MNKYPOX Monkeypox - Consolidated Thread.

psychgirl

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bw said:
Yes, there was a post a few days back that said very high numbers of health workers were infected. Don't have it handy. That's when we were discussing the possible collapse of health care.

ETA: As I recall, it was the count of infections at a particular hospital, not the general population. About 10% of the infections were health workers. In other words, working at a hospital is going to be chancy with this one.
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Thais what I thought. The Twitter post just tells me that it is either worsening or just now being openly talked about.
 
Meemur

Meemur

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We have 9 cases in Iowa but I've seen 3 different stories about where they are.

I'm assuming that all college towns (and college neighborhoods, like the Drake neighborhood) will be at risk, more so in a couple of weeks when the little darlings return. I'm trying to arrange things so that I don't have to be in retail stores at that point.

I haven't heard a peep about shifting the little darlings to online learning. If they are going to do that, they need to make that decision soon.
 
SouthernBreeze

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I don't know why it's so hard to list the counties for each infection case. They do it here with their Covid website, but won't do it for MP. I can check each day to see how many new Covid cases have been reported in my county. I'd like to be able to do that for MP, too.
 
Meemur

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SouthernBreeze said:
I'd like to be able to do that for MP, too.
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Right now, there are still a number of decision makers who think MPX is a "gay" disease, so "not their circus, not their monkies." They haven't groked that it's airborne and formites live on surfaces for awhile. Once they do, I expect panic.

Several local children will have to present with the pox for that to happen, in my opinion.
 
SouthernBreeze

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Meemur said:
Right now, there are still a number of decision makers who think MPX is a "gay" disease, so "not their circus, not their monkies." They haven't groked that it's airborne and formites live on surfaces for awhile. Once they do, I expect panic.

Several local children will have to present with the pox for that to happen, in my opinion.
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Right now, since we don't know how close these cases are to us, we'll have to keep our ears open for talk around in town. If someone comes down with it, word will get around in our little community.
 
bw

bw

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Meemur said:
I'm assuming that all college towns (and college neighborhoods, like the Drake neighborhood) will be at risk, more so in a couple of weeks when the little darlings return.
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I went to Drake before I enlisted. Nice school.
 
Kayak

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Meemur said:
Right now, there are still a number of decision makers who think MPX is a "gay" disease, so "not their circus, not their monkies." They haven't groked that it's airborne and formites live on surfaces for awhile. Once they do, I expect panic.

Several local children will have to present with the pox for that to happen, in my opinion.
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We're a week away from school starting here, so that should put is at, what... two to three weeks from local governments realizing there's a problem?
 
Meemur

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bw said:
I went to Drake before I enlisted. Nice school.
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Unfortunately, the Drake neighborhood has turned into a partly crime-ridden pest hole. The college and city are trying to reclaim it, but progress has been slow. Lots of people there barely speak English, so I expect many potential problems if MPX takes off.
 
Meemur

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Kayak said:
We're a week away from school starting here, so that should put is at, what... two to three weeks from local governments realizing there's a problem?
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That's possible. I think BW posted that lock downs could happen from July to September (?) -- I don't have my notes in front of me. You could do a search back farther on this thread.

Our colleges start around August 23, give or take several days.
 
psychgirl

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SouthernBreeze said:
I don't know why it's so hard to list the counties for each infection case. They do it here with their Covid website, but won't do it for MP. I can check each day to see how many new Covid cases have been reported in my county. I'd like to be able to do that for MP, too.
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I’ve been saying that for weeks.
 
BenIan

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BenIan said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1554204938435174403
View: http://twitter.com/AmandaVinicky/status/1554204938435174403?s=20&t=R-egc4biWK2Hbba23JFpDw



First I've seen of Illinois declaring a "public health emergency"...can anyone verify?
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Found it...

khqa.com

Monkeypox virus public health emergency in Illinois

The monkeypox virus has now been declared a public health emergency in Illinois. Governor JB Pritzker, D-Illinois, issued the proclamation on Monday.
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Monkeypox virus public health emergency in Illinois
by WRSP/WICS Staff
Monday, August 1st 2022

CHICAGO (WICS) — The monkeypox virus has now been declared a public health emergency in Illinois.

Governor JB Pritzker, D-Illinois, issued the proclamation on Monday.

He also declared the state of Illinois a disaster area regarding the disease.

The declaration will allow the Illinois Department of Public Health (IDPH) to use resources for coordinating logistics across state agencies, quickly and efficiently aid in the distribution of vaccines and in the prevention and treatment of the disease.

“MPV is a rare, but potentially serious disease that requires the full mobilization of all available public health resources to prevent the spread,” said Governor JB Pritzker. “That’s why I am declaring a state of emergency to ensure smooth coordination between state agencies and all levels of government, thereby increasing our ability to prevent and treat the disease quickly. We have seen this virus disproportionately impact the LGBTQ+ community in its initial spread. Here in Illinois we will ensure our LGBTQ+ community has the resources they need to stay safe while ensuring members are not stigmatized as they access critical health care.”
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Declaring a state of disaster will also help IDPH expand vaccine and testing capacities with the help of the Illinois Emergency Management Agency (IEMA) and via state and federal recovery and assistance funds.

The proclamation takes effect immediately and is in place for 30 days.

Illinois currently has reported 520 cases of confirmed or presumptive monkeypox virus, the third most in the country.

“A comprehensive and swift response is key when containing a disease outbreak,” said IDPH Director Dr. Sameer Vohra. “These measures will allow the state to deploy all our resources in fighting this disease and will open efficient lines of communication and cooperation across state lines, an essential step in tracking monkeypox and improving tools and processes to prevent and address it.”
 
bw

bw

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Meemur said:
I think BW posted that lock downs could happen from July to September (?)
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I've predicted lockdowns starting by the end of September. No end in sight but got to extend into spring at least. I agree that school children are likely to be the catalyst, and the effect on children is always what's worried me most. My nieces and nephews have little ones now.

There's a statistic from India that of children who have it about 10% lose sight in at least one eye. See post 4072. If we start seeing anything close to that it's going to scare the beejeezus out of parents. The lockdown will be by popular acclaim.

re Drake: When I was there in '67-'68 crime was unknown near the campus and locking doors was optional. Oh well.
 
phloydius

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I've been following this woman who has Monkeypox for a while...


https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1554239560829194240
View: https://twitter.com/bumblebuzz6/status/1554239560829194240


bumblebuzz @bumblebuzz6
If it’s wasn’t clear, being on Week 6-9 is not grounds for receiving TPOXX. I’m on a 40% pay cut due to medical leave & on Week 6 of quarantine. I’ll be fine financially but I’m saying this NOW for others to plan ahead financially. Bc I know it’s gonna hit ppl HARD. #monkeypox
5:56 PM · Aug 1, 2022
 
Tristan

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SouthernBreeze said:
"Officially", the CDC is now reporting 3 cases in Mississippi. :( I tried to find out in what counties, but they're not reporting it.
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Keep in mind, 'Cases' are a lagging indicator...

By definition, it's most likely to be tabulated after the infected has already been out and about amongst the uninfected; time to recognition of new cases- somewhere between 5-15 days, give or take.

Let alone the effect of a protocol of testing "Only Gay/Bi/Men who have Sex with Men" BS. (Don't know if that's been put aside, yet...)

I've been using a heuristic (rule of thumb) of every tallied 'Case' being indicative of 5-10x that number exposed. Haven't seen any data on what the R0 value is for this new-and-improved version of the Pox is, so it's hard to even guesstimate what the exposed to infected ratio might be.
 
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phloydius

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Not sure if this has been posted yet...
Some of the interesting notes about Monkeypox:

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DHS Science and Technology Directorate
July 2022

  • Early presentation consists of fever, fatigue, headache, backache, mild to severe pulmonary lesions, anorexia, dyspnea, conjunctivitis, nasal discharge, swollen lymph nodes, chills and/or sweats, sore throat, cough, and shortness of breath.
  • Rash presents within 1-4 days of onset of symptoms and lasts from 2-4 weeks. Rash is typically confined to the trunk but may appear on the palms and soles of feet. Lesions can develop on mucous membranes, in the mouth, on the tongue, and on the genitalia.
  • Transmission of MPXV occurs when a person comes into contact with the virus from an animal, human, or materials contaminated with the virus. The virus may enter the body through broken skin, the respiratory tract, or other mucous membranes such as the rectum, eyes, genitals and oral cavity.
  • Human-to-human transmission is thought to occur primarily through respiratory droplets, direct contact with body fluids or lesion material, and indirect contact with lesion material via contaminated fomites.
  • Rates of droplet transmission in this outbreak do not appear to be different from prior outbreaks.
  • The interval between exposure and the development of symptoms ranges from 1-31 days, with 7-17 days being the typical range.
  • Humans can be contagious before a visible rash appears and can continue shedding the virus weeks after symptoms have dissipated.
  • Vaccination with smallpox vaccine (vaccinia virus) is reported to provide protection against 85% of MPXV infections. CDC recommends revaccination after 3 years for individuals with likely exposure.


  • MPXV is very stable in the environment. These viruses can be stable for days to weeks under some circumstances.
  • MPXV can survive in scabs for months to years.
  • MPXV is resistant to desiccation in hot and cold environments.
  • MPXV may be stable for days to weeks in water, soil, and on refrigerated food.
  • Poxviruses are known to remain infectious in the scabs of patients for months to years, and viral DNA present in lesion material is stable for a long period of time if kept in a relatively dark, cool environment.
  • Poxviruses are stable for days to weeks in storm water and soil, lasting longer at cold temperatures.
  • After 14 days of storage at 4°C, MPXV was detected via PCR on food. Under the same conditions and methods, MPXV was also observed on gauze.
  • MPXV-contaminated material including clothes, paper, and dust may remain contagious for years if not disinfected.
  • After 6 months of storage of infected tissue culture fluid at 4°C, the infectivity titer of stocks remained unchanged from the original.

  • For clinicians, PPE should be donned before entering the patient’s room and used for all patient contact. All PPE should be disposed of prior to leaving the isolation room where the patient is admitted. Optimal PPE include disposable gown and gloves, NIOSH-certified N95 (or comparable) filtering disposable respirator, and face shield or goggles.


 
phloydius

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Let me put that one here again. Nurses & doctors should REMOVE ALL PPE when leaving the Monkeypox patient before moving about the hospital or seeing ANY other patients. We are going to need a heck of a lot more PPE!

  • For clinicians, PPE should be donned before entering the patient’s room and used for all patient contact. All PPE should be disposed of prior to leaving the isolation room where the patient is admitted. Optimal PPE include disposable gown and gloves, NIOSH-certified N95 (or comparable) filtering disposable respirator, and face shield or goggles.
 
briches

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phloydius said:
Not sure if this has been posted yet...
Some of the interesting notes about Monkeypox:

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DHS Science and Technology Directorate
July 2022

  • Early presentation consists of fever, fatigue, headache, backache, mild to severe pulmonary lesions, anorexia, dyspnea, conjunctivitis, nasal discharge, swollen lymph nodes, chills and/or sweats, sore throat, cough, and shortness of breath.
  • Rash presents within 1-4 days of onset of symptoms and lasts from 2-4 weeks. Rash is typically confined to the trunk but may appear on the palms and soles of feet. Lesions can develop on mucous membranes, in the mouth, on the tongue, and on the genitalia.
  • Transmission of MPXV occurs when a person comes into contact with the virus from an animal, human, or materials contaminated with the virus. The virus may enter the body through broken skin, the respiratory tract, or other mucous membranes such as the rectum, eyes, genitals and oral cavity.
  • Human-to-human transmission is thought to occur primarily through respiratory droplets, direct contact with body fluids or lesion material, and indirect contact with lesion material via contaminated fomites.
  • Rates of droplet transmission in this outbreak do not appear to be different from prior outbreaks.
  • The interval between exposure and the development of symptoms ranges from 1-31 days, with 7-17 days being the typical range.
  • Humans can be contagious before a visible rash appears and can continue shedding the virus weeks after symptoms have dissipated.
  • Vaccination with smallpox vaccine (vaccinia virus) is reported to provide protection against 85% of MPXV infections. CDC recommends revaccination after 3 years for individuals with likely exposure.


  • MPXV is very stable in the environment. These viruses can be stable for days to weeks under some circumstances.
  • MPXV can survive in scabs for months to years.
  • MPXV is resistant to desiccation in hot and cold environments.
  • MPXV may be stable for days to weeks in water, soil, and on refrigerated food.
  • Poxviruses are known to remain infectious in the scabs of patients for months to years, and viral DNA present in lesion material is stable for a long period of time if kept in a relatively dark, cool environment.
  • Poxviruses are stable for days to weeks in storm water and soil, lasting longer at cold temperatures.
  • After 14 days of storage at 4°C, MPXV was detected via PCR on food. Under the same conditions and methods, MPXV was also observed on gauze.
  • MPXV-contaminated material including clothes, paper, and dust may remain contagious for years if not disinfected.
  • After 6 months of storage of infected tissue culture fluid at 4°C, the infectivity titer of stocks remained unchanged from the original.

  • For clinicians, PPE should be donned before entering the patient’s room and used for all patient contact. All PPE should be disposed of prior to leaving the isolation room where the patient is admitted. Optimal PPE include disposable gown and gloves, NIOSH-certified N95 (or comparable) filtering disposable respirator, and face shield or goggles.


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All I can think about with this is our schools beginning. It’s going to be interesting (Not in a good way).
 
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