naegling62
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Correct, it has been my experience though that Indian doctors are more willing to think outside the box.
PRYR RQST My mother is in the hospital and they are not sure what's wrong. Covid vax recently. UPDATE, post 131
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naegling62
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Exactly, this seems to be a common observation.
Looks Harmless
Bite Me
Prayers.
It seems they, the medical industrial complex, are advocating death rather than life.
One of the 1st questions I'm asked when seeing any doctor is, "do you have a living will?"
No asshole, I don't plan on needing one. Why, are you?
Yes I know why I probably should have one. But it's disturbing that they push it. Like it's and easy out and my distrust of them wonders if it's a CYA for their proclivity towards malpractice.
It seems they, the medical industrial complex, are advocating death rather than life.
One of the 1st questions I'm asked when seeing any doctor is, "do you have a living will?"
No asshole, I don't plan on needing one. Why, are you?
Yes I know why I probably should have one. But it's disturbing that they push it. Like it's and easy out and my distrust of them wonders if it's a CYA for their proclivity towards malpractice.
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Oh yeah. I have no medical background, but anyone just being there makes a difference. I was with my husband every single day he was in the hospital and they KNEW I was gonna be there. The difference in his treatment as compared to the patients who were alone was astounding.
mzkitty
I give up.
I hope your mom pulls through whatever it is, TM. 
My son and I are glad we didn't get the vax. And won't. Glad my doctor didn't press the issue when I told her I'd wait and see.
Almost all my stuff is done at the hospital, and they're still masking up there and making you pass your wrist through the temperature thingy at the front door. I wonder how many hospital workers have had adverse reactions themselves, but we'll never know.
My son and I are glad we didn't get the vax. And won't. Glad my doctor didn't press the issue when I told her I'd wait and see.
Almost all my stuff is done at the hospital, and they're still masking up there and making you pass your wrist through the temperature thingy at the front door. I wonder how many hospital workers have had adverse reactions themselves, but we'll never know.
SouthernBreeze
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Sending prayers from our corner! So scary.
223shootersc
Veteran Member
Prayers sent!
ChicagoMan74
ULTRA MAGA
It goes against the narrative for a lot of folks here...but I work for a major healthcare system and can tell you that the level of severe events for healthcare workers who have rcvd the COVID vax is comparable to the regular flu vaccines.
Normallguy
"just a human bein'"
Praying.
I believe that completely. The difference is that Covid (and vax) were politicized from the beginning, earning the distrust of the majority of people.
Tennessee gal
Veteran Member
I’m so thankful to the Lord for giving my niece the wisdom to make good decisions when I was so critical last winter in the hospital . She couldn’t be there, but she had the staff install a camera so she could watch me on her computer from home. She also communicated with the doctors and nursing staff regularly .
She was a wonderful advocate for me.
Prayers for your dear mother, your family and her medical team.
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Tennessee gal
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Dennis, this is just a thought about your heart rate after mowing.
I went to see my family doctor for a follow up from my cortid artery surgery in January 2016. I had to stop and rest 3 times before I got to his office. I told him that day we were missing something. He did an EKG and found A-Fib. I was in to see a cardiologist the next day and was in the hospital that evening . My family doctor said I could have been in and out of A-Fib for a long time but they just didn’t catch it.
Dennis, you are well loved by your TB family. Praying for you.
Mprepared
Veteran Member
As a medical transcriptionist doing this for over 20 years, I have seen it change and the talk of death to people who want help and quality of life, like they have any idea what kind of quality of life a person has. I know if they decide comfort care only, they are doomed. People thought my mother had no quality of life since blind. She went blind in her 20s and got married, raised kids, cooked, cleaned, listened to TV, talked to people on the phone, had a real life and then grandchildren, but doctors treated her like nobody wanted her and my brother and I fought hard to keep them taking care of her.
Mprepared
Veteran Member
Same with nursing home residents.
AnniePutin
Veteran Member
Prayers for your mother!
Mprepared
Veteran Member
Nothing will put the brakes on them. They have decided to state a coincidence unless stop breathing in that window frame of 15 minutes waiting and even then, have some sorry excuse. Now the new dementia drug. Just wait, will be bad. They are after old people, after the baby boomers. Too much money going out in SS. Too many on disability. This whole COVID thing may have been just for the 1955 baby boomers, the middle number I think I read and after those born in 1955 the number to start receving SS was going to skyrocket, and last year was happy birthday for those turning 65 and a happy birthday present of COVID. No proof, but I do not trust anything this government does.
Raggedyman
Res ipsa loquitur
I am late to this unhappy thread. joining in prayer with those of many others here. THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES. we are the lab rats for an untested binary bio-weapon. those who perpetrated this SCAM/CRIME on global pop should be executed.
along with our prayers for you mother I am sending up a special request chit that FATHER permits us to see JUSTICE delivered this side of the river rather than in the afterlife.
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ohiohippie
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Thinking of y’all and praying.
Josie
Has No Life - Lives on TB
It pains me to say it but medical care, especially in hospitals, is now a business. Everything done is about the bottom line. And too many times, if a patient doesn't have an advocate, the staff will decide that the outcome, no matter what is done, won't be good. The treatment is then changed to get the institution the best outcome.
In the old days, doctor's and nurses would depend on their experience and knowledge to make decisions. Because of legal practices now, every test under the sun will be done to rule things out or to cover the physician's butt incase of a lawsuit. The older and more experienced docs know that the patient most likely has a UTI but we need that MRI to rule out any cancer. Hospitals never yell about it as long as insurance or Medicare will pick up the tab. Specialist rarely talk to each other unless the family insists. In theory, those hospitalists (usually foreign and hired by the hospital) are supposed to over see the total patient care but generally they have a hard time with the language, so nothing is done on their end. They also understand who pays their salary and don't rock the boat. PA's are a cheaper alternative than a physician. Some are good and others not so good. It used to be that the PA programs were very hard and elite. Only the best of the best would make it through. Now days, even that is a business so they crank them out as quick as possible.
In the old days, doctor's and nurses would depend on their experience and knowledge to make decisions. Because of legal practices now, every test under the sun will be done to rule things out or to cover the physician's butt incase of a lawsuit. The older and more experienced docs know that the patient most likely has a UTI but we need that MRI to rule out any cancer. Hospitals never yell about it as long as insurance or Medicare will pick up the tab. Specialist rarely talk to each other unless the family insists. In theory, those hospitalists (usually foreign and hired by the hospital) are supposed to over see the total patient care but generally they have a hard time with the language, so nothing is done on their end. They also understand who pays their salary and don't rock the boat. PA's are a cheaper alternative than a physician. Some are good and others not so good. It used to be that the PA programs were very hard and elite. Only the best of the best would make it through. Now days, even that is a business so they crank them out as quick as possible.
Also late to your thread and sorry to hear that this has happened. I couldn't help but think, though, that this sounds so similar to the various news reports after some islamic has gone berserk and killed a bunch of innocent civilians e.g. "the authorities have not been able to identify any motive behind the killing of four women and two children in a supermarket by Mohammed Shahid Mujahideen Mohammed who was screaming "allahu akhbar" and "infidel" as he knifed the victims to death.
Mary Contrary
Inactive
I agree.
Prayers for your SIL, Barry. I can't believe they discharged her!
What a great idea! Thank you for sharing the idea of a camera.
Mprepared
Veteran Member
And a lot of people are happy and even ask for these scans and have no idea the damage being done to their kidneys from the dye.
annieosage
Inactive
I cannot say this enough- if they haven't checked her for a UTI- demand they do so. I mean this with no disrespect but when my Mom had a UTI she was bat shit crazy. I mean some of the stuff she said was out of this world- literally. Not to mention talking about people who had passed like they were alive- Mike, my Dad, my brother.
Even if this isn't the original cause of her issues, the fact that she is not lucid means she could have developed one while laying in bed.
Adding my prayers for you all.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
All hospitals ask this now, they also ask if you have an end of life directive, wills, etc. They asked OC this when he had his knee replacement surgery, and they asked me this when I had my cardiac event April of 2020.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
This is a very common side affect in the elderly when it comes to UTI's.
If you have no directive, they must try to keep you alive.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Yep, and then cue in the lawsuits. What the cardiac doc told me is if you tell them you do not want to be kept alive, with witnesses abound, they will have you sign a waiver and they can let you go if you go into cardiac arrest. I of course wanted to be kept alive, I've still got a lot of years left in me and a bucket list of places I want to visit before I keel off this mortal plane.
SamGribley
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Prayer said.
Looks Harmless
Bite Me
And you damned well better have an advocate with you, obviously, when do no harm becomes do nothing.
Sherrynboo
Veteran Member
When my hubby passed at home, he was still alive when I called 911 but he had been gone a few minutes before they got here. I had to finally make them stop working on him after 45 minutes. Then they wanted to take him to the hospital!! I said no and they called the coroner. He did not have a DNR but geeze, 45 minutes and knowing some of his medical history I could not figure out why they worked so long at trying to bring him back. If they had succeeded his brain would be gone from lack of 02 anyway.