PRYR RQST My mother is in the hospital and they are not sure what's wrong. Covid vax recently. UPDATE, post 131

nomifyle

TB Fanatic
I despise the younger docs & nurses. Not at all what they are supposed to be.
I hope your mom is gonna be okay.
Medical schools are supported by pharmaceutical companies, a larger part of a medical school education is pharmacology. I worked in a large medical school for ten years.

God is good all the time

Judy
 

nomifyle

TB Fanatic
Prayers.
It seems they, the medical industrial complex, are advocating death rather than life.
One of the 1st questions I'm asked when seeing any doctor is, "do you have a living will?"
No asshole, I don't plan on needing one. Why, are you?
Yes I know why I probably should have one. But it's disturbing that they push it. Like it's and easy out and my distrust of them wonders if it's a CYA for their proclivity towards malpractice.
I don't have a living will and neither does DH. We can speak for each other.

Why do you think you need a living will?

Judy
 

FireDance

TB Fanatic
I went through the same with my husband when he had cancer spread to his brain. He knew what he wanted to say, but the words just did not come out right. One evening we left the hospital and all was well and a couple of hours later the phone rang and it was the nurse and she said your husband is upset and we don't know why and all he said was call my wife and so our daughter and son went with me and I walked into his room and it was like an oven. Somebody turned the heat way too high. They had him propped up in bed and he was kind of falling over. We had to get somebody to turn the heat off, and we fixed his bed, gave him some water, and made sure everything was fine, and when we left I told the nurse he needs to go to the restroom and she said she would go, and I told my kids, she is not going, so we went around the corner and waited a few minutes, and then went and stood where she could see us and stared at her, and she went to take care of him.
Gosh. Maybe those new nurses they’re going to hire on green cards will be more compassionate. Bawahaha.
 

FireDance

TB Fanatic
More info on her condition.

Her heart rate has been very all over the place. From a low of 55 to a high of 144 by my brothers observations. Her blood pressure went anywhere from a low of 105/50 to a high of 210/90. Both stats changed drastically with every update.

My brother was a 25 year surgical assistant/scrub tech so he knows this stuff very well.

During the course of the night my brother mentioned to the PA and some doctors that she recently had the vax and could that play into her conditions. In all cases they responded with "OH really, we will talk about that later". There has yet to be a response. It appears they are all following protocol to this question.
Jerks
 
So my mom will be 80 in a few days. She had her vax shots recently but its been a month or more I believe. (ETA: Its been about 2 to 4 weeks, sorry I just recieved this information.) I am 750 miles away from where she lives so have limited knowledge thus far. Just happened a couple hours ago.

Prayers would be greatly appreciated. She is and has been a hard working pillar in the life of so many people and helps everyone she can at all times. She would give you her last meal knowing she was going to starve to death because she would not want you to suffer. She is over weight but the doctors have told her on checkups that she has a heart and cardiovascular system of someone in their 20's. She stays very active. She goes dancing a couple times or more every week. Always has.

My brother is there with her and says she has a high fever and was very disoriented plus having trouble breathing. Also she was shaking badly and had no coordination.

My niece who is an RN (conservative and will not take the shot) said if you have had the Vax shots she is pretty sure they will not list you as having Covid even if you do have it. She has no proof but she is in the industry so....

They have tested my mother for things I am not yet informed of and admitted her but have not given any reason for her condition. They only asked if she wanted to be kept alive under various situations.

Freaking doctors are assholes these days. They will not tell you much of anything. They just expect you to do as they say and not question their authority.

On a side note of Covid vax shots a friend I was with this evening said two of his buddies have died recently two days after their Covid Vax shots. One was 40 and in excellent shape. He had a heart attack. The second was around 40 also in excellent shape and died in his sleep and they never disclosed the cause of death. Also my brothers mom in law had her shots and not long after had blood clots in her legs. Coincidence? Who knows?
I think it's the shot that affected her. Sorry, but too many cases to be coincidence.
 

bassgirl

Veteran Member
When my hubby passed at home, he was still alive when I called 911 but he had been gone a few minutes before they got here. I had to finally make them stop working on him after 45 minutes. Then they wanted to take him to the hospital!! I said no and they called the coroner. He did not have a DNR but geeze, 45 minutes and knowing some of his medical history I could not figure out why they worked so long at trying to bring him back. If they had succeeded his brain would be gone from lack of 02 anyway.
They have to by law. You called for help,they have to help. If they just showed up and did nothing they would be in the wrong.
 

tm1439m

Veteran Member
Thanks for all the prayers and comments. Sorry I have not reported back sooner.

So it turns out my mother had two issues the day she got sick.

First she had not eaten like she needs to and her sugar got all whacked out. She is type two diabetic.

Second she developed some sort of blood infection that supposedly caused part of her condition.

If she had made it home that day before things went south for her she would almost surely not be here today.

She is doing fine now as best I can tell from 700 miles away.

Thanks again!!
 

West

Senior
More prayers being sent.

It's been over a month now and my mothers arm is still ****ed up from the shot. To the point she can't use her arm with out major pain pills, that she refuses to use, only once she tried them and was able to at least pick stuff up again.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Here’s where I weigh in on the absolute raving hysteria surrounding the Covid vax. This rant isn’t just for you, but for everyone.

OH MY GAAAWWWWD! MY _____________ IS SICK! IT’S GOT TO BE THE VAAAAAAAAAAAXXXXXX!!!!!!!!


No, it doesn’t. And chances are 99% that it isn’t. But many people these days are RIGHT ON THE EDGE of losing their minds in the classic sense of the term. How many “People need to get a grip” threads have I posted in the past few years? I sit here reading the forum over time and see people who’ve been rock-stable mentally go right over the edge.

The Covid vaccine isn't the cause of every malady. Thinking it is, is crazy. You people need to stop that, or you’ll drive yourselves into permanent psychosis. Is that the way you want to finish your lives?

Just STOP IT.
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
(1) - First she had not eaten like she needs to and her sugar got all whacked out. She is type two diabetic.

(2) - Second she developed some sort of blood infection that supposedly caused part of her condition.

Just a "possible" heads up!!

My father was in the same boat, i.e.: Elderly (91 y/o), Type 2 diabetic and kept having some sort of systemic infection the doctors couldn't nail down. Three times in about six months he was found unconscious in his home. Hospitalized and had no memory of any of the events that put him there. Stubborn old coot that insisted on living alone. Mom passed about 12 years back.

Come to find out he DOES have Dementia, something DW and I BOTH suspected about three years back, voiced our opinion, but were told by younger siblings who lived near him that we didn't know what we were talking about. Well guess what.....Father does have Dementia...AND, wasn't eating right, wasn't taking his insulin as he should...AND WAS REUSING INSULIN NEEDLES!! (Depression Era parent trying to save money!! Which nearly killed him!)

After third hospitalization we put our foot down and younger siblings FINALLY woke up (in a good way)! Dad could no long live alone. Has to be supervised and checked on regularly. We now have him in a REALLY NICE assisted living facility. He has his own studio apartment. Lives much closer to a family member (maybe 3 miles away) and hasn't had any repeat of above problems since the move. Unfortunately his Dementia has progressed to the later stages and there's nothing we can do about that.

But at least he's as safe as we can make him and hopefully we won't find him dead on the floor from lack of care. Oh and BTW, we got him one of those glucose monitor systems you wear and is linked to my brother and sister-in law's cellphones so Dad can be remotely monitored at all times and warnings are sent out if he starts to get out of balance.

Hope this helps. If she is reusing her insulin needles she will get a blood infection. You can't rely on what she is saying to you. I would suggest you have her evaluated for Dementia and anything that might be related to memory loss. It can creep up on them without being overtly obvious, especially to people that see them frequently. The changes are slow and over time, so much that it's easily missed until it can't be missed.

BEST OF LUCK!!
 

ChicagoMan74

ULTRA MAGA
Here’s where I weigh in on the absolute raving hysteria surrounding the Covid vax. This rant isn’t just for you, but for everyone.

OH MY GAAAWWWWD! MY _____________ IS SICK! IT’S GOT TO BE THE VAAAAAAAAAAAXXXXXX!!!!!!!!


No, it doesn’t. And chances are 99% that it isn’t. But many people these days are RIGHT ON THE EDGE of losing their minds in the classic sense of the term. How many “People need to get a grip” threads have I posted in the past few years? I sit here reading the forum over time and see people who’ve been rock-stable mentally go right over the edge.

The Covid vaccine isn't the cause of every malady. Thinking it is, is crazy. You people need to stop that, or you’ll drive yourselves into permanent psychosis. Is that the way you want to finish your lives?

Just STOP IT.
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Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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Here’s where I weigh in on the absolute raving hysteria surrounding the Covid vax. This rant isn’t just for you, but for everyone.

OH MY GAAAWWWWD! MY _____________ IS SICK! IT’S GOT TO BE THE VAAAAAAAAAAAXXXXXX!!!!!!!!


No, it doesn’t. And chances are 99% that it isn’t. But many people these days are RIGHT ON THE EDGE of losing their minds in the classic sense of the term. How many “People need to get a grip” threads have I posted in the past few years? I sit here reading the forum over time and see people who’ve been rock-stable mentally go right over the edge.

The Covid vaccine isn't the cause of every malady. Thinking it is, is crazy. You people need to stop that, or you’ll drive yourselves into permanent psychosis. Is that the way you want to finish your lives?

Just STOP IT.

Easy there Boss, yer gonna start chewing off your own fingers all ramped up like that.

Here, a nice image to relax you...
 

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packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Just a "possible" heads up!!

My father was in the same boat, i.e.: Elderly (91 y/o), Type 2 diabetic and kept having some sort of systemic infection the doctors couldn't nail down. Three times in about six months he was found unconscious in his home. Hospitalized and had no memory of any of the events that put him there. Stubborn old coot that insisted on living alone. Mom passed about 12 years back.

Come to find out he DOES have Dementia, something DW and I BOTH suspected about three years back, voiced our opinion, but were told by younger siblings who lived near him that we didn't know what we were talking about. Well guess what.....Father does have Dementia...AND, wasn't eating right, wasn't taking his insulin as he should...AND WAS REUSING INSULIN NEEDLES!! (Depression Era parent trying to save money!! Which nearly killed him!)

After third hospitalization we put our foot down and younger siblings FINALLY woke up (in a good way)! Dad could no long live alone. Has to be supervised and checked on regularly. We now have him in a REALLY NICE assisted living facility. He has his own studio apartment. Lives much closer to a family member (maybe 3 miles away) and hasn't had any repeat of above problems since the move. Unfortunately his Dementia has progressed to the later stages and there's nothing we can do about that.

But at least he's as safe as we can make him and hopefully we won't find him dead on the floor from lack of care. Oh and BTW, we got him one of those glucose monitor systems you wear and is linked to my brother and sister-in law's cellphones so Dad can be remotely monitored at all times and warnings are sent out if he starts to get out of balance.

Hope this helps. If she is reusing her insulin needles she will get a blood infection. You can't rely on what she is saying to you. I would suggest you have her evaluated for Dementia and anything that might be related to memory loss. It can creep up on them without being overtly obvious, especially to people that see them frequently. The changes are slow and over time, so much that it's easily missed until it can't be missed.

BEST OF LUCK!!

egads you just described what happened with my dad, except my mom had died six years earlier. We kept insisting to my brother that something was wrong, I live 7.5 hours away, but no my all intelligent sister in law kept insisting that everything was fine, until it wasn't. She'll get hers, eventually.
 

tm1439m

Veteran Member
Just a "possible" heads up!!

My father was in the same boat, i.e.: Elderly (91 y/o), Type 2 diabetic and kept having some sort of systemic infection the doctors couldn't nail down. Three times in about six months he was found unconscious in his home. Hospitalized and had no memory of any of the events that put him there. Stubborn old coot that insisted on living alone. Mom passed about 12 years back.

Come to find out he DOES have Dementia, something DW and I BOTH suspected about three years back, voiced our opinion, but were told by younger siblings who lived near him that we didn't know what we were talking about. Well guess what.....Father does have Dementia...AND, wasn't eating right, wasn't taking his insulin as he should...AND WAS REUSING INSULIN NEEDLES!! (Depression Era parent trying to save money!! Which nearly killed him!)

After third hospitalization we put our foot down and younger siblings FINALLY woke up (in a good way)! Dad could no long live alone. Has to be supervised and checked on regularly. We now have him in a REALLY NICE assisted living facility. He has his own studio apartment. Lives much closer to a family member (maybe 3 miles away) and hasn't had any repeat of above problems since the move. Unfortunately his Dementia has progressed to the later stages and there's nothing we can do about that.

But at least he's as safe as we can make him and hopefully we won't find him dead on the floor from lack of care. Oh and BTW, we got him one of those glucose monitor systems you wear and is linked to my brother and sister-in law's cellphones so Dad can be remotely monitored at all times and warnings are sent out if he starts to get out of balance.

Hope this helps. If she is reusing her insulin needles she will get a blood infection. You can't rely on what she is saying to you. I would suggest you have her evaluated for Dementia and anything that might be related to memory loss. It can creep up on them without being overtly obvious, especially to people that see them frequently. The changes are slow and over time, so much that it's easily missed until it can't be missed.

BEST OF LUCK!!
Thanks for the heads up.

My mom takes pills if I remember correctly not needles. So at least that is not an issue.

I do think she is slowly forgetting things. Shes old and its gonna happen. She is hard headed as well and will not give in without a fight that I am sure of. She is one very independent woman.
 

tm1439m

Veteran Member
Here’s where I weigh in on the absolute raving hysteria surrounding the Covid vax. This rant isn’t just for you, but for everyone.

OH MY GAAAWWWWD! MY _____________ IS SICK! IT’S GOT TO BE THE VAAAAAAAAAAAXXXXXX!!!!!!!!


No, it doesn’t. And chances are 99% that it isn’t. But many people these days are RIGHT ON THE EDGE of losing their minds in the classic sense of the term. How many “People need to get a grip” threads have I posted in the past few years? I sit here reading the forum over time and see people who’ve been rock-stable mentally go right over the edge.

The Covid vaccine isn't the cause of every malady. Thinking it is, is crazy. You people need to stop that, or you’ll drive yourselves into permanent psychosis. Is that the way you want to finish your lives?

Just STOP IT.
I do not disagree with you at all. My post included the vax issues only because its the going thing and I knew it was going to come up. So I included any info I thought might answer those questions. I am not vaxed nor do I plan to at this time but I never ever had a flue shot either and have never been sick. Blessed with a very strong immune system. I may pay the price some day but I will take my chances. :D
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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I WAS vaxxed. J&J. I discussed the reason why. No side effects at all. A bump at the injection site that lasted two days. Bear in mind that’s just me.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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egads you just described what happened with my dad, except my mom had died six years earlier. We kept insisting to my brother that something was wrong, I live 7.5 hours away, but no my all intelligent sister in law kept insisting that everything was fine, until it wasn't. She'll get hers, eventually.
To be fair, changes in cognition are often very gradually, and best recognized through 20-20 hindsight! My Dad was diagnosed with Alzheimers at 73. But looking back, he was showing very early signs at least 15 years earlier. When he was 55, he helped us rebuild after our house fire. He did all the heating, plumbing and electrical work, and mostly did his usual OCD perfect job. But... he hooked up the well pump to 220... it was ac110 volt pump! And there were a couple other "mistakes" which were relatively minor, but which he would have NEVER done in earlier years.

Until at least 2-3 after his diagnosis, no one who didn’t know him well would have ever known there was anything wrong. He was still able to carry on an intelligent conversation, and act appropriately.

Not saying your relative isn't a royal beotch, but it isn't always as obvious as those who only see the person infrequently... when the changes can be startling.

Summerthyme
 

SpokaneMan

Veteran Member
I WAS vaxxed. J&J. I discussed the reason why. No side effects at all. A bump at the injection site that lasted two days. Bear in mind that’s just me.
Have you tried the self magnet test yet? I can't understand why anybody would be so willing to trust the Fauchi and Gates patented (10 years ago) so called vaccination. It's not actually a vaccination. It is a Bio weapon AFAICT. The bastards are eugenicists. You just might have to eat crow within the next couple of years. Would love to hear about it. I hope you survive.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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I’m not that mentally weak.
See, I don't get that. This is the second time you've given a slightly-more-educated-sounding version of one of my idiot FILs core beliefs. The fact that it cost him tens of thousands of dollars was irrelevant (and believe me, they weren't rich). By GOD! If he knew something was right, you weren't gonna confuse him with facts! And he sure as hell wasn't going to investigate for himself... He was never what you'd call open minded, but he got a lot worse once he hit 55...

I guess I was just born with a classical scientific mind. If I had access to people who have had the vaccine, I'd be getting every one of them to try small magnets, as well as small iron objects. Why not? *That's how we prove or disprove this stuff*

I don't have an opinion on it, so I wouldn't feel like I was eating crow no matter how it turned out... If pushed, I guess I'd say (about the magnetism/potential metals at injection site) its HIGHLY unlikely, but not impossible, and I'd like to see an objective study done on it. Sadly, if a known anonymous straight-shooter on the internet, and the NIH or CDC did a study, I'd believe the internet anon more than either of the others...

Summerthyme
 

there

Senior Member
Dennis mowing all that grass, cutting of the hair, dealing with Hairy eating out of your mouth and the list goes on but don't worry there must be a cure out there somewhere for you. :kiss:

Stay calm :bhd:

I will continue to hide here down under in Oz
 

FireDance

TB Fanatic
To be fair, changes in cognition are often very gradually, and best recognized through 20-20 hindsight! My Dad was diagnosed with Alzheimers at 73. But looking back, he was showing very early signs at least 15 years earlier. When he was 55, he helped us rebuild after our house fire. He did all the heating, plumbing and electrical work, and mostly did his usual OCD perfect job. But... he hooked up the well pump to 220... it was ac110 volt pump! And there were a couple other "mistakes" which were relatively minor, but which he would have NEVER done in earlier years.

Until at least 2-3 after his diagnosis, no one who didn’t know him well would have ever known there was anything wrong. He was still able to carry on an intelligent conversation, and act appropriately.

Not saying your relative isn't a royal beotch, but it isn't always as obvious as those who only see the person infrequently... when the changes can be startling.

Summerthyme
Had the same situation with my grandmother. She might be in the middle of cussing one of us like a sailor (atypical to say the least). However, if a neighbor came over? You could NOT tell there was anything wrong with her. It was almost like being with a drug addict lying to the police. It was soooo strange!

But looking back? I can see a multitude of signs that something was wrong for quite a while
and none of us caught it.

Do not let this sneak up on you. I would make an appointment with a geriatric doc NOW and take her. Don’t wait until it grabs you by the neck like it did us. I ended up having to commit my grandmother to Geri psych at the hospital against her will for evaluation. Worst night of my life.

Call a geriatric doc NOW. It can be a long wait to get an appointment. You can take her to her doc, but you need to tip them off as to the problem so they can do testing (paper tests) to see if that may be the problem. But please don’t let it wait.

Prayers for you on this. It’s a long, long row to hoe. It’s almost like they don’t give you a hoe.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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See, I don't get that. This is the second time you've given a slightly-more-educated-sounding version of one of my idiot FILs core beliefs. The fact that it cost him tens of thousands of dollars was irrelevant (and believe me, they weren't rich). By GOD! If he knew something was right, you weren't gonna confuse him with facts! And he sure as hell wasn't going to investigate for himself... He was never what you'd call open minded, but he got a lot worse once he hit 55...

I guess I was just born with a classical scientific mind. If I had access to people who have had the vaccine, I'd be getting every one of them to try small magnets, as well as small iron objects. Why not? *That's how we prove or disprove this stuff*
That’s a crazy bunch of shit right there. You sound nutty just saying it. I *AM* a scientist and engineer. I don’t do crazy shit.

This is a closed topic for me.
 
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