CORONA Main Coronavirus thread

pinkelsteinsmom

Veteran Member
Apologies if this has already been posted.
Not endorsing, just throwing it out there.

I'd gotten a fair stock of Ivermectin (for worms & bots in horses)
for years earlier SARS pandemic fears on dr recommendation.


Snippet from above;

BREAKTHROUGH? Single dose of common agricultural drug Ivermectin found to “essentially eliminate all viral material” of COVID-19 coronavirus within 48 hours

The abstract of the study describes the very strong potential of Ivermectin to inhibit viral replication in vitro. This was not a human clinical trial, of course, but the results make Ivermectin an immediate candidate for further study:

We report here that Ivermectin, an FDA-approved anti-parasitic previously shown to have broad-spectrum anti-viral activity in vitro, is an inhibitor of the causative virus (SARS-CoV-2), with a single addition to Vero-hSLAM cells 2 hours post infection with SARS-CoV-2 able to effect ?5000-fold reduction in viral RNA at 48 h. Ivermectin therefore warrants further investigation for possible benefits in humans.

Ivermectin is well known to exhibit strong anti-viral properties and is even documented to inhibit HIV replication. This is important to note, since the Wuhan coronavirus, an engineered biological weapon, uses HIV components as part of its infection and replication machinery. As described in the abstract:

Ivermectin is an FDA-approved broad spectrum anti-parasitic agent that in recent years we, along with other groups, have shown to have anti-viral activity against a broad range of viruses in vitro. Originally identified as an inhibitor of interaction between the human immunodeficiency virus-1 (HIV-1) integrase protein (IN) and the importin (IMP) ?/?1 heterodimer responsible for IN nuclear import, Ivermectin has since been confirmed to inhibit IN nuclear import and HIV-1 replication.

According to the published study, Ivermectin is known to inhibit the replication of:

  • Simian virus (SV40), which was placed into polio vaccines for many years in the United States.
  • Dengue virus (DENV)
  • West Nile Virus
  • Venezuelan equine encephalitis virus (VEEV)
  • Influenza
  • Pseudorabies virus (PRV)
“Essentially all viral material” was gone within 48 hours
Study authors describe how a single dose of Ivermectin achieved a 93% reduction of viral RNA was achieved within just 24 hours, with “essentially all viral material” gone in 48 hours.

At 24 h, there was a 93% reduction in viral RNA present in the supernatant (indicative of released virions) of samples treated with ivermectin compared to the vehicle DMSO. Similarly a 99.8% reduction in cell-associated viral RNA (indicative of unreleased and unpackaged virions) was observed with ivermectin treatment. By 48h this effect increased to an ?5000-fold reduction of viral RNA in ivermectin-treated compared to control samples, indicating that ivermectin treatment resulted in the effective loss of essentially all viral material by 48 h.
__________________

Charts, links to research, and more at link above.

Panic Early, Beat the Rush!
- Shane
View attachment 190874
That stuff can have some nasty side effects, but so does death.
 

library lady

Veteran Member
I wonder if Boris Johnson arranged for the broadcast of the Queen's speech last night because he knew his condition was not improving? There had been talk on twitter that it had been planned for Easter...

More information on current British government operations from the Daily Mail:


Speaking tonight after the PM was moved to intensive care, Mr Raab insisted that 'government business will continue' and said there is a fantastic 'team spirit' among ministers.

He also reassured that the premier was 'receiving excellent care' and thanked the NHS medics who were treating him and other patients across Britain.

Mr Raab's role as first secretary of state - the second most senior cabinet minister after the PM - means he is primed to take charge of the government's coronavirus response at this critical period as cases approach the peak.

Following the PM's hospitalisation last night on the advice of his doctor, Mr Raab had already stepped up to chair this morning's daily meeting of top officials steering the nation through the health crisis.

And at this afternoon's Downing Street press briefing, he confirmed a further 439 coronavirus deaths, taking the toll to 5,373, while the number of patients rose by 3,802 to 51,608.

Mr Johnson was still in charge during this press conference, but his symptoms spiralled and he required oxygen, prompting the move to critical care, according to Sky News.

Health experts tonight appeared unanimous in their view that the PM's admission to intensive care means he is 'extremely sick'...

Downing Street sources confirmed Mr Johnson is not yet on a ventilator, although medical experts forecast this course of action is 'very likely'.

Prof Derek Hill, Professor of Medical Imaging, University College London, said: 'As often happens with COVID-19, his condition has now deteriorated so he has been admitted to intensive care where he is very likely to have been put on a mechanical ventilator to breath for him.'

He added: 'One of the features of COVID-19 in all countries seems to be that many more men become seriously ill than women - especially in the over 40 age group.

'Also we know that people under about 60 seem to have a higher chance of making a recovery from critical illness with COVID-19 than older people. But there is no doubt this turn of events means Boris Johnson is extremely sick.'


Yet world leaders and politicians around the globe rallied around Mr Johnson, who received well wishers from David Cameron, Emmanuel Macron and Ivanka Trump.

The Queen has also been kept informed by Downing Street about Prime Minister Boris Johnson's condition, Buckingham Palace said.

On a day where the nation was sending the PM its support:
  • Humiliated Nicola Sturgeon has admitted the effort to combat coronavirus has been damaged after she was forced to accept the resignation of Scotland's chief medical officer for flouting her own lockdown rules;
  • Chief Medical Officer Chris Whitty is out of self-isolation and has been working after recovering from coronavirus;
  • Worrying figures showed the UK's coronavirus epidemic was set to overtake that suffered by France and Italy;
  • Health Secretary Matt Hancock threatened to revoke the right to exercise outdoors if people continued to flout social distancing measures;
  • The Prime Minister's spokesperson confirmed that sunbathing in public is not allowed and flouts rules allowing only essential movement;
  • Top scientists said it would take at least a month for the UK to develop antibody tests that could be rolled out widely to check who has had the virus already;
  • A report by the Intensive Care National Audit and Research Centre has found that ethnic minority people are at a greater risk of becoming seriously ill with the coronavirus;
  • A 54-year-old from Essex became the first midwife to die with coronavirus in England.
 
Last edited:

OldArcher

Has No Life - Lives on TB
uhoh. people willing to speak truth are dangerous- hope she remains atypical of the Dems!
@Rockprincess818

21m

A Democratic state representative in Detroit is crediting hydroxychloroquine -and Republican President Donald Trump who touted the drug — for saving her in her battle with the coronavirus. “Trump saved my life!!!”
View: https://twitter.com/Rockprincess818/status/1247257434843803648?s=20

May God Bless Her and Those Who Are Hers... May she be a light to those who are in darkness, and may she have a long, healthy, happy, and productive life...

OA
 

Jubilee on Earth

Veteran Member
So now we have age-related restrictions? Menards posted this notice on their website stating that people under 16 and pets are no longer permitted in their stores. Really?

HP-Annoucement-Updated2.jpg

This is a good thing! Too many reports of bored families heading into Menards, Home Depot, Target, and Walmart just to get out of the house and have something to do. With this directive, people will only go to buy essentials versus using stores for entertainment purposes or just to browse.
 

jward

passin' thru
As I expected, The governor of Arkansas has closed schools through the end of the school year. All classes online now.

Can you speak to whether there has been any SIP enacted for the state, or in the counties? Seems they're one of a handful of states who've not chosen to do so, but I can't find anything to verify that...
 

Texican

Live Free & Die Free.... God Freedom Country....
Do not remember this being posted, but it is astonishing none the less. Wonder if still going on. Now this could definitely be social spreading of the virus. :eek:
Texican....
-----------------------------------------------------------

Infamous Nevada Brothels Stay Open With Pledge to Increase Hand-Washing
Infamous Nevada Brothels Stay Open With Pledge to Increase Hand-Washing

(Dreamstime)
Tuesday, 17 March 2020 06:55 PM

Link: Infamous Nevada Brothels Stay Open With Pledge to Increase Hand-Washing

The coronavirus may have stopped most of American life, but one pastime promises to persist. Nevada’s legal brothels say they are there for it.

The largest houses say they are still open, though they are taking precautions. For example, Chicken Ranch, in Pahrump said it will require brothel workers and staff to “wash their hands regularly and use hand sanitizers as needed,” according to a letter from its general manager. It’s also having staff take their temperatures daily.
(How about social distancing?)

Coronavirus may put an industry unique to the state, which already faces political opposition, under particular strain.

The Nevada Brothel Association said workers are already subjected to weekly health tests, according to a blog post on its website. Still, it has asked businesses to turn away ill visitors and is encouraging “‘virtual happy hours’ with clients and friends to maintain human connections and social interactions during this stressful period of time,” according to a statement posted on its website.

The group also recommends brothels turn away clients who have been overseas during the past two weeks and reduce the number of stools in bars by half to encourage social distancing.

“Health and safety is, and always has been, our primary concern,” Suzette Cole, the owner of four brothels in Lyon County and head of the trade group’s political action committee, wrote in the blog post.

© Copyright 2020 Bloomberg News. All rights reserved.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Oregon had two more dal phie, 29 in total, as well as 64 new cases, up to 1138 or so. We are now entering the lethal phase. 606 to 1138 is also.a 100% increase since monday and 29 dead up from 16 is also near 100 % a week.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqGXzWCD9Xk
4:14 min
How the coronavirus is impacting rural areas
•Apr 6, 2020


CBS This Morning
While the coronavirus is having a disastrous impact on cities like New York and New Orleans, the virus is also starting to hit rural America. Adriana Diaz visits a town in Wisconsin, where doctors are worried an already spread thin health care system could be stretched to the limit.
The returning generation of death from the beaches of florida, texas and new orleans returning to infect their parents and grandparents no doubt
 

Pinecone

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Oregon had two more die today, 29 in total, as well as 64 new cases, up to 1138 or so. We are now entering the lethal phase. 606 to 1138 is also 100% increase since monday and 29 dead up from 16 is also near 100 % a week.
True, but the numbers are slowing. It was increasing by almost 100 cases per day for a few days there. Of course, there is also the question of how many are actually being tested. Statistics, lies, and damn lies. Or however it goes.
 

Sicario

The Executor
This is a good thing! Too many reports of bored families heading into Menards, Home Depot, Target, and Walmart just to get out of the house and have something to do. With this directive, people will only go to buy essentials versus using stores for entertainment purposes or just to browse.
Menards DOES sell many essential items to keep/make your home habitable. So if I have a young child, I cannot go get things to keep my home safe for habitation? Crazy!
 

Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane



https://www.health.pa.gov/topics/disease/coronavirus/Pages/Cases.aspx#



COVID-19 Cases in Pennsylvania*
NegativePositiveDeaths
70,87412,980162
* Map, tables and case counts last updated at 12:00 p.m. on 4/6/2020

Positive Cases by Age Range to Date


Age RangePercent of Cases
0-4< 1%
5-12< 1%
13-181%
19-247%
25-4942%
50-6429%
65+20%
* Percentages may not total 100% due to rounding


Hospitalizations by Age Range to Date
Total number of hospitalizations since 3/6/2020: 1145


Age RangePercent of Cases
0-4< 1%
5-120%
13-18< 1%
19-241%
25-4919%
50-6428%
65+51%
* Percentages may not total 100% due to rounding


County Case Counts to Date


CountyNumber of Cases Deaths
Adams25
Allegheny6424
Armstrong13
Beaver966
Bedford 4
Berks3263
Blair5
Bradford10
Bucks61917
Butler912
Cambria7
Cameron1
Carbon591
Centre44
Chester3073
Clarion6
Clearfield7
Clinton3
Columbia26
Crawford9
Cumberland682
Dauphin1321
Delaware82215
Erie20
Fayette291
Forest4
Franklin32
Fulton1
Greene12
Huntingdon4
Indiana17
Juniata11
Lackawanna1907
Lancaster40811
Lawrence242
Lebanon124
Lehigh10068
Luzerne8495
Lycoming10
McKean1
Mercer18
Mifflin5
Monroe57211
Montgomery123018
Montour33
Northampton71612
Northumberland15
Perry51
Philadelphia361128
Pike1252
Potter3
Schuylkill103
Snyder81
Somerset6
Sullivan1
Susquehanna6
Tioga8
Union6
Venango5
Warren1
Washington53
Wayne35
Westmoreland157
Wyoming5
York1891
 

skoaldiak

WWG1WGA
Covid-19 had us all fooled, but now we might have finally found its secret.
libertymavenstock

Apr 5 · 8 min read


In the last 3–5 days, a mountain of anecdotal evidence has come out of NYC, Italy, Spain, etc. about COVID-19 and characteristics of patients who get seriously ill. It’s not only piling up but now leading to a general field-level consensus backed up by a few previously little-known studies that we’ve had it all wrong the whole time. Well, a few had some things eerily correct (cough Trump cough), especially with Hydroxychloroquine with Azithromicin, but we’ll get to that in a minute.

There is no ‘pneumonia’ nor ARDS. At least not the ARDS with established treatment protocols and procedures we’re familiar with. Ventilators are not only the wrong solution, but high pressure intubation can actually wind up causing more damage than without, not to mention complications from tracheal scarring and ulcers given the duration of intubation often required… They may still have a use in the immediate future for patients too far to bring back with this newfound knowledge, but moving forward a new treatment protocol needs to be established so we stop treating patients for the wrong disease.
The past 48 hours or so have seen a huge revelation: COVID-19 causes prolonged and progressive hypoxia (starving your body of oxygen) by binding to the heme groups in hemoglobin in your red blood cells. People are simply desaturating (losing o2 in their blood), and that’s what eventually leads to organ failures that kill them, not any form of ARDS or pneumonia. All the damage to the lungs you see in CT scans are from the release of oxidative iron from the hemes, this overwhelms the natural defenses against pulmonary oxidative stress and causes that nice, always-bilateral ground glass opacity in the lungs. Patients returning for re-hospitalization days or weeks after recovery suffering from apparent delayed post-hypoxic leukoencephalopathy strengthen the notion COVID-19 patients are suffering from hypoxia despite no signs of respiratory ‘tire out’ or fatigue.
Here’s the breakdown of the whole process, including some ELI5-level cliff notes. Much has been simplified just to keep it digestible and layman-friendly.

Your red blood cells carry oxygen from your lungs to all your organs and the rest of your body. Red blood cells can do this thanks to hemoglobin, which is a protein consisting of four “hemes”. Hemes have a special kind of iron ion, which is normally quite toxic in its free form, locked away in its center with a porphyrin acting as it’s ‘container’. In this way, the iron ion can be ‘caged’ and carried around safely by the hemoglobin, but used to bind to oxygen when it gets to your lungs.

When the red blood cell gets to the alveoli, or the little sacs in your lungs where all the gas exchange happens, that special little iron ion can flip between FE2+ and FE3+ states with electron exchange and bond to some oxygen, then it goes off on its little merry way to deliver o2 elsewhere.

Here’s where COVID-19 comes in. Its glycoproteins bond to the heme, and in doing so that special and toxic oxidative iron ion is “disassociated” (released). It’s basically let out of the cage and now freely roaming around on its own. This is bad for two reasons:

1) Without the iron ion, hemoglobin can no longer bind to oxygen. Once all the hemoglobin is impaired, the red blood cell is essentially turned into a Freightliner truck cab with no trailer and no ability to store its cargo.. it is useless and just running around with COVID-19 virus attached to its porphyrin. All these useless trucks running around not delivering oxygen is what starts to lead to desaturation, or watching the patient’s spo2 levels drop. It is INCORRECT to assume traditional ARDS and in doing so, you’re treating the WRONG DISEASE. Think of it a lot like carbon monoxide poisoning, in which CO is bound to the hemoglobin, making it unable to carry oxygen. In those cases, ventilators aren’t treating the root cause; the patient’s lungs aren’t ‘tiring out’, they’re pumping just fine. The red blood cells just can’t carry o2, end of story.

Only in this case, unlike CO poisoning in which eventually the CO can break off, the affected hemoglobin is permanently stripped of its ability to carry o2 because it has lost its iron ion. The body compensates for this lack of o2 carrying capacity and deliveries by having your kidneys release hormones like erythropoietin, which tell your bone marrow factories to ramp up production on new red blood cells with freshly made and fully functioning hemoglobin. This is the reason you find elevated hemoglobin and decreased blood oxygen saturation as one of the 3 primary indicators of whether the shit is about to hit the fan for a particular patient or not.

2) That little iron ion, along with millions of its friends released from other hemes, are now floating through your blood freely. As I mentioned before, this type of iron ion is highly reactive and causes oxidative damage. It turns out that this happens to a limited extent naturally in our bodies and we have cleanup & defense mechanisms to keep the balance. The lungs, in particular, have 3 primary defenses to maintain “iron homeostasis”, 2 of which are in the alveoli, those little sacs in your lungs we talked about earlier. The first of the two are little macrophages that roam around and scavenge up any free radicals like this oxidative iron. The second is a lining on the walls (called the epithelial surface) which has a thin layer of fluid packed with high levels of antioxidant molecules.. things like abscorbic acid (AKA Vitamin C) among others.

Well, this is usually good enough for naturally occurring rogue iron ions but with COVID-19 running rampant your body is now basically like a progressive state letting out all the prisoners out of the prisons… it’s just too much iron and it begins to overwhelm your lungs’ countermeasures, and thus begins the process of pulmonary oxidative stress. This leads to damage and inflammation, which leads to all that nasty stuff and damage you see in CT scans of COVID-19 patient lungs. Ever noticed how it’s always bilateral? (both lungs at the same time) Pneumonia rarely ever does that, but COVID-19 does… EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
— — — — — — — — — — — — -
Once your body is now running out of control, with all your oxygen trucks running around without any freight, and tons of this toxic form of iron floating around in your bloodstream, other defenses kick in. While your lungs are busy with all this oxidative stress they can’t handle, and your organs are being starved of o2 without their constant stream of deliveries from red blood cell’s hemoglobin, and your liver is attempting to do its best to remove the iron and store it in its ‘iron vault’. Only its getting overwhelmed too. It’s starved for oxygen and fighting a losing battle from all your hemoglobin letting its iron free, and starts crying out “help, I’m taking damage!” by releasing an enzyme called alanine aminotransferase (ALT).

BOOM, there is your second of 3 primary indicators of whether the shit is about to hit the fan for a particular patient or not.
Eventually, if the patient’s immune system doesn’t fight off the virus in time before their blood oxygen saturation drops too low, ventilator or no ventilator, organs start shutting down. No fuel, no work. The only way to even try to keep them going is max oxygen, even a hyperbaric chamber if one is available on 100% oxygen at multiple atmospheres of pressure, just to give what’s left of their functioning hemoglobin a chance to carry enough o2 to the organs and keep them alive. Yeah we don’t have nearly enough of those chambers, so some fresh red blood cells with normal hemoglobin in the form of a transfusion will have to do.

The core point being, treating patients with the iron ions stripped from their hemoglobin (rendering it abnormally nonfunctional) with ventilator intubation is futile, unless you’re just hoping the patient’s immune system will work its magic in time. The root of the illness needs to be addressed.

Best case scenario? Treatment regimen early, before symptoms progress too far. Hydroxychloroquine (more on that in a minute, I promise) with Azithromicin has shown fantastic, albeit critics keep mentioning ‘anecdotal’ to describe the mountain, promise and I’ll explain why it does so well next. But forget straight-up plasma with antibodies, that might work early but if the patient is too far gone they’ll need more. They’ll need all the blood: antibodies and red blood cells. No help in sending over a detachment of ammunition to a soldier already unconscious and bleeding out on the battlefield, you need to send that ammo along with some hemoglobin-stimulant-magic so that he can wake up and fire those shots at the enemy.

The story with Hydroxychloroquine
All that hilariously misguided and counterproductive criticism the media piled on chloroquine (purely for political reasons) as a viable treatment will now go down as the biggest Fake News blunder to rule them all. The media actively engaged their activism to fight ‘bad orange man’ at the cost of thousands of lives. Shame on them.

How does chloroquine work? Same way as it does for malaria. You see, malaria is this little parasite that enters the red blood cells and starts eating hemoglobin as its food source. The reason chloroquine works for malaria is the same reason it works for COVID-19 — while not fully understood, it is suspected to bind to DNA and interfere with the ability to work magic on hemoglobin. The same mechanism that stops malaria from getting its hands on hemoglobin and gobbling it up seems to do the same to COVID-19 (essentially little snippets of DNA in an envelope) from binding to it. On top of that, Hydroxychloroquine (an advanced descendant of regular old chloroquine) lowers the pH which can interfere with the replication of the virus. Again, while the full details are not known, the entire premise of this potentially ‘game changing’ treatment is to prevent hemoglobin from being interfered with, whether due to malaria or COVID-19.

No longer can the media and armchair pseudo-physicians sit in their little ivory towers, proclaiming “DUR so stoopid, malaria is bacteria, COVID-19 is virus, anti-bacteria drug no work on virus!”. They never got the memo that a drug doesn’t need to directly act on the pathogen to be effective. Sometimes it’s enough just to stop it from doing what it does to hemoglobin, regardless of the means it uses to do so.

Anyway, enough of the rant. What’s the end result here? First, the ventilator emergency needs to be re-examined. If you’re putting a patient on a ventilator because they’re going into a coma and need mechanical breathing to stay alive, okay we get it. Give ’em time for their immune systems to pull through. But if they’re conscious, alert, compliant — keep them on O2. Max it if you have to. If you HAVE to inevitably ventilate, do it at low pressure but max O2. Don’t tear up their lungs with max PEEP, you’re doing more harm to the patient because you’re treating the wrong disease.
Ideally, some form of treatment needs to happen to:
  1. Inhibit viral growth and replication. Here plays CHQ+ZPAK+ZINC or other retroviral therapies being studies. Less virus, less hemoglobin losing its iron, less severity and damage.
  2. Therapies used for anyone with abnormal hemoglobin or malfunctioning red blood cells. Blood transfusions. Whatever, I don’t know the full breadth and scope because I’m not a physician. But think along those lines, and treat the real disease. If you’re thinking about giving them plasma with antibodies, maybe if they’re already in bad shape think again and give them BLOOD with antibodies, or at least blood followed by plasma with antibodies.
  3. Now that we know more about how this virus works and affects our bodies, a whole range of options should open up.
  4. Don’t trust China. China is ASSHOE. (disclaimer: not talking about the people, just talking about the regime). They covered this up and have caused all kinds of death and carnage, both literal and economic. The ripples of this pandemic will be felt for decades.
Fini.


eta - china is asshoe link :rofl:
 
Last edited:

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
"What is really fascinating, however, is that while this thread was dismissed and censored as utter nonsense just two months ago (and got many banned for even daring to mention it), none other than David Ignatius, The Washington Post's favorite establishment columnist, is now questioning China's narrative and raising his own doubts as to the origin of the virus, writing that ...as China dished wild, irresponsible allegations of its own."

You CANNOT ACCESS this link--the stupid paper puts up an ad over it requiring a $29 subscription to get access.. Does anyone here HAVE access, that could copy / paste the article mentioned?
I discovered that on some websites that apparently disable copying that I was able to put my cursor on the little remaIning still visible content beside the big ad box and click “select all,” then “save” and my ‘puter copied the whole article but did not copy the big ad, but it ONLY copied the content they were trying to block,
even with it darkened and a big square blocking most of it. My computer did not copy the big ad, nor the darkening. Try it.
 
Last edited:

catskinner

Veteran Member
Can you speak to whether there has been any SIP enacted for the state, or in the counties? Seems they're one of a handful of states who've not chosen to do so, but I can't find anything to verify that...
I am not aware of any statewide SIP orders. I have heard that hotels and such are closed to all but healthcare workers, police, etc. Restaurants are pick up or delivery only. Both Wal-Mart and Kroger have you line up and be admitted as others leave. At least, this is what I am being told.
I can only assume that the orders are from mayors and such, and only apply to their area. I live in the county and we don't have a mayor, so nothing on that front applies to me. We wait to hear something from the sheriff, but so far it's crickets.
We have stayed home since before the schools were closed. DH is immune-compromised and we can't take the chance.
Meanwhile, we have one in high school still. The "cyber" work is killing him. Hours and hours of work each night, across all his subjects. Who assigns 100 algebra problems after watching a video? Not to mention that all the teachers have them watching videos. We have Hughes....and I'm pretty sure we will run out of band width before he runs out of videos to watch. Grrr....
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Do not remember this being posted, but it is astonishing none the less. Wonder if still going on. Now this could definitely be social spreading of the virus. :eek:
Texican....
-----------------------------------------------------------

Infamous Nevada Brothels Stay Open With Pledge to Increase Hand-Washing
Infamous Nevada Brothels Stay Open With Pledge to Increase Hand-Washing

(Dreamstime)
Tuesday, 17 March 2020 06:55 PM

Link: Infamous Nevada Brothels Stay Open With Pledge to Increase Hand-Washing

The coronavirus may have stopped most of American life, but one pastime promises to persist. Nevada’s legal brothels say they are there for it.

The largest houses say they are still open, though they are taking precautions. For example, Chicken Ranch, in Pahrump said it will require brothel workers and staff to “wash their hands regularly and use hand sanitizers as needed,” according to a letter from its general manager. It’s also having staff take their temperatures daily.
(How about social distancing?)

Coronavirus may put an industry unique to the state, which already faces political opposition, under particular strain.

The Nevada Brothel Association said workers are already subjected to weekly health tests, according to a blog post on its website. Still, it has asked businesses to turn away ill visitors and is encouraging “‘virtual happy hours’ with clients and friends to maintain human connections and social interactions during this stressful period of time,” according to a statement posted on its website.

The group also recommends brothels turn away clients who have been overseas during the past two weeks and reduce the number of stools in bars by half to encourage social distancing.

“Health and safety is, and always has been, our primary concern,” Suzette Cole, the owner of four brothels in Lyon County and head of the trade group’s political action committee, wrote in the blog post.

© Copyright 2020 Bloomberg News. All rights reserved.
Wow, I can think of no easier way to get infected than this close contact. I figured out, or read somewhere, maybe a out aids, that when you have sex with a person, any person, you have sex with EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT PERSONE EVER, REPEAT EVER HAD SRX WITH. GRANTED, BACK WHEN I WAS YOUNG AND STUPID, VERSUS NOW WHEN I AM OLD AND TRY TO NOT MAKE THE SSME MISTAKE THREE TIMES, :jstr: The spirit is willing but the flesh is horny. :arg:
Anyway going to a brothel now may be the most ignorant thing I have heard in years.
 

SSTemplar

Veteran Member
I really question the government's response to this crisis. If they are not hiding some facts or expectations, their policies are flawed, emotional, and detrimental to society.

If there are 100,000 to 200,00 fatalities, mostly skewed to the elderly, from this virus and the average is 10 years of life lost each, that is 1 million to 2 million life-years lost.

With the great stress, economic loss, permanent job loss, and all the other effects, 20 million unemployed will probably have their lives shortened an average of two to three years from the fallout resulting in 40 to 60 million life-years lost.

Overall for the nation, 300 million people will have their life expectancy decreased by one or two years resulting in 300 to 600 million life years lost.

Unlike money whose future value is less than present value, life-years future value to society is usually higher than present value because of increases in productivity, communication, transportation, energy generation, and technology. The government is willing to pay 600 million life-years in the future for 2 million life-years now. Is this the way you want your country run?

Certainly there should be social distancing, mask wearing, closure of very large assemblies of people, and many other reasonable precautions but 95% of the businesses could be reopened and school and most other activities could recommence. Today’s policies are a cure much worse and more deadly than the disease.

Yes, my numbers are all drawn out of thin air, and there can be rational disagreements about when and what to reopen, but I thought I would be controversial today.
Don't let it worry you that is just an example of lack of critical thinking.
 
Top