irregularities. On Monday, the county tossed results of a local election after a canvass showed 139 discrepancies in a battleground district.
“In all my years in politics, I have never seen the types of voter irregularity we have seen in Clark County,” he told a news conference.

“The zeal to push reckless unsolicited mail-in voting resulted in 50 percent of ballots coming through the mail and a tenfold increase in mail ballots in Clark County … Nevada and Clark County have created this crisis, reckless unsolicited mail in voting has created this crisis.”
The Clark County Election Department and the Nevada secretary of state did not immediately respond to The Epoch Times’ request for comment.

Biden declared victory over the 2020 presidential election on Nov. 7 although the 538 electors of the electoral college have yet to elect the next president. Trump has disputed Biden’s claim and his campaign has launched multiple legal challenges alleging a variety of voting irregularities across a number of battleground states.

The Epoch Times won’t declare a winner of the 2020 presidential election until all results are certified and any legal challenges are resolved.
 

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Are you sure about that?

auxman

Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit...

In dramatic reversal, Wayne County election board Republicans rescind votes certifying results
In affidavits, GOP canvass board members claim they were bullied and say there are too many irregularities in Detroit vote to justify accepting election results.
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In an extraordinary turnabout that foreshadows possible legal action, the two GOP members of Wayne County's election board signed affidavits Wednesday night alleging they were bullied and misled into approving election results in Michigan's largest metropolis and do not believe the votes should be certified until serious irregularities in Detroit votes are resolved.

The statements by Wayne County Board of Canvassers Chairwoman Monica Palmer and fellow GOP member William C. Hartmann rescinding their votes from a day earlier threw into question anew whether Michigan's presidential vote currently favoring Democrat Joe Biden will be certified. They also signaled a possible legal confrontation ahead.

"I voted not to certify, and I still believe this vote should not be certified," Hartmann said his affidavits. "Until these questions are addressed, I remain opposed to certification of the Wayne County results."

Added Palmer in her affidavit: "I rescind my prior vote to certify Wayne County elections."

Both GOP board members said their concerns included there were discrepancies in nearly three quarters of Detroit's precincts poll books where ballots are supposed to be matched to qualified voters.

"The Wayne County election had serious process flaws which deserve investigation. I continue to ask for information to assure Wayne County voters that these elections were conducted fairly and accurately. Despite repeated requests I have not received the requisite information and believe an additional 10 days of canvas by the State Board of canvassers will help provide the information necessary," Palmer explained.

Their pronouncements come just 24 hours after a chaotic meeting in which the county's election board initially failed to certify the Nov. 3 election results during a 2-2 deadlocked vote when both Palmer and Hartmann voted against certification.

But after hours of contentious public comment and criticism -- including Democratic allegations of racism and threats against their safety -- the two GOP members struck a deal to certify the elections in return for a promise of a thorough audit.

Palmer and Hartmann said Wednesday they learned that state officials had reneged or would not honor the audit, leaving them no recourse but to oppose certification until more investigation could be performed.

It is unclear whether the Tuesday night compromise was binding or could be changed. But both GOP members said in the affidavits they felt misled and unduly pressured to change their positions the night earlier.

"The comments made accusations of racism and threatened me and members of my family," Palmer said in her affidavit.

View: https://twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1329274837148299264
 
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