USA My personal warning about the availability of products from China

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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I have been doing electrical work lately, adding 20 amp circuits in the garage... Menards is running very low on boxes, and receptacles... you have to buy the good stuff now. Cheap ones are gone.

Check for a local electrical supply house.
 

homecanner1

Veteran Member
Yes on notions, have been ordering supplies and everything is already low. Glue sticks, buttons, felt, elastic, zippers, ribbon, appliques ALL China made. And thanks on heads up on cotton issues due to locusts, got the order in for quilt batting! Already restocked on cotton thread back in March, will get more! Get your stuff now. Just got 5 yards of lovely flannel on ebay for making warm winter sheets! There are some good fabrics there but you have to add in shipping.
 
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nomifyle

TB Fanatic
For some odd reason late this past winter OC was moved to purchase a good amount of bandages, bandaids, and the like when he was at the pharmacy picking up stuff. Glad we have it on hand now.

I stocked up on all of those things last summer. As I've said before, the power outage we had last May prompted me to refresh so many things. My biggest problem these days is finding a place to keep everything, we are crowded.

Judy
 

energy_wave

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If China gets into it with Taiwan and the island becomes embroiled in war, same with Hong Kong, what strategic products do they supply the western world that we can't live without? I wonder what proprietary technology China might end up with.
 

mecoastie

Veteran Member
Hong Kong probably none as they have been Chinese ruled for the last 25 years. As for Taiwan I would be surprised if it was much given their proximity to China.
 

mecoastie

Veteran Member
Are shortages getting steadily worse, or is it more of a consistent, steady, reduction in availability?

Back in February, I was filling holes in my inventory, expecting TEOTWAWKI re: availability of goods. Thus far, though, it seems like more like ongoing intermittent shortages rather than continuously worsening supply.

Just wondering what the aggregate trend is that people see. The boss has me wondering now in the OP...

That's the million dollar question. I cant speak to it personally as I went today right after Memorial Day weekend. It may have been the weekend rush. I went to stop this weekend and there were people standing in line to get in so it was busy. That said I do see people posting on FB about missing items at stores.
 

parsonswife

Veteran Member
Also went to Walmart today. I noticed that they had things today that they haven't had all year. Quite a few new gas grills. In fact the steel was full. Also had some patio furniture for the first time. I also saw pallets of box fans that they haven't had. They must be finding stuff from somewhere. I figure that Walmart won't sit on their hands and just go without things to sell...they will find someone else to make their stuff....
Most stores order their Seasonal items 10 months or so in advance. For example at Valentines they contract for Christmas candy which usually arrives in grocery store back room several months in advance. I suspect the fans gave been in the warehouse storage since Jan or Feb.
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
Homeschooling materials! I don't know where they are printed, but some probably come from abroad. I read that as many as 40% of parents are now considering home schooling starting this fall. If even 10% actually decided to do so, there would not be sufficient texts, workbooks, etc.

I would think that downloading (free or charged for) + printing as needed would take care of that, so no need for worries on that, at least.
 

Betty_Rose

Veteran Member
My brother’s house has a super fancy geo-thermal heating and cooling systems with six separate zones. It’s very complex.

The A/C stopped working Saturday. Repairman told him that it needs a part that will take 2-3 weeks to get. I’m betting that it’s coming from China.

This system is two years old.

And now I’m thinking that we’ll be darn lucky to see it in three weeks.
 

seraphima

Veteran Member
I would think that downloading (free or charged for) + printing as needed would take care of that, so no need for worries on that, at least.
Really? If 40 % of parents tried to print all their instructional materials, wouldn't there be a run on printers, ink, notebooks, etc.? If you look at a typical year's supply of texts, teacher's manuals, workbooks, tests, test keys for just one student, in just one grade, you are talking about a good sized box of printed materials. Homeschoolers tend to rely less on computer classes and more on hands-on stuff. And, how about the chemistry sets, electronic kits, geology specimen kits, map puzzles, etc.?
Downloading is great, and so is printing, not arguing about that, but many are going to want professionally printed materials for their bindings, durability, and color photos.
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
Really? If 40 % of parents tried to print all their instructional materials, wouldn't there be a run on printers, ink, notebooks, etc.? If you look at a typical year's supply of texts, teacher's manuals, workbooks, tests, test keys for just one student, in just one grade, you are talking about a good sized box of printed materials. Homeschoolers tend to rely less on computer classes and more on hands-on stuff. And, how about the chemistry sets, electronic kits, geology specimen kits, map puzzles, etc.?
Downloading is great, and so is printing, not arguing about that, but many are going to want professionally printed materials for their bindings, durability, and color photos.

Uh, it's not as if the parents would need the entire year's supply of stuff the first day of classes. They could just print it out as needed, a day or at most a week ahead.
 

seraphima

Veteran Member
Uh, it's not as if the parents would need the entire year's supply of stuff the first day of classes. They could just print it out as needed, a day or at most a week ahead.
Yes, you are right. As long as they have printers, ink, paper, binders, etc. Just trying to put the massive amount of time and materials, which could be in short supply, in perspective.
 

biere

Veteran Member
Concur on stock up on everything. When this first started I hit up walmart for deoderant and body and foot powder and shampoo and soap and other basic stuffs. I already tend to stock some. Well, I kinda figure this might be a shortage/ price went way up problem for years.

With people not driving as much I can't decide what to do on tires. Come fall I have winter tires I will put on van. I will decide by then what I want to do on tires for spring. Current tire will be not terrible but not great by this fall.

I kinda expect I buy myself 4 tires for spring and even if I put current ones back on I won't care about my tires. Current ones are from korea and I don't wanna pay tripple price for a set of tires and I sure don't want to hear they can't get em.

Oil, filters, cleaners, and assorted stuff like repair kits for toilets and faucets you may as well buy now and sit aside. And oil and filters go for cars, trucks, mowers, oil for gun or whatever.

I am trying to decide what to do on a laptop. I was kinda in the market when this hit and just kept limping my desk top along. I want portability again is the thing, but with lockdown portability became less of a concern.

The spare parts for electronics that I used to consider disposable is an interesting thing to research.

I am hearing canning jars and lids are hard to find as well.

Basically any money I planned to put in savings this year is going to go towards supplies. I am thankful in this pandemic I can still have ups bring me things.
 

Wildwood

Veteran Member
We spent everything we could safely spare early while the supplies and the prices were good. I'm a list maker and started doing inventory and list making to top off preps very early on. We put most of our money in food and garden supplies and finally got that saw mill DH had been needing. If we spend more it will be on a couple pairs of new jeans for both of us and some t-shirts to put up...we are good now. Also more shoe goo and iron on patches and a couple fans to put up. The fans will go in storage just in case.

We would like to add some more solar...what we have is on a big panel truck we use for our business and it has all that battery/inverter mumbo jumbo I don't understand at all. It has a small living space with all the comforts of home red neck style...not pretty but functional.
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
On home schooling, any thoughts on this?

It's been around quite a while and is fairly popular. It lacks the math part, so people using RC commonly get Saxon Math for that. The latter is supposed to be so-so. Overall, Ron Paul's/Trivium and a few others easily findable have better reps, I think.
 

twobarkingdogs

Veteran Member
If China gets into it with Taiwan and the island becomes embroiled in war, same with Hong Kong, what strategic products do they supply the western world that we can't live without? I wonder what proprietary technology China might end up with.

The problem I see is that most anything that plugs in today now have computer circuit boards in them. And a lot of computer boards are made in china. If the supply every shuts down I believe that will be the weak link for repairing broken items

tbd
 

DannyBoy

Veteran Member
Concur on stock up on everything. When this first started I hit up walmart for deoderant and body and foot powder and shampoo and soap and other basic stuffs. I already tend to stock some. Well, I kinda figure this might be a shortage/ price went way up problem for years.

With people not driving as much I can't decide what to do on tires. Come fall I have winter tires I will put on van. I will decide by then what I want to do on tires for spring. Current tire will be not terrible but not great by this fall.

I kinda expect I buy myself 4 tires for spring and even if I put current ones back on I won't care about my tires. Current ones are from korea and I don't wanna pay tripple price for a set of tires and I sure don't want to hear they can't get em.

Oil, filters, cleaners, and assorted stuff like repair kits for toilets and faucets you may as well buy now and sit aside. And oil and filters go for cars, trucks, mowers, oil for gun or whatever.

I am trying to decide what to do on a laptop. I was kinda in the market when this hit and just kept limping my desk top along. I want portability again is the thing, but with lockdown portability became less of a concern.

The spare parts for electronics that I used to consider disposable is an interesting thing to research.

I am hearing canning jars and lids are hard to find as well.

Basically any money I planned to put in savings this year is going to go towards supplies. I am thankful in this pandemic I can still have ups bring me things.
I 'think' you are OK on tires... many are made around the world, some China, but last I knew, certainly not the majority.
 

biere

Veteran Member
Yes and no is my answer. Kumho is brand I have now and while not astounding they seem to have done ok. Still debating that as I finish using em up.

Some raw materials may come from china is my main concern.

I am mostly watching. I don't worry so much buying at the cheapest, but if they start going up in price and are less available I may buy me some. Snow tires are in hand, bought on a deal during summer but not used this past winter cause winter was meh here.
 

Thinwater

Firearms Manufacturer
3d printers are in short supply. Many of the most popular are sold out with months long lead times. Since the China made printers are out, the market shifted to Chez and American made units so these are months out now also.
 

Walrus Whisperer

Hope in chains...
Yes on notions, have been ordering supplies and everything is already low. Glue sticks, buttons, felt, elastic, zippers, ribbon, appliques ALL China made. And thanks on heads up on cotton issues due to locusts, got the order in for quilt batting! Already restocked on cotton thread back in March, will get more! Get your stuff now. Just got 5 yards of lovely flannel on ebay for making warm winter sheets! There are some good fabrics there but you have to add in shipping.
There are substitutes for batting, thin: flannel sheets. Thicker, pick the blanket thickness u want. Less than desireable maybe, if it's all their is, then that's all there is. Check thrift stores especially
 

Txkstew

Veteran Member
Bought me another small window AC unit at Walmart for $139. That gives me two of the three I want to store up for the future. They had 18 on a pallet in the aisle. Made in China. I hate that fact.

A few years ago, these same units sold for $89. This was the price for a long time, then they went up each of the last few years, to $99, then $104, then $126, now $139. They're only good for maybe 4 seasons.
 

Terrwyn

Veteran Member
If China gets into it with Taiwan and the island becomes embroiled in war, same with Hong Kong, what strategic products do they supply the western world that we can't live without? I wonder what proprietary technology China might end up with.
One of the things I will miss is my pound of loose Silver Needle tea I buy several times a year. There are other kinds of white tea and I'm fairly well stocked for 6 months or so but for crying out loud this is getting to be a pain in the but for this spoiled American.
 

West

Senior
Bought me another small window AC unit at Walmart for $139. That gives me two of the three I want to store up for the future. They had 18 on a pallet in the aisle. Made in China. I hate that fact.

A few years ago, these same units sold for $89. This was the price for a long time, then they went up each of the last few years, to $99, then $104, then $126, now $139. They're only good for maybe 4 seasons.

It's tricky on the newer window ACs, but the main reason they are only good for a season or 4 is dirt, skin, dander, etc...

No matter if you keep the cheap filters clean and even have a clean house with no pets or kids. You got to tare the thing down and clean it.

The newer systems also are designed to splash the condensate on to the condensor coils, where it forms calcium or alike and plugs the condensor.

I've got three window units, one is a 1970s model, and two made with in the last decade. They work great!

But with each one, I simply tare them down and clean them, when I use them a lot, or they start declining in efficiency.
 

Seeker22

Has No Life - Lives on TB
There are substitutes for batting, thin: flannel sheets. Thicker, pick the blanket thickness u want. Less than desireable maybe, if it's all their is, then that's all there is. Check thrift stores especially

I am definitely not a quilt snob and don't do quilt shows, so my main concern is keeping warm. I buy a cheap comforter at the thrift and sew the quilt top to it. Use a sheet for the backing. I just granny tie here and there, although you could quilt it properly if you wanted.

You can also sew a quilt top like a duvet cover and stuff the comforter in. Button the top and then washing is easier because you can wash the cover separately. This is good for denim quilt tops. These things are heavy when wet.

Flannel sheets make great circle skirts with elastic or drawstring waists. I have a pattern for a patchwork skirt and also one done in strips or tiers. I have enough old stuff in totes to last awhile.

My patterns are kept where they will stay dry and not be food to families of mice. Rolls of brown paper or as Summerthyme suggested in a thread or two, fusible webbing, can be used to create another spare pattern. Get rolls of that while you can, another one from China. Sigh.
 
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Seeker22

Has No Life - Lives on TB
One of the things I will miss is my pound of loose Silver Needle tea I buy several times a year. There are other kinds of white tea and I'm fairly well stocked for 6 months or so but for crying out loud this is getting to be a pain in the but for this spoiled American.

Try Ebay, it's still out there.
 

Green Co.

Administrator
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Yesterday I had a new pair (spare) of glasses done, $400+. That's just for single vision, medium priced frames. I dread next week, gonna get the wife an extra pair, she wears tri-focals.

I checked, frames made in US, lenses in Laos.
 
The newer systems also are designed to splash the condensate on to the condensor coils, where it forms calcium or alike and plugs the condensor.
You will get dust and whatnot in the condensate, but there should be no calcium, as it is in effect distilled water.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Good grief! Go to Zennioptical.com! You can get 3 *good quality* pairs for that price!
Depends on what you want for lenses. For example, I have a VERY high correction and want the thinnest lenses I can get. Further, I can't see with polycarbonate lenses AT ALL. The quality of the material is such that I just can't use them. Thus lenses for me (even single vision) are about $500. (I have to use Zeiss lenses.)
 
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