CORONA MUST READ - Covid-19 had us all fooled, but now we might have finally found its secret.

Dennis Olson

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Covid-19 had us all fooled, but now we might have finally found its secret.
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Apr 5 · 8 min read


In the last 3–5 days, a mountain of anecdotal evidence has come out of NYC, Italy, Spain, etc. about COVID-19 and characteristics of patients who get seriously ill. It’s not only piling up but now leading to a general field-level consensus backed up by a few previously little-known studies that we’ve had it all wrong the whole time. Well, a few had some things eerily correct (cough Trump cough), especially with Hydroxychloroquine with Azithromicin, but we’ll get to that in a minute.

There is no ‘pneumonia’ nor ARDS. At least not the ARDS with established treatment protocols and procedures we’re familiar with. Ventilators are not only the wrong solution, but high pressure intubation can actually wind up causing more damage than without, not to mention complications from tracheal scarring and ulcers given the duration of intubation often required… They may still have a use in the immediate future for patients too far to bring back with this newfound knowledge, but moving forward a new treatment protocol needs to be established so we stop treating patients for the wrong disease.

The past 48 hours or so have seen a huge revelation: COVID-19 causes prolonged and progressive hypoxia (starving your body of oxygen) by binding to the heme groups in hemoglobin in your red blood cells. People are simply desaturating (losing o2 in their blood), and that’s what eventually leads to organ failures that kill them, not any form of ARDS or pneumonia. All the damage to the lungs you see in CT scans are from the release of oxidative iron from the hemes, this overwhelms the natural defenses against pulmonary oxidative stress and causes that nice, always-bilateral ground glass opacity in the lungs. Patients returning for re-hospitalization days or weeks after recovery suffering from apparent delayed post-hypoxic leukoencephalopathy strengthen the notion COVID-19 patients are suffering from hypoxia despite no signs of respiratory ‘tire out’ or fatigue.

Here’s the breakdown of the whole process, including some ELI5-level cliff notes. Much has been simplified just to keep it digestible and layman-friendly.

Your red blood cells carry oxygen from your lungs to all your organs and the rest of your body. Red blood cells can do this thanks to hemoglobin, which is a protein consisting of four “hemes”. Hemes have a special kind of iron ion, which is normally quite toxic in its free form, locked away in its center with a porphyrin acting as it’s ‘container’. In this way, the iron ion can be ‘caged’ and carried around safely by the hemoglobin, but used to bind to oxygen when it gets to your lungs.

When the red blood cell gets to the alveoli, or the little sacs in your lungs where all the gas exchange happens, that special little iron ion can flip between FE2+ and FE3+ states with electron exchange and bond to some oxygen, then it goes off on its little merry way to deliver o2 elsewhere.

Here’s where COVID-19 comes in. Its glycoproteins bond to the heme, and in doing so that special and toxic oxidative iron ion is “disassociated” (released). It’s basically let out of the cage and now freely roaming around on its own. This is bad for two reasons:

1) Without the iron ion, hemoglobin can no longer bind to oxygen. Once all the hemoglobin is impaired, the red blood cell is essentially turned into a Freightliner truck cab with no trailer and no ability to store its cargo.. it is useless and just running around with COVID-19 virus attached to its porphyrin. All these useless trucks running around not delivering oxygen is what starts to lead to desaturation, or watching the patient’s spo2 levels drop. It is INCORRECT to assume traditional ARDS and in doing so, you’re treating the WRONG DISEASE.

Think of it a lot like carbon monoxide poisoning, in which CO is bound to the hemoglobin, making it unable to carry oxygen. In those cases, ventilators aren’t treating the root cause; the patient’s lungs aren’t ‘tiring out’, they’re pumping just fine. The red blood cells just can’t carry o2, end of story. Only in this case, unlike CO poisoning in which eventually the CO can break off, the affected hemoglobin is permanently stripped of its ability to carry o2 because it has lost its iron ion. The body compensates for this lack of o2 carrying capacity and deliveries by having your kidneys release hormones like erythropoietin, which tell your bone marrow factories to ramp up production on new red blood cells with freshly made and fully functioning hemoglobin. This is the reason you find elevated hemoglobin and decreased blood oxygen saturation as one of the 3 primary indicators of whether the shit is about to hit the fan for a particular patient or not.

2) That little iron ion, along with millions of its friends released from other hemes, are now floating through your blood freely. As I mentioned before, this type of iron ion is highly reactive and causes oxidative damage. It turns out that this happens to a limited extent naturally in our bodies and we have cleanup & defense mechanisms to keep the balance. The lungs, in particular, have 3 primary defenses to maintain “iron homeostasis”, 2 of which are in the alveoli, those little sacs in your lungs we talked about earlier. The first of the two are little macrophages that roam around and scavenge up any free radicals like this oxidative iron. The second is a lining on the walls (called the epithelial surface) which has a thin layer of fluid packed with high levels of antioxidant molecules.. things like abscorbic acid (AKA Vitamin C) among others.

Well, this is usually good enough for naturally occurring rogue iron ions but with COVID-19 running rampant your body is now basically like a progressive state letting out all the prisoners out of the prisons… it’s just too much iron and it begins to overwhelm your lungs’ countermeasures, and thus begins the process of pulmonary oxidative stress. This leads to damage and inflammation, which leads to all that nasty stuff and damage you see in CT scans of COVID-19 patient lungs. Ever noticed how it’s always bilateral? (both lungs at the same time) Pneumonia rarely ever does that, but COVID-19 does…

EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

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Once your body is now running out of control, with all your oxygen trucks running around without any freight, and tons of this toxic form of iron floating around in your bloodstream, other defenses kick in. While your lungs are busy with all this oxidative stress they can’t handle, and your organs are being starved of o2 without their constant stream of deliveries from red blood cell’s hemoglobin, and your liver is attempting to do its best to remove the iron and store it in its ‘iron vault’. Only its getting overwhelmed too. It’s starved for oxygen and fighting a losing battle from all your hemoglobin letting its iron free, and starts crying out “help, I’m taking damage!” by releasing an enzyme called alanine aminotransferase (ALT).

BOOM, there is your second of 3 primary indicators of whether the shit is about to hit the fan for a particular patient or not.
Eventually, if the patient’s immune system doesn’t fight off the virus in time before their blood oxygen saturation drops too low, ventilator or no ventilator, organs start shutting down. No fuel, no work. The only way to even try to keep them going is max oxygen, even a hyperbaric chamber if one is available on 100% oxygen at multiple atmospheres of pressure, just to give what’s left of their functioning hemoglobin a chance to carry enough o2 to the organs and keep them alive. Yeah we don’t have nearly enough of those chambers, so some fresh red blood cells with normal hemoglobin in the form of a transfusion will have to do.

The core point being, treating patients with the iron ions stripped from their hemoglobin (rendering it abnormally nonfunctional) with ventilator intubation is futile, unless you’re just hoping the patient’s immune system will work its magic in time. The root of the illness needs to be addressed.

Best case scenario? Treatment regimen early, before symptoms progress too far. Hydroxychloroquine (more on that in a minute, I promise) with Azithromicin has shown fantastic, albeit critics keep mentioning ‘anecdotal’ to describe the mountain, promise and I’ll explain why it does so well next. But forget straight-up plasma with antibodies, that might work early but if the patient is too far gone they’ll need more. They’ll need all the blood: antibodies and red blood cells. No help in sending over a detachment of ammunition to a soldier already unconscious and bleeding out on the battlefield, you need to send that ammo along with some hemoglobin-stimulant-magic so that he can wake up and fire those shots at the enemy.

The story with Hydroxychloroquine

All that hilariously misguided and counterproductive criticism the media piled on chloroquine (purely for political reasons) as a viable treatment will now go down as the biggest Fake News blunder to rule them all. The media actively engaged their activism to fight ‘bad orange man’ at the cost of thousands of lives. Shame on them.
How does chloroquine work? Same way as it does for malaria. You see, malaria is this little parasite that enters the red blood cells and starts eating hemoglobin as its food source.

The reason chloroquine works for malaria is the same reason it works for COVID-19 — while not fully understood, it is suspected to bind to DNA and interfere with the ability to work magic on hemoglobin. The same mechanism that stops malaria from getting its hands on hemoglobin and gobbling it up seems to do the same to COVID-19 (essentially little snippets of DNA in an envelope) from binding to it. On top of that, Hydroxychloroquine (an advanced descendant of regular old chloroquine) lowers the pH which can interfere with the replication of the virus. Again, while the full details are not known, the entire premise of this potentially ‘game changing’ treatment is to prevent hemoglobin from being interfered with, whether due to malaria or COVID-19.

No longer can the media and armchair pseudo-physicians sit in their little ivory towers, proclaiming “DUR so stoopid, malaria is bacteria, COVID-19 is virus, anti-bacteria drug no work on virus!”. They never got the memo that a drug doesn’t need to directly act on the pathogen to be effective. Sometimes it’s enough just to stop it from doing what it does to hemoglobin, regardless of the means it uses to do so.

Anyway, enough of the rant. What’s the end result here? First, the ventilator emergency needs to be re-examined. If you’re putting a patient on a ventilator because they’re going into a coma and need mechanical breathing to stay alive, okay we get it. Give ’em time for their immune systems to pull through. But if they’re conscious, alert, compliant — keep them on O2. Max it if you have to. If you HAVE to inevitably ventilate, do it at low pressure but max O2. Don’t tear up their lungs with max PEEP, you’re doing more harm to the patient because you’re treating the wrong disease.

Ideally, some form of treatment needs to happen to:
  1. Inhibit viral growth and replication. Here plays CHQ+ZPAK+ZINC or other retroviral therapies being studies. Less virus, less hemoglobin losing its iron, less severity and damage.
  2. Therapies used for anyone with abnormal hemoglobin or malfunctioning red blood cells. Blood transfusions. Whatever, I don’t know the full breadth and scope because I’m not a physician. But think along those lines, and treat the real disease. If you’re thinking about giving them plasma with antibodies, maybe if they’re already in bad shape think again and give them BLOOD with antibodies, or at least blood followed by plasma with antibodies.
  3. Now that we know more about how this virus works and affects our bodies, a whole range of options should open up.
  4. Don’t trust China. China is ASSHOE. (disclaimer: not talking about the people, just talking about the regime). They covered this up and have caused all kinds of death and carnage, both literal and economic. The ripples of this pandemic will be felt for decades.
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Kathy in FL

Administrator
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This article certainly dovetails with others on the subject. This might also, in part, explain why diabetes and cardiovascular diseases have the two highest CFRs of the pre-existing condition complication with covid19. Both compromise blood vessels and the circulatory system.
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
Sent this to my family a couple days ago. The rabid Trump-hater went totally ballistic over the FSM being called out. I don't think the biochemistry registered at all. She went on a rant the like of which I've never seen, and now she's not responding. I think she put me on ignore. I'm guessing she had a lot invested in Trump not being a doctor and therefore killing people and nuking baby whales for sport.
 

Squib

Veteran Member
I don’t eat much - coffee doesn't count! ...so the wife feeds me all kinds of vitamins and “stuff”.

Ive been taking zinc, selenium, and some other crap during this time and even though I’m in a high risk category, no problems so far (hows that for anecdotal?)
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Been on The Big Thread for a bit - didn't see that it had been on Main before. Martenson has been around the edges of this idea on several of his podcasts as well.

 

Coulter

Veteran Member
This was discussed 3 days or so ago on Peak Prosperity.

One thing he also mentioned in his youtube that more than a month ago it was discovered that people who have O positive blood seem to get this much less than those with A positive.

He has no idea if the O positive blood deals with the iron problem differently - but wonders.

I like him but can't decide if he is a liberal or not.

Couple of times he was concerned that migrants might not be allowed in - to pick our crops.

Then he also mentioned that non residents are not sharing in the stimulus checks.

Both statements were red flags to me.
 

Seeker22

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Cliff High covered this a few days ago but didn't explain as in depth as this does. Screw the CCP and the quisling enablers here in this country who didn't come forward to let us know this vital information months ago. This is yet another nail in the coffin proving to me that this IS a bioweapon and China INTENDED this.

Pull everything Chinese out of this country ASAP. And show this article to every medical peep you can find. They want us dead, we beg to differ. Actually, beg is the wrong word. We insist on it.

Dennis, how cool is it to post such an article as this and know that you have saved some lives?
 

emiliozapata

Senior Member
If this theory is true, there could be some efficacy in consuming large amounts of chlorophyll which is nearly identical to hemoglobin, human hemoglobin having 4 pyrrole rings surrounding iron and chlorophyll having four pyrrole rings surrounding magnesium- if the virus could be somehow fooled into bonding at the magnesium center of the chlorophyll versus the iron of the hemoglobin- all metal ions are an integral part of some viral proteins and play an important role in their survival and pathogenesis. Zinc, magnesium and copper are the most common metal ion that bind with viral proteins. If enough CV-19 virus load was fooled into attraction to circulating chlorophyll it could spare hemoglobin-the question is how readily will ingested chlorophyll enter circulation intact- on e study in dogs showed only an average of 3.4%
 

jazzy

Advocate Discernment
excellent articl, thanks. clif highhas been talking about this info for a while, this article explains it very well,. ive read a few times that once the doctors added zinc to the HCQ and Z pack, that made a real difference.

im sticking with my liposomal vit c, selenium, elderberry, vit D, zinc tablets and chaga.
 

Seeker22

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I was reading similar from other sources this morning. My feeling with this bug has always been DO NOT put me on a ventilator. Besides being last ditch, (really bad stats) and probably no help, it causes more problems than it solves.

My BIL died in his forties from being intubated. His death rocked the family, as he was up to the point he went in the hospital, in pretty good health. If it were a choice of dying or intubation, I'll take my chances. Keep that gizmo away from me. Especially after reading this.
 

KFhunter

Veteran Member
Here is some additional perspective, and why the link is now broken



according to this link above, the article Dennis posted is NOT BUSTED, but has been handed over to people with more authority and research knowledge.

The author " libertymavenstock libertymavenstock" is not a medical person nor an MD

but his father is, and contributed medical knowledge necessary for the article, and his son libertymavenstock provided the sleuthing and google-foo to "connect the dots" and put this in a great article.


great find! The link was only good for a short duration and yet it managed to be posted in full on TB2K!!

That my friends, is why I am here!
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
There has been lots of talk in nutrition supplement circles over FREE RADICALS for years.

Well, those loose iron atoms are one kind of FREE RADICALS....

This little video offers a simplified pre-corona explanation …
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etr1Pwd-4-U&feature=emb_logo

WHAT ARE FREE RADICALS? And What Do They Do To Your Body?
RT 02:00

I'm sure you've heard of free radicals, but do you know what they are or what they can do? These important molecules have a huge impact on the cells in your body, and are connected to a whole host of negative effects. Luckily there is an easy dietary solution – something you can incorporate into your diet to stop them in their tracks. Check out this video to learn all about free radicals and how to take back control of your health!
 
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hunybee

Veteran Member
If this theory is true, there could be some efficacy in consuming large amounts of chlorophyll which is nearly identical to hemoglobin, human hemoglobin having 4 pyrrole rings surrounding iron and chlorophyll having four pyrrole rings surrounding magnesium- if the virus could be somehow fooled into bonding at the magnesium center of the chlorophyll versus the iron of the hemoglobin- all metal ions are an integral part of some viral proteins and play an important role in their survival and pathogenesis. Zinc, magnesium and copper are the most common metal ion that bind with viral proteins. If enough CV-19 virus load was fooled into attraction to circulating chlorophyll it could spare hemoglobin-the question is how readily will ingested chlorophyll enter circulation intact- on e study in dogs showed only an average of 3.4%


i wondered about this as well a while ago! i have a problem with anemia. the doctors had told me long ago to take chlorophyll for the reasons you stated. they said it was an old remedy to help the anemia. i have done this many times over the years. when i started hearing about the iron, i wondered if this would help or not. any doctors weight in on it?
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment

emiliozapata

Senior Member
i wondered about this as well a while ago! i have a problem with anemia. the doctors had told me long ago to take chlorophyll for the reasons you stated. they said it was an old remedy to help the anemia. i have done this many times over the years. when i started hearing about the iron, i wondered if this would help or not. any doctors weight in on it?
What specifically was the cause of your anaemia, one would need to know the etiology before offering an opinion.
 

emiliozapata

Senior Member
IANAD (I am not a doktah nor do I play one on teewee) but I started us all on chlorella (among other things) when I decided this virus was going to be a problem here.

Amazon.com: Sunfood Superfoods Chlorella Tablets | Broken Cell Wall | Pure, Single Ingredient Product | Ultra Clean- No Additives, Fillers, Preservatives, Chemicals | 250 mg Chlorella Tablets | 450 Count | 4 oz: Health & Personal Care is what we are taking.
Be exceedingly cautious about chlorella sources and potential for heavy metal/radiation contamination- good old home grown American spinach may be the safest option out right now as it is among the highest of chlorophyll sources of the greens-just be cautious if prone to certain types of kidney stones
 

bev

Has No Life - Lives on TB
This was discussed 3 days or so ago on Peak Prosperity.

One thing he also mentioned in his youtube that more than a month ago it was discovered that people who have O positive blood seem to get this much less than those with A positive.

He has no idea if the O positive blood deals with the iron problem differently - but wonders.

I like him but can't decide if he is a liberal or not.

Couple of times he was concerned that migrants might not be allowed in - to pick our crops.

Then he also mentioned that non residents are not sharing in the stimulus checks.

Both statements were red flags to me.

Seriously? I don’t care what side of the political fence he’s on - he is putting out an incredible amount of information and analysis. If that helps the medical community understand and better respond to covid19, I dont care if he is a flaming liberal.
 

lostinaz

Senior Member
There is an over the counter supplement that may help as a prophylactic. Quercitin. It's an anti inflammatory and it acts similarly to hydrocloroquine, though not as strong an effect. It works with zinc, so it's not a bad idea to supplment a small amount of zinc or review your diet and make sure you have some. You can also get it with Bromelian (occurs naturally in fresh pineapple) which breaks up gunk in your lungs should it get to that point. I bought it here for $20

Here is an article:

Modern Medicine Knew Of Zinc Cure For Coronavirus Infections A Decade Ago But Failed To Put Into Practice
By Bill Sardi
The long-standing bias against natural over patentable synthetic molecules in the practice of medicine has now resulted in the avoidable premature death of thousands of the most vulnerable individuals and the abrupt and near-complete economic collapse of modern society due to an unwarranted over-response by health authorities, political overseers and sensationalist news media.
The narrow and archaic vaccine-only paradigm to treat infectious diseases has left human populations vulnerable to a highly transmissible and potentially pathogenic virus with no approved drugs or vaccines in place.
Unprepared public health authorities should all have resigned by now. Instead, they wield unelected power as they mandate countermeasures such as indoor quarantine that will further deprive the sunlight-deprived masses in the northern hemisphere of the natural vitamin D needed to prevent this seasonal infectious disease.
The power hungry must produce deaths to spread the fear needed to extend control over the planet’s human populations. What looms is a decree for universal vaccination before the multitudes are permitted to return to normal life. The supposition is that only health authorities know what is best for 7 billion hostages presumed to be medically ignorant.
This unprecedented man-made chaos could have been avoided by putting into practice a remedy described nearly a decade ago.
In 2010 a collaboration of university-based researchers in The Netherlands and the USA reported that the combination of the trace mineral zinc plus a zinc transport molecule (ionophore) that facilitates zinc’s entry into cells efficiently impairs the replication of RNA viruses, like the newly mutated COVID-19 coronavirus, to effect a cure.
The discovery is documented in PLoS Pathogens journal, Volume 6, issue 11, November 2010.
This prior discovery appears to validate the recent report of Vladimir Zelenko MD, a New York-based physician who treated 699 consecutive cases of COVID-19 coronavirus with complete 100% success. His treatment protocol includes oral zinc, chloroquine as a zinc ionophore and an antibiotic (azithromycin).
Chloroquine initially ridiculed
Chloroquine received early push-back by political antagonists of the President of the United States who initially endorsed it, which was met with ridicule and scorn, even in scientific publications as well as from Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Infectious Disease. But then an international poll showed 37% of 6227 doctors rated this zinc-enhancing drug, mostly used to treat malaria, as the “most effective therapy” for treatment for coronavirus.
Alerting the public
This journalist was among the first to make the public aware chloroquine is a zinc ionophore. It became evident that virtually all of the symptoms of COVID-19 coronavirus infection, as noted by an emergency room physician, correlated with those produced by zinc deficiency, a report that via the internet was spread globally. The masses were beginning learn this calamity could be avoided without the aid of public health agencies.
Wider application
Zinc + ionophore was found to abolish RNA coronaviruses at very low concentration in a lab dish, meaning treatment leading to a cure is achievable in humans. In a lab dish the halt of viral replication was found to occur within minutes.
This zinc + ionophore approach was successfully tested on the deadly SARS-coronavirus that struck human populations in Asia in 2003-2004 and was also found to be effective against coxsackievirus, foot-and-mouth disease, and rhinoviruses (cold viruses).
In the present COVID-19 coronavirus epidemic the zinc + ionophore combination could have been employed in a targeted fashion for high-risk groups (elderly, diabetics, smokers, alcohol abusers, immune suppressant and illicit-drug users) as prevention and for curative purposes among patients with severe lung disease.
The family of RNA viruses also includes poliovirus and influenza virus. In other words, zinc therapy would also simultaneously address the seasonal flu viruses also in circulation, something public health authorities strangely paid no attention to this flu season.
Effectiveness of zinc along or with ionophore
Zinc alone only reduced viral replication by ~50% due to the lack of solubility of this trace mineral and its subsequent inability to be transported across the lipid (fatty) cell wall.
Given that viruses are intracellular parasites that hijack cellular processes to replicate a virus’s genetic material, it is essential anti-viral agents have ability to enter cells. An individual viral particle called a virion is able to produce about a million new virions once inside a cell. It would be critical for zinc to enter cells to destroy the virus, which makes the discovery of an ionophore as important as zinc’s primary role in infection control.
Upsetting the predominant vaccination paradigm
Such a discovery, if put into practice, would have upset the reigning vaccine paradigm that now predominates in modern medicine. Research dollars would evaporate as a cure for seasonal influenza and coronaviruses as well as tuberculosis would have been found.
Had zinc + ionophore therapy been in place, not only could the mutated COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic have been halted but it could have eventually been employed in an attempt to arrest cases of vaccine-resistant polio and other viral diseases not responsive to vaccination. An unwelcome fact to the medical industry is that vaccination would suddenly be found to be impractical and archaic.
Zinc for all infectious disease
In fact, zinc deficiency may actually be a primary cause of much if not all infectious disease. While it is conceded that zinc plays an important role in infant and childhood infectious disease, it is generally not incorporated into the practice of preventive medicine. Such an oversight has been costly to humanity.
Vaccination versus zinc therapy
Vaccination, which exposes humans to a little bit of a disease in order to activate antibodies, relies on the assumption the immune system will be responsive and produce antibodies upon exposure to various pathogenic bacteria and viruses. Vaccination narrowly attempts to produce antibodies by exposure to each and every known pathogenic bacterium or virus plus a toxic heavy metal adjuvant like mercury or aluminum to provoke an immune response. Whereas zinc therapy, by virtue of its ability to activate T-cells in the thymus gland that produce life-long antibodies, would address each and every incoming pathogen, making modern vaccination and re-vaccination programs outmoded.
Children’s Health Defense contrasts a 1986 child’s vaccination schedule which was comprised of 12 shots to prevent 8 common infectious diseases versus 2019 when 54 shots protect against 16 infectious diseases. There currently are 240 vaccines in research and development for 25 infectious diseases (2019). This is absurd, if not outright insane!
In fact, high-risk groups (zinc deficient?) may not produce sufficient antibodies that are required for life-long immunity. Such an acknowledgement would relegate vaccination as antiquated “cowpox” technology first practiced by Dr. Edward Jenner on May 14, 1796.
Are high-risk groups zinc deficient?
This would suggest zinc deficiency is prominent among diabetics, smokers and alcohol imbibers as well as the elderly that comprise high-risk groups for influenza and coronavirus infection. These subpopulations also do not respond well to vaccination.
Let us briefly examine whether this holds true.
Zinc deficiency, diabetes and immunity
Zinc has been characterized as a mimic of insulin because protects insulin from degradation. The lack of an available ionophore may explain why both a shortage and an excessive zinc state are both common among diabetics. An ionophore facilitates viral eradication at very low concentrations of zinc.
Tobacco smoking, lung disease and zinc
Likewise, a higher prevalence of obstructive lung disorder is observed among zinc-deficient smokers. Zinc counters cadmium toxicity, a heavy metal commonly elevated among tobacco smokers. Cadmium lung toxicity is achieved by impairment of white blood cells called macrophages. Zinc intake is associated with a lower risk of lung disease among smokers.
While smoking cessation should be emphasized, a shortage of zinc exacerbates lung disease. Essentially, every smoker should supplement their diet with zinc.
Alcohol, the lung and zinc
Dietary zinc is poorly absorbed among alcohol imbibers.
A common consequence of alcoholism is lung disease. Habitual alcohol intake increases susceptibility to pneumonia and lung injury for which no therapeutic options exist. Alcohol ingestion impairs macrophages in the lungs. Alcoholics may have normal blood levels of zinc but significant decreased zinc in white blood cells called macrophages that reside in the alveolar spaces of the lung where oxygen is transferred to the circulatory system. Zinc supplementation has been suggested for alcoholics with accompanying lung disease.
 

lostinaz

Senior Member
Part 2 Continuesd:

Zinc and immune-suppressant drugs
Another class of non-responders to vaccination who are also vulnerable to infectious diseases like coronaviruses are users of immune-suppressant drugs.
Patients on immune suppressant drugs are illogically advised to avoid zinc over concern it will induce an immune response and organ rejection that could, for example, jeopardize successful organ transplantation or worsen an autoimmune disease.
But as researchers note, zinc deficiency is documented to dampen immunity and zinc replacement restores normal immune function, but zinc has never been demonstrated to act as an immune “stimulant.” In fact, zinc therapy was proposed as a “new way” to treat organ transplant patients in 2004 but remains an ignored therapeutic.
In other words, zinc normalizes the immune response, as does vitamin D and the red wine molecule resveratrol. In fact, resveratrol completely blocks viral replication at a very low concentration in a lab dish. This is another major mistake in modern medicine and further exposes the bias against natural medicine.
Superiority of natural immunity over vaccination
The question arises, does natural immunity (naturally-produced antibodies) results in making vaccination programs only appear to be effective. In my revealing report entitled The Day Natural Immunity Prevailed Over Flu Vaccination, the realization there was no association between flu vaccination rates and the severity of flu seasons in 2010-11 and 2017-18 led to the conclusion that natural immunity must be playing a predominant role over vaccination.
Essentially vaccination doesn’t work efficiently without zinc. Zinc replenishment has the potential to improve immunity in young and old, two groups that do not respond to vaccination very well.
A documentary report produced by this investigator concludes zinc is essential for vaccines to work and zinc sufficiency among infection-prone children who have not developed antibodies against pathogenic bacteria and viruses yet would supplant vaccination or at the very least improve antibody response. Zinc sufficient children would either experience a mild fever or no symptoms at all and develop antibodies overnight, whether exposed to pathogens circulating in the community or from vaccines.
Presumably zinc was operative in Great Britain where it was determined that 68% of the population had at that point in time already developed antibodies against COVID-29 coronavirus and caused investigators to realize further measures to block the spread of the disease would be would be more problematic than the disease itself.
Over 70% of the general population has already produced sufficient antibodies (called seroconversion) in response to four less-severe human coronaviruses that occurred from exposure during childhood and reinfection throughout life.
Poor man’s chloroquine
While chloroquine is an inexpensive drug, it is only available by prescription. Following endorsement by the President of the United States on March 19 and emergency approval by the FDA on March 30, 2020, it was initially reported by this investigative journalist and later others that chloroquine is a zinc enhancing agent that facilitates the entry of zinc into cells. Virtually all of the signs and symptoms of COVID-19 correlate with symptoms of zinc deficiency. Widespread publicity resulted in a shortage of this drug, which doctors are now using to treat COVID-19 infections.
Further investigation finds that quercetin, found naturally in red apples and red onions, is a zinc ionophore. Quercetin is widely available in health shops, and represents a “poor man’s chloroquine.” Quercetin also inhibits replication of coronavirus.
Ineffective synthetic drugs and vaccines or economical zinc?
When pharmacologists searched for molecules from which to alter and produce an anti-coronavirus drug they began their search at the ZINC-drugs-now library. They searched for molecules that would inhibit the key enzyme (3CLpro protease) used by coronaviruses to facilitate entry into healthy cells.
Quercetin has been identified as a 3CLpro enzyme inhibiting molecule.
Last resort options (poor man’s coronavirus defense)
Do not run to the hospital if ill (signs and symptoms of coronavirus: shortness of breath, fever, loss of taste or smell, diarrhea), call your doctor.
In a pandemic it is possible that hoarding or shortages of medications would leave human populations with no available doctor-prescribed remedies. Given that dire scenario (there is really no practical way to supply or deliver 326 million Americans with any drug in a timely fashion), as a last resort Dr. Zelenko’s protocol of an antibiotic, zinc and a zinc ionophore could be mimicked with natural remedies, as follows:
From what is revealed in this report, modern medicine coerces the public to wait for development and regulatory approval of synthetic versions of molecules that resemble zinc (so called analogs) in order to capitalize financially at the expense of human life and health.
Whether an unaware public will catch on to this covert ruse is unknown, but, with a bit of needed interpretation, it has erupted into the public forum for all to see. Modern medicine and the Centers For Disease Control have held the public hostage to await an unproven and likely problematic vaccine, and thus have betrayed the public’s trust given an economical and more targeted natural therapy is at hand. The consequences have been unconscionable.
At what point does the public say enough is enough? Vaccination is literally a “dead end street.” Does the medical industrial complex expect the public to placidly receive almost endless injections for hundreds of diseases? Will enough people heed the information in this report for the public to squirm out of the grip this evil government/medical cabal has over the masses? That is to be seen. With their own lives at stake, how much pushback will a misled public generate, if any?
 

hardrock

Veteran Member
Seriously? I don’t care what side of the political fence he’s on - he is putting out an incredible amount of information and analysis. If that helps the medical community understand and better respond to covid19, I dont care if he is a flaming liberal.

I agree, but many are too invested in shutting down this country because OMB.
They will never admit they were wrong.
 

mistaken1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
It would seem anything anti-oxident would be good to help with the damage caused by the released iron.
Then finding something benign to humans that would be more attractive the virus than hemoglobin.

Interesting that this virus has the same protein hook as ebola (fluid transmission) and attacks blood cells yet it uses air-born transmission. Seems to me it is an engineered bioweapon .... the only real question being did it get loose or was it released.
 
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Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
Man, if that isn't a big ole smack in the face right there. Looks like some things are about to be changing pretty soon.

MEGA FAIL

statements made assume LOGIC, REASON and COMMON SENSE will prevail. poster obviously forgets we are discussing polyTICKians and globalist multinational mega-corporations in the process of raping and pillaging the sheep
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
Seems to me it is an engineered bioweapon .... the only real question being did it get loose or was it released.

What difference does it make? Once you know its characteristics, that tells you how to fight it. Whether the characteristics come from a nefarious plot or a natural source doesn't make a damn bit of difference.

If you want to discuss guilt, retribution and all that, the source matters. If you want to discuss therapy and cure, the source has no relevance at all.
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
Mother Nature is an EXCELLENT designer of bioweapons. She has killed untold millions of humans with them.

indeed - and many millions more have survived related to the fact of naturally developed herd immunity . . . I tend to agree that this is a bio weap . . . far to many co-inky-dinks to logically consider it other wise. can't say it was on purpose - but that really makes no difference at this point. we can also quite safely say that the "let no crisis go to waste" crowd is LOVING this - IMHO it lends more credibility to the bio weap position.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
On the big thread Shane had mentioned that he passed this article on to the doctor he knows ( Howell? Something like that ) and would post his reply when he got it...
 

Seeker22

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Had I written it, THEN I’d take pride in it. But the “mission” of this place is information dissemination. Always has been. In that, we really are all in it together.

I agree, but information passed from tongue to tongue and hand to hand is vital. Your place in all of this is running the site that this info passes through and occasionally posting a gem of your own. If we are fighting an information war, you provide another field to do battle.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!

Well, hey, you know...things can happen! We could go so far through irrational panic that we come back around to rational.

...but then that's probably unlikely anyway. All's I know is I'd like to see people get sufficiently rational that we can go out to eat again.
 
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