FARM My 2016 wood chip Garden

mecoastie

Veteran Member
Any of you longtime BTE'rs have an recommendations for the first year? I was planning on putting in mostly winter squash and just enough sweet corn for fresh eating.

I layered it thusly:
Multiple layers of newspaper
Chicken coop straw bedding (2-3 inches, it was mostly straw, and not so much poo, as it was the summer coop cleanout, and they spent most days outside all day)
Rotted 2 year old horse manure (just enough to mostly cover the coop bedding layer, guessing 1-2 inches?)
lawn clippings (probably 4-6 inches)
compost (probably 3 inches)
wood chips (most are ramial) about 6 inches deep

I am guessing I will just plant down in the compost, as the newspaper is still intact.......

First thought is wow that is a lot of stuff. I would be concerned with the amount of organic matter that is there. The lawn clippings may mat up and form tough layer to get through. I would plant under that in the horse manure and punch holes in the newspaper so the roots have an easy time running down into the soil. I would say that come next year you will have a great soil and planting area once that stuff rots down a bit.
 

Cyclonemom

Veteran Member
First thought is wow that is a lot of stuff. I would be concerned with the amount of organic matter that is there. The lawn clippings may mat up and form tough layer to get through. I would plant under that in the horse manure and punch holes in the newspaper so the roots have an easy time running down into the soil. I would say that come next year you will have a great soil and planting area once that stuff rots down a bit.

I should add, that these layers were laid down late last summer in September/October. The grass did mostly break down as far as I can find, and it has compacted down to about 7 inches total. Chickens currently have access to it, so they're adding some fertilizer as well. :)
 

mecoastie

Veteran Member
I should add, that these layers were laid down late last summer in September/October. The grass did mostly break down as far as I can find, and it has compacted down to about 7 inches total. Chickens currently have access to it, so they're adding some fertilizer as well. :)

OK that is awesome. I thought it was all fresh! Then I would plant through the newspaper in the soil.
 

China Connection

TB Fanatic
I have got big production from rock dust only in soil teaming with worms but lacking minerals.

Your wood chip contains a little over !% in mineral content. Seaweed dry weight, for example, has around 30%.

Rock dust is 100% mineral content.

All well and good to have loads of carbon for the soil but it is minerals that the plants need. Carbon can do wonders where the soil is only lacking biological activity to unlock minerals already present in the soil. However if the minerals are lacking in the soil than carbon is not the only thing needed.

The other thing has you seen an old load of sawdust that has been sitting in the same spot for years??????

Adding minerals and say blood meal and watch it get broken down. So much for carbon on its own.

Anyway, where I live a truckload of local chip costs a little over a hundred dollars.
 

PaulC

Contributing Member
In my experience, newspaper is broken down in about 60 days, here in East Texas. Cyclonemom, I think you are ready to plant.
 

psychrn

Senior Member
My wife is currently prepping a "straw bale garden", consisting of lining up straw bales on their side, sprinkling with 5-5-10 or some such fertilizer, and watering every day until the bale temp is 110-140 or something.
We have a bunch of heirloom sprouting seedlings in the house ready to plant. The cold weather the past few weeks seem to have inhibited the temp rise she is looking for.

Obviously, I am a bystander here, hoping for the best; I am being supportive and very happy she wants to learn to grow the most efficient way (our soil, even buying Miracle grow, etc., SUCKS). I put up a fence and will help make things for the tomatoes and viney plants to grow on.

Just more prepper stuff, I hope things grow this year. I'm glad you have found a way to grow well. Wishing you continued success!
 

mecoastie

Veteran Member
I have got big production from rock dust only in soil teaming with worms but lacking minerals.

Your wood chip contains a little over !% in mineral content. Seaweed dry weight, for example, has around 30%.

Rock dust is 100% mineral content.

All well and good to have loads of carbon for the soil but it is minerals that the plants need. Carbon can do wonders where the soil is only lacking biological activity to unlock minerals already present in the soil. However if the minerals are lacking in the soil than carbon is not the only thing needed.

The other thing has you seen an old load of sawdust that has been sitting in the same spot for years??????

Adding minerals and say blood meal and watch it get broken down. So much for carbon on its own.

Anyway, where I live a truckload of local chip costs a little over a hundred dollars.

Much of that rockdust is inert, the actual useful mineral content is much lower. Compare your rockdust to wood ash. You will find them similar. While the mineral content of ramial wood chips is lower per pound the fact that you are putting hundreds of pounds of wood chips on a plot makes up for it. Sure rockdust is more portable but it also doesnt help control evaportion, erosion, cultivate the good fungi and wormss etc like wood chips. Bloodmeal essentially gives plants a shot of nitrogen not much different that a commercial fertilizer, compost tea, diluted urine etc.
 

mecoastie

Veteran Member
My wife is currently prepping a "straw bale garden", consisting of lining up straw bales on their side, sprinkling with 5-5-10 or some such fertilizer, and watering every day until the bale temp is 110-140 or something.
We have a bunch of heirloom sprouting seedlings in the house ready to plant. The cold weather the past few weeks seem to have inhibited the temp rise she is looking for.

Obviously, I am a bystander here, hoping for the best; I am being supportive and very happy she wants to learn to grow the most efficient way (our soil, even buying Miracle grow, etc., SUCKS). I put up a fence and will help make things for the tomatoes and viney plants to grow on.

Just more prepper stuff, I hope things grow this year. I'm glad you have found a way to grow well. Wishing you continued success!

My uncle is trying this as well this year. He is pretty excited about it. They normally put a large garden in each year but he has MS and it is getting harder for him to do it so I hope it works and keeps him gardening for a while longer.
 

Coulter

Veteran Member
I didn't take this picture, but it looks like this. All other weeds I can either pull or rake out so easily. This one though - whew.

Looks like Bermuda grass to me.
Hard to kill.

Johnson grass is even worse.

I put clear plastic over about 50 by 75 foot area 4 years ago for solar weed killing. Left it on for 60 days a lot of them was 100 degrees plus.

Pulled it off and two weeks later here came the Johnson grass again.
 
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