ECON New Shortages - Sept Forward

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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I just checked on a Tattler.

Two weeks ago, they were calling a 14 day shipping delay.

Now, it's 14-21 day.
 

nomifyle

TB Fanatic
As for the insane prices on lids, they are not going to get cheaper any time soon.. Thank God I stocked up back in March when all the madness was beginning.

I just looked on Amazon and there are better prices.

God is good all the time

Judy
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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3 Dozen Regular Lids/Rings
$23.95

12 Dozen Regular Lids/Rings
$91.00

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Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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I saw canning lids at a walmart yesterday. $3.20 for a dozen wide mouth Ball brand. $1.60 for a dozen regular mouth Mainstay (walmart) brand.

Attwoods had zero canning supplies.

No, jars, lids, rings, funnels, tongs or any of the stuff in that section.

Asked a gal that worked there about it. When they do get some supplies in, they are gone like ammo. :lol:
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Walgreens and Food Giant, the two places I shop have never run out of wide mouth or regular lids. I don't know the price, though. I just keep noticing them there. I haven't bought any in years. I have enough for awhile.

There must not be much canning going on in my area this year.
 
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nomifyle

TB Fanatic
On August 16 I ordered 10 five gallon mylar bags including oxygen absorbers. I'd ordered them back in July and the cost was about 29 dollars, my order 36.99, now they cost 42.99. My order has been back ordered and they have finally shipped over a month later. However, I was willing to wait particularly since they price keeps going up. I'm sure all this is due to supply and demand. These are not the ziploc ones, although I do have a decent supply of those. These I plan to cut in half to fit a 2 gallon bucket. I'm finding this is a nice size for storing flour. I just found 25 pounds of flour in the bottom of one of my chest freezers.

God is good all the time

Judy
 

Josie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Sterile gloves are GREAT as long as someone has taught you HOW to put them ON so that you never touch the OUTER SIDE of the glove, so it remains sterile. There IS a trick to it.
Yes they come in discrete sizes.
SOMETIMES it's easier to get them on if someone else is there to help and they know what they are doing!

Sterile gloves are generally used when you are doing surgery or suturing. They are not 100% sterile once you open the packet but are good enough if you don't touch something unsterile or sneeze on them. For most uses, the regular that come shoved into a box will do. They are thought to be clean and provide a barrier between you and the contaminate. I guess that in a pinch, regular gloves that have been sanitized with alcohol will do.
 

Cyclonemom

Veteran Member
Train traffic here has been down and exponentially, we live three blocks from the tracks. There used to be multiple trains through here every hour day and night and now maybe three or four trains per day.
I just checked on a Tattler.

Two weeks ago, they were calling a 14 day shipping delay.

Now, it's 14-21 day.
I ordered extras Aug 19.

They haven't shipped yet.
 

Cyclonemom

Veteran Member
Train traffic here has been down and exponentially, we live three blocks from the tracks. There used to be multiple trains through here every hour day and night and now maybe three or four trains per day.
I grew up a mile north of Hwy 30; those exact same tracks, West of you a couple hours. If there are only 3-4 a day now, that is utterly catastrophic.

For those who aren't familiar, those tracks previously carried 30-40 trains one way a day.
 

FireDance

TB Fanatic
LOL! I've still got multiple quart jars of peppercorns, stored with O2 absorbers in our cool basement. They are indistinguishable from fresh when ground... and yes, opening the jar for the first time will clear your sinuses!

Black pepper was so valuable in the years when transport was done by sailing ship peppercorns were traded ounce for ounce for gold. (At least, that's what I've read... it was a bit before my time!)

I considered trying to grow it, but decided buying a lifetime supply and storing carefully was probably a better use of my resources... if we lived in a much warmer climate, I might have chosen differently.

Summerthyme
Buy bulk peppercorns and a pepper grinder.
I have a large thing of not too many peppercorns left. It has a plastic flip top. Ugh.

I loved the plant! It’s beautiful. Yet, even though I could probably grow them quite well here, I too wondered about the time aspect.

And then, wickedly, I sent the site and video to someone who CANNOT resist growing a bloody pepper plant for his life. (Even the ones I consider too hot to be useful.) This year (same announcement every year) we shall grow a thousand habanero and fifty ghosts and - this part is always hedged for some reason I don’t understand- five jalapeño). And then he will buy poblanos from the store every other week to stuff.

I don’t get it. I guess it’s not my circus. Well it was this year as I ripped all the leaves off the LAST habanero and gave it a bath. If I heard “you’re killing it!!!!” one time I heard it a thousand. Plant is doing well now. Now it’s “it’s not going to have a pepper!” I secretly pull off all the blooms because it doesn’t NEED to fruit now.

Anyway, back to my orchid lust. Sigh.
 

Barry Natchitoches

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I do that too, BUT I slather the sanitizer all over the steering wheel, driving levers like turn signal, inside door handles, shifter.... Everything like that once I get back in the car.
I don't slather sanitizer all over the place.

I just go into the stores wearing TWO pairs of protective gloves - a well fitting pair of nitrile gloves and a pair of oversized dishwashing gloves. The dishwashing gloves touch anything that might be infected. When I get back to the car, I open my trunk with the remote control key fob, take the dishwashing gloves off and throw them into the trunk to bake in the hot car for a few days.

The nitrile gloves underneath are still clean.

When I get back into the car, I put on another pair of clean dishwashing gloves and drive on to the next store. I wear those gloves in the next store, then when I get back to my car, I open the trunk again and throw the second pair in there to bake in the hot car along with the first pair.

If I am going someplace else, I put on a third pair of dishwashing gloves and wear them in there.


I have enough of those Playtex Living Gloves (for dishwashing) that I can go to about six or seven places and change my gloves before entering each building.

When I am finished hitting the stores and have thrown the last pair into the hot trunk, I drive home with the still clean nitrile gloves on my hand. I don't have to slather hand sanitizer anywhere in my car, because I disposed of the contaminated outer gloves before I ever entered the car, and left a few days out in the blazing hot car in this summer heat, the gloves will "disinfect" sufficiently before my next trip out.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I grew up a mile north of Hwy 30; those exact same tracks, West of you a couple hours. If there are only 3-4 a day now, that is utterly catastrophic.

For those who aren't familiar, those tracks previously carried 30-40 trains one way a day.

When I moved into this house almost 20 years ago now it was closer to 100 trains a day, now there's hardly any train traffic at all.
 

annieosage

Inactive
On August 16 I ordered 10 five gallon mylar bags including oxygen absorbers. I'd ordered them back in July and the cost was about 29 dollars, my order 36.99, now they cost 42.99. My order has been back ordered and they have finally shipped over a month later. However, I was willing to wait particularly since they price keeps going up. I'm sure all this is due to supply and demand. These are not the ziploc ones, although I do have a decent supply of those. These I plan to cut in half to fit a 2 gallon bucket. I'm finding this is a nice size for storing flour. I just found 25 pounds of flour in the bottom of one of my chest freezers.

God is good all the time

Judy

On 8-5 I ordered a pack of 20 1 gallon mylar with oxygen absorbers for $24.99. It's now $27.99 so not that big of a jump. My next payday I am ordering another set.
 

Terrwyn

Veteran Member
Around here, the TP and paper towel supply is stable to plentiful. A couple of things that I'm not seeing in stores are alcohol, peroxide and disinfecting wipes. Of the three, the wipes are a hit and miss thing. Alcohol and peroxide are basically out of stock permanently.

I haven't seen anything on the food side that's short any longer and the local Market Street grocery (Safeway Brand) has started their 2:1 meat specials that rotate on a weekly basis. So far I've seen ground beef, chicken breasts and porterhouse steaks.

I was at Costco yesterday and happened into a pallet of mixed Mountain House meals. I realized that the pallet would likely not last the day, so I grabbed a box, figuring they are a true LT type food item and that they'd be a good add to the case I got last year.

Ammunition remains very scarce, with retired guys at the club where I shoot stalking WalMart in the mornings to see what they put out. Reloading supplies are scarce, particularly primers which are not to be found right now...

Jeff B.
I just bought 2 qts on bulkperoxide.com 3% but they have it in gallon sizes all the way to 34%
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I moved from home 20 years ago, and honestly didn't track trains in your AO as college was my singular focus.

This is epically bad.

yes, it is bad. The only reason I tracked them is that I work from home and in the summer with the windows open it is loud!
 
Anchorage muni, including bedroom communities like Eagle River, still requires masks at most public locations. I am well aware there is strong doubt about their efficacy, but one does as one must to participate in society, reluctant or not. Masks are still available but they cost a ridiculous amount around here - unless one chooses china masks online or can make their own. They are still not effective but sometimes one just has to toe that line. $14.00 for 3 masks at Fred Meyers (Krogers to most of you). But this week my trainer brought me an entire case he found at Costco for 50 masks at $21.00. Sigh. I like the local gym, no mask required but that was really nice of him to do that.

Not really looking forward to the next couple of months of travel - but will be very interesting in seeing what is and is not available in Kodiak and the Tampa area. Meanwhile, I'm going out in the sunny, chilly, blue sky day here... and breathe in the crisp clean Alaska air while I can.
The 711 store here in NY sells nice cloth masks for $3. They are not thin and not too thick. They are just right. Lots of different colors and designs.
 

Digger

Veteran Member
A friend went to Kroger in Russellville AR. There was no fresh meat at all in the case. They had lunch meat, breakfast meat, and frozen meat. But no fresh. It kind of freaked her out. This was early Saturday morning. She had meant to ask someone about it, but forgot when she checked out.

A few days earlier we had been in our little Harps store. Inventory is low in some areas, but there is plenty of food in the store. The quality of the beef has gone down, in my opinion.
 

TxGal

Day by day
I was shopping in both College Station and Huntsville this week. The college kids are back in town now, and pretty much everything was hit hard - especially frozen foods, canned foods, pasta, and kitchen needs.

This is not a surprise at all, it happens every year/semester. Having said that, adding a large group (thousands) of shoppers into the stores when there are already spot shortages (varies and depends on the area), it is a huge hit to available products.

The one thing that I did notice that was different in both stores - usually when they're hit pretty hard by a high number of shoppers, the staff are out there stocking in many, many aisles. This trip - none, at least not while I was there.
 

catskinner

Veteran Member
A friend went to Kroger in Russellville AR. There was no fresh meat at all in the case. They had lunch meat, breakfast meat, and frozen meat. But no fresh. It kind of freaked her out. This was early Saturday morning. She had meant to ask someone about it, but forgot when she checked out.

A few days earlier we had been in our little Harps store. Inventory is low in some areas, but there is plenty of food in the store. The quality of the beef has gone down, in my opinion.
I think the West Memphis AR store will not be far behind. I was there last week and the fresh meats were very thin, as were other refrigerated meats. (lunch meat, bacon and sausage) The produce dept was absolutely horrible and everything else in the store was very thin as well or there just wasn't any. It looked like a store that was closing and not getting any more products to sell.
Kroger has some serious distribution problems.
 

phloydius

Veteran Member
I have a large thing of not too many peppercorns left. It has a plastic flip top. Ugh.

Smaller quantities of peppercorns sold in grocery stores (like McCormick brand 1.8oz) do come in the flip tops, but if you use enough peppercorns to justify it they can be bought in larger quantities (12oz to 1lb) in other containers from places like Amazon. Then just refill your plastic flips. Also some organic brands do not use flip tops.
 

FireDance

TB Fanatic
Smaller quantities of peppercorns sold in grocery stores (like McCormick brand 1.8oz) do come in the flip tops, but if you use enough peppercorns to justify it they can be bought in larger quantities (12oz to 1lb) in other containers from places like Amazon. Then just refill your plastic flips. Also some organic brands do not use flip tops.
This IS a 12 oz container I bought years ago. (Many years).

Observations: the pepper tastes just as good as it always did; and we use too much. Lol.

I am going through the spice cabinet shortly to see what we need. Then off to the Mexican store to see what’s available there.

There is a spice store where I used to live, but it is run my unfriendly Middle Eastern men. Gives me the creeps to go in there alone. So that’s off my book. I need to find a place here or near here if possible.
 
I just received a text back from my mom. A local hobby farmer she buys from works for Union Pacific. He was layed off last week. 10 years with them.

Majority of layoffs are engineers, and they are adding cars to the trains that are running.
Basically, less drivers but longer trains? So lower labor costs per car shipped?
 

pauldingbabe

The Great Cat
Yes.

What id like to know is # of cars shipped this year over last year.

I'm thinking trains are jacked up to consumer traffic because (and I dont know for sure) the military is using them. When the country is under an emergency declaration everything gets shifted to those needs first.
 

Cyclonemom

Veteran Member
Not sure if this is a fluke, but Amazon seems to be having supply issues. I ordered a dozen various items yesterday, like a watch for DS's birthday in October, some legos for gifts, and various basic clothing items.

They were all Prime shipping.

The soonest anything will get here is Saturday. (5 days) Some not until mid October.

Lots and lots of "not available until xyz" on Amazon.

Certainly not everything, but significantly more items than even 4 months ago.
 

John Deere Girl

Veteran Member
Not sure if this is a fluke, but Amazon seems to be having supply issues. I ordered a dozen various items yesterday, like a watch for DS's birthday in October, some legos for gifts, and various basic clothing items.

They were all Prime shipping.

The soonest anything will get here is Saturday. (5 days) Some not until mid October.

Lots and lots of "not available until xyz" on Amazon.

Certainly not everything, but significantly more items than even 4 months ago.
I've noticed this with Amazon too. Very rarely do I get delivery within two days, and we have prime.
 

anna43

Veteran Member
I was in HyVee today for just a few items and was shocked at the increase in prices. I think small containers of preserves now cost more than the larger jars did before this mess started. Also a regular sized bottle of syrup has doubled in price. When I got to Aldi I saw syrup was still $1.29 so I bought two bottles. Walmart had a good supply of the nitrate (I think that's the name) disposable gloves but none of the vinyl gloves I wanted. There were a few bottles of 70% alcohol on the shelves but not many. All three stores still have empty or sparse shelves, but it seems to be different things each time. I got everything I needed except the gloves and I skipped the preserves due to price.
 

vessie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Not sure if this is a fluke, but Amazon seems to be having supply issues. I ordered a dozen various items yesterday, like a watch for DS's birthday in October, some legos for gifts, and various basic clothing items.

They were all Prime shipping.

The soonest anything will get here is Saturday. (5 days) Some not until mid October.

Lots and lots of "not available until xyz" on Amazon.

Certainly not everything, but significantly more items than even 4 months ago.


I ordered about 7 items, in three separate transactions and they were supposed to be delivered yesterday but Amazon is bundling them all up to deliver this Thursday.

So much for paying Prime to get things in two days.

Pikers. V
 

jazzy

Advocate Discernment
i went in to walmart this week, first time in months as ive been doing the curb side pick up. CO rural area. lots of shortages, some holes. but what struck me was the huge gaps in spices, all of them. sauces like A-1, hot sauce, bbq sauces, the flavoring stuff like old bay, plue salt and sugar was very very low,

the canning goods, well, decimated is a good description, no lids at all of any kind and few cases of jars - maybe 8 or less. i know this is canning season but ive never seen the place so bare.

made me sad as it is a real sing of the times

make sure you have spices, sauces, flavorings, salt and pepper. and old bay, cant live without old bay.
 
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I have a large thing of not too many peppercorns left. It has a plastic flip top. Ugh.

I loved the plant! It’s beautiful. Yet, even though I could probably grow them quite well here, I too wondered about the time aspect.

And then, wickedly, I sent the site and video to someone who CANNOT resist growing a bloody pepper plant for his life. (Even the ones I consider too hot to be useful.) This year (same announcement every year) we shall grow a thousand habanero and fifty ghosts and - this part is always hedged for some reason I don’t understand- five jalapeño). And then he will buy poblanos from the store every other week to stuff.

I don’t get it. I guess it’s not my circus. Well it was this year as I ripped all the leaves off the LAST habanero and gave it a bath. If I heard “you’re killing it!!!!” one time I heard it a thousand. Plant is doing well now. Now it’s “it’s not going to have a pepper!” I secretly pull off all the blooms because it doesn’t NEED to fruit now.

Anyway, back to my orchid lust. Sigh.
I was growing them in a greenhouse....need lots of heat (too much)....very slow growing..will take at least a couple of years, maybe three before you see results. Bugs love the plants....dumped them.....buy peppercorns and vacuum pack them as Summertyme said...you can better use your time.
 

FireDance

TB Fanatic
I was growing them in a greenhouse....need lots of heat (too much)....very slow growing..will take at least a couple of years, maybe three before you see results. Bugs love the plants....dumped them.....buy peppercorns and vacuum pack them as Summertyme said...you can better use your time.
Thank you for that information! It would be fun to grow them. However, I’m already doing daily bug patrols and well, am growing weary. We have some worm invasion. Three types I have found.

And my ferns? Army worms. I have never seen that before. I will probably end up spraying those, but REALLY don’t want to spray my fruits because they produce daily and I eat them. I’m just salvaging what I can and squishing a lot.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Thank you for that information! It would be fun to grow them. However, I’m already doing daily bug patrols and well, am growing weary. We have some worm invasion. Three types I have found.

And my ferns? Army worms. I have never seen that before. I will probably end up spraying those, but REALLY don’t want to spray my fruits because they produce daily and I eat them. I’m just salvaging what I can and squishing a lot.
Get some Bt and spray. Deadly to caterpillars, harmless to humans and pets. Can spray up to the minute of harvest (but I always try to spray 24-48 hours before, so the caterpillars are dead.)

Summerthyme
 
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